Owners Meetings Could Spark Interest In Chiefs Stars
by Joel Thorman on Mar 22, 2009 2:04 PM CDT
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The new Chiefs will be in full force at the annual owners meetings
The NFL's annual meeting of owners begins today in Dana Point, California and runs through Wednesday. We've already talked about a few of the topics that will come up at these meetings, but we've got more questions than answers at this juncture.
Bill Williamson of ESPN.com will be covering the owners' meetings and appears to be our best resource for this so make sure you check him out.
Below are a few of the questions I have heading into today's convention of mega-billionaires.
The future of Tony Gonzalez, Larry Johnson and Brian Waters
Per multiple media outlets, each of these players could/should be on the trading block.
Tony Gonzalez is getting up there in age and has expressed interest in playing for a winner. He's a candidate to be moved mainly because his value in a trade won't be increasing anytime soon. Expect plenty of TE-needy teams to be talking to Clark Hunt and/or Scott Pioli at the meetings.
Larry Johnson is unhappy and another candidate to be moved. I don't suspect many teams will be that interested in him, especially with the contract he would carry with him in a trade. I don't see Johnson being a hot topic of conversation at the meetings.
Brian Waters reportedly wants out of Kansas City after a distasteful first meeting with Todd Haley and the no-meeting with Pioli. I haven't heard much movement from this story brought to light by Jason Whitlock on the first night of free agency so I don't expect teams to be asking about Waters' availability. Like Gonzalez, he may be worth more to the Chiefs than any other team.
Compensatory Picks
The NFL historically awards compensatory picks at the owners meeting. The Chiefs may be in line for a late round pick for Casey Wiegmann.
Connerman threw up a FanPost about compensatory picks. He predicts the Chiefs won't receive one for Casey Wiegmann but may be in line for a non-compensatory pick (possibly setting us up to select Mr. Irrelevant?).
Scheduling
The NFL also historically announces the first slate of primetime games at the owners meetings. There's been an astounding amount of excitement in Kansas City since December 15th, so I expect the Chiefs to land at least one (maybe two?) game on Sunday Night or Monday Night Football.
We know that the Chiefs have the 17th toughest schedule and we've looked at their history of primetime games. I predicted the Chiefs won't have a primetime game this year but acquiring Matt Cassel may make the NFL excited to show off one of its top talents.
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This is an extremely important year in the NFL as far as the relationship between the owners and the NFLPA is concerned. I know some of you aren't as interested in the business side of the NFL as some of us, but it's important that you're up to date on the movin' and shakin' that's going to take place in Dana Point this week.
The increasing possibility that we'll be without a salary cap next season, new NFLPA DeMaurice Smith's assertion that once the cap is gone it's not coming back, and the negotiation of a new Collective Bargaining Agreement will be the hot topics on the business side for the next few months.
We'll do our best to keep you updated on the business side of the NFL in this monumental year.
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This is very good info
I have a feeling that we will see Tony G get traded so we can pick up some draft picks. Don’t ask me why, it is just a gut feeling. We have signed 3 wide receivers trying to improve that receiving corps, and there are quite a few mid-round TEs that we can draft to take Tony’s place. Hopefully he stays, but I don’t think it will happen.
Larry Johnson on the other hand almost seems untradable. Who would want his baggage and mouth? He must re-structure his contract, or we probably keep him.
Waters being traded makes the least since to me unless a team gives us a lot in return. We need his leadership and solid play to protect Cassel.
Owners meeting always has something interesting happen at it, and I don’t think this year will be any different.
re: Waters
If we could pick up a 3rd rounder it would be worth it. In the 3rd round you can hopefully pick up a G that can start from day one and be with us for the next few years while Waters has what, 2-3 years left?
by Joel Thorman on Mar 22, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions
True, it would have to be at least a 3rd rounder
Pioli should be able to find us a LG replacement in that round. There truly is a lot of interior lineman in the Draft that are worth taking a shot at. This should be our year to find our Center. Eric Wood anyone?
3rd and a 5th
seems reasonable. Although I’d love to get a 2nd and pick up Herman “the house” Johnson
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
Herman Johnson
Man there are some very good interior linemen in this draft. Seems like more than usual.
by Joel Thorman on Mar 22, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I DONT THINK SO...........
It would be nice to get a 3rd rd pick for B.Waters but that would leave us with not one good vet on the line to teach these new kids, i just cant see that happening!
we have Cottam
he’s TG’s replacement, I believe TG will get traded he’s the biggest luxury out of LJ Brian Waters and himself. Plus he deserves a super bowl and we deserve a 2nd round choice =)
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
As long as Cottam stays healthy, he can be good
We do deserve a 2nd round choice! At least. What did Bill Walsh say, it is better to get rid of a player a year early than a year late. That may go for Waters as well. I agree with Prime that he may only have 2 or 3 years left.
I said that he "can" be good
He is 6’7", has shown to be a good blocker, and seems to have decent hands. His time learning behind one of the all-time greats helps a lot too. I am by no means saying that he is the heir apparent, but he is the best we got to be the heir apparent.. I wouldn’t be surprised to see the Chiefs take another TE if we trade Tony.
AS FAR AS....
T.G is concerned, man i would love for him to get a S.B ring, but having him here help’s out Cassel in the long run, and at his age the man is still playing like a pro-bowler !!
I think trading them has nothing to do with what they can do on the field
I believe none of them fit the “model” citizen that Pioli envisions. The team does not need stars. It needs players. That is where Larry and Tony do not fit in. As far Waters; he has put himself above the pack when he “asked” to be listened to. I agree with having less great players and more great teams. You’ll see once we start winning all of the sudden a lot of great players will want to come in and give up their stardom.
GREAT PLAYER'S = STARS...........
I thought you said he doe’snt want that here, cause it doe’snt fit his “model” ! Nothing you can get in a trade or pick can replace T.G i dont care what you say, and he would be a fool to get rid of T.G and B.W !!
What I was trying to say was
that once the system would be established – players (even if stars) would become more concerned with winning than being stars (Moss, Brady,Freeney etc.) Untill then everyone can doubt the system and try to make their voice heard.
In addition - in regards to your TG comment
I would rather have 11 good players on the starting eleven than 3 superstars, 6 good players and 2 less than average ones. If trading TG gets us ahead, despite all my respect for the guy – I say DO IT.( I really have high hopes for Cottam). Strong line will enhance any QB – TE perfromance.
Scheduling
Primetime good insight on the Chiefs scheduling and the little hope of getting a “primetime” game. I predict we will get one during flex scheduling later on in the year while we are still undefeated :)
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LJ...........
Is the one i think we should try and deal, i know he’s not worth much but that guy is a cancer to this team! With the new offense we are going to be running i dont see him fitting in!
I would actually love to see him sit on the bench all season
I know it would be a waste of money – however we not going to get anything for him anyway. Might as well, make him angry and “give him a chance” to screw up his career. And maybe, just maybe when he hits 30 he’ll grow up and have 2 productive seasons at a bargain price. You never know…
Tony G
…would be a great pick up for the Eagles, at least their 2nd. They got that window closing thing. Atlanta and Green Bay inquired last season. LJ…the Eagles again. They lost Buckholder and Westbrook gets nicked. LJ would be perfect. Saints could use him as well. Maybe a 4th? Waters is going no where and from the quiet and looking at the idiocy in Denver I think he’ s cool.
LJ
I don’t dislike him or have ill but he is a cancer on the team. Its business.
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