Johnson’s venom was vaguely directed at the "organization," but not at the players or the coaches. He complained that, when Dick Vermeil was head coach, the team tried to trade him to Tampa.
Click over and read more from LJ's interview on 610 this morning. It's completely and utterly ridiculous. He said he wants to play for the Cowboys or an East Coast team.
Click here to listen to the interview.
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The guy's out of this world
I’ve been on the fence about trading him and taking the slight cap hit vs. keeping him around and running him into the ground.
After reading this….this trade/release/whatever can’t happen soon enough!
God Damn
School internet. I almost beat you on this in the fanshots, if my internet wouldn’t have fritzed out..
by ryan_andersen98 on Feb 4, 2009 11:17 AM CST up reply actions
Haha
Just saw yours.
I was in the middle of transcribing parts of the interview until I saw PFT just posted a good portion of it.
by Joel Thorman on Feb 4, 2009 11:19 AM CST up reply actions
Also
God, please let us get rid of this asshat. Seriously, I wish somebody paid me millions of dollars to be a big fat baby.
by ryan_andersen98 on Feb 4, 2009 11:21 AM CST up reply actions
I Second That
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
Neither will Mike Shanahan.
If he were a woman ...
He’d punch himself in the mouth, spit a drink in his own face, and threaten his boyfriend.
That's misogynistic right there....
ironic
by Dustin SLO,CA on Feb 4, 2009 3:11 PM CST up reply actions
More Self-Hating, Actually
Misogynism is usually directed outward at other people. :)
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
Neither will Mike Shanahan.
is JacinB a woman?
Or are you trying to refer to LJ or yourself? I’m confused…
by Dustin SLO,CA on Feb 4, 2009 3:22 PM CST up reply actions
Don't Think So
He was just saying that LJ dislikes women so much that if he was one he’d probably kick his own ass at the clubs. :)
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
Neither will Mike Shanahan.
No, got that.
I was just being a smart-ass in saying:
since KCS said LJ’s a bitch
then JB turned that immediately into a synonym of woman.
Bitch = Woman = the misogyny
Since he was bashing LJ for his misogynistic behavior by making a misogynistic comment, that’s were the irony lies.
by Dustin SLO,CA on Feb 4, 2009 3:30 PM CST up reply actions
Ah
Yes, I suppose it is.
Although not necessarily…he could have been referring to Johnson in the prison sense of the word, in which case it wouldn’t be a female reference at all. :)
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
Neither will Mike Shanahan.
Or More Precisely
Using “bitch” in a prison sense dilutes the feminine inference so much that the directly misogynistic aspects are minimized or lost. Like someone using the term “”http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_thumb" target="new">rule of thumb" even if they’re aware of that phrase’s alleged (although untrue) ties to wife-beating.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
Neither will Mike Shanahan.
Correction
Like someone using the term rule of thumb, even if they’re aware of that phrase’s alleged (although untrue) ties to wife-beating.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
Neither will Mike Shanahan.
That's why I would have accepted that reasoning.
That would be an official, “well played, sir”
by Dustin SLO,CA on Feb 4, 2009 5:56 PM CST up reply actions
I WOULD buy that
If it wasn’t for that “woman” part. I would buy “bride” or “girl” or even “receiver/catcher.” So my logic still stands
: )
by Dustin SLO,CA on Feb 4, 2009 3:40 PM CST up reply actions
Cleverly Stated, Sir
+1 :)
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
Neither will Mike Shanahan.
Can we take this series of comments...
and apply it to a handbook on taking jokes and sucking every bit of humor out of them?
by mynameistyler on Feb 5, 2009 6:24 AM CST up reply actions
Either way
this D-Bag has got to go. Trade him to Detroit though. Take anything in return. Its too bad there’s not a team in Utah. He would love that.
What A Coincidence
He wants out and a lot of Chiefs fans want him out.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
Neither will Mike Shanahan.
Well
There goes my argument…
Screw it, LJ and TOny for Cassel..
The Day Herm Edwards didn't get his team ready to beat the Raiders at Arrowhead is the day he kissed his job goodbye.
So long, farewell, auf Wiedersehn GOODBYYYEE!
Well I said this a long long time ago
….in a galaxy right here in KC when a lot of people were crying about the salary cap. Well, there ya go…salary cap or not.
If he’s smart (and I doubt that very much), he should beg to talk to Pioli, renegotiate his contract so we don’t take a big hit on the cap and it’ll help his case for a trade.
Tony G. can go with him. There’s plenty of ex-Chiefs players that were proud to wear the red and gold and these two yahoo’s aren’t even in the same league in regards to being men that honored the Chiefs uniform and fans. What a bunch of millionaire whiners.
I blame Vermiel and Edwards for not putting “foot in butt” on both of these guys. Vermiel tried and let up. I PRAY we get a HC that has the guts and personality to bench both of them (if we don’t trade them) until they learn to keep their stupid comments to themselves. With as young a squad as we have, this will not bode well for thier attitudes if they see “veterans” acting this way.
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
yeah, cause God knows TG didn't suck it up
last year and perform…or cajole other teammates into doing things like actually watching extra film…
oops
The only measure of true success in the NFL is the Vince Lombardi trophy. Anything less is a rationalization.
And that makes it OK?
I could give a rats butt what he did. If someone is a great employee and bad mouths the organization at your workplace, how long do you think they’ll be around?
He can be the second coming of and it doesn’t make a difference to me. The attitude of “it’s ok, cause he makes us better”, is just a bunch of BS. He doesn’t make our team better when he runs his mouth like this because it makes a bad impression on the rookies and they’ll start copping the same attitude and than you have….the Raiders.
Yeah, he’s watching film and staying over and after commetns like that it’s because it’s all about him not what his legal binding contract stipulates.
Yeah, “it’s a misunderstanding”…is he going to use that line again like he did a few months ago?
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
yeah, we've got rookies popping off all the time
or not
our problem is that we don’t have enough rookies following his example of extra work.
Like his comment or not, no one questions his effort. THAT is a pro. And that’s what you need to win.
The only measure of true success in the NFL is the Vince Lombardi trophy. Anything less is a rationalization.
We'll see those rookies in a couple of years
…when they start saying “Hey, TG and LJ spoke their mind, so will I”
When you poison the water, it takes a while for the venom to spread.
We’re not bashing his work ethic, we’re bashing his millionaire whining antics when people are scrimping and scrounging to be able to afford season tickets to take their families to games. Those same families that if it were not for them, he’d be stocking shelves playing in a sandlot on weekends. How disrespectful of those that buy his jersies and pay to watch him play.
Some will defend him as though WE as fans and an organization owe him something. When has this team become more about an individual than being a reputable franchise with fans who for the most part are very respectful of our Chiefs heritage? When have we become so complacent that one players playmaking on the field gives them carte blanche to disrespect the fans, the owners and his teammates (in that order)?
If I was a teammate, I wouldn’t want him around. He’s basically said, he doesn’t think the team is good enough to be SB winners. He’s saying that his teammates don’t have the ability and wants to go to a contender. Read between the lines, if you don’t want to be around a group of people because of your own personal desires for a ring, than you are indicating they don’t have the ability to produce.
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
sure, its a slam dunk that will all happen
or not
The only measure of true success in the NFL is the Vince Lombardi trophy. Anything less is a rationalization.
or will
course, LJ and TG could go to Dallas with the same type of attitude and we know how great they’re turing out
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
at best you're HOPING for that result
to satisfy the conclusion you’ve arrived at
The only measure of true success in the NFL is the Vince Lombardi trophy. Anything less is a rationalization.
No I'm not hoping
I just am not blind in seeing that because someone is a “superstar” he deserves any more freedom or respect than someone working hard to support their families.
Some people view these “athletes” as some sort of “can-do-no-wrong” demi-gods. You can defend him all you want, but it’s funny how less than 24hrs. later he’s backpeddling from all the negative publicity after opening his mouth.
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
By the way, Truth
Welcome back. Noticed you were MIA for a while.
by Joel Thorman on Feb 4, 2009 11:46 AM CST up reply actions
yeah, we've had no truth around here!
We need a future defensive leader, his name is James Laurinaitis and he can be selected in round 1 of the upcoming Draft.
Ok already, if you don't agree with what I am saying, just don't email my mom again. She beat the crap out of me with my keyboard!
"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
LOL...thanks guys
Actually, with all the soap opera scenarios going on with our team I was taking a break. The Arrowgate fiasco made my head hurt. I was going to wait until we definitely had a new HC, but with all the badmouthing by a couple of our current veterans…I had enough.
Speaking of….can anyone recall this much bashing of the organization by veterans in the last 5-10 years?
What’s going on with these players nowadays? You never would have seen Marino, Payton, Lenny, Bell, Lanier, Smith, Thomas, etc. go to the media and bash their franchise. They made much less money, yet they didn’t step over the line to the media. There was pride back then representing the team colors and the fans and I think that it’s not about that anymore, it’s about individuals.
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
Actually
That’s b.s….old players bitched just as much about contracts and bad teams as new ones do. You’re just getting old, Truth. :)
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
Neither will Mike Shanahan.
haha
Well, I guess it’s human nature to complain about money, isn’t it? But, when you complain about the employer, you becaome persona non grata. In our capitalistic society money is an acceptable argument to a degree…complaining about the organization that gives you what you wanted in the first place makes you a whiner.
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
On That...
complaining about the organization that gives you what you wanted in the first place makes you a whiner.
…we completely agree. :)
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
Neither will Mike Shanahan.
Well I've been bitching about our royalties from this site
for two years now and Chris ain’t listening! I still think he’s giving them to the gals who participate on here. Again, just like ladies nights at the local bar, I am taken advantage of again not for my mind, but for my lack of body… :(
We need a future defensive leader, his name is James Laurinaitis and he can be selected in round 1 of the upcoming Draft.
Ok already, if you don't agree with what I am saying, just don't email my mom again. She beat the crap out of me with my keyboard!
"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
I agree with Truth, can you honestly tell me that being a BFF
and “players” coach hasn’t caused some of this crap?
Buh bye LJ and TOny
by oldchiefsfan on Feb 4, 2009 12:09 PM CST up reply actions
It's Not Really Different From What They've Already Seen
Whitlock was pointing out a couple of years ago about the sense of entitlement that pervaded the Chiefs…from the front office right down to the players.
Looks like dumping Peterson hasn’t entirely flushed that attitude out of the team.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
Neither will Mike Shanahan.
I totally agree.
If they don’t get traded then bench their asses. Both are proud players that need to be humbled.
Meh.
This situation has turned horrible. The public has been on LJ’s back from the first time he stepped on the field after Priest went down, and now the situation has blown up on both sides. LJ is acting like an ass, and his off the field situation is terrible. But I don’t blame him for wanting out at all.
I say lets give him what we want
Trade him to Oakland or Cleveland for conditional picks.
The I thought , what about him “buying out” the remainder of his contract?
We need a future defensive leader, his name is James Laurinaitis and he can be selected in round 1 of the upcoming Draft.
Ok already, if you don't agree with what I am saying, just don't email my mom again. She beat the crap out of me with my keyboard!
"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
L.J. believes the organization hasn't backed him, and it's ruined his public image.
Say it aint so LJ?
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&hl=138787&id=1315
We need a future defensive leader, his name is James Laurinaitis and he can be selected in round 1 of the upcoming Draft.
Ok already, if you don't agree with what I am saying, just don't email my mom again. She beat the crap out of me with my keyboard!
"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
I guess
28million reasons don’t matter. I guess people chanting your name in the stadium when you take over for a pro-bowler didnt’ matter.
I guess his actions haven’t had any effect on his image.
I guess he thinks he is special?
The Day Herm Edwards didn't get his team ready to beat the Raiders at Arrowhead is the day he kissed his job goodbye.
So long, farewell, auf Wiedersehn GOODBYYYEE!
Don't let the door hit you in the a** on the way out!
Good ridance.
"If you go out and you’re looking for the girl to wink at you and she hasn’t winked at you before 12 she isn’t going to. You might as well go home."-Herm
I gotta say though
at least LJ is being straight up. I feel like TG is just feeding us bullshit to save (some) face. I love Tony, but WOW. He’s pretty much saying if (as fans) we all want our team to go to the SB we should back a new team.
I Don't Think LJ Is Being Straight Up At All
He’s rationalizing away all of his problems and claiming that the Chiefs are responsible for all of it. I think it’s pretty clear from his most recent remarks that he was lying through his teeth when he said that the problems in KC were “partly” his. He thinks that it’s all the franchise’s fault that he’s not being worshipped here. Doesn’t seem to register with him that the fans are sick of him because he’s a whining, wannabe thug who bullies women and often half-asses his job for a superstar wage before blaming everyone else for the problems he creates.
Tony’s being a whiner too, but I think he’s being a lot more straightforward than LJ. He never said he wasn’t going to request a trade in the offseason…he just said he’d do his best during the season after his midseason trade request fell through and that he wasn’t going to cause problems. And he didn’t. He was a pro during the season, just like he said he’d be.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
Neither will Mike Shanahan.
They can both piss off in my opinion.
Shut your mouth and talk to your boss. Handle your business, because frankly, I have no compassion for millionaire crybabies because no one likes them, or they want to win. Well boo-freakin’ hoo. Maybe TOny should learn how to be a QB so his position can actually help a team WIN. LJ has at least thrown a TD pass in his career. I don’t give a damn if he’s the best TE to play the game, because at the end of the day, you’re still A GD TIGHT END. So they can both piss off.
The Day Herm Edwards didn't get his team ready to beat the Raiders at Arrowhead is the day he kissed his job goodbye.
So long, farewell, auf Wiedersehn GOODBYYYEE!
You again : )
No. All that just means LJ is i little off of his rocker. I think he’s delusional and slightly schizo…
Tony is also being a professional politician.
by Dustin SLO,CA on Feb 4, 2009 12:52 PM CST up reply actions
A Little Off Your Rocker
Is when you legally change your name to Ocho Cinco.
Being a piece of shit is when you create constant problems for your team off the field and by whining about how they don’t respect you just two years after they hand you a superstar contract. I honestly can’t wait until Larry Johnson’s career is over and he finds out exactly how much the celebrity crowd he runs with is going to care about him once he’s not scoring touchdowns and getting yards. He won’t be “LJ” anymore…he’ll just be “Larry, the broke woman-beating jackass whose phone calls don’t get returned”.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
Neither will Mike Shanahan.
Do you even have the gene for optimism?
I just listened to the interview and he hasn’t said ONE thing that is not justifiable. Or not completely honest. And I went into it very cynical, or as I like to call it “Crawford.”
By the way, when did Larry Johnson do his “woman-beating”?
by Dustin SLO,CA on Feb 4, 2009 2:02 PM CST up reply actions
Allegedly
twice this year. January and August/October?
The Day Herm Edwards didn't get his team ready to beat the Raiders at Arrowhead is the day he kissed his job goodbye.
So long, farewell, auf Wiedersehn GOODBYYYEE!
The fourth "altercation" was in September
Johnson has been involved in at least three other incidents during his six-year NFL career; the bye week incident is his fourth — not third, as reported — and second of 2008. Each incident involved one or more of three common denominators: a female accuser, alcohol and a nightclub. In the case of the past three, it’s been all of the above.
So...
Larry Johnson was arrest for battery???? NO. Simple Assault. By the way my friend was arrested for battery a year ago because he shut the door on a cab driver who was trying to get out to fight him, then run him over. (because my friend wanted to pay by credit and not cash). The driver dropped the charges and never showed.
by Dustin SLO,CA on Feb 4, 2009 2:10 PM CST up reply actions
Gosh
Well then that makes it all better if it was just simple assault…the bitch probably had it coming.
/sarcasm
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
Neither will Mike Shanahan.
No
I’m saying, If your gonna talk shit, at least say something true.
by Dustin SLO,CA on Feb 4, 2009 2:26 PM CST up reply actions
Here's True
He’s in constant physical altercations with women and where there’s constant smoke there’s usually fire. And frankly, since I’m not a juror in his trial I don’t actually have to give him the benefit of the doubt. I’m perfectly entitled to call him an asshole and write him off.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
Neither will Mike Shanahan.
Well wait a minute
Your not the only one who is entitled to call him an asshole and write him off.
LJ,
Your an asshole and I am writing you off!
Lanier63
Now were even :)
We need a future defensive leader, his name is James Laurinaitis and he can be selected in round 1 of the upcoming Draft.
Ok already, if you don't agree with what I am saying, just don't email my mom again. She beat the crap out of me with my keyboard!
"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
Ah, So It's A Race?
Well then, I was writing Larry Johnson off way before you were…I was at the bar when Larry Johnson Sr. met Mrs. Larry Johnson and I said to myself “Their kid is going to grow up to be a tremendous asshole, so I’m writing him off now.”
True story. :)
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
Neither will Mike Shanahan.
I just cannot stand it when I can't compete
We need a future defensive leader, his name is James Laurinaitis and he can be selected in round 1 of the upcoming Draft.
Ok already, if you don't agree with what I am saying, just don't email my mom again. She beat the crap out of me with my keyboard!
"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
Here's the facts:
In 2003, he was arrested for felony aggravated assault and misdemeanor domestic battery for waving a gun during an argument at his home with an ex-girlfriend. The charges were dropped when Johnson agreed to participate in a domestic violence diversion program. In 2005, he was again arrested for assault when a woman accused Johnson of pushing her to the ground.
His third arrest for assault came on February 24, 2008, after allegedly pushing a woman’s head at a nightclub. On October 10, 2008, Johnson was arrested for the fourth time and charged with one count of non-aggravated assault for allegedly spitting a drink in a woman’s face at a Kansas City nightclub. The woman involved, Ashley Stewart, has since filed a civil suit against Johnson, accusing him of negligence, assault and battery, intentional infliction of emotional distress and negligent infliction of emotional distress.
Well
Do you even have the gene for optimism
Not for Larry Johnson. He’s never produced at a high enough level to offset his bullshit and frankly I’m not interested in giving him another chance. He’s had plenty and he always finds a way to fuck them up…screw that guy. Let some other team deal with him so we can have a guy who’s more interested in winning than in being Jay-Z’s buddy.
Like I said, I don’t fault the guy for getting a big contract, but I do fault him for becoming even more of a team cancer and off-field distraction after he got it. He got paid a lot of money by the Chiefs to help build a winner (even if Peterson’s plan was a mess)…as far as I’m concerned that officially negates the need to feel any pity for him. I don’t care how “justifiable” he might have sounded in the interview, his behavior has been anything except justifiable.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
Neither will Mike Shanahan.
I agree
But without having facts other than the police report filed days later, I’m not going to pass judgement. But, I will say he’s an idiot for continually putting himself in situations to cause himself trouble/drama. I’m done with him, don’t care if he stays or goes.
The Day Herm Edwards didn't get his team ready to beat the Raiders at Arrowhead is the day he kissed his job goodbye.
So long, farewell, auf Wiedersehn GOODBYYYEE!
I'd Agree With Not Passing Judgment If It Was Just One Incident
But he’s had a lot more than one…plenty of justification for the court of public opinion to render a verdict as far as I’m concerned.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
Neither will Mike Shanahan.
Maybe
but has he ever been found guilty or had to pay anyone off (legally). I’ll be the first to admit that trouble follows people who make it, but I also know gold diggers know faces and dollars, and how to try and get them.
The Day Herm Edwards didn't get his team ready to beat the Raiders at Arrowhead is the day he kissed his job goodbye.
So long, farewell, auf Wiedersehn GOODBYYYEE!
See Old Chief's Comment Above
Four incidents involving violence or threats of violence against women.
One time, I can see the golddigger defense…but not four.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
Neither will Mike Shanahan.
"Wannabe thug" being the key term
Must have been rough growing up on the mean streets of Happy Valley, where only the strong survive.
Regarding Johnson's Trade Wishes
I’d love to see him end up with the Cowboys. The universe might just implode from all those prima donna idiots lumped in one place. Heck, I’d love to see the Chiefs trade Johnson away for Felix Jones straight up (like that would ever happen). :)
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
Neither will Mike Shanahan.
I'd still do a conditional only trade
1) Playing time or # of touches
2) If he leads the Conference in rushing
3) If he leads the Conference in TD’s scored (notice no distinction between running or passing)
4) Playoffs(eg. whether or not the team made the playoffs, how far they went into the playoffs…)
We need a future defensive leader, his name is James Laurinaitis and he can be selected in round 1 of the upcoming Draft.
Ok already, if you don't agree with what I am saying, just don't email my mom again. She beat the crap out of me with my keyboard!
"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
and
5) how long he is able to go without getting arrested
We need a future defensive leader, his name is James Laurinaitis and he can be selected in round 1 of the upcoming Draft.
Ok already, if you don't agree with what I am saying, just don't email my mom again. She beat the crap out of me with my keyboard!
"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
And Every Time He Opens His Mouth
That price probably drops.
The Red Zone had a pretty good article today about how the new coach already has his first major challenge ready for him…getting control of his team and either getting the veterans to step back into line or putting them on notice. The Star’s writer wasn’t all that sympathetic to Johnson or Tony either.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
Neither will Mike Shanahan.
It sounds to me like
He’s playing video games while doing the interview…
The Day Herm Edwards didn't get his team ready to beat the Raiders at Arrowhead is the day he kissed his job goodbye.
So long, farewell, auf Wiedersehn GOODBYYYEE!
What I meant was that HE thought that, not you guys
I think the Chiefs are hacking in to AP, some strange stuff happening.
If we traded him 2 years ago when he held out the first time.....
what would we have missed out on? Two years of sub-par play and childish behavior. I would say hindsight is 20/20 but I wanted to trade him 2 yrs ago.
Scuse me guys, but fuck lj!
Would he even be known as a top flight rb had he gone somewhere else? He came into a good offensive system, with a top flight line, I wish Detroit would have got him! Fuck you lj, do not let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya!
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