find me any great quarterback and i’ll show you a great supporting cast. cassel has the ability to play a more conventional style qb and thigpen doesn’t. you should look up the thigpen’s rating by quarter and compare it to cassel’s. thigpen got worse as the game went on, every game. he’s not terrible but cassel has a lot more upside and 10 wins as a starter (10 times as many as thigpen)

and we didn’t. Colquit missed a lot of games too, and when he came back he wasn’t NEARLY the same. Do you want me to add the other pro bowlers who didn’t play 9 or 10 games? We haven’t even touched on coaching caliber comparisons…. You’re getting really nit-picky instead of heeding the point. I accepted your “not the same team” theory, even though I could find a lot of evidence that you are.

it limits his upside. What if TG is traded or get hurt? If he can’t read defenses and hit WR in their routes there is very little the offense can do. IMO the success we had was because we had a creative OC, a hall of fame TE, and a physically gifted WR. Thigpen benefited from their abilities, and again I give him credit, but it still wasn’t enough to win games. If we had a quarterback with the abilities I listed before we have more options in the passing game which will keep defenses guessing and hopefully open things up some for the run game.

That’s exactly what I’ve been trying to say. But everyone has been taking it like i’m pro-Thigpen. I’m not. I’m just not “hail-Cassel!”

It’s just funny to me cuz i’m trying to make my case w/ facts and everyone’s arguing w/ opinions.

Why? his accuracy wasn’t any better. There was a much bigger difference between their #1 and #2 but you said he makes better progressions (his #3 was faulk aka a check down read).

The point of showing the 2 seasons was to show that NE threw the ball 52x less (KC threw 22x less), ran 62x more (KC 4x less), gained 1162 passing yards LESS (KC actually gained 52 less) and ran for 429 yards more (KC 562 more) but you say they didn’t adjust to Cassel but we changed EVERYTHING. We actually were just more efficient this year.

We threw less than last year and ran the same amount. But we scored 11 more TD’s.

They Made A Much Bigger Adjustment.

But the need to learn those things has him behind Cassel in this stage of their development.

If we run the arrowspread, Cassel needs to learn Thiggy’s skills to catch up to his ’stage of development. So to argue that Thiggy needs to learn pro-set skills to be as effective a quarterback is a narrow view IMO. Each quarterback, when used in the best system for them, might gain the same # of wins.

It comes down to talent evaluation, and who gives you the best chance to win right now – just like Haley has been saying. If we end up with Arrowspread personnel, and need a more mobile quarterback to give us the best chance to win, Thiggy would be that guy, it seems. If we end up pounding the rock in an I formation, Cassel seems more suited.

that % is very subjective. Unless you factor things like drops, throw away’s, spikes, down & distance, number of passes thrown, types of the catches, personnel and a hundred other things you can’t really compare 1 QB’s passing % to another in a single season. So no, less than 5% is not that big of a deal to me. Don’t forget that Bowe was #2 in the league with drops. With the exception of Cleveland and Denver, that’s more than any other 2 players (combined).

My argument is comparing the 2 QB’s as starters. That equaled .39 yards less per attempt. That’s the distance of the ground to your knee! So again, not impressive. Especially when you add 168 more attempts and that your Recievers gained more yards after the catch than any others in the AFC and 3rd in the NFL.

So Matt Cassel has earned the starting role because he has a less than 5% better passing percentage and gains 4/10 of 3ft more with each pass attempt.