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Tony Gonzalez Says Not So Fast on the Trade Talk

Tony Gonzalez created a bit of hoopla yesterday when he strongly insinuated that he was unhappy with the current direction of the Kansas City Chiefs and that he was considering leaving KC, however that may occur.

Well, according to FOX Sports, our Hall of Famer says the previous Yahoo! Sports article that published his incendiary comments misrepresented his feelings. From the Pro Bowl festivities earlier today:

"I want to make sure people know I have not asked for a trade.o Bowl practice. I haven't even talked to (new Chiefs general manager Scott) Pioli yet. I said there are reasons I would ask for a trade, but depending on the coach they bring in and the free-agent acquisitions, I could easily be a Chief next year, too. In fact, that's the direction I want to go."

I'm surprised this out of context quote stuff doesn't happen more often. TG explained his feelings in a much more cordial manner than a certain teammate of his did earlier today.

"It's always been important to me to approach this game with class and do the right thing. I have been so fortunate to be with the Chiefs. They've always taken good care of me. I have no complaints and I love the city, but who knows what's going to happen."

Like Tony said, who knows what is going to happen.

Note: Anyone else get the feeling like we're going to find out who the next head coach is tomorrow? Miss Arrowhead Pride is getting her widsom teeth pulled tomorrow so I'm taking the day off to blog/take care of her. I should be able to blog most of the day. Stay tuned tomorrow for full coverage.

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That's more like it

A proper expression of how Tony G feels.

by TonyG88 on Feb 4, 2009 5:18 PM CST reply actions  

Tomorrow or Friday, at the latest

My heart says Haley, but I have a dark horse “attraction” (this could be taken the wrong way) to the Vikings’ guy, Leslie. I’m prediciting we’ll get Haley, but if we got Leslie Frazier, I’ll be glued to this blog for the next day and a half.

-cw

"If there’s a god he’s laughing at us and our football team." - Ben Folds

by webby37 on Feb 4, 2009 5:20 PM CST reply actions  

Found this from a donkey fan on Frazier:

    I actually had a discussion about Frazier with MasterRWayne last night pertaining to the Broncos. We both agree he will likely get the job, and may lure Raheem Morris to Denver as the DC. Frazier’s temperament is ideal for Denver. Let’s face it: The Broncos have a lot of cocky dudes on their team who love to talk even though they ain’t never won nothing. Guys like Cutler and Marshall need someone even keeled to keep them in line. Frazier fits the bill there. He is very much from the Tony Dungy school of coaching. John Madden once said he was more a Buddy Ryan-style coach.

    Madden is, of course, dead wrong.

    Frazier takes after Dungy in temperment and philosophy. If he arrives in Denver, the defense will shift to a Tampa-2. He might blitz a bit more, especially if Denver gets some size at LBer. But, size in a Tampa-2 is not important. Denver needs a pass rush. Their offense is high powered and can score points quick. If their defense can pressure the passer, especially is Denver has the lead, the Broncos are in good shape. Frazier is a good coach if that is the direction the team wants to go in

home, of the....CHIEEEEEFS!

by Holmeslice on Feb 4, 2009 10:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Sounds like..

HERM

home, of the....CHIEEEEEFS!

by Holmeslice on Feb 4, 2009 10:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Tony's a classy guy and we could use him on the team.

But he needs to just make up his mind if the POSSIBILITY of going to another team that might have a better chance at going to the Super Bowl is more important to him than retiring a Chief.

Last year he was upset because he apparently misunderstood the circumstances of a deal that could have sent him to Green Bay at a time they were contending. But as it turns out, they did not end the year on a very high note, not even making the playoffs.

Tony needs to be sure he understands that leaving the Chiefs does no automatically guarantee him a Super Bowl victory. Right now he is the hero of thousands of Chiefs fans, but that will be tarnished a bit if he plays his last year with another team.

So which is more important to Tony? Securing his legacy as one of the greatest players in KC history, or a CHANCE at going to the Super Bowl which has a high chance of failure in itself. Tony could end up with less than what he has now.

by ChiefDJ on Feb 4, 2009 5:22 PM CST reply actions  

He's being stupid

I can respect the competitor in him that just wants to win, but Tony is a God in KC and if he chooses to be traded he’s gambling.

by KansasCityShuffle on Feb 4, 2009 5:27 PM CST up reply actions  

What is he gambling though?

Even if he gets traded, he’s still a god here. Heck, we still love Neil Smith, and he went to our most hated rival. There is no downside to him asking for a trade. The only downside is him asking for a trade publicly.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Feb 4, 2009 5:54 PM CST up reply actions  

DJ said it best

"If he stays his chances of going to the Super Bowl are almost zero. But if he goes he loses a lot of status he has here in KC and still might not go. "

by KansasCityShuffle on Feb 4, 2009 5:58 PM CST up reply actions  

See I don't think he loses status

Unless he whines about being traded. Which he is starting to do. But if he had kept it quiet and just been traded, I think most fans would still adore him.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Feb 4, 2009 6:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Neil Smith

is a good example. Sure he’s still loved but if he finished his career as a Chief I have a feeling he’d be a bigger deal in the KC area than he already is

by KansasCityShuffle on Feb 4, 2009 6:00 PM CST up reply actions  

I hate the Bronco's to, but Neil's still got a ring

so does Kawika, and Tynes. Crap even Beisel nearly got a ring if only Arizona won.

I’d have to agree with Retro about Tony keeping it silent and still being a fan favorite.

Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.

by aPacificChief on Feb 5, 2009 12:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed about not knowing the future

The teams reported to be interested in Tony was Buffalo, and they sucked.

Green Bay, and they sucked also.

The team that would have benefited from Tony the most was the Giants, but they screwed up by not giving up the compensation. So that would fall more in a bad personel decision on NY’s part.

I also believe that things happen for a reason, so who knows maybe we will be able to contend for the trophy soon.

Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.

by aPacificChief on Feb 4, 2009 5:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Hmmm

“I could easily be a Chief next year, too. In fact, that’s the direction I want to go.”"

That doesn’t exactly sound like he’s thrilled to be here.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Feb 4, 2009 5:26 PM CST reply actions  

Not at all

He was completely overcompensating for his comments yesterday.

by Chris Thorman on Feb 4, 2009 5:28 PM CST up reply actions  

He wants to be a Chief and he wants to win

Right now though, those two things might be mutually exclusive.

I understand his dilemma, but he needs to just make up his mind and live with it either way.

He can either stay in KC and contribute to the rebuilding and be loved and adored by the fans here and have a nice ceremony for him when the Chiefs DO win the Super Bowl after he is retired. Or he can roll the dice and go to another team that he thinks might go to the Super Bowl that could have their QBs knee blown out the first game of the season and go 5-11.

If he stays his chances of going to the Super Bowl are almost zero. But if he goes he loses a lot of status he has here in KC and still might not go.

by ChiefDJ on Feb 4, 2009 5:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Tony

Needs to just stay out the spot light get ready for this next season start recruiting guys to come to this team and stop his mouth . Yes the guy is the best to ever walk the earth ok i get it but if you cant win start showing these guys around you this is a good organization and try to help get other players in kansas city so we can win a championship.

by sexassassin on Feb 4, 2009 6:21 PM CST reply actions  

Next Coach

I like Haley and I like Frazier. I’ve heard good things about Ferentz so I’d be cool with any of them. I’m betting on Haley…

by FrankPitts on Feb 4, 2009 6:30 PM CST reply actions  

Tony

If he wants a ring he needs to go. Like Favre will always be a Packer and Jordan a Bull he will always be a Chief.

by FrankPitts on Feb 4, 2009 6:31 PM CST reply actions  

I think he's acting like a bitch

Of course you can see where he’s comming from. Who gives a shit?!?! He’s under (massive) contract to do a job. His signature on that contract is his guarantee that he’ll do his part. He really shouldn’t have anything else to say about it. WTF Tony? You think the fans like paying top dollar to watch you guys lose? Why the hell would you think we would want to pay to watch you lose AND hear you bitch about it too? If you want out, talk to the man in charge, not some sports writer who’s job it is to spew anything and everything you say all over the world. Show that class you’re known for and shut the hell up. Bitching about it publicly will only hurt your trade value.

by Buck'O on Feb 4, 2009 6:37 PM CST reply actions  

Seriously though, put yourself in his shoes.

He signs a huge contract extension to finish his career in KC and then Herm starts a rebuilding project… and that’s how Tony is gonna end his career. Is that how you want to finish your hall of fame career? On a team that is rebuilding? By the time we have a good team Tony won’t be able to help us anymore. He just wants to go somewhere that he is needed, which is not here since our team sucks.

by Vince D on Feb 4, 2009 6:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah

and he goes on record in support of Herm and Thigpen and doesn’t have the decency to speak to Pioli about his status before he blasts this crap off at some yahoo sports writer. There’s nothing wrong with wanting out. I don’t take issue with that. He should conduct himself properly and shut his mouth. It’s this bitch behavior that I find inexcusable.

by Buck'O on Feb 4, 2009 6:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Everyone on this board respects Tony

Not so for a certain Larry Jo… we should never say his name again.

You have just received the Amish Virus. Since we do not have electricity or computers, you are on the honor system. Please delete all of your files.

Thank thee

by JChief on Feb 4, 2009 7:01 PM CST reply actions  

Yeah...

I feel embarrased I ever bought his jersey

by black mamba on Feb 4, 2009 7:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Thats a little far

he’s no where NEAR that one guy who kicked

But yea, you do feel stupid for buying his jersey ;)

by KansasCityShuffle on Feb 4, 2009 7:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Begs a good question

Most hated Chief of All-Time?

LJ?

Lin Elliott?

Elvis Grbac?

Bam Morris?

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Feb 4, 2009 7:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Whoaaaa
  1. on that list is The Kicker Who Shall Not Be Named.

by Joel Thorman on Feb 4, 2009 8:02 PM CST up reply actions  

I tend to see this set of comments from Tony as what he really feels

I’ve got no clue as to yesterdays comments and really they caught me by surprise. I think this site and others are actually bigger than we give them credit for in the public eye; and a friend of Tony’s, if not his wife, read these things and he found out about fan sentiment.
At some point everyone on here is going to have to come to the realization that this site is more than just our little community, and that the public is indeed checking in and seeing what is going on. No other site seems to keep up with the tons of information that each contributor on here brings to the table each and every day. Whether your a new Chief fan or old Chief fan, this has become the clearing house for all information concerning Chiefs. We all bring the old in as well as the new and each person on here is a valued member of the community. I refer to it as my home away from home. Thanks to Chirs and Primetime, they have brought us all together here for one cause and one cause only and that is to share and promote our favorite football cause: The ongoing promotion of the Kansas City Chiefs as the number 1 Professional Football team that one could be a fan of and most importantly be proud of.
That is why it pains me and actually makes me sad to hear the things from LJ that we have been hearing as of late. This man obviously doesn’t have a humble bone in his body and is unappreciative of what God has provided him. And lest not forget about the fans, that buy the tickets, the merchandise and the products from the TV commercials that help provide the revenue that pays his salary. So often, I deal with people that lose everything they have to a fire, yet they find a way to carry on with life. I guess LJ would just fall back on Jay-Z if he lost everything that he owns. Lack of humbleness leads to selfishness and these men have what many young boys dream of and thats the chance to play on a national stage as one of Americas best football players. Like him or not, LJ could learn a thing or two from Bobby Sippio, who showed up for work everyday, worked hard and did what was asked of him. I never heard him complain or throw any fits, he was humble for his short opportunity and left everything he had on the field.

We need a future defensive leader, his name is James Laurinaitis and he can be selected in round 1 of the upcoming Draft.

Ok already, if you don't agree with what I am saying, just don't email my mom again. She beat the crap out of me with my keyboard!

"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"

by Lanier63 on Feb 4, 2009 7:49 PM CST reply actions  

I see your point Lanier, but I'm not about to go easy on either of these guys

I agree that this blog and others like it are where people go to get the latest on a given subject. I agree that our little community here at AP has probably influenced mainstream media stories on the Chiefs and perhaps even the opinions of some of the players, coaches and administrative personnel. It’s the closest they can get to being a fly on the wall to find out what the general public really thinks about them. Voyeurism is a curious part of human nature and it’s all the better under the cover of anonymity. That’s why these these forums work. You don’t know me anymore than I know you. We get to contribute under alias names. It’s that anonymity that allows us to be so brutally honest in expressing our opinions. That’s how we are able to generate the content that is so alluring to so many readers. It’s honest, and we don’t have to make excuses for inaccuracies.

I hope that people like Tony G., or his wife or his friends do read the opinions expressed on this site, but they should be prepared for it. I expressed some harsh opinions earlier in this post and I meant it. You expressed your opinions and related them to what you see in every day life and I respect that. It makes sense to guys like you and me.

You have to consider that they live in a bubble of celebrity. You relate to the guys like Scippio and so do I. You see the folks who lose everything to a fire yet they carry on and make the most out of life. I get that, but I often wonder if our multi-million dollar heros do. When they go mouthing off to the press, it shows quite plainly that they don’t have a clue.

I want to relate a little of what I know of ordinary life to this situation. I’m a principal owner of a business. I have over 100 clients from San Diego to Las Vegas. I work seven days a week and I respond to crisis 24 hours a day. Some of our clients are big and some of them are small, but I have contracts with each and every one of them. That means that I have over a hundred bosses. Not only does my livelihood require that I abide by the terms of my contracts, but my conduct as well as the conduct of my employees has to be appropriate or I’m out on my ass. Period. End of story.

Now let’s take TG and LJ. They have one contract with one employer. Both of these guys make more money individually than my entire business does each year. Neither of them has the responsibility of providing jobs for people who’s families depend on them to put a roof over their heads and food on the table. TG has his family, but LJ doesn’t have responsibility for anyone but himself. These guys have it great. They make millions of dollars to play a game. They’re idolized by thousands of people and it makes me sick to watch them bitching and moaning publicly about how frustrated they are… how they want out.

I hope they do read this blog. I hope it’s the fan sentiment expressed on this site that made TG back-peddle, because he’s acting like an ass. Do these guys realize how many little kids look up to them? Do they give a damn that getting paid big money and whining about how frustrated they are sends a fucked up message? I’m not going to take it easy on a guy who gave his all for awhile and decided it was ok to pop off for the world to hear what an ingrate he’s become. That’s not class and it’s sure as hell not justifiable. In my opinion, it negates all of the good they’ve ever done. There’s no anonymity for them to hide behind. They chose this life so they get to live with it, good or bad. In your world and in mine, we don’t have the option to throw tantrums. So why the hell should they?

by Buck'O on Feb 4, 2009 11:34 PM CST up reply actions  

nice post

Chan Gailey is the only guy with the balls to draft Tebow as a HB/TE/2nd QB and actually USE him that way -- alongside a pure passer to help bring on the future of the NFL. It sounds absurd but I swear if you saw my chalkboard....

REMEMBER: On average, a professional team should win the championship about 1 time in 30 years. So how demanding should we be of our college head coaches?

by nayjevin on Feb 5, 2009 7:39 AM CST up reply actions  

Very good points, thanks!

We need a future defensive leader, his name is James Laurinaitis and he can be selected in round 1 of the upcoming Draft.

Ok already, if you don't agree with what I am saying, just don't email my mom again. She beat the crap out of me with my keyboard!

"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"

by Lanier63 on Feb 5, 2009 8:35 AM CST up reply actions  

Nice read 63...

Sippio? Couldn’t you have use Mike Cox or Connor Barth instead to make you point?

Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.

by aPacificChief on Feb 5, 2009 12:26 PM CST up reply actions  

As much as like those guys also, it wouldn't have been the same

I think it’s the blue collar type in me that appreciates those types :)

We need a future defensive leader, his name is James Laurinaitis and he can be selected in round 1 of the upcoming Draft.

Ok already, if you don't agree with what I am saying, just don't email my mom again. She beat the crap out of me with my keyboard!

"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"

by Lanier63 on Feb 5, 2009 2:29 PM CST up reply actions  

If I were GM

In all honesty I would trade him because its good business.

by FrankPitts on Feb 4, 2009 8:12 PM CST reply actions  

LJ owes evrything he has

to KC, and us fans. He could have been drafted by Detroit, or any other perennial loser. He never would have got the big contract, and would have been a bust like any other Penn State runningback that goes to the NFL, a bust. TG has earned his money, and is a warrior on the field. He needs to stay, it will get better, Harmageddon is over at Arrowhead.

Welcome to KC Scott Pioli, home of the most rabid football fans in the NFL!

by Eric Allen on Feb 4, 2009 8:56 PM CST reply actions  

See past the BS~

What I see is what Tony G sees. In other words, He just wants to COMPETE, He wants to WIN, He wants nothing but the best for the CHIEFS! I see that too, and I hope we dont go into next year still rebuilding! What he sees is the Chiefs under the cap BIG TIME, and he thinks just like I do as a fan, that we need to add a FEW FA’s, on both sides of the ball!
Get a Coach that KNOWS how to attack and ADJUST and is YOUNG AND READY ( HALEY ), and DRAFT even better than last year!

IF THESE THINGS HAPPEN, TONY G, like us chiefs fans, WILL BE HAPPY and READY TO ROLL THIS SEASON! REBUILDING?? NO MORE SIR, NO MORE!

( red til the day i die and even after )

by Kansan_Chief on Feb 4, 2009 9:31 PM CST reply actions  

The BS is inexcusable

if he had all the class people say he has, he wouldn’t be spouting to the press in such a way that he had to back-peddle.

The organization is making changes. If he’s not on board, he should shut up and quietly work on a trade to go somewhere that makes him happy. Not bitch about how frustrated he is. There’s no such thing as championship entitlement.

by Buck'O on Feb 4, 2009 11:39 PM CST up reply actions  

i hear that too

Chan Gailey is the only guy with the balls to draft Tebow as a HB/TE/2nd QB and actually USE him that way -- alongside a pure passer to help bring on the future of the NFL. It sounds absurd but I swear if you saw my chalkboard....

REMEMBER: On average, a professional team should win the championship about 1 time in 30 years. So how demanding should we be of our college head coaches?

by nayjevin on Feb 5, 2009 7:40 AM CST up reply actions  

Just Shut Up!!

All you rumor spreaders just stop making noise.

by Aejfan on Feb 4, 2009 9:40 PM CST reply actions  

exactly who is spreading rumors?

Dont be afraid to call out names, but be prepared to back it up with facts. :)

We need a future defensive leader, his name is James Laurinaitis and he can be selected in round 1 of the upcoming Draft.

Ok already, if you don't agree with what I am saying, just don't email my mom again. She beat the crap out of me with my keyboard!

"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"

by Lanier63 on Feb 5, 2009 8:37 AM CST up reply actions  

LJ

He owes KC jack and they owe him the same. Especially the fans. It is a business.

by FrankPitts on Feb 4, 2009 9:50 PM CST reply actions  

public reading

Lanier,

     I agree totally with your post above, a lot of the public reads this, much more so than actually posts. I read this site for months before I started to write once in a while, so I believe many, many others are doing the same thing. I usually don’t have a lot to say that hasn’t already been covered on here, so don’t post too often. You guys really cover a topic well, and it is entertaining to read!

By the way, Neil Smith can suck the corn from my crap for going to denver!!!!!!

by dr. kill 4 on Feb 5, 2009 12:11 PM CST reply actions  

Welcome to the site, if we failed to do so before :)

We need a future defensive leader, his name is James Laurinaitis and he can be selected in round 1 of the upcoming Draft.

Ok already, if you don't agree with what I am saying, just don't email my mom again. She beat the crap out of me with my keyboard!

"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"

by Lanier63 on Feb 5, 2009 12:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Yep

There are thousands more lurkers than commenters.

by Joel Thorman on Feb 5, 2009 2:48 PM CST up reply actions  

I was once a lurker...

my neighbor called the cops on me

We need a future defensive leader, his name is James Laurinaitis and he can be selected in round 1 of the upcoming Draft.

Ok already, if you don't agree with what I am saying, just don't email my mom again. She beat the crap out of me with my keyboard!

"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"

by Lanier63 on Feb 5, 2009 2:58 PM CST up reply actions  

giggity giggity

Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."

"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.

by THE_TRUTH on Feb 5, 2009 3:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Where were you when the Ass Clown post came out?

we had no pictures to describe an ass clown, ass hat and ass something or other

We need a future defensive leader, his name is James Laurinaitis and he can be selected in round 1 of the upcoming Draft.

Ok already, if you don't agree with what I am saying, just don't email my mom again. She beat the crap out of me with my keyboard!

"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"

by Lanier63 on Feb 5, 2009 3:16 PM CST up reply actions  

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