Yes, the Denver Broncos want Jay Cutler to return for a little sit down to mend fences after the team's reported failed attempt to trade for New England quarterback Matt Cassel. Cutler won't have any of it after the two sides spoke by telephone Sunday.
"They want me to come in and talk to 'em but I'm not doing it right now; I'm going to lay low," said Cutler. "The [Broncos] deny everything. That's a problem. We know for a fact they tried to trade me."
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And...
to go with all this Cutler garbage. ESPN is reporting that Brandon Marshall was arrested in Atlanta for disorderly conduct. With all the past trouble, he will most likely be missing some games next year. Is Marshall Denver’s LJ?
AFC West Champs in 2009? Mayyybee.
I saw that last night also
They were speculating like 8 games I think since that was what Henry got?
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new assclown and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
matter fo fact what got me to read the article was the title
something about his “annual arrest” LMAO
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new assclown and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
Too funny.
On the conspiracy front. Michael Smith on ESPN, said he believes that Belichik wanted Cassel in KC. On a financial standpoint the 2nd pick has worked out good in the Pats past and they are the trading team and they get to chosse where to trade him.
AFC West Champs in 2009? Mayyybee.
If BB likes and has not choice but to trade Cassel, it makes sense he wouldn't send him to the Lions.
Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.
Rotoworld is speculating
Possible eight game suspension from the league.
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the charges were dropped
There wasn’t enough evidence. It wont’ be that big if any.
AFC West Champs in 2009? Mayyybee.
Damn!
Oh well Marshall is a tool and he has plenty of time to find some more thuggery and trouble to get in before the season starts.
surprise surprise
arrest is not equal to guilty people
the performance enhancing drugs argument begins with lassic eye surgery
Broncos are
a mess they are the new raiders of the league guys are getting shot dieing arrested what a mess.
they are awaiting a stunt "johnson"
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new assclown and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
i applied for a stunt cock position..
and never heard back. Im now thinking oil boy or something along those lines!
I could also do well
in some sort of towel boy role. I could keep some hand towels in warm water for easy clean up.
hey man you cant take
my job thats what i do hahah everything your saying is on my list of things to do its a tough job someone has to do it.
Wait......................you mean
you oil up the stunt………….? Oh man…….I knew I stopped drinking too soon.
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new assclown and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
you have to understand
lanier these girls are pros most of them are former stippers they have talent hahah
they flex easy
im just their to make their life easy and somtime they make my life easy and sometimes they selfs easy for me hahahahh
DAMN YOU!
Maybe I could come in and be your backup for awhile. Ill hold the clipboard and follow you around like a lost puppy. Then when your skills start to diminish Ill be ready to step in and take the lead role.
Like him or not
I think I would be pissed too. It isn’t anything like our trading Guppy!
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new assclown and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
You
have to love the issues thier having. We may have a good shot at this division. I can’t understand why they would ruffle a pro bowlers feathers over a guy who had one good season.
I agree
I think Cutler is the best young QB in the league (yes, better than Assnozzle Rivers)…I have no idea why they would even consider trading him to the Bucs for anything less than one first rounder.
Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.
Me either
Still trying to figure this one out. Cutler is great.
by Chris Thorman on Mar 2, 2009 8:27 AM CST up reply actions
Cutler is great
their is no way a draft pick could replace that guy no way. He is better than rivers for sure and i bet if cutler was on san diego they would actually have a better chance to win a super bowl i just dont believe in rivers i know i know he had a good year but he just cant get it done in the playoffs .
better than Rivers?
That is debatable. Rivers had much better stats last season and he has actually lead his team to the playoffs, something Cutler has yet to do. I don’t like Rivers either, but I’m just sayin…
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I have to agree
I’m finding that Cutler has been a little overrated around here.
by NESilver on Mar 2, 2009 9:28 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Rivers and Cutler
Rivers has been to the playoffs but he had a monstor D backing him up. Cutlers D is/was just about as bad as ours.
Not this last year, though.
San Diego’s defense was a big problem for them all year, and once again, Rivers took his team to the playoffs while Cutler stayed home.
by NESilver on Mar 2, 2009 9:44 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
+1
I can’t stand Cutler, but he had a hell of a season and he is consistant.
AFC West Champs in 2009? Mayyybee.
last season
Not last season. I agree that in general the Chargers have had a better D than Denver in recent years, but last season both were bad.
I have yet to see Cutler win a big a game either, but I have seen him choke twice when all his team needed to do was win one game to get into the playoffs.
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Go Chiefs!
If by "around here" you mean AP
then don’t be too surprised. Opinions regarding your divisional teams get magnified, IMO. Wouldn’t be surprised to see the same effect among AFC East fans discussing their respective teams, either.
Cassel vs. Thigpen in Camp should improve the play of both.
Next on the need list: linebacker, and both lines
by Bleedingredandgold on Mar 2, 2009 1:46 PM CST up reply actions
Sounds like Tito needs a tissue!:)
Since he ius not going anywhere this season, wonder how many picks he will throw since he is throwing a fit?
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
Here's Another Twist
The guy stoking the fires about how the Broncos were shopping Cutler is apparently Chris Mortensen. So far the Broncos themselves keep denying that they’ve made any calls at all and that they only took calls other teams made. Mortensen’s claiming he’s getting confirmation from “multiple sources” (none of which he’s named). Adam Schefter, who’s got an inside line on the Broncos, is sticking with the story that the Broncos weren’t shopping Cutler.
So, could this be another Mortensen fabrication? Not that I’m unhappy it’s screwing up the Broncos, but that’s messed up if Mort’s trying to create a sensational story by exaggerating or misreporting what happened.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
Either way
Cutler is pissed and the damage has been done. If Mort made this up, do the Boncos have any recourse that they can take?
AFC West Champs in 2009? Mayyybee.
No
And it may not be just Mort…this is standard practice for Cutler’s agent. Peter King’s saying Cutler wanted out of Denver anyway and his agent may just be using the situation as an excuse to make Denver into the bad guy.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
I've heard this, too.
This is a post I read on a Pats forum regarding Cutler’s agent.
This is all pretty classic evidence of Bus Cook (Favre’s legendary well connected agent who had Tampa all lined up as Brett’s fallback last season pissing an already unhappy Garcia off out of the gate) trying to stir the pot because his client signed a crappy cap friendly 6 year incentivized deal that is currently paying him only $6M per even with all but his Superbowl incentives met in a $100M QB economy… They’d been talking new deal apparently with little success until this little tempest in a teapot errupted due to no efforts on Denver’s part. What would lead Tampa or Detroit to believe Jay might be available?? LOL
That Was The First Thought I Had
Contract renegotiation tactic. Nobody really gets that pissy about his name being merely mentioned in trade talks. And Cutler’s making peanuts by the standard of top NFL QBs. And this is definitely a Bus Cook type move. It’s tough to tell who’s the slimiest agent in pro sports right now…Cook, Rosenhaus, or Boras.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
Also
Peter King’s reporting that Cutler had already asked for a trade before all this went down anyway because he was angry that Bates and Shanahan were fired. And Cutler’s agent is James “Bus” Cook, Brett Favre’s agent…that guy has a history of causing problems with teams over minor incidents just to get his clients traded (as evidenced with what he did to get Favre out of Green Bay last year).
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
To Be Honest
Detroit wouldn’t have been a bad deal for him. They need a QB desperately and would probably overpay for him. He’d be throwing to Megatron (who makes bad QBs look great) and their offense has got the pieces in place to be really good next year (especially if they burn their top pick on an o-lineman). Defense is bad, but they’ve got plenty of picks to address that and they made a nice deal to score a CB with the Kitna trade.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
I just want to see Denver
Suck for once. I could care less about Cutler.
AFC West Champs in 2009? Mayyybee.
+1
Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.
They Suck All The Time
They’ve averaged 8 wins a season for three years and collapsed last season and missed the playoffs. They haven’t been Super Bowl contenders since Elway was playing.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
I think cmpotter meant
he wants to see Denver suck more than us =)
Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.
It Wasn't The Broncos' Fault That We Sucked
It was Lamar Hunt’s fault for keeping Peterson in charge for as long as he did. Hopefully the moves his son has made will rectify that.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
Huh?
Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.
I Was Saying That The Reasons We Sucked Were Managerial Ineptitude, Not Our Rivals
We’ve actually got a .500 record against the Broncos over the last 10 years and winning records against all of our other rivals. If anything the Broncos and the AFC West actually made this team look better than they were…because the Chiefs got stomped by the rest of the league.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
And I never said our rivals were a reason we suck
that’s why I was confused…
Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.
That's Not Going To Happen
Their owner isn’t a crazy person who thinks he can run the team by himself.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
Detroit would be a possibility, but I could see Cutler going to Minnesota
I am actually surprised that the Vikings didn’t start talks for Cassel even with the franchise tag – Minnesota desperately needs a QB in order to make a serious push before the windows on some of their defensive players start to close.
In fact, I could see the Vikings making a play for Warner
Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.
I Doubt It Too
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
Is the Viking QB search finished Rosenthal
or are they still looking? That’s the only reason I brought up Warner, or Cutler for that matter – I’m not sure Sage can lead them deep into the playoffs.
Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.
They just need someone mediocre.
They were on the verge of the playoffs anyway thanks to their defense and running game. They just need someone ‘average’ at QB to get them over the top because the rest of their division stinks.
Tavaris Jackson couldn’t even manage to catch a connecting flight to mediocre. Sage Rosenfels fixes that problem and should get them into the playoffs.
They talked to Cassel's agent
Apparently, the Vikings looked into it but nothing came out of it. They looked into Sage Rosenfels instead, as they tried to trade for him last season but couldn’t come to an agreement with Houston.
I personally hope they fail hard so they realize what a mistake it was to pass up on Cassel.
ESPN doen't seem to have him on as much anymore.
It is usually Clayton or Pasquirelli
AFC West Champs in 2009? Mayyybee.
Blowing Big Stories Repeatedly Will Do That
So will unapologetically admitting that you basically refuse to interview parties you’re writing a story about because you don’t like them.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
There are other outlets
That are reporting the same thing though. It isn’t just Mort.
AFC West Champs in 2009? Mayyybee.
It would neve be admitted
Even if he did mess it up all he would say is that sources told him about it just like he did with the Shanahan to KC story. In my opinion that was a bigger screw up than this one and he did not suffer for it.
Important to note about Cassel
“In half of the 16 games he played, Cassel did not throw an interception. Three times he threw two picks, but never more than that. He struggled against the No. 1 rated defensive in the league – who didn’t? – going 19 of 39 for 169 yards and two interceptions against the Steelers. But those consecutive 400-yard games came against the Dolphins and Jets, two defenses that finished in the top 11 in our year-end rankings of the league’s 32 defensive units.”
Cassel became only the 5th QB in NFL history to throw back-to-back 400 yard games.
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cassel
hopefully will solve our problems at qb i feel like we got a moble young trent green right now in his prime im excited to see what this guy can do with a great o cordinator like haley wow its going to be exciting every week and throw in gailey crazy ass schemes wow what a season we are going to have on offense . Now if we can just start making moves on D ill be happy.
We already did
Mike Vrabel will start at linebacker, and that alone is an upgrade
I fully expect our #3 pick to be a defensive player.
Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.
raji is great but
curry is in our lap we take him just because he will be in most the game were as raji he takes plays off and they say he lacks smarts and also he doest go 100% every play.
Vrabel is a start
but im talking oshansky . And i have a crazy feeling we are going to trade dorsey call me crazy but i think if we swith schemes he is gone just a feeling i just really cant see that guy running that scheme. and we could probably get some value back for him .
We basically need 3 startin linemen
and 2 more starting linebackers. Then you have to think about depth. I want a 3-4 but the transition is going to take a long while.
ya thats what im thinking too
Its going to take some good moves in free agency we need to plug some major holes especially on the line that takes special men to fill those spots.
I can't see us trading Dorsey
for anything less than a top 10 pick in the draft
Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.
wow that high really
damn if thats the case pack that guys bags i would be happy with a late first rounder
That's losing a lot of value
I would hate to trade Dorsey, because I think he is going to be really good, but if we trade him for a late first rounder only one year after we spent #5 on him, we’re taking a huge hit.
Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.
we would take a huge hit
but at the same time i rather take a hit now than wait to see this guy not work in our system im not sure he fits the mold on what we are trying to do. And dont get me wrong i think the guy can be a good player but as of now him trying to hold back two men all game long from getting to our line backers and also trying to stop the run is going to be tough.
Not for me
I would opt to take a known good player and work him into the scheme we have. I can’t see the use of trading our young experienced guys, for more unknown and inexperienced rookies. It does take 2 to 3 years for the DLinemen and OLinemen to really develop.
Dorsey is going to be a Pro Bowler one day, so I would rather we keep him and use him in the best way possible.
I also see him in the pro bowl maybe one day
But the guy in a 3 -4 is small he is to short doesnt carry enough weight and has poor fundimentals as it stands right now. Not saying the guy wont be a stud but when you put him in a 3-4 he is constantly going to be double teamed he doest have the size to push the pocket. And he struggled in a 4-3 he will really struggle in a 3-4
Ahh, sweet sanity
No way we get rid of Dorsey.
Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are more pliable. Mark Twain
Important thing about Steelers game
Cassel was throwing right on target for most of the game that day (and it was raining, by the way), but our receivers had a really bad case of the drops. Moss dropped an easy touchdown pass (maybe twice), and Gaffney dropped some wide open passes as well. I do remember one INT being a bad throw, though, but I think at that point the game had fallen out of our reach (terrible day all around for the entire team except Kevin Faulk).
The Rams game, another two-interception performance (although with one TD as well), neither INT was Cassel’s fault. Wes Welker tripped up on the turf all by himself while running his route, so a DB was there to catch the pass instead. The other was a ball that shot up into the air after bouncing off Randy’s shoulder, if I remember correctly.
by NESilver on Mar 2, 2009 11:10 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
If you don't consistently use his new nickname,
it’ll never stick!
You think it's coincidence that I bleed red?
did she shine your silver
yo man my moms shines the silver at my house. hahahh that was the classic line in juice the movie hahah. Did she give you the snappy nappy dug out.
Question for you Silver
Now that Cassel was traded to the Chiefs do you think O’Connel will get a shot at the backup spot. He was drafted pretty high considering it was NE and being from San Diego I know he is a heck of an athlete that can be a monster if he puts it together. What is the feeling in NE about him?
I wanted the Chiefs to draft O'Connell last year
If he can make Jeff Webb look good, he’s at least somethin’, right?
Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.
He looks good
He’ll definitely get a shot at the backup spot. Belichick knows O’Connel had to deal with a crappy O-line while he was in college, but he liked what he saw from him. The only thing they need to work on with O’Connel are his footwork and throwing mechanics. He’s a little raw but I’m sure the Pats can bring him along.
I also expect the Patriots to bring in a little competition for him, as the job is never just given to you here in New England.
Cutler
how about we go ahead and get a hold of denver and see if they still want cassle and see what they will throw in maybe the want to get rid of marshal as well. i know he gets in trouble a lot but he is good.
How diabetical of you....
/poor taste
No thanks on sending anyone of value to Denver. Seeing a McImplosion would be awesome though.
by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Mar 2, 2009 1:39 PM CST up reply actions
The Cutler Debacle is more fun than the Cassel trade.
Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.
That would be a great meeting to hear.
Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are more pliable. Mark Twain
The one they're having today.
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