Chiefs Trade for QB Matt Cassel
by Joel Thorman on Feb 28, 2009 12:09 PM CST
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No noise when free agency starts, right?
Terms of the trade weren't immediately disclosed. And this is coming from Adam Schefter, not you-know-who so we know it's legitimate.
GO CHIEFS!!!
Here is DJ's FanShot. H/T Major Tom.
The Chiefs gave up their second round pick (#34) for Cassel and Mike Vrabel.
“I have a long history with both players,” said Kansas City Chiefs General Manager Scott Pioli. “Mike and Matt are men that I respect both personally and professionally. I look forward to having them as new members of the Chiefs family.”
Belichick on Vrabel:
"When Mike arrived in 2001, we knew we were adding a solid outside linebacker,” Belichick said. “But where Mike took it from there exceeded our highest hopes. Mike Vrabel epitomizes everything a coach could seek in a professional football player: toughness, intelligence, playmaking, leadership, versatility, and consistency at the highest level. Behind the scenes, Mike's wit and personality is one of the things we have all enjoyed about coming to work every day. "The toughest aspect of my job is the day I stop coaching people like Mike, who did everything in his power to contribute to team success. Of all the players I have coached in my career, there is nobody I enjoyed working with more than Mike In the same way people recognize guys like Troy Brown, we appreciate and thank Mike Vrabel. He is one of the very special Patriots champions."
Belichick on Cassel:
"It is very easy to root for guys like Matt Cassel, who do everything the right way and flourish as a result. As much as we would have loved to continue working with Matt, we wish him nothing but the best as he takes this next step forward in his career."
How good of a deal is this for the Chiefs? NBC pointed out two other quarterbacks who were traded for a 2nd round pick:
- Daunte Culpepper (with a shot knee)
- A.J. Feeley
Nice job, Mr. Pioli.
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I almost pissed myself when i saw it. :) I like Thigpen, but he must feel bad since he will have to pick the clipboard up again
Denver Sucks!!!!!
HOLY CRAP
I was just thinking that I need to learn more about this dude, but would do it IF AND WHEN something every went down. Here we are. WOW.
Does this mean
TJ is gonzo? I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t be happy with that trade. Nor with losing our #3 overall pick!
by Eastcoastransplant on Feb 28, 2009 12:13 PM CST up reply actions
With Vrabel a part of the package I have a feeling we gave up a player too.
Maybe TG or BW.
"and peep this ethiopian queen from philly taking classes abroad, she studying film and photo flash focus record"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm.
I think you are right
What are the Patriot’s need? i know they just signed a TE yesterday from the Jets
Denver Sucks!!!!!
Defense, defense, defense.
Safety and cornerback are the biggest ones, but we could probably use an OLB now that Vrabel is gone, too.
Not much need on offense. A third WR and maybe an OL. TE would’ve been a need, but we picked up Baker so we’re probably set there.
I dont wanna give up
any of those cats!
by Chiefsfan1970 on Feb 28, 2009 12:48 PM CST up reply actions
I'd be fine with Carr
But NOT Pollard or Flowers. Yeah right!
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
Well
Looks like you guys are gonna get Connor Barwin now. How happy are you? I have a feeling you guys are going to get a lot younger at LB.
yeah, so here's the question
What would people be ok with if we gave up TG and/or BW? What kind of trade are we looking at? What is Cassel worth? And how much is it gonna hurt us if we lose either TG and BW or Both?
by Eastcoastransplant on Feb 28, 2009 12:14 PM CST up reply actions
I mentioned above that
I think Tony is worth a 2nd or a 3rd and a 5th, I would say Waters is a 3rd rounder. No problems if we lose them both acutally deal them away, Kc is offically under reconstruction and its not just the stadium baby
wake up people!!
Now we have matt cassel the 14 million dollar man and no o-line to protect him,lol smart move, i think not.Even waters wants out now,we have 1 pick in the first 2 rounds,how does this help a team that needs alot of hole’s filled!!!As far as T.G or B.waters being traded thats just to more big holes to fill and not any attempts at anyone in the freeagent market!!!!What are they doing please dont dont get rid of ANY OF THE SECONDARY,they were the only bright spots for this team and one of the best secondaries in the nfl in the future!!!! I now see us drafting a o-line guy with the first pick and not aaron curry ,you think our d-fense was bad last yr just wait at this rate will have a bunch of patriot has beens!!! TYLER THIGPEN could at least avoid the rush with what we had at o-line M.cassel has no chance and will get killed!!!!
As long as we didn't give up our 3rd pick, I'm good with this
I mean lets be honest, I wanna give Thiggy a chance as much as the next guy, but he didn’t put up that great of numbers. And if it’s true that Tony G will be traded, there goes Thiggy’s #1 supporter. Sure, Thiggy could have been great, but he also could have been terrible. Cassel can actually take snaps under center and we can actually establish a run game with him.
LJ has as much value as Eddergin James from Arizona
Dont expect us to be pounding the ball, rather using offenses like Arizona and NE. They are pass happy offenses
IM NOT HAPPY
Cassel had the patriots o-line to work behind now he has nothing, i hope you guys are right and this move pays off but i have a bad feeling about this deal!!!! I just feel like we should address our o-line needs before we got the 14 million dollar man if waters goes who do we have left just B.alberts thats it!!!!!How does this help the team as a whole…………………….it doesnt!!!!
!!!
Always remember that the more exclamation points you use, the more persuasive your argument!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
;-)
Cassel vs. Thigpen in Camp should improve the play of both.
Next on the need list: linebacker, and both lines
by Bleedingredandgold on Feb 28, 2009 3:39 PM CST up reply actions
I want to know
what we gave, and how much he is getting payed before I pass judgment on the deal.
Cassel's resume ... according to Pats fans
Date of Birth: May 17, 1982 (age 26)
Place of Birth: Northridge, California
Height: 6 ft. 4 in.
Weight: 230 lb.
College: Southern California
NFL Draft: 2005 – 7th Round – 230th overall
Roster Status: Franchise Tag by New England
2008 Season Statistics
Games: 16
Record: 11-5
Pass Attempts: 516
Pass Completions: 327
Completion Percentage: 63.4%
Passing Yards: 3,693
Yards Per Attempt: 7.2
Touchdown Passes: 21
Interceptions: 11
Times Sacked: 47
Yards Lost on Sacks: 219
Passer Rating: 89.4
Carries: 73
Rushing Yards: 270
Rushing Average: 3.7
Longest Run: 19
FYI, that's from a post on PatsPulpit by the one and only NESilver
by Keyser Sose on Feb 28, 2009 12:20 PM CST up reply actions
Indeed =)
Here is the link for more info on Cassel.
It mostly details his stats, any records he broke while with the Patriots, his game-winning or tying drives this last season, and how he played during crappy weather conditions.
Thanks for bringing it up, Keyser Sose!
BOOOOOOOM
Loving it, can’t wait till the Chiefs are rocking the socks off of Arrowhead again. I’m sure all the haters will continue to cry but this is great! Go Chiefs!!!!
What did we give up?
I have no idea how to respond to this trade until I see what we give up. Without knowing that, I’m leaning toward unhappy. The Patriots were asking for a lot, and I’m not that impressed with Cassel.
Can Pioli bring in anyone who is not already part of his posse? We’d better be bringing in the best people, not just the ones he knows the best.
by Offense of the 70s on Feb 28, 2009 12:19 PM CST reply actions
agreed big time
if we gave up a 1st rounder I’m not happy
by I need more Esteban on Feb 28, 2009 12:55 PM CST up reply actions
Congrats!
As a Pats fan I had to come here to tell you how much you will love this kid, great work ethic and a gutsy player.
And as for our needs, DB and LB, no one here has any clue what the compensation is I heard your 2nd rounder this year, and conditional for next year. no mention of players.
Pioli found Brady in the 6th round and Cassel in the 7th.
I think we’re going to be finding quality all over the draft.
by Rev. Slappy on Feb 28, 2009 12:30 PM CST up reply actions
Hahahahahaha
Hahahahahahahaha no wait, I’m not done yet, hahahahahahaha ah ah oh boy ahahahaha
Blame my wife!
That's what I'm thinking too
Probably switched picks and gave up a second. Cassel is definitely worth it, we gave up a first for Green at the end of his career, I’ll gladly give up a first for a QB in his prime. Will people please stop saying he was good because of the system? Most of the top QB’s are in systems built around them. Mcnabb is about the only QB that doesn’t need a lot of talent to win. We have our QB,now they’ll start putting the weapons around him. I myself am excited to finally have someone at QB that should be the face of the team for years. It’s about time!
Every QB is a product of a system
It is retarded that this excuse is used all the time.
AFC West Champs in 2009? Mayyybee.
Pioli and Haley said they were going to design their system to fit their players.
by Rev. Slappy on Feb 28, 2009 12:53 PM CST up reply actions
mcnabb
even mcnabb himself is in a system.
by Red and Gold on Feb 28, 2009 6:03 PM CST up reply actions
Man i sure hope
Our number 3 pick had nothing to do with this. 2nd round i can deal with but not number 3. Big move huge move. Pioli wants people he likes and knows can get it done. Good job Pioli
This is bad, I dont think it happened.
No one else is reporting this. The biggest free agent quaterback and no one, but shefter is reporting. It sounds like another Shannahan to HC story. I thought we were going to rebuild through the draft? We just got a 3rd string quaterback that had a great year to replace a 3rd string quaterback that had a good year on a bad team? All reports from boston globe and affiliates have him going to Tampa.
by brn2luzchiefsfan on Feb 28, 2009 12:26 PM CST reply actions
If Cassel was NE's third string QB...
who was their second stringer?
by HIV 2 Elway on Feb 28, 2009 12:28 PM CST up reply actions
your right, he was the second it just sounded like a better complaint.
by brn2luzchiefsfan on Feb 28, 2009 1:37 PM CST up reply actions
I'm thrilled with the prospect
Arrowspread goes into a different direction and we mix it up with pounding the ball.
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
ARE YOU PEOPLE HIGH
This team has no o-line he wont look good and theres no way we pound the ball!!!!
#3 pick not involved in deal
We kept our #3, here we come Curry!
"and peep this ethiopian queen from philly taking classes abroad, she studying film and photo flash focus record"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm.
How in the hell are we gonna have our cake and eat it too!!! HA-HA!
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
And that is from NBCSports, not the PFT entries on there right now.
"and peep this ethiopian queen from philly taking classes abroad, she studying film and photo flash focus record"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm.
by DThomasReigns on Feb 28, 2009 12:28 PM CST up reply actions
rad!
I just hope his ‘sources’ aren’t the same as you know who’s
by Eastcoastransplant on Feb 28, 2009 12:36 PM CST up reply actions
me too!
And awesome use of “rad!”
"and peep this ethiopian queen from philly taking classes abroad, she studying film and photo flash focus record"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm.
by DThomasReigns on Feb 28, 2009 12:39 PM CST up reply actions
How 'bout
GNARLY!!!
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
like fer shure bro
“Well Stu I’ll tell you, surfing’s not a sport, it’s a way of life, you know, a hobby. It’s a way of looking at that wave and saying, "Hey bud, let’s party!”
Kinda how I feel like right now!
by Eastcoastransplant on Mar 1, 2009 3:09 AM CST up reply actions
I hope Elvis isn't back in the building
Everything about Cassel has reminded me a lot of Grbac, please, please let me be wrong about that!
by Offense of the 70s on Feb 28, 2009 12:27 PM CST reply actions
Funny...I said the same thing last season about Thigpen
I think Cassell will take us to more wins.
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
He's only showed me 1 win...and if he was that fantastic, he wouldn't have been on the practice squad in Minn.
He hasn’t shown that he can win more than Grbac.{sarc.}
And obviously the Org. doesn’t see him as the answer.
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
They are much different QBs.
Grbac was a statue, Bones was an incredible athlete who could scramble with the best of them.
Grbac had a cannon, but wasn’t accurate at all. Thiggy’s arm wasn’t quite as strong, and he was more accurate.
Sure, neither had great success in the W column, but there a helluva lot better comparisons than Grbac. Come on.
That’s just incredibly lazy.
It was a joke dude...Just saying the org. doesn't see him as the answer
…and when the old org. saw Grbac and Thigpen and Croyle as the answer, that says a lot about that org. Bad moves, bad choices.
I’ll take Piloi’s word for it until he proves the supporters wrong.
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
Pioli knows Cassel better than Carl knew Grbac.
Really Carl knew nothing about Grbac. He was just transfixed with the 49ers.
by Rev. Slappy on Feb 28, 2009 12:32 PM CST up reply actions
wow
I was just saying that to a friend, I’m with you on that nervousness
by I need more Esteban on Feb 28, 2009 12:58 PM CST up reply actions
OHHHHHHHH BOY
Shefter is saying there is one other team involved – NOT DONE YET
They're saying the contract is the issue
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
Nah... They wouldnt make all this hooplah if it wasnt us
I don’t think New England would do that to Pioli
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
I don't give a crap...
As long as we keep our 3rd.
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
Geeez they're speculating as bad as bloggers
Get Mortensen and Jack Harry in there…geeez
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
I hear the trade
was a 2nd round pick and a conditional pick, but this counts for Cassel and Vrable, bot just Cassel. In other words, the Chiefs gave up a total of a 2nd and a conditional. NOT a pick yesterday, a second and conditional today
sorry I ment to put not
instead of bot
by metal_militia on Feb 28, 2009 12:31 PM CST up reply actions
thanks
for the record, im not a chiefs fan, Im a colts fan
by metal_militia on Feb 28, 2009 12:32 PM CST up reply actions
I got the name from
Metallicas song, metal militia on the album kill em all. Great Album, Great song
by metal_militia on Feb 28, 2009 12:34 PM CST up reply actions
check out the Dutch band TEXTURES
last.fm or something
You have just received the Amish Virus. Since we do not have electricity or computers, you are on the honor system. Please delete all of your files.
Thank thee
The only team that can compete with us is
Tampa Bay or Detroit
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
If Pioli got Cassel without giving up the #3....
he must have used the Jedi mind trick on BB. “Those aren’t the droids you’re looking for.”
by Rev. Slappy on Feb 28, 2009 12:40 PM CST up reply actions
Thats JEDI!
“You WILL give me Matt Cassel and Mike Vrabel for just one pick”……hahahahahahahaha. Thats the shit.
CRAZY!
I would have never thought the Chiefs would have this much activity of the opening of Free Agency… and trades none the less…
The real question here is what did we give up? I sure hope it wasn’t TOO much…
KC Chiefs Football Blog
Go Chiefs!
Yeah, I just saw on NFL Network
that the deal wasn’t final and that there could be a third ‘surprise team’ involved
KC Chiefs Football Blog
Go Chiefs!
if we have the third pick...
and can get Curry, I’d be happy. Truth be told, I think Thigpen would have been fine given a few year as the starter. Pioli wants his stamp on the team.
Cassel is a very young 26.
He didn’t start in college, his only years starting in the NFL was last year. I think he will have a lot of mileage. If we got a 10 year starter and gave up a 1st round pick to get him, I don’t think it’s a bad trade. It’s a better use of the pick than Dorsey.
pulling my hair out
did we get him or not? do we still have #3 overall or not? is tony G still a chief or not? this is so frustrating…. DAMN YOU PIOLI!!! shakes fists at the sky
Im sure we got him
We just need to work out the kinks and write up the contract
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
and swat the flies trying to get in the mix.
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
A little exciting....
Gives us shit to talk about,.
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
WHAT no body had to time to call me about this?
j/k good news!
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
Right!?
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
Nice try
you knew about this the whole time. Tired of all the secrets you are keeping Lanier! :)
AFC West Champs in 2009? Mayyybee.
I think Lanier is actually Scott Pioli
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
My ears hurting from trying to call Pioli
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
I will honestly tell you it is not
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
That would be pretty amazing.
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
I would be ecstatic with just the 2nd
"and peep this ethiopian queen from philly taking classes abroad, she studying film and photo flash focus record"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm.
by DThomasReigns on Feb 28, 2009 12:44 PM CST up reply actions
2nd and a next year pick.... But NO 1STs!!!! Ha-ha!
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
ok ok
maybe the chiefs send tony G to the panthers, the pats get julius peppers, and we get cassel along with some 2nd rounder and conditional #1 in 2010… does that work for anyone? lol… all speculation…
Nope.
I want Peppers
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
holy cow
two starters for a second round pick?
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
It has to be another pick next year.... Thats TOO much of a steal.
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
Not necessarily
Look they get a second round pick and clear 20 million in salary cap
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
I'll personally be very disappointed
I understand it helps to clear up cap space, but Cassel and Vrabel? That’s worth at least two picks. A second and a conditional sounds better than just a second rounder for a potential franchise QB and a good OLB (yes, an old one, but still good).
hey we will be happy to give you a Chiefs jersey :)
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
You can have them all, seriously.
"and peep this ethiopian queen from philly taking classes abroad, she studying film and photo flash focus record"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm.
by DThomasReigns on Feb 28, 2009 1:00 PM CST up reply actions
Which one?
we got one on here with her picture, she wearing Rothlesberger shorts
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
Not her. She's our best one. :)
"and peep this ethiopian queen from philly taking classes abroad, she studying film and photo flash focus record"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm.
by DThomasReigns on Feb 28, 2009 1:01 PM CST up reply actions
Good Pick Up Guys
But, remember Cassel was good for a reason. He was on a great team. How many picks did you guys give to get Vrabel and Cassel?
A New Spirit, A New Team, A New Coach, But Same Commitment.
apparently one
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
A second round pick
is still a very good pick. I wonder if we find a way to trade back into the early second round.
Don’t forget that Pioli has a history of being Stingy with trades. I really hope he just isn’t tryn to get the pats a quick superbowl ring. And hurting our early future
HAHA! People at the Boston Globe are commenting
Brandon Flowers and a few picks! Ha-ha!
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
KC
would be a bunch of fools to give up Flowers. Pats fans are delusional. (not that I have anything against them, being a Colts fan and all)^
<.<
by metal_militia on Feb 28, 2009 12:50 PM CST up reply actions
I was hoping the Colts could have gotten flowers actually
during the 08 draft. You guys have great corner there.
by metal_militia on Feb 28, 2009 12:52 PM CST up reply actions
Makes you wonder if Tony and BW change their tune about leaving?
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
Not Tony
Tony has a hard pee pee for Thigpen.
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
Yeah but Cassel completed 63% of his passes
Tony may like the way this team is headed. This also means we probably aren’ t in the arrowspread anymore.
AFC West Champs in 2009? Mayyybee.
I think LJ may benefit more from this
because we won’t have to resort to the Shotgun spread, which means more of a run game
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
Cassel operated
alot from shotgun.
think of the running game from NE or Arizona, its not a prolific one, if anything look for us to continue the spread
You've got multiple sources
SI, ESPN saying the same thing. This is a done deal, Cassel and Vrabel for the 34th pick. Thats it.
OK PLEASE END THIS NOW
UNTIL we see it from Schefter please stop banging the Flowers and Carr stuff, today will end up like yesterday. Come on guys.
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
to much infighting on here about all this crap
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
Peter King
Is a TOTAL tool, but is accurate in his info, especially from the Pats.
This is a done deal.
Good job!!
Getting cassel and mike vrabel but i still don’t think you will win our division the raiders will win .
This year. is the year, for years to come
The Raiders?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
by paratrooper on Feb 28, 2009 12:52 PM CST up reply actions
Well we cant wait to have fun trying!
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
There's no way its only for a 2nd rounder
And if it is, HOLY CRAP we got a steal!
that's still a pretty great deal
because it won’t turn into a high conditional pick unless we perform well, and if we perform well then who cares what we gave up
That'd work for me
I mean, again… NE wants to clear that cap space. 14 mil
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
A Man whats so funny
I saw you guys finish with 2 -14 so i think i should be laughing.
This year. is the year, for years to come
Oh yeah?
I saw you guys lose just about every game in the past 7 years…. I’m STILL laughing.
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
Theres a reason why they call it the "Black Hole"
Players that go there are never seen again.
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
Don't the Raiders have a blog?
Or are you the only literate fan the Raiders have?
by paratrooper on Feb 28, 2009 12:58 PM CST up reply actions
check below, not quite so literate
Unlike GMDM I refuse to trade my EL CD avatar until Jacobs proves his worth.
Holy Shit!!!...Peterson resigned...Am I dead?...Is This Heaven?
by RoyalsFanStuckInCardsLand on Feb 28, 2009 12:59 PM CST up reply actions
LOL...
Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.
by aPacificChief on Mar 2, 2009 2:12 PM CST up reply actions
We're talking
Randy Moss
Dominic Rhodes
Warren Sapp
Javon Walker
DeAngelo Hall
and it goes on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on/
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
Yes we were shitty as hell
but the Raiders will continue to suck as long as Al Davis in in charge. Plus you still have that pile of lard Fatmarcus calling signals. Talk about a bust.
by paratrooper on Feb 28, 2009 12:55 PM CST up reply actions
if the market for ...
Cassel dried up, then the Pats couldn’t have that much money tied up on two quarterbacks…I just hope Cassel has “it” in him…I heard he was ok being the back up to Brady.
Again NE came out very good in this
They end up with 4 first day picks, not all from us and an extra $20 million in salary cap room
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
Peter King
Now it has been learned that the Chiefs will get both Vrabel and Cassel in exchange for the 34th overall pick in April’s draft.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/peter_king/02/28/chiefs.trade.for.cassel/index.html
Honestly, I think its pretty fair, I’m not in love with Cassel, but for our 2nd round pick, you almsost have to do it.
Lost every game
let me remind you of week 2 when our rokkie runin back gave yall 300 yards on the ground along with fargas so yeah
This year. is the year, for years to come
I said lost ABOUT every game, fool
And WOW! YOU best us 2 times in 6 years! Congrats man… You can take that monkey off your back, bro.
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
Now I see
why Pioli and Haley were a little too busy to chat with waters.
Tim Tebow.....concrete cyanide. Thanks jg.
Thank you for listening to me the last 36 hours
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
a woman that listens to me
I think I’m in love :)
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
NFLN says its DONE
WE GOT MATT CASSEL
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
NFL Network says its a DONE DEAL
More importantly, Lindsay Soto says that it’s a done deal.
Hey thats my wife!
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
OH NO here we go again.
You want me to tell her HI for you?
You dirty dog :)
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
I am so excited...
I think I peed a little.
fingers crossed
Unlike GMDM I refuse to trade my EL CD avatar until Jacobs proves his worth.
Holy Shit!!!...Peterson resigned...Am I dead?...Is This Heaven?
by RoyalsFanStuckInCardsLand on Feb 28, 2009 1:05 PM CST up reply actions
OH MY GOD!!
WE HAVE OUR #3!!! WE GOT IT BOYS!
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
This is just b/c I'm in a good mood now...
For you non NFLN’s:
Dude! Just the 2nd Rounder!!! WTF!!??
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
HOLD THE PHONE GUYS
we could still get another second round if we trade one of our guys. Or get comp for one of our RFA’s.
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
Oh my god!!
Just reported on NFl network.. Vrabel and Cassel for only our 2nd round pick!!..
Oh Pioli how could we ever doubt you.
I didnt doubt him
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
Hell yeah!
The Vrabel deal doesnt seem too shitty now, does it
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
The Pats shouldn't be too upset.
Our 2nd is the #2 pick in the second round (We flip each round with STL). It’s not like a late 2nd rounder.
NESilver, your thoughts?
"and peep this ethiopian queen from philly taking classes abroad, she studying film and photo flash focus record"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm.
NE is included in the deal and is coming over as a new Chiefs fan. :)
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
OK, then the Pats did get hosed if NE comes to us too. :)
"and peep this ethiopian queen from philly taking classes abroad, she studying film and photo flash focus record"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm.
by DThomasReigns on Feb 28, 2009 1:08 PM CST up reply actions
lol your right
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
I noticed that too when I checked it our yesterday.
AP is really outstanding.
"and peep this ethiopian queen from philly taking classes abroad, she studying film and photo flash focus record"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm.
by DThomasReigns on Feb 28, 2009 1:10 PM CST up reply actions
Still think we could've gotten more
Even if it was a late rounder or conditional, but we have plenty of draft picks as it is and now we have three in the second round. We might be able to package some picks to move into the first and make some moves, and we cleared up cap space.
You guys got the better end of the deal, but I’m not terribly upset. In Belichick I trust.
Peter King with interesting insight, for once.
And it makes sense.
My take: Bill Belichick either didn’t get a better offer, or he did one of his best friends, Pioli, a favor with a player Belichick wanted to put in a good situation; Belichick is very fond of Cassel. It would not be surprising to see Belichick make the deal with Pioli because both were trained under Bill Parcells, and Parcells always made sure he watched out for his lieutenants and helped them whenever it didn’t hurt him.
makes since
also needed that money off the books
Unlike GMDM I refuse to trade my EL CD avatar until Jacobs proves his worth.
Holy Shit!!!...Peterson resigned...Am I dead?...Is This Heaven?
by RoyalsFanStuckInCardsLand on Feb 28, 2009 1:14 PM CST up reply actions
They Did
They simply can’t take up a quarter of their cap space in one position with half of that spent on a backup who won’t be playing (if Brady’s healthy).
I tend towards the side that the Pats did this trade because they needed to clear salary and either nobody wanted Vrabel in the deal or he’s just fond of the players involved and decided to help them out. Who says Belichick is an asshole? :)
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
He has a soft side.
Of course, the media will never talk about it. That’s why veteran players love him, and a guy like John Lynch says he’s the greatest coach he ever had the pleasure of working with even though it was only for training camp/preseason.
Thigpen
Mike Florio is hearing rumblings that the Bucs are the mystery team and if they can’t get Cassel they might make a run for Thigpen.
Might Be A Smart Move
His trade value is not going to get higher than it is now if Cassel’s the starter. And if Thigpen leaves, I’ll wish him well down there.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
THERE HE IS!!
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
Huh?
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
You've been M.I.A. bro
All dirty
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
Yeah, we were looking for you last night.
I posted in your place. :)
"and peep this ethiopian queen from philly taking classes abroad, she studying film and photo flash focus record"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm.
by DThomasReigns on Feb 28, 2009 1:13 PM CST up reply actions
Sorry About That
I told my boss yesterday that I’m planning on leaving the company by the end of the year so I’ve been busy doing up my resume and started a job search. Might be MIA a bit more.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
Well glad to have your punk ass here now.
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
Thanks
And I’m happy the Chiefs have finally made a move I like.
Playing devil’s advocate, if I’m a Patriots fan right now I’m wondering what in the hell just happened and if my team just lost their freaking minds.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
Wow. You must be pretty certain to brave this employment environment.
Also, here was my hack at the ARGF yesterday. Not up to your quality, but I tried.
"and peep this ethiopian queen from philly taking classes abroad, she studying film and photo flash focus record"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm.
by DThomasReigns on Feb 28, 2009 1:17 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah it was pretty memorable
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
Guppy Friday Is For Anyone
So if anyone wants to write the post, I’m cool with it. It’s an AP inside joke so any of the APers should be able to write one. First come, first served, as far as I’m concerned. :)
It’s not so much that I’m super-confident in the environment as I just hate my job. It’s a great company, great people, good pay, and they do great work, but it’s just a horrible fit for me and it’s not going to get better. On the plus side, it’s something I’ll have several months to see through (I need to train a replacement because I won’t leave them in the lurch) and they’re very supportive.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
can you fight fire?
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
LOL?
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
I mean, LOL!
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
I've Never Done So Before
And I have no background in firefighting, so I’m probably not a good hire on that front. :)
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
You leaving banking?
Screw up the economy and then you book…nice ;)
Seriously tho, good luck. It’s not easy finding another job….been there done that, but I’m much happier.
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
I've Been Mulling It For A Little Over A Year
I’ve got job security here and we’re prosperous, but I don’t feel I’m contributing enough value to the company, it’s a struggle for me to show up every day because I’m absolutely miserable there and I think it’s probably reached a point where it’s time to find something else that I do love and will thrive at. Life’s too short to make yourself miserable for a decent paycheck.
It’s too bad, because it’s a great job and a great company, it’s just a terrible fit for me.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
I am in a similar situation.
I wish you the best of luck, man.
"and peep this ethiopian queen from philly taking classes abroad, she studying film and photo flash focus record"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm.
by DThomasReigns on Feb 28, 2009 1:27 PM CST up reply actions
It’s too bad, because it’s a great job and a great company, it’s just a terrible fit for me.
Been there and done that. I can absolutely relate. I left a job after nearly 10 years thinking I wanted a change in career. I finally got an opportunity I couldn’t pass up and although it’s trying at times I have a sense of accomplishment every day and the people around me are highly intelligent and supportive. Matter of fact, I just found out that I’ve been rewarded for last years work yesterday.
Hang in there. Life is too short. Find something that makes you happy and you’ll get rewarded in spades. Good luck again.
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
Yeah
Now it’s just a matter of figuring out where that is. Fortunately for me, I’ve got no wife and kids to deal with and I’m not carrying tons of debt. So I can go pretty much anywhere and do anything and I’ll be okay.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
If We Could Get A Fourth or Third Rounder For Him
I’d be ecstatic.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
+1
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
Seeing the way Pioli does things
I would bet he gets us our second rounder back.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Feb 28, 2009 1:16 PM CST up reply actions
You Know
If only he could package LJ and Thigpen to Tampa…hmmmmm.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
Tampa's In Need Of A Running Back
They dumped Warrick Dunn, Cadillac Williams is finished and they’re down to Clifton Smith. They’re a good trade partner.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
Talk about ROI
we sign him for a basement price then get a 4th? Id be stoked
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
Unbelieveable They Let Him Go That Cheaply
A second rounder for a guy with those numbers is outstanding, especially for one in his prime. Hell, we had to give up a first rounder to get an injury-prone Montana at the end of his career.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
true dat
if I were picking with our second rounder and Matt Cassel/Mike Vrabel were there…. kinna hard to hesitate huh?
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
The best part about this
No Matt Stafford!
"and peep this ethiopian queen from philly taking classes abroad, she studying film and photo flash focus record"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm.
+10000000000000000000
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
or Tim Tebow
next year :( :( :( Guess I’ll change my signature.
Tim Tebow.....concrete cyanide. Thanks jg.
funny but Stafford and Sanchez are probably seing their stock drop today
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
Heck ya
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
With our o-line
would he be the dirty Sanchez?:)
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
aohhaaaaaaaaaohhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!
I can’t believe this type of thing is going on here!! Good thing we renewed our tickets!
Now I'm Happy To Have Vrabel
I think we really ripped the Pats off. Who’s running that team’s front office now, Carl Peterson?
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
the 34th pick that is.
Not sure which team confirmed? The Chiefs or the Pats? It came from sexy Lindsay Soto’s lips.
Guys we aint rebuilding anymore
We are building a winner for many years to come!
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
Holy Crap
We got Vrabel and Cassel for that pick according to NFLN!!!
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
Yup
And I bet that Scott will make moves to get another 2nd rounder or even a late 1st…. Bye bye Tony? Bye Bye Waters?
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
Maybe, but we need a RB
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
For a 2nd or early 1st ? Nah
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
I hope we retain waters
we need help on the o line it wouldnt make sense to dump our best offensive linemen….. Unless it was for a top ten pick in the second so we could draft a younger guy to fill the void
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
Happy and Sad
I just want us to win but I like Thiggy. He is the only reason that last season was bearable for me. If he goes somewhere else I hope he gets to start and does well. I just hope he doesn’t develop into a super star. I may never be the same.
Paddy
jizz in my pants… i’m so happy… we still have #3 overall…. oh my balls… matt cassel…. guhhhh….. curry curry curry…. we’re going to be good soon… this is crazy…
Couldn't have said it better myself.
"and peep this ethiopian queen from philly taking classes abroad, she studying film and photo flash focus record"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm.
by DThomasReigns on Feb 28, 2009 1:18 PM CST up reply actions
he meant from 12 to 1am
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
Ha-ha!
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
Great now Brian Dawkins is gonna sideline our new QB twice a season.
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
thats not finalized yet is it?
Unlike GMDM I refuse to trade my EL CD avatar until Jacobs proves his worth.
Holy Shit!!!...Peterson resigned...Am I dead?...Is This Heaven?
by RoyalsFanStuckInCardsLand on Feb 28, 2009 1:20 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah it is
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
5 years 17 mil
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
Damn I'm excited
I can get rid of both my Viagra and Extenze!
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
My wife is even happy about this.
And she likes the Raiders. ( I know I know but somehow it works out)
Ew! How did you even agree on wedding shit??
Was her dress black?
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
Getting married on August 22
and I converted her to a Chiefs fan… And she’s hardcore… AND I call a lot of shots in our engagement… I even picked her dress.
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
Congrats
I would not want that responsibility. Only cloths I picked out for her was a Chiefs jersey, which she has worn I am proud to say. Although she did sneak in some Raiders socks. I do not mind… can walk over that team any day!
Ha-ha!
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
Yeah.
My wife wears my Chiefs stuff all the time. She is practically %100 converted.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Feb 28, 2009 1:34 PM CST up reply actions
Only if "I even picked her dress..."
is followed by “up off the floor” are you still allowed to hold your man-card.
by mynameistyler on Feb 28, 2009 1:59 PM CST up reply actions
Like the move...
I wanted Mack or Unger but you’re not going to get a better player than Cassel at #34. Now OT or LB?
I know the need for Oline but I agree
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
Yup.
Curry, DJ , and Vrabel… What!?!?
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
But he'll keep us in games
Offense was hardly on the field…/ 3 and out/ 3 and out
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
Realize...
This whole offseason I’ve discounted Crabtree for that reason. But with a legit QB locked up, our options open up.
That should
also upon up our trading possibilities now that teams can’t just write us off as just bluffing on taking Crabcakes.
As a Broncos fan...
I can’t believe the robbery you guys just pulled. Cassel and Vrabel for a 2nd rounder…wow. That’s an awesome trade for KC.
Excuse me while I go throw up a little.
"Some guys got drafted and they ain't played football in 15 years and I'm still waiting to get drafted. I'm still waiting to hear my name." -Rod Smith
hopefully twice this year you'll throw up a lot :)
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
Oh hell DTR
there is that sackable move!:)
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
lol
"and peep this ethiopian queen from philly taking classes abroad, she studying film and photo flash focus record"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm.
by DThomasReigns on Feb 28, 2009 1:23 PM CST up reply actions
Does anyone else appreciate the irony here?
It was due to the Chiefs that Brady went out for the season. Without that – Cassell would’ve never had a chance to show his stuff. Now, he’s ours – for a bargain basement price! Love it!
Haha!
True!
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
And both players (BP & MC) cost us 2nd round picks. :)
"and peep this ethiopian queen from philly taking classes abroad, she studying film and photo flash focus record"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm.
by DThomasReigns on Feb 28, 2009 1:25 PM CST up reply actions
You think if We didnt injure brady
and hired pioli that Pioli would bring Cassel over. He was an unrestricted free agent this season remember?
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
Man we are attracting a lot
of attention today! Donkeys fans, Raiders asshats, NE is here, any Bolts fans here?
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
Chris Mortenson is here also
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
add a Dolphin fan to the mix.....lol
Miami Dolphins 2008 AFC East Divison Champions
by HuskerDolphin on Feb 28, 2009 1:25 PM CST up reply actions
Is it just me, or is the sun shining brighter? The air a little sweeter?
I loved Bones, no question. And I think he’ll do a great job as a backup. But for us to have a guy who played that well, with all those tangibles, and the ability to lead a team like the Patriots, holy freaking crap. Plus we got Vrabel…FOR A SECOND ROUNDER? We still have the first round pick!
Ladies and gentlemen, the Kansas City Chiefs are back to being relevant!
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by Ridiculous Matt on Feb 28, 2009 1:24 PM CST reply actions
Matt it is cold and snowing here.
The NE weather brought Cassel here!
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
I know it's snowing here!
I just had to claw my way down Wornall to the bakery! Finding out we landed Cassel made my cinammon roll that much sweeter!
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by Ridiculous Matt on Feb 28, 2009 1:27 PM CST up reply actions
Of course I am four wheel drive.
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
lmao
"and peep this ethiopian queen from philly taking classes abroad, she studying film and photo flash focus record"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm.
by DThomasReigns on Feb 28, 2009 1:31 PM CST up reply actions
Not to bad.
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
Not bad on the main roads at all.
BUt it’s still coming down
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by Ridiculous Matt on Feb 28, 2009 1:30 PM CST up reply actions
Streets are terrible
My old man just ran his Land Rover into a pole.
by Joel Thorman on Feb 28, 2009 1:33 PM CST up reply actions
Well
Parking lots in Westport are terrible let me put it that way. Streets aren’t bad.
by Joel Thorman on Feb 28, 2009 1:34 PM CST up reply actions
Give Matt's login back you stealer of accounts!!!
j/k
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
Do not fuck this up Morty!:)
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
+1
"and peep this ethiopian queen from philly taking classes abroad, she studying film and photo flash focus record"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm.
by DThomasReigns on Feb 28, 2009 1:25 PM CST up reply actions
I need to get dressed
Yet another disappointing display by the England rugby team, not enough discipline.
Blame my wife!
Rugby is an
awesome sport. I live in Hawai’i and there are a lot of Pacific islanders here that play. I haven’t made the leap to rugby (wife wouldn’t allow it) but touch is fun as hell.
dude I live in Hauula how bout you???
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
oh I love Kane'ohe.... I didnt know any rugby leagues played there
I get mine at BYUH all the poly kids from like samoa and stuff go there but thats awesome Im glad Im not the only Chiefs fan from Hawaii
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
Pats fans on nfl.com forum are pissed.....
And in denial. They think TG will be added to the deal it’s just not being reported. Ha!!
Hmmmmm Two new Chiefs with money
UCrawford how about a Real Esate license?
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
Thigpen
I like the kid and all, but now is the time to deal him. If TB or someone is willing to give us a 3rd or even a 4th, why would we not do it??
And if we can use that as a way to help ship LJ out of town, all the better.
Man Vrabel and Cassel look awesome with our logo behind their heads!
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
What great news
I was at lunch when I saw DJ’s FanShot (yeah I check the site obsessively) and made a quick post. Thus…the lack of updates.
GO CHIEFS!!!!
What number will he wear?
I remember when Montana came over he couldn’t wear 16. Cassel’s number was 16 but so was Lenny’s.
Definitely won't wear 16
Whatever it is, it’s going to be popular!
/begins watch for Jersey on nflstore.com
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by Ridiculous Matt on Feb 28, 2009 1:34 PM CST up reply actions
That brings up a good point:
what jersey am I going to purchase this season?
Curry? Vrabel? Cassel? Someone else?
You think it's coincidence that I bleed red?
I'll give him 12 cause Brodie sucks
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'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
actually...
…If I recall, Dawson actually offered Montana to take his number out of retirement so Montana could wear #16 as well. Montana turned him down and wore #19 which I think is what he wore when he was in training camp early in the ’79 season.
This makes me wonder if a player like Housh would change his mind
and listen to a deal to come here now?
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
True
Wonder if it’ll have a ripple effect.
Though I don’t think Housh would be the guy we want IMO.
by Joel Thorman on Feb 28, 2009 1:34 PM CST up reply actions
Later fellas! Go Chiefs!!!!
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
So Thiggy, Cassel, Gray and Croyle
Whos the odd man out? We wont take 4 to camp will we?
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
True
I think we deal Thigpen…Croyle is good #3
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
Makes me less worried if we miss out on curry
Sure still would like to get him at #3 but its a whole lot easier for me to get pumped up about getting an OT to protect Cassel than thiggy (sorry to say, but its true)
Thing is
this draft is deep at linebacker. Even if we miss Curry, we can draft a defensive player and still be good. Not needing to take the best player available (QB) is huge.
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by Ridiculous Matt on Feb 28, 2009 1:37 PM CST up reply actions
I still think the top QBs in the draft woulda been a reach
If the O-line isn't built up, a rookie QB is gonna look bad next season. If the O-line is a lot better, Thigpen will win more next season.
QBs drafted in the top 5, back to 2001:
Michael Vick, David Carr, Joey Harrington, Carson Palmer, Eli Manning, Philip Rivers, Alex Smith, Vince Young, JaMarcus Russell, Matt Ryan. How many were worth that high a pick? You decide.
by Bleedingredandgold on Feb 28, 2009 1:55 PM CST up reply actions
@ #3, that is
If the O-line isn't built up, a rookie QB is gonna look bad next season. If the O-line is a lot better, Thigpen will win more next season.
QBs drafted in the top 5, back to 2001:
Michael Vick, David Carr, Joey Harrington, Carson Palmer, Eli Manning, Philip Rivers, Alex Smith, Vince Young, JaMarcus Russell, Matt Ryan. How many were worth that high a pick? You decide.
by Bleedingredandgold on Feb 28, 2009 1:55 PM CST up reply actions
It would certainly seem to narrow the pick down to OLine or LB
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
that may be the best part of this trade
Unlike GMDM I refuse to trade my EL CD avatar until Jacobs proves his worth.
Holy Shit!!!...Peterson resigned...Am I dead?...Is This Heaven?
by RoyalsFanStuckInCardsLand on Feb 28, 2009 1:38 PM CST up reply actions
That may be the best news of all
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by Ridiculous Matt on Feb 28, 2009 1:39 PM CST up reply actions
+1
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
I'm also
way more okay with us trading down with this situation.
We’re no longer bleeding at mutliple positions.
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by Ridiculous Matt on Feb 28, 2009 1:39 PM CST reply actions
Nah... We NEED Curry
We need 2 LBs Maybe even 3… We’re not sure about Vrabel… He’s declining.
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'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
Ok 2 LBs... Vrabel can play still.
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'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
Declining > Rocky Boiman
And let’s cool off on curry. He wasn’t hot until he showed off at the combine. He’s no sure thing. I’d love it if we drafted him, but we don’t NEED him.
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by Ridiculous Matt on Feb 28, 2009 1:41 PM CST up reply actions
He was a great player
no question. But there’s a reason he jumped up the draft charts because of the combine. I’m just saying, it’s something to note.
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by Ridiculous Matt on Feb 28, 2009 1:45 PM CST up reply actions
yeah man
what are you talking bout. We’ve wanted him #3 and now we’re scared he might even go 1 or 2. No question hes the best player in the draft
We have been talking about Curry on AP since before the season even ended
Unlike GMDM I refuse to trade my EL CD avatar until Jacobs proves his worth.
Holy Shit!!!...Peterson resigned...Am I dead?...Is This Heaven?
by RoyalsFanStuckInCardsLand on Feb 28, 2009 1:45 PM CST up reply actions
Hey
I thought he was top three, I’m right there with you. I’ve been reading AP. I just don’t think it’s good for us to get too sold on one guy with two unpredictable teams in front of us.
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by Ridiculous Matt on Feb 28, 2009 1:47 PM CST up reply actions
All I'm saying is
we have more good options than bad at this point. Not getting Curry would not be a disaster.
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by Ridiculous Matt on Feb 28, 2009 1:52 PM CST up reply actions
Well, now Detroit may be obligated to draft Stafford
cause they have no shot at Cassel
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'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
I wonder if they are interested in Cassel?
by Chiefsfan1970 on Feb 28, 2009 1:40 PM CST up reply actions
Rex Grossman has been in Lions talk
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'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
Thiggy is alot better than Grossman IMO
by Chiefsfan1970 on Feb 28, 2009 1:44 PM CST up reply actions
Yup!
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'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
I definately want Curry
now that we have Vrabel to bring him along
Unlike GMDM I refuse to trade my EL CD avatar until Jacobs proves his worth.
Holy Shit!!!...Peterson resigned...Am I dead?...Is This Heaven?
by RoyalsFanStuckInCardsLand on Feb 28, 2009 1:41 PM CST reply actions
I want Curry too
but I’d be happy with any of multiple good linebackers or a good offensive lineman. Especially if we lose Waters.
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by Ridiculous Matt on Feb 28, 2009 1:42 PM CST up reply actions
down with Pac 10 players!
/illogical
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by Ridiculous Matt on Feb 28, 2009 1:43 PM CST up reply actions
If by Wash you mean
several thousand yards, miles of talent and seven years.
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by Ridiculous Matt on Feb 28, 2009 1:51 PM CST up reply actions
O-V-E-R-R-A-T-E-D
Lewis is old and injury prone. Didn’t we get rid of Donnie Edwards?
by brn2luzchiefsfan on Feb 28, 2009 1:49 PM CST up reply actions
I love how on ESPNEWS
their bar isnt even scrolling… It just says… “QB Matt Cassel traded to Chiefs”
This is big
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'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
Okay, So your saying theres a chance.....
This was a very good trade if all we gave up was a 2nd round pick for Cassell and you I think will be the better assett Vrabel. Vrabel will be the on-the-field D coordinator for a team switching to the 3-4. This also is good, b/c if Cassell falls on his face in training camp and at the beginning of the season, which he will, it will not be a huge loss. If we took a quaterback in the 2nd round it most likely will be Josh “Mr. Erratic” Freeman. This also gives Thigpen a chance at a fair competition. B/C again Cassell will probably fail. Kudos on the Vrabel pick up. Hope Cassell suceeds. Just hope Thigpen does better.
by brn2luzchiefsfan on Feb 28, 2009 1:44 PM CST reply actions
Romeo! Romeo! ............................ WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU!!
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
awesome
"and peep this ethiopian queen from philly taking classes abroad, she studying film and photo flash focus record"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm.
by DThomasReigns on Feb 28, 2009 1:50 PM CST up reply actions
WHERE THE FUCK ART THOU?
"The quickest way to a man's heart is with my fist"- Chuck Norris
I loved Bones more than anyone.
But you don’t trade a second rounder for a QB that was franchise-tagged and then not start him. This competition is OVER today.
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by Ridiculous Matt on Feb 28, 2009 1:46 PM CST up reply actions
The competition isn't over
It’s just that the lead player has changed. Cassel becomes the probable starter, with TT getting a chance to win it if Cassel doesn’t bust butt to win it himself.
Starting a contract over a layer gets you guys like Croyle & Grbac.
If the O-line isn't built up, a rookie QB is gonna look bad next season. If the O-line is a lot better, Thigpen will win more next season.
QBs drafted in the top 5, back to 2001:
Michael Vick, David Carr, Joey Harrington, Carson Palmer, Eli Manning, Philip Rivers, Alex Smith, Vince Young, JaMarcus Russell, Matt Ryan. How many were worth that high a pick? You decide.
by Bleedingredandgold on Feb 28, 2009 2:01 PM CST up reply actions
Atleast Grbac won games and played in games
by CALIFAN1986 on Feb 28, 2009 2:30 PM CST up reply actions
Grbac had a defense
And an O-line to protect him. Perhaps you forgot those little facts?
You might also note that I did NOT say that it was Thigpen’s job to lose, but rather that Cassel gets pencilled in at starter, but that TT should get a chance to /compete/?
Or do you just have a man-crush for Grbac?
Cassel vs. Thigpen in Camp should improve the play of both.
Next on the need list: linebacker, and both lines
by Bleedingredandgold on Feb 28, 2009 4:04 PM CST up reply actions
Grbac had a contract.
Brokie didn’t make bank.
The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over. HSThompson
Croyle was still the Official Starter
comes to the same thing.
Cassel vs. Thigpen in Camp should improve the play of both.
Next on the need list: linebacker, and both lines
by Bleedingredandgold on Feb 28, 2009 8:00 PM CST up reply actions
I think Cassel has alot more upside than Cassel
by Chiefsfan1970 on Feb 28, 2009 1:46 PM CST up reply actions
Ummmmm
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'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
Lol
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
What are you drinking? :)
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
Cassel>>> Cassel
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by Ridiculous Matt on Feb 28, 2009 1:47 PM CST up reply actions
Cassel would kick Cassel's ass!
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
+1
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
lmao
"and peep this ethiopian queen from philly taking classes abroad, she studying film and photo flash focus record"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm.
by DThomasReigns on Feb 28, 2009 1:51 PM CST up reply actions
without us, you'd end up a Bronco fan :)
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
and all the men said?
He’s married!
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
Dude! The Cassel trade is so big Home and Gardening is reporting it!
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
MTV is cutting into MTV Cribs to report this shit
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
Nascar is reporting Cassel will out duel Dale Jr for favorite Driver (QB)
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
kc website link
confirmation from kc’s website -
http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2009/02/28/chiefs_acquire_qb_matt_cassel_lb_mike_vrabel_in_trade_with_patriots/
key here is no mention of future picks, conditionals, or mystery third teams
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Scotty
"I have a long history with both players," said Kansas City Chiefs General Manager Scott Pioli. "Mike and Matt are men that I respect both personally and professionally. I look forward to having them as new members of the Chiefs family."
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
I wonder if Tony is going to bitch if Cassell plays?
It was one of his “stipulations” to stay. Maybe he saw the Waters situation and realizes this org. won’t put up with individual desires.
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
Cassell Vs. Thigpen = GrBac Vs. Gannon
Haven’t we learned anything?
by brn2luzchiefsfan on Feb 28, 2009 2:05 PM CST reply actions
Don't you ever...
say that again.
Ever.
by mynameistyler on Feb 28, 2009 2:17 PM CST up reply actions
No, it's not.
Gannon proved himself over Grbac, but they started the money anyway.
Cassel did pretty well wit a good team, TT racked up some stats with a really bad team, but didn’t win much.
Now, if Cassel struggles, is injured, and TT comes in and wins, then they start the money anyway in 09, the comparison might have some merit.
Cassel vs. Thigpen in Camp should improve the play of both.
Next on the need list: linebacker, and both lines
by Bleedingredandgold on Feb 28, 2009 4:09 PM CST up reply actions
correction
Now, if Cassel struggles in 09, is injured, and TT comes in and wins, then they start the money anyway in ’10…
Cassel vs. Thigpen in Camp should improve the play of both.
Next on the need list: linebacker, and both lines
by Bleedingredandgold on Feb 28, 2009 4:10 PM CST up reply actions
Time to board the Bus to winning
You don’t want to come along—GTF off! That applies to Tony G, Waters, Pampers LJ, and anyone else who wants to bitch. It would be nice if we can grab someone on the D line then draft Curry.
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