And with the #6 Pick in the Arrowhead Pride Mock Draft, the Cincinnati Bengals Select...
by Chris Thorman on Mar 18, 2009 9:47 AM CDT
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Alabama OT Andre Smith |
mistamic with the pick...
Cincinnati had a lot of issues on the offensive side of the ball last season. Their star quarterback missed most of the season due to injury and their running game was nonexistent. Wanna know why? It was because of their offensive line. A few years ago it was one of the best lines in the league. But free agency and injuries decimated this unit and now they need help. Guess what? This year's draft is stacked deep with offensive linemen and Cincy manages to pick up the best one in the draft: Alabama OT Andre Smith.
Smith is a legitimate Top 3 talent. His decision making is questionable but you can't deny his talent. He's a beast of a man (6'4", 330lbs) and yet despite his size he has excellent footwork and technique. He's a legitimate pass blocker but his niche lies within run blocking. He's a pancake machine (watch the Youtube videos of his moves). And my favorite thing about him: he doesn't have a history with injuries. He held down the left tackle spot for the last three years at Alabama but scouts believe that he could line up on the right side as well. He was the 2008 Outland Award Winner and was on numerous All-American lists. He did get suspended from the Sugar Bowl because he violated team rules, and for those who watched the game, Utah's D just lit up the left side of the line (actually they lit up the whole line but without Smith in the lineup Alabama had no chance). Even when he got suspended from the Sugar Bowl, scouts believed that he could have ended up being the first player drafted.
Okay, there are some red flags being thrown up because of his immaturity and poor decision making. His decision to leave the Combine early was a mistake. His Pro Day performance wasn't that much better. Some think that Smith is no longer worthy of a top 10 pick. Whatever. I'm not buying it. Compared to the other players in that Bengals locker room, Smith's "character issues" don't seem so severe. He's still the best O-lineman in the draft and Cincy makes the right choice by picking Smith.
Previous pick: WR Michael Crabtree
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With the news that the Bengals are trying to trade their only notable (and he's not even that good anymore) offensive linemen in Levi Jones, the Bengals o-line situation goes from bad to worse. We're talking 2007 Chiefs bad. Andre Smith is a good pick here for a team that could go in a number of directions.
| Pick | Round 1 | Selection | Date |
| 1 | Detroit Lions - UCrawford | LB Aaron Curry | Weds. March 10th |
| 2 | St. Louis Rams - Lanier63 | OT Jason Smith | Monday, March 16th |
| 3 | Kansas City Chiefs - TonyG88 | OT Eugene Monroe | Monday, March 16th |
| 4 | Seattle Seahawks - mikvogel | DT B.J. Raji | Tuesday, March 17th |
| 5 | Cleveland Browns - HIV2Elway | WR Michael Crabtree | Tuesday, March 17th |
| 6 | Cincinnati Bengals - mistamic | OT Andre Smith |
Weds., March 18th |
| 7 | Oakland Raiders - mushin | Weds., March 18th | |
| 8 | Jacksonville Jaguars - DThomasReigns | Thursday, March 19th | |
| 9 | Green Bay Packers - JasonM | Thursday, March 19th | |
| 10 | San Francisco 49ers - Harry Feltersnatch | Friday, March 20th | |
| 11 | Buffalo Bills - ArrowDread | Friday, March 20th | |
| 12 | Denver Broncos - Keyser Sose | Monday, March 23rd | |
| 13 | Washington Redskins - Official Arrowhead Pride Parade | Monday, March 23rd | |
| 14 | New Orleans Saints - cmpotter | Tuesday, March 24th | |
| 15 | Houston Texans - ChiefsDude | Tuesday, March 24th | |
| 16 | San Diego Chargers - Helmets | Weds., March 25th | |
| 17 | New York Jets - NJChief | Weds., March 25th | |
| 18 | Chicago Bears - Holmeslice | Thursday, March 26th | |
| 19 | Tampa Bay Buccaneers - madtheory | Thursday, March 26th | |
| 20 | Detroit Lions (from Dallas) - UCrawford | Friday, March 27th | |
| 21 | Philadelphia Eagles - Chiefsfan717 | Friday, March 27th | |
| 22 | Minnesota Vikings - kcsno56 | Monday, March 30th | |
| 23 | New England Patriots - connerman | Monday, March 30th | |
| 24 | Atlanta Falcons - RedNose | Tuesday, March 31st | |
| 25 | Miami Dolphins - shraggyj | Tuesday, March 31st | |
| 26 | Baltimore Ravens - Ben S | Weds., April 1st | |
| 27 | Indianapolis Colts - craig in calgary | Weds., April 1st | |
| 28 | Philadelphia Eagles (from Carolina) - Chiefsfan717 | Thursday, April 2nd | |
| 29 | New York Giants - ChiefsFan90s | Thursday, April 2nd | |
| 30 | Tennessee Titans - Lvl.99 | Friday, April 3rd | |
| 31 | Arizona Cardinals - THE_TRUTH | Friday, April 3rd | |
| 32 | Pittsburgh Steelers - McWhirt33 | Monday, April 6th |
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Cant argue here
especially with the news of Jones coming out. Of course, that might be trade bait to some other team wanting a quality o-lineman and wanting to trade up to get him.
My crystal ball says Jay Cutler cries himself to sleep every night.
I read in that link that Jones may be cut too
if they can’t trade him.
by Chris Thorman on Mar 18, 2009 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions
It's a good pick for them.
If he has any pride at all, he’ll get serious and become a great one.
Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are more pliable. Mark Twain
It's Odd
The bad character guys just seem to fall to Cincinnati (Keith Rivers excepted)…they don’t even appear to seek them out. I completely agree with the pick, and it’s the right move for Cincy. They need help at tackle if they want to keep Palmer on the field.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
I disagree with the postion Smith is taken in from his standpoint
But I agree with the need for Cincy and the fact they are getting the “bad Character” player. Smith is a disappointment at this point and shows the need to remain in good condition and give a crap about your future when your college days are over.
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new assclown and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
I Think Of All The Top Ten Talents
He has the highest bust potential (including Crabtree, Stafford, and Sanchez). But I also think he has the potential to be the best player in this draft. It all depends.
And sometimes getting passed over by other teams can have a positive effect on a player’s performance. It’s always important to keep in mind that these guys are still young adults and young adults don’t all mature at the same rate. And the reason for his suspension from the Sugar Bowl wasn’t criminal activity, it was related to improper association with an agent, which isn’t good but then also isn’t the same as him slapping around a woman or robbing a liquor store. Dropping down five spots in the draft will cost him millions, so maybe he does figure out that he’s wrong and fixes himself. Or maybe he stays a butthead. Point is, his talent is probably worth the risk for the Bengals considering he’s probably the BPA at this point and he fits a critical need.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
have we done a draft pole like that who is the biggest bust potential i would have
smith sanchez orakpo crabtree and stafford
FOUR F'S FIND UM FEEL UM FUGUM FORGET UM.
by sexassassin on Mar 18, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Agree with this one
If he can keep it together this is a solid pick.
A bit off topic, but did anyone else see the reports that Cincy may be eyeing Beanie Wells with this pick?
Not sure coaches/managers are ignoring the post-season drama
Does he deserve top 10 money at this point? He’s labeled himself as a significant risk.
this guy is the biggest risk in the draft
and he is going to a team that has a bad history with players getting in trouble not a good place to go the bangals are the new raiders in my opinion and if this guy goes there he will not be the man they are looking for. This guy really is a risk no bowl game walks out on combine and then has a horrible pro day. No heart no passion looking for a check bengles i know you need oline in the worst way but do not take this guy you will regret it when this guys using your check to buy a blinged out bra to hold those tits up.
FOUR F'S FIND UM FEEL UM FUGUM FORGET UM.
Its the President race all over! :)
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new assclown and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
its chincy
its hard to get excited about who they pick and I’m betting a lot of people would get more excited if the chiefs had a pick coming up. Thats just my opinion
Agree with the pick, but for arguments sake will go with Oher here.
With Stacey Andrews gone and Jones possibly on his way out, the odds have to say they go OT here. This may be a team that will look to trade up just so they can avoid Smith or trade down in an effort to target Oher.
If the interview with Smith goes bad enough, they might even take Oher this high. (Though we are talking about Cincy who seems to use a Wedgie Board to judge character).
Oher has the skills to be a top tackle, it’s a consistency issue with him. I think I heard McShay explain as mental lapses. If they don’t move their pick, then Cincy gets a choice between possibly lazy or possibly retarded err I mean focus challenged. If Chris Henry put a gun to my head again, I would have to go with the mental lapse over the Ryan Sims Jr. Either of em can get your QB killed, but at least Oher would be trying when Palmer lands in the hospital.
mushin thanks for mixing it up
no one has been more harsher on oher than i have but . What do you do ? do you take a pretty good character guy in oher who loves to play and compete doesnt have polished skills or a guy who has tons of character issues have no clue what he will do with his money but has all the talent in the world i might go oher here just because the guy has the desire to improve.
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My thought exactly
I think this whole value thing has gotten out of whack, except with the Patriots. Teams look way too hard at what the value of a player should be and not enough at the player and how they fit into their team.
If you draft a good player that can help your football team isn’t that a success? According to most pundits its not unless you draft the BPA every time, even if you have absolutely no need for them.
Lets look at it like this. If the Chiefs REALLY needed a CB for example and they felt that Malcolm Jenkins was a future pro-bowler that was going to upgrade the hell out of their D, did they make a mistake? I just think it’s way too easy to get caught up in the Jimmy Johnson value chart.
or how bout this one…If the Chiefs could trade the Eagles for their 21 and 28th pick for the #3 (which is WAY under the value) would that be worth it? Even if they needed the picks, and managed to pick up a DE that made sense and a Center?
Sometimes we loose the forest for the post draft grades
ya last year i
was pulling for long but thought that we would have vernon gholston I still think vernon could be a good player in the correct system but he was a total bust this year and he is getting payed and i heard the guy is a nice guy. but mangini had it out for him and didnt like his play. But true a lot of teams look at the mike mayock stuff and get sold . Hell i thought glen dorsey was going to be in the back field every year i never knew he was 2 feet tall i was sold but i still have hope but i was really sold.
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He has the talent to be selected here...
But players with character problem seem to slide down. Than again, the Cincinnati Bengals would be the ones to stop that from happening.
I agree absolutely...
There is too much need for this position by the Bengals for them to pass….even if he is a future Turd Watch candidate…
i can already see him and chad walking around on the side lines
with hall of fame coats on hahah what a loser chad is
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He has tallent but...
you might want to read this article before deciding he is a top 10 pick.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Andre-Smith-s-draft-free-fall-continues?urn=nfl,147436
I wanted to comment
that I’m playing Devil’s Advocate when I say this may not be a good pick. Andre Smith used to be #1 prospect and that was based on solid game data. Bottom line, there’s still a good chance he’ll be a difference maker for whichever team drafts him.
key lines in that article wild cat
The way things are going, teams will be drafting equipment managers before they draft Andre Smith. Most decent stadium hot dog vendors are more highly sought-after. Dan Leone will be drafted before Andre Smith.
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I agree with the pick
Tits McGee will more than likely have a solid NFL career, yes he has a sketchy personality but the dude can ball. Oher is another option at this slot but definately have to go OL.
"The spirit, the will to win, and the will to excel are the things that endure. These qualities are so much more important than the events that occur." - Vince Lombardi
they probably yelled that out at the combine
TIITS TIIITS MCGEE IS THERE A TITS MCGEE.
Noooo hes on vacation !!!!
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No way
this guy goes in the first ten after all the nonsense that surrounds him.
I really believe that Andre Smith is still the best OT in the draft
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