Chiefs Trade Second Round Pick for Cassel, Vrabel
by Joel Thorman on Feb 28, 2009 1:51 PM CST
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Thank you letter to the Patriots over at Pats Pulpit.
Quick hits on Cassel:
- 26 years old
- 7th round pick by the Patriots out of USC
- Never started a game at QB while at USC (1 start at tight end)
- 4 year veteran
- 327/516, 3,693 yards, 23 TDs, 13 INTs in 2008
- Career stats here
Quick hits on Vrabel
- 33 years old
- 3rd round draft pick by the Steelers in 1997
- Signed on with the Patriots in 2000
- All-Pro and Pro Bowl selection in 2007
- 3X Super Bowl champion
- Career stats here
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Piloi
"I have a long history with both players," said Kansas City Chiefs General Manager Scott Pioli. "Mike and Matt are men that I respect both personally and professionally. I look forward to having them as new members of the Chiefs family."
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
by ROC 27 on Feb 28, 2009 1:53 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
thats great
Unlike GMDM I refuse to trade my EL CD avatar until Jacobs proves his worth.
Holy Shit!!!...Peterson resigned...Am I dead?...Is This Heaven?
by RoyalsFanStuckInCardsLand on Feb 28, 2009 1:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Pioli smiles a lot more than I would think an evil genius would.
He clearly used the Jedi mind trick on BB. “Those aren’t the draft picks you’re looking for.”
by Rev. Slappy on Feb 28, 2009 2:01 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
lol
"and peep this ethiopian queen from philly taking classes abroad, she studying film and photo flash focus record"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm.
by DThomasReigns on Feb 28, 2009 2:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Jedi mind trick on BB? I don’t think so. This deal was good for both teams. The Chiefs get a darn good QB and an aging good linebacker. The Patriots free up 19 million in cap money and get an early second round pick. These are considered excellent value picks by the Patriots ( good quality players for less money and more years.) I wonder what the Patriots will do with all that cap space? Knowing the team as well as i do i would say re-sign some of their top vets. What a novel idea. It was a good deal for both teams.
by Patsfanb on Mar 1, 2009 12:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
NO Jedi mind trick
Jedi mind trick on BB? I don’t think so. This deal was good for both teams. The Chiefs get a darn good QB and an aging good linebacker. The Patriots free up 19 million in cap money and get an early second round pick. These are considered excellent value picks by the Patriots ( good quality players for less money and more years.) I wonder what the Patriots will do with all that cap space? Knowing the team as well as i do i would say re-sign some of their top vets. What a novel idea. It was a good deal for both teams.
by Patsfanb on Mar 1, 2009 1:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Now free agents will want to come to KC
Nice setup Pioli… you’re the man!!!
by ChiefDog on Feb 28, 2009 2:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Note
Cassel will be 27 at the startof the season.
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by Ridiculous Matt on Feb 28, 2009 1:53 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
And
Vrabel will be 34 I believe.
by Joel Thorman on Feb 28, 2009 1:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Cassel is a ridiculously young 27.
He didn’t start in college, has only started one season in the NFL. He has a lot of miles ahead of him. If the Chiefs get an 8-10 year starter for a second round pick (and add a veteran LB to add work ethic lessons to a team coddled by Herm) it’s a pretty amazing trade. Remember the Chiefs gave up a first rounder for Trent Green and a first rounder for Joe Montana.
by Rev. Slappy on Feb 28, 2009 2:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and a second (?) rounder for The Herm!
Fourth to First
by kabrink on Feb 28, 2009 3:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ya'll dont think Guppy is behind this trying to pull a fast one do you?
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
by Lanier63 on Feb 28, 2009 1:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hahaha!
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
by ROC 27 on Feb 28, 2009 1:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Now all we need is to teach people how to actually spell Cassel’s name. Although Castle does look pretty cool.
by ktr17x on Feb 28, 2009 1:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I wonder how Tony and Waters
will react to this stuff.
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by Ridiculous Matt on Feb 28, 2009 1:56 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I must confess that I was not big on Cassel
but for a 2nd Rd. pick and with Vrabel this looks like a monumental pick. It is great to be a Chiefs fan!
by Ilamuku on Feb 28, 2009 1:56 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I'm telling you
It’s a steal…. And if Cassel ends up being a Hall of Famer, this will be a day remembered forever. and one of the biggest steals in NFL history
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
by ROC 27 on Feb 28, 2009 1:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+100
This ranks up there with the first day I saw my own penis!
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
by Lanier63 on Feb 28, 2009 1:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
which was last week?
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
by ROC 27 on Feb 28, 2009 1:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Me too!
Wasn’t real big on him 2 hours ago…Now he is looking like a savior for only a second round pick
Denver Sucks!!!!!
by Major Tom on Feb 28, 2009 1:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It Was An Outstanding Trade
Even if he’s not a Hall of Famer. A QB who’s posted stats like that and a good situational linebacker for only a 2nd round pick? That’s a great move on the Chiefs’ part.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
by UCrawford on Feb 28, 2009 1:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
Great, great trade. I’m very pleased.
by Joel Thorman on Feb 28, 2009 1:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
omg, are my eyes deceiving me
UC said the word ’outstanding" and “trade” in the same sentence.
by oldchiefsfan on Feb 28, 2009 8:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
A second rounder and Vrabel to boot. Pioli sure did pull a seemingly Jedi Mind Trick for this one.
by Eastcoastransplant on Mar 1, 2009 2:34 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude! We are the #1 Chiefs site online!!
We’re the only dudes online overflowing our threads!!
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
by ROC 27 on Feb 28, 2009 1:56 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Yep
Part of it is the auto-refresh comment feature. Kinda chat room-esque.
by Joel Thorman on Feb 28, 2009 1:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Though that's not conducive to page views
I think we’re doing fine in that department (almost 5,000 an hour).
by Joel Thorman on Feb 28, 2009 1:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Is this the number 1 SBNation site?
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
by Lanier63 on Feb 28, 2009 2:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
#1 football right now
Since Peterson’s firing we’ve been on fire.
by Joel Thorman on Feb 28, 2009 2:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
funny what 1 letter will do :)
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
by Lanier63 on Feb 28, 2009 2:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Never underestimate
How rejuvenating a firing like that is to a fanbase.
by Joel Thorman on Feb 28, 2009 2:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldnt doubt it!
- sports fans: CHIEFS!
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
by ROC 27 on Feb 28, 2009 2:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Haha
It probably won’t top the Peterson firing approval which was like 96%.
by Joel Thorman on Feb 28, 2009 2:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Today's developments make Brian Waters look like the stupidest man alive.
“Boo hoo hoo! Nobody will talk to me! Waaaaaaaaaaa!” It turns out the reason nobody will talk to you is because they were busy putting this trade together and UPGRADING THE TALENT LEVEL OF YOUR TEAMMATES, ASSHOLE! (Sorry about the all caps, I was going for a Lewis Black/Bill Hicks vibe).
Waters needs to go home and cry to his wife Jason Whitlock.
by Rev. Slappy on Feb 28, 2009 2:00 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
The Chiefs were upgraded in a big way today.
by Joel Thorman on Feb 28, 2009 2:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm freaking ecstatic.
"and peep this ethiopian queen from philly taking classes abroad, she studying film and photo flash focus record"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm.
by DThomasReigns on Feb 28, 2009 2:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow....Schefter is talking now on NFLN
is reporting that Detroit wanted Cassel and then was going to trade him for Cutler. Schefter is saying that Cutler is pissed with the Broncos that his name was even brought up in moving him to the Lions
Denver Sucks!!!!!
by Major Tom on Feb 28, 2009 2:02 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
It just gets better. :)
And because of the trade we get to see a lot more Lindsay Soto today.
"and peep this ethiopian queen from philly taking classes abroad, she studying film and photo flash focus record"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm.
by DThomasReigns on Feb 28, 2009 2:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
If I were the Broncos I wouldn’t be moving Cutler for anything less than 3 first rounders…even then I don’t know if I would.
by Joel Thorman on Feb 28, 2009 2:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you know what would be funny is
if Mortenson got on TV saying his sources say that was never a deal they were trying to make. (detroit) just to try and get back at Schefter for his shanahan blasting of Morty.
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
by Lanier63 on Feb 28, 2009 2:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
huh?
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
by Lanier63 on Feb 28, 2009 2:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Detroit wanted to snag Cassel
Presumably for their 2nd round pick then trade Cassel + ??? to the Broncos for Jay Cutler.
Doubt Cutler or the Broncos were keen on that idea.
by Joel Thorman on Feb 28, 2009 2:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
According to NFLN, Cutler is pissed.
"and peep this ethiopian queen from philly taking classes abroad, she studying film and photo flash focus record"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm.
by DThomasReigns on Feb 28, 2009 2:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess Josh McDainiels wants a little of the Patriot way in Denver
Denver Sucks!!!!!
by Major Tom on Feb 28, 2009 2:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's one thing to be a Patriots coach
it’s a WHOLE ’nother thing to be a Patriots KING!
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
by ROC 27 on Feb 28, 2009 2:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1111111111111111111111111111111111111
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
by Lanier63 on Feb 28, 2009 2:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Detroit was inquiring about Cassel this morning with the Patriots
They wanted to get Cassel and send him to Denver for Cutler
Denver Sucks!!!!!
by Major Tom on Feb 28, 2009 2:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Think about this
Two of our biggest areas of concern/weakness were the LB and QB. If we snag Curry then our LB core is quickly upgraded (even if for a year or two with Vrabel) and our QB situation is upgraded a ton.
by Joel Thorman on Feb 28, 2009 2:02 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
We're immediately have gone to the next level!
And I said it… We just need 2 or 3 pickups in the off season (not including the draft)
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
by ROC 27 on Feb 28, 2009 2:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+ 1 Playoffs here we come we can win the West!
by Jay 23 on Feb 28, 2009 2:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
8-8 won the West this year.
I was comparing the Brian Waters situation to the Jason Taylor situation last year. I commented that Taylor must have enjoyed watching the Dolphins in the playoffs from his living room. People got all over me, suggesting it was stupid to think the Chiefs could win their division like the Dolphins did this year. After todays events, anybody want to say that winning the West in 2009 is unrealistic?
by Rev. Slappy on Feb 28, 2009 2:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Now we need to address the lines in the draft and maybe a few free agent pickups. I’m excited to see what this revamped team can do.
by ktr17x on Feb 28, 2009 2:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Shaun Rogers!
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
by ROC 27 on Feb 28, 2009 2:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
plus he wants out of Cleveland
by ChiTownChiefs on Feb 28, 2009 2:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Off topic:
Jon Kitna to the Cowboys. That’s a strange move to me.
You think it's coincidence that I bleed red?
by Mully on Feb 28, 2009 2:06 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Not really, they just released Brad Johnson and needed a #2 QB.
"and peep this ethiopian queen from philly taking classes abroad, she studying film and photo flash focus record"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm.
by DThomasReigns on Feb 28, 2009 2:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ah
Totally missed the Brad Johnson release.
You think it's coincidence that I bleed red?
by Mully on Feb 28, 2009 2:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Even If They Hadn't Released Johnson
They needed someone else. Johnson’s finished…he was absolutely horrible when they Cowboys needed to start him. And with Romo’s style of play he’s going to be an injury risk, so they need a backup.
Good move by the Lions. Kitna had no value for them and they were able to get something for him.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
by UCrawford on Feb 28, 2009 3:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe they decided
they were tired of having a QB who couldn’t win playoff games so they decided to get one who couldn’t win regular season games
by ktr17x on Feb 28, 2009 2:09 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
That's pretty funny.
With all her weight gain, I assumed Jessica Simpson was going to play O Line and help protect Romo.
by Rev. Slappy on Feb 28, 2009 2:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
T.J. Housh
Now lets get in the T.J. sweepstakes, a great veteran and would be a nice compliment to Cassel and Bowe….Come On!
blu
by blu43 on Feb 28, 2009 2:07 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
someone mentined that earlier :)
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
by Lanier63 on Feb 28, 2009 2:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Cassel's Contract
I wonder if they’ll put a ton of guaranteed money in the first year because we have so much cap room. Gotta use it somehow.
by Joel Thorman on Feb 28, 2009 2:08 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
This puts a major focus on the offensive line
Remember when we played the traditional style offense? Yeah it was horrible.
Major upgrades to the offensive line coming. This might change our focus to a tackle in the draft.
by Joel Thorman on Feb 28, 2009 2:09 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Detroit, Denver, Tampa
http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/02/28/cutler-upset-over-potential-deals-to-detroit-tampa-bay/
Blame my wife!
by sir eccles on Feb 28, 2009 2:09 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I had the thought
What if KC got the Cheese (Cassel) and will attempt to make their own deal? With TB or Detroit.
by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 28, 2009 6:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sir Eccles is reporting
That Guppy was included in the trade to New England.
Can’t say I agree with that move one bit. Not one bit.
by Joel Thorman on Feb 28, 2009 2:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
you mean they get Guppy and we got NESilver?
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
by Lanier63 on Feb 28, 2009 2:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Done
Yeah, we did get NESilver.
It’s okay, NES…Chiefs > Pats.
by Joel Thorman on Feb 28, 2009 2:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
hAHA!
I feel that… And NESilver changes his name to KCGold
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
by ROC 27 on Feb 28, 2009 2:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Seconded
"and peep this ethiopian queen from philly taking classes abroad, she studying film and photo flash focus record"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm.
by DThomasReigns on Feb 28, 2009 2:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ALL IN FAVOR?!
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
by ROC 27 on Feb 28, 2009 2:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Aye!
Great upgrade for AP.
Official statements coming soon.
by Joel Thorman on Feb 28, 2009 2:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What!?
Where is the source?? I bet it was Chris Mortensen reporting this move.
by NESilver on Feb 28, 2009 2:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sir eccles > Mortensen
Hope you life barbecue!
by Joel Thorman on Feb 28, 2009 2:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry dude...
It’s official… Consider yourself Kellen Winslow.
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
by ROC 27 on Feb 28, 2009 2:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Welcome, KCGold!
"and peep this ethiopian queen from philly taking classes abroad, she studying film and photo flash focus record"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm.
by DThomasReigns on Feb 28, 2009 2:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ha-ha!
You’ll like it here… Trust
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
by ROC 27 on Feb 28, 2009 2:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We will be working on hammering out a contract for zero compensation shortly...unless you would like some Beer Gloves?
We have a lot of them. :)
"and peep this ethiopian queen from philly taking classes abroad, she studying film and photo flash focus record"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm.
by DThomasReigns on Feb 28, 2009 2:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
Mine should be arriving any day now. They’ve been in the mail for about 17 months.
by Joel Thorman on Feb 28, 2009 2:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
That will go a long way with Pioli :)
by Joel Thorman on Feb 28, 2009 2:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I hear a Haley cussing coming!
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
by Lanier63 on Feb 28, 2009 2:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You think a Haley cussing compares to Belichick?
Not even close.
by NESilver on Feb 28, 2009 2:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
fortunately I've had to hear neither
but my Fire Chief can dish em out pretty good himself!
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
by Lanier63 on Feb 28, 2009 2:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Haley will make you cry.
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
by ROC 27 on Feb 28, 2009 2:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
should I ask BW?
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
by Lanier63 on Feb 28, 2009 2:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Then don't fight it...
Just jump on board!
“HE’S RESISTING ME!”
-Dumb and Dumber
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
by ROC 27 on Feb 28, 2009 2:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
But I will admit... I do like barbecue.
by NESilver on Feb 28, 2009 2:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Your first burnt end sandwich Is on us
by Joel Thorman on Feb 28, 2009 2:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
There's a lot of corn fed women here to
oooh… I’m not sure that’s a good thang
by ChiefDog on Feb 28, 2009 2:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
on AP?
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
by Lanier63 on Feb 28, 2009 2:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
is that where the Rothlesberger pants lady is from?
she ate a whole damn corn field!
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
by Lanier63 on Feb 28, 2009 2:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Vrabel
I actually see bigger value to us from him in this pick. our D is awfully young, thin at LB, and DJ’s been underperforming. Assuming his health is solid, and we can get a couple-few years outta him, then Cassel is gravy.
I’m not sold on Cassel, but sure, put him in the lead slot, and let him and Bone duke it out FTW. Whoever comes out on top, it shores up the QB position.
Excellent trade, if not at the Cowboys-Vikings level. Seems a decent enough move for NE, too.
If the O-line isn't built up, a rookie QB is gonna look bad next season. If the O-line is a lot better, Thigpen will win more next season.
QBs drafted in the top 5, back to 2001:
Michael Vick, David Carr, Joey Harrington, Carson Palmer, Eli Manning, Philip Rivers, Alex Smith, Vince Young, JaMarcus Russell, Matt Ryan. How many were worth that high a pick? You decide.
by Bleedingredandgold on Feb 28, 2009 2:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Especially with the 3-4
It’s a somewhat specialized defense so it’s nice to have a veteran of the 3-4 in there.
by Joel Thorman on Feb 28, 2009 2:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and he can play 4-3 as well, not so?
MLB was a pretty glaring lack last season. My guess is that Donnie was supposed to fill that, and his health issues kinda tore that plan up.
I could see Vrabel in a 4-3 at MLB, calling the shots. By all accounts, he’s got a head on his shoulders. Plus he adds to the 3-4 potential, as you note. Vrabel’s a bigger upgrade at LB than Cassel is at QB, unless I miss my guess.
Cassel vs. Thigpen in Camp should improve the play of both.
Next on the need list: linebacker, and both lines
by Bleedingredandgold on Feb 28, 2009 3:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Vrable gives us much needed leadership.
Maybe Gun was right about Jared Allen.
by Rev. Slappy on Feb 28, 2009 2:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
From NJ Chief earlier
“We’ve lost perhaps our best all around football player,” he said. “Defense, offense, special teams, Vrabes did it all. His intelligence and on field adjustments can not be replaced. This team has just changed immensely.” Ted Brushci
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
by Lanier63 on Feb 28, 2009 2:13 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Donkeys are scared
They are trying to downplay the trade on one of their fanposts.
Denver Sucks!!!!!
by Major Tom on Feb 28, 2009 2:14 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Donkeys did pretty well
Arrington, Buckhalter, Dawkins? Jeez.
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by Ridiculous Matt on Feb 28, 2009 2:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
5 year deal to Dawkins?
That’s a lot.
by Joel Thorman on Feb 28, 2009 2:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently, nearly half of the contract value is paid in the first 2 years
"and peep this ethiopian queen from philly taking classes abroad, she studying film and photo flash focus record"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm.
by DThomasReigns on Feb 28, 2009 2:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude's a gymrat
he’ll be good for a while.
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by Ridiculous Matt on Feb 28, 2009 2:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No one that the Donkeys signed scare me that much
Buckhalter cant stay healthy
Arrington lost his job to a D-2 rookie last year
and Dawkins has hit the downslope pretty fast
Unlike GMDM I refuse to trade my EL CD avatar until Jacobs proves his worth.
Holy Shit!!!...Peterson resigned...Am I dead?...Is This Heaven?
by RoyalsFanStuckInCardsLand on Feb 28, 2009 2:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Just Dawkins
The jury is out on Buckhalter/
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
by ROC 27 on Feb 28, 2009 2:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Overheard when we beat them this year
“We’re BACKKKKK!”
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
by Lanier63 on Feb 28, 2009 2:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Really looking forward to a renewed big time rivalry with the Broncos
by Lvl.99 on Feb 28, 2009 2:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well it's HUGE NOW
McDaniels vs Pioli
Cutler maybe spiting Cassel that because of HIM, he almost got traded
History
and so on
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
by ROC 27 on Feb 28, 2009 2:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So, now do we get a primetime game this year?
"and peep this ethiopian queen from philly taking classes abroad, she studying film and photo flash focus record"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm.
by DThomasReigns on Feb 28, 2009 2:18 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
my thoughts earlier
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
by Lanier63 on Feb 28, 2009 2:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hope so.
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
by ROC 27 on Feb 28, 2009 2:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Chiefs vs. Broncos on Monday/Sunday night
That would be sweet.
by Joel Thorman on Feb 28, 2009 2:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Lets get through the first few weeks first
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
by ROC 27 on Feb 28, 2009 2:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sunday night flex schedule.
If the Chiefs are contending next year there’s no reason why a prime time game couldn’t be added. That’s why the flex schedule is suck a brilliant idea. Who wants to watch the Jets?
by Rev. Slappy on Feb 28, 2009 2:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
by ROC 27 on Feb 28, 2009 2:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The next Elway vs. Montana?
Cutler vs. Cassel.
by Sudden on Feb 28, 2009 3:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I almost wish
The Broncos won the Super Bowl so we could face them on the Thursday opening game of the year.
by Joel Thorman on Feb 28, 2009 2:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That would be sweet
"and peep this ethiopian queen from philly taking classes abroad, she studying film and photo flash focus record"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm.
by DThomasReigns on Feb 28, 2009 2:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
if we are going to beat the Steelers
we will have our best chance in the first game
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
by Lanier63 on Feb 28, 2009 2:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We all know that is not happening
Pitt @ KC
by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 28, 2009 6:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
kinda hate to say it
but I didnt get this pumped when we got Trent Green
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
by Lanier63 on Feb 28, 2009 2:20 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I loved Trent Green.
He should have retired after that first huge concussion. It’s sad to see him get drubbed out of the league. I know these guys are uber-competitive, but you gotta know when it’s time to get out.
by Rev. Slappy on Feb 28, 2009 2:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully
We can gel a bit 1st
Tim Tebow.....concrete cyanide. Thanks jg.
by Chiefho on Feb 28, 2009 2:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
When and oly when...
Cassel becomes great, I am copyrighting a new nickname for Arrowhead…
Casselvania
"The quickest way to a man's heart is with my fist"- Chuck Norris
by mooseface79 on Feb 28, 2009 2:21 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
+10
Ridiculous Upside: All the "Almost NBA" info you can handle!
by Ridiculous Matt on Feb 28, 2009 2:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Here you go:
http://www.playnes.net/play/170/Castlevania_1.html
Cassel vs. Thigpen in Camp should improve the play of both.
Next on the need list: linebacker, and both lines
by Bleedingredandgold on Feb 28, 2009 2:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You know what would be funny?
Is if Brady actually WASNT ready and healthy by the season opener
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
by ROC 27 on Feb 28, 2009 2:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I would kick you in the shin right now if I could.
by NESilver on Feb 28, 2009 2:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Lol, the thought crossed my mind.
But I don’t want Roger Goodell fining me for my money and all of my belongings.
by NESilver on Feb 28, 2009 2:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Just a thought, KCGold! Just a thought
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
by ROC 27 on Feb 28, 2009 2:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Antonio Smith to the Texans
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
by ROC 27 on Feb 28, 2009 2:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Pass the Pioli Kool Aid Please
I’m ready with my Bong
by Ren on Feb 28, 2009 2:30 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Watch out HIV needs a hit
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
by Lanier63 on Feb 28, 2009 2:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Do you still Puff Puff Give with a bong?
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
by Lanier63 on Feb 28, 2009 2:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Funnel Beer-Bong
But hey—smoke em too if you got em
by Ren on Feb 28, 2009 2:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Stop all the tempation guys
I gave up all intoxication for Lent. Damn self-denial. How am I supposed to celebrate today?
by Sudden on Feb 28, 2009 3:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Make me wonder now, if Tampa will try to trade up for Satfford or Sanchez?
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
by Lanier63 on Feb 28, 2009 2:30 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Don't say that!
I still want that #3
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
by ROC 27 on Feb 28, 2009 2:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ohhh that's a point...
the trade value for the 3 is huge
by Ren on Feb 28, 2009 2:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I can only hope that Pioli feels the need to take Curry!
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
by ROC 27 on Feb 28, 2009 2:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Tampa picks 19th
anyone on their roster perhaps?
by ChiefDog on Feb 28, 2009 2:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They can have #3 for their 1st and 2nd.
by HIV 2 Elway on Feb 28, 2009 2:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ding ding ding ding
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
by Lanier63 on Feb 28, 2009 2:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We're like geniuses over here.
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
by ROC 27 on Feb 28, 2009 2:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Morty? are you looking for a scoop?
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
by Lanier63 on Feb 28, 2009 2:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
that would give us 4 starters with two picks
and we havent lost anyone
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
by Lanier63 on Feb 28, 2009 2:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ha-ha!
Nice!
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
by ROC 27 on Feb 28, 2009 2:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
True
We can either take their 1st and 2nd… And we can draft Maualuga
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
by ROC 27 on Feb 28, 2009 2:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well... I hate Brian Dawkins now.
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
by ROC 27 on Feb 28, 2009 2:38 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I'm not too worried
I mean we played Denver with one of the biggest hitters in NFL history, John Lynch… Sooooo
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
by ROC 27 on Feb 28, 2009 2:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
what he said
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
by Lanier63 on Feb 28, 2009 2:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think it will be very similar to Lynch...
Dawkins will be 36 in Oct….they are paying him about 3.5 million more than he was worth to Philly…that is a bad sign for Dawk…
I am not too worried…
by woodman212 on Feb 28, 2009 3:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What about Pollard?
Look what he caused
by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 28, 2009 6:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
#3 pick
now the trade was awsome and done we have a QB and a LB/teacher for our #3 pick…..
ARRON CURRY!!!!!!!!!!!
by howlingwolf on Feb 28, 2009 3:24 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
wake up !!
This team still has no o-line and most of the good freeagents are gone,if not all!!! I now see us trading down and drafting o-line in the first round GOOD BYE AARON CURRY !!!
by CPT.Caveman on Feb 28, 2009 3:42 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
man, perfect pic of those guys. I was wondering what happened to the guys yesterday that
were ready to blow their brains out because we picked up Vrabel.
by oldchiefsfan on Feb 28, 2009 8:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
well as a Tyler Thigpen fan, I’m not too happy about this trade. :( But I figured ever since Pioli came in as GM. It will likely work out well for the Chiefs and to get both him and Vrabel for a second rounder seems like a steal. Guess I will have to hope Tyler moves on elsewhere now.
by Kallor on Feb 28, 2009 4:02 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
totaly agree
i hope this isnt Grbac vs. Gannon. but for a second what can you say?
by Hendrix on Feb 28, 2009 4:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm alright with this.
And, I say that as a fan of Tyler Thigpen.
If Tyler’s our QB, we’ve got a great back-up for him. If Cassel’s our QB, we’ve got a great back-up for him. That’s not a bad position to be in.
We’ve got a leader on Defense, which we sorely needed. Even if he’s only able to give us another couple of seasons, he can train the young guys in the way they ought to do things. That’s not a bad deal, either — especially if we manage to get Curry.
And, at the end of the day, we only gave up a 2nd Round draft pick. I think it’s a dang solid trade.
I still don’t like Haley, but I have a lot more confidence in Pioli now.
by JacinB on Feb 28, 2009 4:07 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
WOW!
Its amazing how fast the mood changed from yestrday. Every body was hating on Pioli and Haley yesterday. I see the cooler heads prevailed.
Toby J. Neal
by chiefs24 on Feb 28, 2009 4:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
WooHoo!
I just got home from work and at first glance, this looks like a great deal. Feel bad about Thiggy and I’m not completely sold on Cassel though. Now my heart wants us to draft a certain WR from Texas Tech and my brain wants Curry. But OL may be the wise choice. I’m so confused! :)
by OT89 on Feb 28, 2009 6:58 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Good luck guys and gals...
NE fan here. Cassell quite literally saved our season after almost everyone wanted him cutt after the preseason games. He is mobile as hell in the pocket and makes some damn good decisions to boot. I thought Thigpen was gonna be the guy, but, new GM, new rules. Vrabel, what can I say . yeah, he may be gettin’ up there in age, but veteran leadership is what is needed in the locker room and on the field. He’s had a couple of unsportsmanlike incidences, but the good far outweighs the bad. This guy will be a rock on your defense…whether it be from an experience standpoint or a tutoring standpoint. Out of the two, really sad to see Vrabel go. He’s got a couple of years left and would’ve liked to see him retire as a Patriot. He’s yours now, take care of him accordingly.
I’ve been reading how everyone’s ready to show Pioli the door already before today. Hell, sounds like good ole’ NE hospitality. He’s used to it. NE sports fans are some of the toughest in the country. Lay it on him and hope he’ll deliver for you. Good luck this season. I for one will be watching your team. Hell, I’ll definitely take Cassell in a fantasy draft if he’s availbale.
by OneMore on Feb 28, 2009 7:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
What I keep seeing in the press is "Brilliant",
“Excellent” and “Outstanding” trade. Pioli is still showing he is a master at the trade. Expect more to come. They may not look like the shiny new penny you wanted, but underneath they will be some good solid ones that work just as well.
by oldchiefsfan on Feb 28, 2009 9:03 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Very nice!
I just can’t remember when i have been this excited about the Chiefs. I have had to get used to barely getting by, so these moves with actual potential are even shocking me a little. If this keeps up, my rock bottom expectations might raise a bit ;-)
In addition to our acquisitions, we have somehow managed to cause strife within an opposing organization. Jay is now pissed at the Bronco’s, how cool is that? I can’t imagine that this was by design, but who knows, lol.
by morob on Mar 1, 2009 12:29 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Steve Bono, Welcome Back to KC!
Cassel has yet to do anything. He took a SB team and missed the playoffs. He’s a one-year guy who has yet to win anything. This is not Joe Montana to the Chiefs. Its not even Dave Krieg to the Chiefs.
A 2nd rounder isn’t too bad but let’s wait and see. I remember Scott Mitchell and Steve Bono (and others).
Let’s see how well he does when he doesn’t have Randy Moss and Pioli/Haley run TG out of town.
Just please keep Thigpen around and give him a chance when Cassel falls flat. His upside is much greater.
As always, I’ll be happy to be wrong about my pessimism.
by Raisethefencesbackto12feet on Mar 1, 2009 1:06 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
not blissfully optimistic
But Pioli knows more about Cassel than Carl did about Bono. HTH
Cassel vs. Thigpen in Camp should improve the play of both.
Next on the need list: linebacker, and both lines
by Bleedingredandgold on Mar 1, 2009 2:03 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
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