Some Past Draft Stats: Please Pioli, draft a QB!!!

by Picky on Mar 2, 2009 10:09 AM CST Comment 17 comments

I am holding back my judgment on the Matt Cassel trade. It's possible that Matt Cassel has great potential, and could be an untapped asset to the organization like Kurt Warner was for the Rams (and now Cardinals). But I also see it as possibly just setting us up for two more years of mediocrity. I think we should STILL draft a QB with the #3 pick, and if Peterson was still in charge, I would be certain that we won't. But we might now that Pioli is here. All I know is that I have been looking back at our past drafts, and we haven’t drafted a franchise QB (a’la Manning, Manning, Culver, etc) since 1983 (Todd Blackledge), and he was the only QB we have EVER drafted with our first draft pick in each year.

Also, the last time we picked this high in the draft (#3 or higher) was in 1988 when we had the #2 overall pick. What will we do with it this time?

While I was researching our first draft picks in each year, I compiled some interesting stats: In the 39 drafts that have taken place since the merger in 1970 we have picked the following:

Defense:
DT: 4
DE:4
LB: 3
DB: 3
NT: 1

Offense:
WR: 4
RB: 6
OT: 5
TE: 5
G: 3
QB: 1

Total picks: 39
Total defensive picks: 15
Total offensive picks: 24
Total "offensive weapon" picks: 16
Total "lineman" picks: 17
Total QB picks: 1

Please, let's draft a QB and train him for a few years while Cassel has his shot. If Cassel turns out to be the 2nd coming of Brady or Montana, or Warner, then great, we have a QB to trade. If he stinks up Arrowhead, then we shuck him (or keep him as a backup) and play Stafford (or Pat White, or whoever we would draft). Those are my thoughts.

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Arrowhead Pride's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Arrowhead Pride writers or editors.

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We may take a QB

but its not going to happen with our #3 and it probably won’t happen on the first day.

by paratrooper on Mar 2, 2009 10:11 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Well unless we trade

our #3 is the only pick we have on the first day…

Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.

by PVChiefsfan on Mar 2, 2009 10:17 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Good point

I had forgotton that day 1 is only the first 2 rounds. I was still thinking round 3 was on day one. Thanks!

by paratrooper on Mar 2, 2009 10:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Absolute Worst Decision ever

We just traded for a QB that we are going to pay a lot of money and we have every reason to believe he can be a franchise QB, plus we have Thigpen who is a Solid back up and if Cassel didn’t work out we could take a go with him.

And… you want to draft Pat White with the 3rd???

Our biggest needs are on the Defensive front 7, and we have the opportunity to draft a potential Franshise LB.

And on top of it the top QBs in the draft aren’t thought of as sure fire Franchise QBs, they will probably be good, but nothing makes anyone believe they are the 2nd coming of Peyton Manning

by GracieKal on Mar 2, 2009 10:17 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Pat White

No, I don’t. I was assuming that we had a 2nd round pick. I haven’t looked at what we have this year beyond the #3 overall pick.

I wouldn’t put it past Pioli to trade the #3 pick for another team’s (later) 1st round pick AND their 2nd rounder. That might turn out well, but I still say we should pick the best QB available at #3.

Check it to Pancakes! Pancakes!

by Picky on Mar 2, 2009 10:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

But that’s what I’m saying. We SHOULD take a QB. Anybody remember the last QB we drafted? Brody Croyle in round 3.

Here’s a list of all our drafted QB’s:

2006: Croyle Round 3
1997 Barnes Round 4
1995: Stenstrom Round 4
1994: Matthews Round 7
1992: Blundin Round 2
1989: Elkins Round 2
1988: McManus Round 11
1987: Hudson Round 7

That’s right, eight QB’s total in the 26 years since the Blackledge debacle. Not one of them successful. So our strategy of drafting QB’s late…..not so good.

Check it to Pancakes! Pancakes!

by Picky on Mar 2, 2009 10:24 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

bad idea

no qb in this draft is worth the #3 pick….especially when we are already paying Cassel a lot of money. Would not have 2 high paid QB’s on the roster.

by KCCheeze on Mar 2, 2009 10:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

So we now have $14M in cap space...

tied up in Cassel and you want to tie up top 5 pick money for the same position? You realize we have a porous oline and Big12-like defense?

by HIV 2 Elway on Mar 2, 2009 10:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Hmm.

Didn’t think of that. Good call. Maybe we shouldn’t have traded for Cassel. So what you are saying is that there is NO WAY Pioli will draft a QB at #3. Oh well.

Let’s continue this conversation in 2011 when Cassel is bagging groceries in downtown Memphis and we STILL need a good QB ;-)

I will be the first to say I was wrong if Cassel leads us to the big show next year.

Check it to Pancakes! Pancakes!

by Picky on Mar 2, 2009 10:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Big 12 Defense?

dude, last season, the Chiefs had an MIAA defense…

Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.

by PVChiefsfan on Mar 2, 2009 10:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Touche

by HIV 2 Elway on Mar 2, 2009 10:43 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

You just answered your POST

And out of all those you list the Chiefs really never gave any a chance to succeed.
We might as well keep Croyle and maybe someday he wiil step-up and we will trade him for a 2nd.

by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 2, 2009 5:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

So...

You just traded for a QB who was highly coveted by other teams and is slated to get 14 mil. If you are the GM, you don’t mess with his head by drafting a qb first round. If you want to take a second day pick in hopes that he could be good and not cost much, so be it. If you take a QB third overall, You are going to be paying him more than your starter. That sounds like the Raiders front office to me.

AFC West Champs in 2009? Mayyybee.

by cmpotter on Mar 2, 2009 10:44 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Exactly

If you take a QB third overall, You are going to be paying him more than your starter

I expect Cassel to receive something in the neighborhood of 6 years, $60 million…possibly loaded towards later in the contract so that if he busts, we save a little, and if he is great, he’ll be earning more later.

A QB drafted at #3 will receive a contract bigger than Matt Ryan (6 year, $72 million).

Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.

by PVChiefsfan on Mar 2, 2009 12:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs