Last season, the Kansas City Chiefs signed quarterback Quinn Gray in an emergency situation. He played in one game for the Chiefs in 2008.
Wednesday, with their quarterback situation much more settled, the Chiefs terminated the contract of Gray.
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So...
They really are looking at Brokie and Pigpen as backups. We never saw a win with Brokie so I thought they would get rid of him and stick with Gray. I guess I was mistaken.
There's no hope with dope...
Looks like Matt Cassel is going to be the starter
Chiefs released QB Quinn Gray.
Gray was only due $750,000, but new GM Scott Pioli didn’t deem the former Jaguar worth bringing to training camp. The Chiefs will roll with Tyler Thigpen, Brodie Croyle (knee surgery), and Ingle Martin behind Matt Cassel.
This is what usatoday.com is reporting and this is the link
http://fantasyfootball.usatoday.com/content/clubhouse.asp?sport=NFL&majteam=KC
by THE CHAMP IS HERE on Mar 11, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions
There is a chance that Brodie Croyle could be released
On sports they said if Tyler Thigpen stays there is a chance that Brodie Croyle could end up getting released or traded
If i was the Chiefs. I would trade both of them off because they both SUCK
by THE CHAMP IS HERE on Mar 11, 2009 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Are You a HOMER Kansas City Shuffle
Man you have to stop being a IDIOT. Because your going to become a HOMER of the arrowheadpride website because of all your stupidity
by THE CHAMP IS HERE on Mar 11, 2009 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions
You call someone an idiot, lets proofread...
Man you have to stop being an idiot. Because you’regoing to become a Homer of the arrowheadpride website because of all your stupidity.
Commentary:
If you are going to resort to questioning someone’s intelligence, at least make sure you grasp basic grammar and the difference between the contraction “you are” and 2nd person possessive “your.”
HIV 2 Elway
So let me guess…Your a MULE fan posting on a Chiefs blog. That is really cool and what a LOSER as well
by THE CHAMP IS HERE on Mar 11, 2009 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Champ is here...
Go away
If you go out and you’re looking for the girl to wink at you and she hasn’t winked at you before 12 she isn’t going to. You might as well go home.
by craig in calgary on Mar 11, 2009 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Ignore who?
Cassel vs. Thigpen in Camp should improve the play of both.
Next on the need list: linebacker, and both lines
by Bleedingredandgold on Mar 12, 2009 12:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Ignore who? who is that? :)
that was bleeding’s joke…
by Eastcoastransplant on Mar 12, 2009 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Ignore Jcomp11 and craig in calgary. They are just HOMERS
HUSTLE, LOYALTY, RESPECT, DOWN SINCE DAY 1
THE CHAMP IS HERE
by THE CHAMP IS HERE on Mar 12, 2009 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions
CRAIG IN CALGARY. READ THIS...IT WILL LEARN YOU SOMETHING
HUSTLE, LOYALTY, RESPECT, DOWN SINCE DAY 1
THE CHAMP IS HERE
by THE CHAMP IS HERE on Mar 12, 2009 8:34 AM CDT up reply actions
Hey newbie
We don’t see you because you keep inundating the board with advertisements that are getting old really quick.
If we wanted to discuss a predetermined outcome like “wrassling”, than we’d have a soap opera site, not a real sports site.
Don’t keep hating on the folks on here that are regulars. No one takes you seriously until you “earn” it.
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
+!
And disrespecting others who disagree with you is not anyway to earn anything.
by Eastcoastransplant on Mar 12, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions
How does Gray gettin released
have anything to do with Cassel being the starter?
Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.
YIIIIKES ALABAMA OT SMITH BOMBS IN PRO DAY
http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=526524
FOUR F'S FIND UM FEEL UM FUGUM FORGET UM.
If Pioli and Haley
thought enough of his “character” they might. But this doesn’t look to good for that case. Doesn’t really fit that “smart, fast, tough and disciplined” kind of player profile they’ve been preaching about.
Vae Victis!
Dude
if Smith falls to the third, he could be an absolute STEAL of a Right Tackle in Round 3. I don’t care how bad his Pro Day was, or how many character issues he has; with his talent and ability, I have to believe SOMEBODY will grab him in round 2.
Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.
PVChiefsfan. It wont be a steal. It will be a bust like Glenn Dorsey was
If the Chiefs want to make a steal they will take Micheal Crabtree
HUSTLE, LOYALTY, RESPECT, DOWN SINCE DAY 1
THE CHAMP IS HERE
by THE CHAMP IS HERE on Mar 12, 2009 8:35 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree he'd be a ridiculous steal
But he’s not making it to round 2, much less round 3.
Too much talent. I’ll be shocked if he gets out of the 1st half of round 1. You’re also seeing some people mention that he didn’t run any worse than the other OT prospects at the combine.
I’ll be honest, as a RT in the NFL, the guy is just about perfect. Sure he’s overweight, but he’s always been overweight. I’d stick some weight clauses in his contract, and understand he’s going to be on the big side. I watched Bama play 5+ times this year, and he consistently stood out.
There’s no point in worrying about it, b/c the Chiefs aren’t getting him, but if used correctly, and motivated properly, he’s still looking at an fine career.
so we are going with a qb
who did not throw a touchdown last season . and releasing a guy that did.Oh well either way as long as cassel balls im good
FOUR F'S FIND UM FEEL UM FUGUM FORGET UM.
I'm ready to be converted
Make me a Pac-10 believer, Matty C!!! I’m ready to be saved!
by chiefstatnut on Mar 11, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Unquestionably the best
Got more time?
Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are more pliable. Mark Twain
6 - 2 in bowl games and a Natl. Championship.
How did your conference do?
Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are more pliable. Mark Twain
Oh i know how they finished.
I just dont want to hear about it.
Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.
3 straight Natl. Championships.
Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are more pliable. Mark Twain
You have way toooo many favorite teams.
Its very easy to cherry pick when you do that. That way you can always have a fall back!
Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.
Dude. Dont call me a cherry picker. I
I’ve been fans of my “newest” team for a decade. Don’t talk shit if you can’t back it up.
Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are more pliable. Mark Twain
How am I talking shit?
You have like 5 favorite teams.
Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.
different sports, yeah.
We’re not allowed to like more than 1 sport? Give it up.
Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are more pliable. Mark Twain
Sideline ref
says no shit talking here. Play on
by KansasCityShuffle on Mar 11, 2009 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions
I guess I just don't understand
how you can be a fan of the Jayhawks and the Gators? I don’t get it I guess.
Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.
basketball and football.
Grew up in KC, been in Florida 10 years. I don’t get your criticism.
Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are more pliable. Mark Twain
No criticism,
I guess i just have such a hatred for SEC schools in general that i could never like any of thier teams in any sport. That goes for the Big 10, Pac 10 and so forth
Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.
And I should have put
a smiley face at the end of my first post. I wasn’t really meaning to start a fight. I just get sick of hearing about SEC… and yes it’s because they dominate.
Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.
Aite!
The NFL is so much better do to the parity in the league. College is all about recruiting. College is more about the Coach’s ability to recruit than it is to develop talent, scheming or game planning. You can win on talent alone in the NCAA you can’t do that in the NFL. So to quit ranting and to get on with my point. The reason the SEC dominates is due to thier ability to attract top tier talent year in and year out.
Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.
And I understand your reaction now.
I can’t stand the Big 11, the Pac10, or the ACC. I do like the Big 12 in both football and hoops. I stick up for them constantly here. I couldn’t defend the defenses this year. I strenuously defended Big 12 hoops just this morning.
Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are more pliable. Mark Twain
What, games on too late for you?
We Pac-10 homers have to watch a full day of Big10 slop, Big12 piss poor defenses, and SEC over hype before we get the real action out west.
Way too late
I have 3 teenage girls! By 11 I’ve taken my Xanax and I’m out.
Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are more pliable. Mark Twain
RU serious?
It’s a one team conference.
Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are more pliable. Mark Twain
What?
The Summers Eve bowl? Against the Little Sisters of the Poor Retarts?
Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are more pliable. Mark Twain
you're in denial
So … if closing the gap with the MWC and proving that you’re better than the teams that finished fourth in the ACC Coastal and the Big 12 South are worth shouting about, then have at it.
The fact of the matter is that a 5-0 postseason record will only bring the Pac-10 to .500 (17-17) versus non-conference Football Bowl Subdivision teams. That’s what happens when your winning percentage in all non-conference games during the regular season ranks ahead of only the MAC, C-USA and Sun Belt.
Even though it ended with a flourish, 2008 was far from a vintage year in the Pac-10.
Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are more pliable. Mark Twain
Far from a vintage year, I agree...
yet they were still 5-0 in bowls and had the best team in the nation. The conference record versus non-con is skewed because of teams like U Dub and Dub State. But what did the conference do against alleged powerhouses Ohio State, Penn State, BYU, and Notre Dame? Kicked ass.
The quality of bowl games the conference gets is unquestionably impacted by the rampant east coast bias the media applies to their arbitrary weekly rankings.
in all seriousness
The Pac10 is at maybe the 5th best conference in the land, behind the sec, big12, big east, acc, and it could be argued, the mvc. They are better than the big 11, I’ll give you that.
Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are more pliable. Mark Twain
Best team in the nation
Why, they are 50 miles down the road from here; in Gainesville, Florida baby.
Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are more pliable. Mark Twain
Hey
I used to live at 71st and roe. Thats pretty close to Brookside. I always liked that area. It’s been great debating with you guys. Lotsa fun. Talk to you soon. Zanny’s kickin in. Nite ;)
Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are more pliable. Mark Twain
I go to a Big 12 school
and am willing to say the Pac10 is a better conference. The big 12 makes it to bowl games because they spend most of the season playing against other big 12 teams which have among the worst defenses in the nation. If I had to bet on a game featuring a Big 12 team against another conference, I would usually bet on the other guy.
by Chiefs4Life on Mar 11, 2009 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Makes Sense
It’s not like they were going to cut Thigpen or Croyle. Thigpen is more than a capable backup and Croyle was drafted by the team. Although he is a fragile as China, he has the tools to be a serviceable (sp). I actually liked Gray and was hoping he would stick. By the way isn’t Ingle Martin still on the team? Why? Is he better than Grey?
Ingle Martin is still on the team
That doesn’t mean he will be on opening day though.
by Chris Thorman on Mar 11, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions
I believe Martin
is younger than Gray. Might have given him the nudge on the roster.
"I can only imagine what it is going to be like in that town if we are fortunate to build a winner. You win there, you can sense that it would be something really special." - Todd Haley
and in the wallet
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new assclown and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
That too.
"I can only imagine what it is going to be like in that town if we are fortunate to build a winner. You win there, you can sense that it would be something really special." - Todd Haley
QB competition just dwindled, or
they have their eye on a QB in the draft.
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
Rats
Everywhere I’ve seen Gray play (Jacksonville, Indy, KC) he’s played well. I don’t know why he can’t make the cut anywhere. I believe he’s better than both Brodie & Ingle
by KansasCityShuffle on Mar 11, 2009 4:07 PM CDT reply actions
agreed
And it bothers me (sometimes) when folks just agree, but then have nothing else to say. It’s like teenagers out west (of which I work with way too many of) saying ‘same’ ‘same’ . I hate that. It’s a non addition to a conversation. So here I am trying to add something aside from agreeing, but really all I am doing is taking up space. Sigh…. :)
by Eastcoastransplant on Mar 12, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions
That obvious?
Just one of my 8th graders who is a little punk. And I mean, you try right? I actually give a shit. But he got into a fight, or almost did, and I broke it up, and sent em both to the office without a moment’s second thought. And they got detentions. Deal with it right? But he’s playing the I’m a victim card and it’s freaking annoying. I just wanna bitch slap some sense into this kid b/c his attitude isn’t helping his cause any. And the thing is this kid could be doing so much better, but he doesn’t care at all. And now, he isn’t going to do the work outta defiance to me, cuz I’m the bad guy that didn’t let him get into a fight and busted him for trying to. To be honest I don’t care whether he likes me or not, but it bugs me to no end that he’s gonna rebel against me, by not doing the work (as I represent authority, and all he is going to end up doing, is hurting himself. Oh well. You can’t reach em all. :(
by Eastcoastransplant on Mar 12, 2009 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions
And this has what to do with
The Chiefs!?! hah.
by Eastcoastransplant on Mar 12, 2009 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Get used to it
These young’uns were spawned from an entire generation of indifference. Imagine what this little punk goes home to every afternoon. I deal with the parents of these kinds of kids all day long and I swear I can’t understand how so many of them can survive in this world. And to think they’re bearing crotch-fruit! What can you do?!?!
Go Chiefs!
Vae Victis!
Ever see Idiocracy?
May have been one of the worst movies ever. But it’s premise is awesome. Smart people, being smart, tend to reproduce with fewer and fewer offspring, while stupider folk, well they do the bunny thing and eventually we end up with a world populated by idiots as anyone with intelligence breeds themselves out of existence. Crotch-fruit indeed!
by Eastcoastransplant on Mar 13, 2009 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Darwin-esq arguments!
Perfect. Although I may have de-evolved in terms of brain function for watching it :)
by Eastcoastransplant on Mar 13, 2009 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Wonder if
Chan Gailey having worked with all of the QBs here just felt that Grey would not make it anyway. I am sure if he was better than the rest they would have kept him. Is he also the oldest?
Drafting a QB
Looking back at the Patriots history they have always tried drafting QBs even when having a star onboard. I think just because we traded for Cassel doesn’t mean we wont draft a QB this year. I think it will be Cassel, Thigpen, and a rookie drafted in the middle to late rounds.
I'm perfectly fine with that idea
middle/late rounds for a qb
I just don’t think this is the year for early round qbs and was fearful of that move – until we got Cassel
The General Theory of Royaltivity
Brodie will be gone also
I don’t plan on seeing Brodie around to start the season. I think Gray just happened to be the first move.
I RATHER HAVE MATT CASSEL OVER THIGPEN AND CROYLE
Brodie Croyle and Tyler Thigpen just up right suck and they proved that in 2008
Look for Matt Cassel to get the starting job with out even having to fight for it
by THE CHAMP IS HERE on Mar 11, 2009 8:51 PM CDT reply actions
Thigpen and Cassel.
You know, it’s great to say that Thigpen sucks, but I guess I’m struggling to find how you’d manage to back that up. Especially considering that he had a season that was statistically extremely similar to Cassel’s throwing to receivers that weren’t, well, the Patriots’ receiving corps, while starting less games … ?
Sure, he didn’t win as many games as Cassel did, but most of the losses could be directly laid at the feet of late-game defensive collapses, rather than Thiggy’s inability to lead the offense.
And, when you take that into consideration, it either means that Cassel sucks, too (which I’m more than willing to allow for) or that Thiggy’s not nearly as bad as you’d like to claim.
[ And, for the record, Brodie Croyle is a damn good quarterback. He’s just far too fragile for the NFL. That’s not a knock on his skills, that’s a knock on his durability. There’s a huge difference, which you seem to fail to comprehend. ]
Yeah they proved they sucked when thigpen came in and threw
20 touchdowns in 8 games..News Flash for Champ : Get real..He was the best qb we’ve had in there since Trent Green in 2005 and get this Thigpen is 25..
by CALIFAN1986 on Mar 11, 2009 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Thigpen is the next rich gannon
Brodie is not a damn good qb..He has not looked like a good qb yet in any game I’ve seen him play in the nfl..He’s like decent..And then gets injured
by CALIFAN1986 on Mar 11, 2009 10:21 PM CDT reply actions
Don't worry Brodie haters
He won’t be on the roster come opening day. If he has any value Pioli will get something for him, but I don’t think he does.
My guess is we draft a project in the later rounds and he’s our #3, but even if we don’t, we’ll bring someone in to ‘compete’ for the 3rd QB job, and they’ll end up beating out Croyle.
Now…I’d have rather had seen Croyle cut today, and Gray be left around to battle for the #3 spot, but I can’t really blame them for going this direction, Croyle’s younger, and its hard to make a case for keeping Quinn (30 when next year starts) as a #3 QB. On a team like ours that still has a ways to go, the #3 QB spot has to be a developmental one.
NOW, I will say, this move pretty much eliminates the posibility of trading Tyler, barring the signing of someone like Leftwich.
Now, lets go get Pace or Barnes!
Looks like Pioli has his eye on a QB in the later rounds of the draft
Perhaps Nathan Brown? Guess we’ll find out in a little bit over a month……
I believe Croyle could be effective still
he has to bulk up, but he might have a better throwing motion then cassel, just sayin, he wouldnt have went in the 3rd round if he had no talent.
I think Croyle is a wash-out
bulk or not. He may have the skills and the mechanics, but he’s lacking durability. He even had injury problems in college. I’d be surprised if he ever plays in another NFL game. He is a supreme disappointment and every team in the league knows it.
Vae Victis!
Completely agree
I think its much more likely than not that Brodie never takes another NFL snap, at least in the regular season.
I think
if you look at all the busts as per this post, then it kinda proves your argument wrong. When a players is chosen in the draft it’s determined by his hype and potential (ok his potential talent and impact in the league), but neither determine if he’ll succeed. Brady was taken in the bottom of round 6 (199th overall). Giovanni Carmazzi was taken at number 65, beginning of round three. If your response to that is ‘who?’ that’s my point.
by Eastcoastransplant on Mar 12, 2009 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions
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