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A Patriots Fan Weighs In

It’s obvious that we have several schools-of-thought here at AP on what the Chiefs should do to fill our numerous gaping roster holes and we’ve seen all sorts of creative rationalizations to support those views.  Admittedly, I have mixed emotions about many of them.  One day I’ll feel strongly in favor of a certain argument and then the next day…  not so much.  

We should go with Michael Crabtree because he’s the best player available.  We should take Stafford because he’s the best draft prospect for a franchise QB.  Swing a deal with New England for Matt Cassel because we know what he can do.  The arguments go on and on.  I’m just as confused as anyone when it comes to what the Chiefs will do with any of these decisions, so I went outside of our community for some perspective that I’d like to share with all of you.

Star-divide

I have a guy working for me who grew up in Boston. He moved out here last year and we’ve had some pretty interesting conversations about the Chiefs.  He’s a complete Patriot’s fanatic and he stays up on all things as they relate to “his boys.” He’s a little bitter because we took out “Tommy Boy” in week 1 and then landed Scott Pioli as our GM.  

By no means am I siting him as any kind of an authoritative source, but he’s been living with the Belichick/Pioli regime since day one and he knows what it’s all about.  He has a perspective that might help us all deal with this new and uncomfortable silence emanating from One Arrowhead Drive.

This morning we got into a long, drawn out conversation about free agency and the upcoming draft and I started to tell him about some of the various things that folks here at AP think the Chiefs should do.  I got him interested enough to read through some of our posts to see what he thought.  Of course it should come as no surprise to any of us that he laughed his ass off.  His commentary went something like this; “Dude, you should tell everyone on this board that you have Scott Fucking Pioli. You will not draft a quarterback and you will not draft a wide receiver with the 3rd overall pick.  If there’s even a chance of trading that pick for more picks, you can bank on it.”  He sited the post about the trade scenario with the Eagles to move out of the #3 pick for additional picks as exactly the kind of thing we can expect.  He said that if there is even a small chance, then Pioli will do everything possible to find a way to make this sort of thing happen. 

What amused him the most was how so many of us spend so much effort lobbying for our for our favorite draft pick, free agent or head coaching candidate.  He admitted that we have a great community, but at least a half dozen times he shouted “forget about it!”   as he picked through our meanderings.  He promised that this time next year, none of us would be wasting so much energy on speculation because we’ll understand exactly how futile it is.  He guaranteed that more often than not, Pioli will do something that nobody expects.  His advice to all of us is “Get used to it!” with a parting shot of “Welcome to my world.”

I’m not saying he’s right or wrong, but I see little evidence so far that would cause me to disregard what he’s saying.  One player does not equal another and choosing one because another had similar stats isn’t going to get us any closer to getting inside of Pioli’s head.  I say we take our friend’s advice patiently expect a deliberate evolution toward an overall team concept rather than getting ourselves emotionally hung up on our favorite prospects.  “Pioli,” he says, “will not reach for the stars on any player.   Get used to it.”

 

I posted most of this in a few places earlier today because I felt it was relevant, so if you’ve already read it, sorry for the redundancy.   Hat’s off to Chiefs_swagger for suggesting that I make a FanPost out of it so more people would see it and weigh in. 

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Arrowhead Pride's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Arrowhead Pride writers or editors.

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haha sweet!!

That was my post I’m glad someone appreciated it I got casted out like a witch for posting that. I absolutely adore Scott Pioli’s way of approaching the draft and have been praying the Chiefs could approach the draft the way he does for years. He never slobbers over the flashy guys rather he pursues the “right guy” I’m excited for the upcoming season I say we win at least 6-8 games and that’s good especially in our division haha

by 808NaNz808 on Feb 3, 2009 1:42 AM CST reply actions  

it was a good post

made a helluva lot more sense to me than some of the other stuff floating around. it was good to see someone from the outside agree with it too

by Buck'O on Feb 3, 2009 5:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Mostly true

It’s mostly true that Pioli doesn’t go after big names. But he will on occasion. Randy Moss was a Pioli pickup. Corey Dillon was well known when he was picked up. Maybe linebackers don’t count as big names but Rosevelt Colvin and Adalius Thomas were well known among football fans.

I think Pioli will add a couple of free agents who are at the Colvin/Thomas level of fame, and also a few others who will be lesser known. He’s got a ton of salary cap room and a ton of holes to fill, so free agents will be signed. Good ones, and young ones.

He likely won’t end up hiring a famous coach or trading for a famous quarterback, that much is true. I’m sure he’d love to trade down in the draft, but I don’t know if that will be possible. The Pats traded down a lot, but they never had the #3 pick to move.

by Offense of the 70s on Feb 3, 2009 6:43 AM CST reply actions  

Yet another yeah but...

He did get some of those guys, but did he pay top dollar for them? No. He has a knack for getting the value deal done. Moss took a pay cut to play there. Guys like Samuels are no longer on the team because they become too expensive. Frugal is the operative.

by Buck'O on Feb 3, 2009 9:19 AM CST up reply actions  

insider info i love it

thanks

Chan Gailey is the only guy with the balls to draft Tebow as a HB/TE/2nd QB and actually USE him that way -- alongside a pure passer to help bring on the future of the NFL. It sounds absurd but I swear if you saw my chalkboard....

REMEMBER: On average, a professional team should win the championship about 1 time in 30 years. So how demanding should we be of our college head coaches?

by nayjevin on Feb 3, 2009 6:48 AM CST reply actions  

He's a genius...=)

of course we’re going to trade down if possible…regardless of who the GM is, or what the situation is, a team that sucks badly enough to land a top 5 pick will almost always trade down if given the option…

by PVChiefsfan on Feb 3, 2009 7:20 AM CST reply actions  

Thanks Buck 'o

Very interesting. Something that I think a lot of us knew but needed a nice little reminder like this.

Jerod Mayo with the 10th pick last year, anyone? That was definitely a stretch at the time. Now he’s ROTY.

by Joel Thorman on Feb 3, 2009 7:31 AM CST reply actions  

Maybe to an extent
He promised that this time next year, none of us would be wasting so much energy on speculation because we’ll understand exactly how futile it is.

But then how am I supposed to get through the work day without all the speculation? :)

by Joel Thorman on Feb 3, 2009 8:16 AM CST reply actions  

what he said? :)

We need a future defensive leader, his name is James Laurinaitis and he can be selected in round 1 of the upcoming Draft.

Ok already, if you don't agree with what I am saying, just don't email my mom again. She beat the crap out of me with my keyboard!

"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"

by Lanier63 on Feb 3, 2009 8:57 AM CST up reply actions  

The reason

Pioli never had to pay top dollar for talent because they established a winning culture in New England where players would take paycuts to play for the team that had the best chance to make the SB. We’re far from that (in fact in Vegas we have the same odds as the Lions at winning next years SB) so I imagine the first few seasons we’re gonna have to start writing some serious checks in order to start contending

by KansasCityShuffle on Feb 3, 2009 9:42 AM CST reply actions  

Or a blowjob from the cheerleaders if they sign a free agent contract

by ksjhwk on Feb 3, 2009 1:08 PM CST reply actions  

Nice post, Buck'O

I agree with your friend about the way Pioli does business. If he sees a chance to trade out of the #3 spot and stock up on some draft picks, I think he’ll take it (although it might be a little difficult to trade out of there – not saying it’s impossible, though).

What are the Chiefs’ major needs? If it’s the lines (defensive and offensive), I predict he might start there, and the chances of Pioli drafting a bust in the first round for you guys are slim to none.

by NESilver on Feb 3, 2009 3:39 PM CST reply actions  

Haha! Thanks!

We pretty much need it all. I figure he’ll try to stockpile first and if/when that doesn’t work out, we’ll go for the value play on either line. Something that has the potential to last 10 or more years. I’m beginning to feel like that’s a minority opinion with all of the QB WR BPA talk going on, but I figure I’ll be entitled to a few “I told you so’s” when it’s all said and done.

by Buck'O on Feb 3, 2009 5:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Thats the good thing about AP

we accept all opinions, even minorities and female. :)

We need a future defensive leader, his name is James Laurinaitis and he can be selected in round 1 of the upcoming Draft.

Ok already, if you don't agree with what I am saying, just don't email my mom again. She beat the crap out of me with my keyboard!

"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"

by Lanier63 on Feb 3, 2009 5:28 PM CST up reply actions  

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