Chiefs Trade for LB Mike Vrabel
by Chris Thorman on Feb 27, 2009 2:51 PM CST
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Adding to JayKC's FanShot about this topic (and opening up a new thread on it), the Kansas City Chiefs have traded an undisclosed draft pick for New England Patriots' LB Mike Vrabel.
A third round pick out of Ohio St. in 1997, Vrabel was converted from defensive end to linebacker when he entered the NFL. Vrabel played his first four NFL seasons in Pittsburgh before heading to New England in 2001.
Throughout his career, Vrabel played both inside and outside linebacker in the Patriots modified 3-4 defense. The addition of Vrabel may be an indicator that the Chiefs are planning to switch from a 4-3 defense to a 3-4 defense. The veteran Vrabel would be an ideal candidate to help the younger Chiefs adjust to a new defensive scheme.
Vrabel has 55 sacks and 11 interceptions in his career, along with one Pro Bowl selection in 2007.
The quality of this trade will depend entirely on what draft pick the Chiefs gave up for Vrabel.
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We dont do that here....
….that is near guppy-level shame…
by woodman212 on Feb 27, 2009 4:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
near
but not quite there.
yet :)
by Eastcoastransplant on Feb 27, 2009 9:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ah Vince, not you to!:)
Now can we get some d-ends?
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
by Eric Allen on Feb 27, 2009 2:53 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Huh?!
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by Eric Allen on Feb 27, 2009 2:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Gotta pick up the kids, later all.
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by Eric Allen on Feb 27, 2009 2:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Let's Hear What The Price Was
If it was a sixth rounder I’ll be okay with this trade. If it was a fifth rounder I’ll be not so cool with it. If it was a fourth rounder or higher I’ll be pissed.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
by UCrawford on Feb 27, 2009 2:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
7th Rounder
And I’ll say the Chiefs got a good deal.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
by UCrawford on Feb 27, 2009 2:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't agree with 6th
but am ok with 7th. Seriously, a guy at his age…what can we realistically expect in regards to performance and longevity. Maybe 2 years and maybe be more from an “assists” perspective.
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
by THE_TRUTH on Feb 27, 2009 2:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He'd be worth more to us than a 6th rounder
But a 4th would be too high. I’d say 5th or 6th.
by Vince D on Feb 27, 2009 2:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
You’re looking at an equivalent player of Barry Richardson. I’m okay with the Chiefs trading away that sort of guy for Vrabel.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
by UCrawford on Feb 27, 2009 2:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
My sentiments exactly
But we probably wont find out come the end of April
by KansasCityShuffle on Feb 27, 2009 3:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Good trade imo, still has plenty of gas left of a few more years
good veteran leadership, knows how pioli works and what will be expected of him.
by oldchiefsfan on Feb 27, 2009 2:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Help me!!
Someone please tell me the advantages to signing a 34 year old LB?
Did Donnie Edwards teach us nothing
South Side D
by doriang03 on Feb 27, 2009 2:58 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
He knows the 3-4 and is a veteran leader on defense
The Chiefs need that.
by Vince D on Feb 27, 2009 2:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
He’s the 3-4 version of Donnie Edwards, with half the injuries.
-cw
"If there’s a god he’s laughing at us and our football team." - Ben Folds
by webby37 on Feb 27, 2009 3:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Did he spit in your coffee, Jacin?
"If there’s a god he’s laughing at us and our football team." - Ben Folds
by webby37 on Feb 27, 2009 3:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude Jacin
you are way to negative.
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
by Eric Allen on Feb 27, 2009 3:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
When I see something to be positive about ...
I’ll change my tune.
I haven’t seen anything since the Pioli hire (which I was for) to make me think anything about this organization is going in the right direction.
by JacinB on Feb 27, 2009 4:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Out of curiosity
Why would the Pats trade Vrabel? He seems pretty valuable to them.
by Chris Thorman on Feb 27, 2009 3:02 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I've heard because of cap room
But I don’t think he took up much space (3-4 million)
"I can only imagine what it is going to be like in that town if we are fortunate to build a winner. You win there, you can sense that it would be something really special." - Todd Haley
by Jason Shore on Feb 27, 2009 3:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Mike Reiss speculates on the trade
by Chris Thorman on Feb 27, 2009 3:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
An actual comment from an NE fan on that page.
Anything less than the 35th or whatever it is (the Chief’s 2nd rounder) would be a travesty.
/tickled
-cw
"If there’s a god he’s laughing at us and our football team." - Ben Folds
by webby37 on Feb 27, 2009 3:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Teicher does the same
on Red Zone
"I can only imagine what it is going to be like in that town if we are fortunate to build a winner. You win there, you can sense that it would be something really special." - Todd Haley
by Jason Shore on Feb 27, 2009 3:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The same reason they cut Ty Law
he wasn’t going to perform at their expectations and he showed it in NY and KC.
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
by THE_TRUTH on Feb 27, 2009 3:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Why wouldn't they?
He has a few more years in the league max, might as well get something for him in return before he retires. Like UCrawford said in the other thread, his stats were down last year and I’m sure the player personnel & evaluators @ NE thought it was a good move
Damn, where’s NESilver been?
by KansasCityShuffle on Feb 27, 2009 3:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Right here!
I’ve been out all day (heading out again in a few). Sorry!
This is a good pickup for you guys. He had a “down year” last year, but the guy plays his butt off. That down year was strongly related to a shoulder injury he got, but look at his 2007 season and you can see what he’s capable of.
The guy plays ILB or OLB, as well as a little tight end (especially on goal-line situations). I’m gonna miss seeing Vrabel on the Pats, but it will make it easier to root for you guys.
by NESilver on Feb 27, 2009 3:06 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Yes, we like your company here
but I have a feeling you guys got the better end of the deal
by KansasCityShuffle on Feb 27, 2009 3:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We'll see
Unless the Chiefs traded something higher than a third rounder, I don’t think you guys got screwed over.
by NESilver on Feb 27, 2009 3:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
3rd round seems high
5-6-7 would be about right… unless there are other players in this deal ;-)
"I can only imagine what it is going to be like in that town if we are fortunate to build a winner. You win there, you can sense that it would be something really special." - Todd Haley
by Jason Shore on Feb 27, 2009 3:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ill give up anything on the second day i hate watching the draft on the second day anyways
by PSUkegreen on Feb 27, 2009 3:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
My apologies
I’m in a rush over here. I meant higher than a fourth rounder. Heading out, be back later.
by NESilver on Feb 27, 2009 3:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So you're saying now we can replace that Gonzalez guy?
"If there’s a god he’s laughing at us and our football team." - Ben Folds
by webby37 on Feb 27, 2009 3:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Makes me think we would have given up more than a 6th rounder
by Vince D on Feb 27, 2009 3:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
anything more then a 6th rounder would be a mistake ...huge mistake.
Period!
blu
by blu43 on Feb 27, 2009 5:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly what I was thinking
It must have been a relatively high draft pick.
by Chris Thorman on Feb 27, 2009 3:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
On Reiss' blog
One Pat commenter said it would be a travesty if the Pats got anything less than our second rounder for Vrabel.
by Chris Thorman on Feb 27, 2009 3:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He's a homer
No one would give up a 2nd rounder for someone who might only play two MAYBE three more years
by Vince D on Feb 27, 2009 3:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Damn, just put that underneath your comment!
"If there’s a god he’s laughing at us and our football team." - Ben Folds
by webby37 on Feb 27, 2009 3:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
On 810
I heard them say a “minor draft pick” what is that considered?
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
by Eric Allen on Feb 27, 2009 4:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
NE could be making room for Julius Peppers
…and we get Vrabel.
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
by THE_TRUTH on Feb 27, 2009 3:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Cap space
NE reportedly saved a bunch of cap space this year by getting rid of him. They don’t have much space this year as is, and he was destined to be a FA after this year anyway.
by Keyser Sose on Feb 27, 2009 3:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's probably it
He would have counted for $4.3 million against their salary cap.
by Chris Thorman on Feb 27, 2009 3:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
In that case
If I was them I’d be happy with a 5th-6th rounder
by Vince D on Feb 27, 2009 3:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Isn't that what the Patriots have done so well?
Why would the Pats trade Vrabel? He seems pretty valuable to them.
Isn’t that what the Patriots have done so well over the years? Get nice discounts from older vets coming from other teams that want to play for a winner and trade off their own older players that are getting paid too much while they still have value.
For the Chifes its a good pickup (if the compensation is reasonable) because we need veteran leadership on our young defense. I just hope we aren’t going to be trading away tons of draft picks for older players.
by ChiefDJ on Feb 27, 2009 4:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Linebacker
in the draft. Clay Matthews? Trade Cassel for Chiefs’ first and take Curry?
by SayHeyWerd on Feb 27, 2009 4:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Adam Schefter reports that Kerry Collins has reached a deal to re-sign with the Titans.
by jrodwoody on Feb 27, 2009 3:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
They'd probably be dumb-ish not to do that.
I’m not crazy about the guy, but he’s done a lot more for them than Chris Simms or that other guy.
Speaking of the other guy, he’s probably just under contract for one more year. Which Famous Footwear branch will he be working at?
-cw
"If there’s a god he’s laughing at us and our football team." - Ben Folds
by webby37 on Feb 27, 2009 3:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Haven't heard anything
Except crazy speculation about a deal involving Peppers for Cassel.
by Chris Thorman on Feb 27, 2009 3:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Reported on Patriot SB Nation
a guy I know (sorry, no link – just gotta trust me)
gave me this unconfirmed rumor:
Vrabel to KC starts off a few other deals. Cassell to Tampa Bay and Peppers to NE
that’s all I got.
by Jeff Clark on Feb 27, 2009 2:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
by ksjhwk on Feb 27, 2009 3:19 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
In case you needed a confirmation of the trade
Vrabel himself told Mike Reiss he had been traded.
by Chris Thorman on Feb 27, 2009 3:20 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
From what I've been reading
NE fans are pretty pissed about this. They are expecting a higher pick than a 6th, that’s for sure.
by Vince D on Feb 27, 2009 3:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
From what I read
Cassel and Peppers may be off the radar in separate trades. I thought Pioli wanted Cassel
by ksjhwk on Feb 27, 2009 3:22 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
No one know what Pioli wants. Several peeps are looking for them to
grab high named players, but he has said he isn’t going after them. He seems to be putting together good players that fit what they have in mind to do. Not necessarily the great players. Put together a team of good players and they could be a great team. Instead of one or two great players that don’t make up a good team.
by oldchiefsfan on Feb 27, 2009 3:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Kerry Collins resigns with the Titans
2 years, $15 million, $8.5 million guaranteed.
by Joel Thorman on Feb 27, 2009 3:25 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
i like kerry collins alot
good story
the performance enhancing drugs argument begins with lassic eye surgery
by nayjevin on Feb 27, 2009 7:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope he does well too.
"and peep this ethiopian queen from philly taking classes abroad, she studying film and photo flash focus record"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm.
by DThomasReigns on Feb 27, 2009 7:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The first look at this I thought you meant he "Resigned" from the Titans
not “Re signed”
by oldchiefsfan on Feb 27, 2009 3:31 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
OK, I just woke up from last night. What did I miss?
j/k :)
I hope we didn’t give up more than a 5th for Vilma, if that much.
"and peep this ethiopian queen from philly taking classes abroad, she studying film and photo flash focus record"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm.
by DThomasReigns on Feb 27, 2009 3:33 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Vrabel -dammit me!
"and peep this ethiopian queen from philly taking classes abroad, she studying film and photo flash focus record"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm.
by DThomasReigns on Feb 27, 2009 3:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought that too
"and peep this ethiopian queen from philly taking classes abroad, she studying film and photo flash focus record"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm.
by DThomasReigns on Feb 27, 2009 4:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wassup funny man?:)
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by Eric Allen on Feb 27, 2009 4:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
DTR.
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by Eric Allen on Feb 27, 2009 4:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What's up, bro?
"and peep this ethiopian queen from philly taking classes abroad, she studying film and photo flash focus record"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm.
by DThomasReigns on Feb 27, 2009 4:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Waiting on roster moves
like the rest, looking for a sackable move!:)
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by Eric Allen on Feb 27, 2009 4:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
lol
"and peep this ethiopian queen from philly taking classes abroad, she studying film and photo flash focus record"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm.
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by sexassassin on Feb 27, 2009 4:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think its very possible NE was going to cut Vrabel
BB called up Pioli and made this move.
Of course, this is just my speculation, but I think it makes sense.
NOW, before you guys get pissy with me for saying that, good, veteran players get cut all the time. Derrick Brooks is clearly superior to Vrabel, so I’m not trying to take a shot at the guy. NE is one of the few teams up against the cap, and they need flexibility if they’re going to consider keeping Cassel or picking up FA’s.
The Pats need every inch of cap room possible, and cutting and trading a player has almost the exact same consequences on your cap.
This is also why I think (and PRAY) it was a very late round pick, I’d guess 6th, I’m hoping 7th.
That makes it a great move for the Pats, trading what they were going to cut and potentially a solid move for the Chiefs. If its a 5th I’ll be dissapointed, if 4th or better, I’ll be nausious, and really surprised.
by kcsno56 on Feb 27, 2009 3:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Can we also pick up Brooks?
I know, our LB corp will be old. But come on, Vrabel and Brooks mentoring Curry….sounds good to me.
by Chiefs4Life on Feb 27, 2009 3:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He's been a 4-3 LB
But I’d take him, sure. And I’d rather be signing FA’s then trading draft picks.
by kcsno56 on Feb 27, 2009 4:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think it's more likely
that the Patriots didn’t want to extend his contract past next year, so they are looking to unload him while he’s still worth something. It’s possible Pioli discussed this with them while he was still on the Patriots, which means we probably got Vrabel for a pretty good deal.
by Vince D on Feb 27, 2009 3:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I like Vrabel
But if they were going to cut him, I think it was a bad move that we did not wait. I don’t mind giving up a 7th round pick, but why give up a pick on an old vet if he is going to be cut when we could have got him for free. Now granted I like the fact that we want a vet to help our defense, but even a 7th round pick can turn out to be valuable. Just look at Matt Cassel, he was a 7th rd pick and it goes to show that Pioli can draft late unlike Carl Peterson. The argument people have been giving to justify the pick saying if it’s a 6th round which would be equal to “Barry Richardson” it would be a good trade. But Barry Richardson was a Carl Peterson draft pick, not a Pioli late round pick. If we gave up a 5th round or higher, I’m going to be pissed.
by JZChiefsfan on Feb 27, 2009 4:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He wouldn't have come to KC as a free agent most likely
It’s better that we trade a 6th or 7th to ensure he comes here.
by Vince D on Feb 27, 2009 4:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Why not?
We have plenty of CASH and Pioli was his old GM. We would have been a perfect candidate. He already has his rings, so he would go to the money.
by JZChiefsfan on Feb 27, 2009 4:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Herm Edwards draft pick.
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
by Eric Allen on Feb 27, 2009 4:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You're right
But my point was no matter who we got, the Carl era sucked when it came to 6th 7th rd picks. Pioli on the other hand, Brady 6th rd, Cassel 7th rd.
by JZChiefsfan on Feb 27, 2009 4:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you
I’m ok with giving up the 7th rounder, just b/c it guarantees he comes here, but even if its a 6th, I won’t like the deal, he won’t be here when we’re competitive, he’s on the last year of his contract.
by kcsno56 on Feb 27, 2009 4:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
alot of speculation out there..that this is opening up a bigger deal for cassel…………..
chiefs get:
cassel
vrabel
ne 1st
pats get
chiefs first
and third
by kcchiefsfan56 on Feb 27, 2009 3:58 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Bad trade for Chiefs
Sacrificing draft picks like that for an old LBer and a back-up QB? No way.
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by BigBlueShoe on Feb 27, 2009 4:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think it's that bad
Vrabel doesn’t have as much mileage on him as other linebackers. He was a backup his first couple years in Pittsburgh. I think Pioli just wants a guy who can show the other linebacker’s how to be a proffesional.
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by jobe on Feb 27, 2009 4:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
oh the hypothetical....
…withdrawn
sorry BigBlue
by woodman212 on Feb 27, 2009 4:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What they're saying in Beantown
I live close to Boston and the local guys on ESPN radio are 1.) bumming that Vrabel is gone and 2.) think that Cassel will end up being tied up in the deal. They’re saying KC 1st/4th for both Cassel and Vrabel. Not my speculation, just reporting east coast radio.
by Screechief on Feb 27, 2009 4:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope not.
I really, really hope not.
As in, if that’s how this administration kicks things off (along with Haley’s treatment of Waters) … ? I’ll have to consider turning in my fan-badge.
by JacinB on Feb 27, 2009 4:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
A lifetime of fandom based on one trade?
Did Vrabel/Haley/Pioli run over your dog on the way to 1 Arrowhead Drive?
You think it's coincidence that I bleed red?
by Mully on Feb 27, 2009 4:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not a lifetime, really.
Only since they got Joe Montana when I was in High School. Before that, I was a Niners fan.
I’m sure I could float somewhere else (like wherever Tony G winds up) until they rectify things here.
by JacinB on Feb 27, 2009 4:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, weird.
Okay, nm then. Go float with Tony and I’ll keep your seat warm.
You think it's coincidence that I bleed red?
by Mully on Feb 27, 2009 4:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That said ...
Like, Tony, I’d much rather retire a Chief.
by JacinB on Feb 27, 2009 4:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Haha, we all do...
…it’s just a matter of degree
You think it's coincidence that I bleed red?
by Mully on Feb 27, 2009 4:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Just give it time
It will all work out soon. Well I hope soon but it will be fine Trust me
by Jay 23 on Feb 27, 2009 4:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
it cant be as worse as the herm era? can it/
by Red and Gold on Feb 27, 2009 5:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The hardest thing
For Veteran Chiefs players and well Chiefs players in general, is that while we lost (a lot) Germ was a players coach. They enjoyed (from all accounts) playing for him. Hell there was a pole done not too long ago (sorry no link) that said Herm was a coach most players in the NFL would like to play for. So going from that scenario (loosing included) to Haley, might be a huge smack in the face. Hopefully they’ll get used to it. Give it time is right. I say to our beloved Chiefs, give it time as well. First impressions aren’t the best…
So I hope.
by Eastcoastransplant on Feb 27, 2009 9:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Just to point out ...
1) Vrabel’s on the downside of his career and not really worth anything more than a 6th round pick at best.
2) Haley’s yet to prove anything, except that he’s an asshat.
3) Pioli’s yet to prove that he’s anything but another guy who was really good as long as he was working in Bellichick’s shadow and nothing special anywhere else.
( Though, that said, I fully support giving Pioli a shot here and I’m glad we got him. I’ve just yet to see anything to justify the unbridled optimism and blind following most people around here are granting him. )
by JacinB on Feb 27, 2009 4:30 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Man Jacin
just relax dude. You have not seen on the field results, and that is what matters.
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
by Eric Allen on Feb 27, 2009 4:32 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Not for me.
But, then again, I’m not a win-at-all-costs sort of guy.
by JacinB on Feb 27, 2009 4:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What do you want,
Last year showed you cannot win without competent coaching, and some veteran leadership.
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by Eric Allen on Feb 27, 2009 4:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes what exactly would be a good situation for you?
Would you be happy if they signed Romeo I know I would.
by Jay 23 on Feb 27, 2009 4:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That is probably in the works.
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
by Eric Allen on Feb 27, 2009 4:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd be alright with that.
He’d certainly be a major upgrade over anyone they’ve got on the Defensive staff now.
by JacinB on Feb 27, 2009 4:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The problem is, the new coach is pissing of our veteran leadership (see also: Brian Waters; and if Waters goes I’ve got no doubts that our other veteran leadership, Tony G, follows).
Beyond that, we’ve had Veteran leadership. We’ve had guys in the locker room to train up our young guys in the way they should go. Three of them got cut earlier this week.
Vrabel’s a guy on the downside of his career. He’s old; going to turn 34 before the season starts. He’s coming off of an injury to a shoulder, which for guys in his position, usually means more injuries to the same shoulder follow.
I just don’t see the value in giving up something above the 6th round for him, at all.
You bundle Vrabel with a guy who hadn’t started a game anywhere until last year and is getting a bloated contract because of the potential value he might’ve had to teams in dire need of a QB in exchange for draft picks — especialliy high, first round draft picks — and it’s not a good trade for the Chiefs and, in my opinion, it’ll look either like Pioli did some favors for his old team at our expense or got played for a fool by Bill Bellichick (neither of which bode well for him as a GM).
by JacinB on Feb 27, 2009 4:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And it could be Waters
is till pissed from losing two seasons in a row. He knows this regime does not like players talking to the media, could be Waters wants out.
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by Eric Allen on Feb 27, 2009 4:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You guys saw Hoosiers, right?
Remember how that turned out?
Just sayin…
by ChiefsDude on Feb 27, 2009 5:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Umm no.
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by Eric Allen on Feb 27, 2009 5:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
lol
What? You didn’t see it, or wrong sport? Coach comes to town, pisses everyone off until they start winning games. He destroys the egos, breaks the team down, builds em back up, and the underdogs go on to win the championship!!
by ChiefsDude on Feb 27, 2009 5:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
when its all said and done he's been with a loser for 9 years
winning seasons and no playoff victories amounts to not very much
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
by Lanier63 on Feb 27, 2009 5:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
well if that goes down
atleast we will have a starter penciled in for sure every game for the next 8 years and can actually take a snap under center.
by sexassassin on Feb 27, 2009 4:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
When is the next transaction coming?
Aaaaarrrggghhh!
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by Eric Allen on Feb 27, 2009 4:09 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Could have happened already....
…and we won’t know til they want us to…
by woodman212 on Feb 27, 2009 4:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You are right on there.
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by Eric Allen on Feb 27, 2009 4:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Major announcement coming ???
From a Pats blog:
Sources out of New England, have it pegged that’s there’s a "major announcement" involving this KC-NE trade coming at 6 pm EST tonight. Does the deal include quarterback Matt Cassel going to KC along with Vrabel? KC sending a player and possibly draft picks as part of the package? Or is it just the media having fun and messing with the minds of NFL fans?
HOLY CRAP.
by Keyser Sose on Feb 27, 2009 4:19 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
… about what, exactly?
Unless the deal includes, say, Tom Brady, I’m not seeing anything big to get excited about. Matt Cassel was a back-up for a reason, just like Damon Huard was.
by JacinB on Feb 27, 2009 4:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
If KC’s #3 overall pick is involved in this trade, KC would get hosed.
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by BigBlueShoe on Feb 27, 2009 4:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Cassel
Looking at last year, Cassel was much, much better than Huard has ever been. I think we should do whatever we can to get him here.
by MansGame on Feb 27, 2009 4:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
no more than our 2nd rounder though please
actually, i don’t even wanna give up that
by Vince D on Feb 27, 2009 4:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If we give up
our 1st and 3rd and get NE’s late 1st, then I think it would be an awesome deal to get Vrabel and Cassel. That is just a dream tho. I think were better off with a later pick anyway
by MansGame on Feb 27, 2009 4:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Brian Dawkins has agreed to a two-year contract with the Broncos.
by jrodwoody on Feb 27, 2009 4:25 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Oh shit, our recievers!
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by Eric Allen on Feb 27, 2009 4:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Per Adam Shefter
Free agent safety Brian Dawkins does not have a deal with the Broncos right now, contrary to reports. He is in the air and on the way to Denver right now. The Broncos do, however, have agreements with running backs Correll Buckhalter and J.J. Arrington.
by Clam Hammer on Feb 27, 2009 6:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Just signed 2 more
Denver signed Jabar Gaffney and Renaldo Hill (??)
by Nelly on Feb 27, 2009 4:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Argh!
I was hoping Jabar would come back to the Pats.
by NESilver on Feb 27, 2009 5:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds Like
Denver and KC are molding team after Patriots
by Nelly on Feb 27, 2009 5:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
REALLY!!
Awesome,We used to get all the washed up 49’s,Now we’re going to get New Englands,While we try to run off Pro-Bowl Guard,Waters!
Vrabel is going into his 13th year!
Whats wrong with Bart Scott,John Villma,Nevermind went to the saints!
I need to Bust up into 1 Arrowhead Dr. with my 360 & copy of Madden and show them whats up!
Vrabel,SRSLY!:(
by Bleeding Red on Feb 27, 2009 4:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
and Scott signed with the Jets
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
by 808NaNz808 on Feb 27, 2009 4:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
check it
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
by 808NaNz808 on Feb 27, 2009 4:35 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
#3 to pick up Curry
Maybe NE traded Cassel and Vrabel for the #3 pick so they can then target Curry
by Nelly on Feb 27, 2009 4:35 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I wish I was alive for this
Take us back Pioli take us back!!!
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
by 808NaNz808 on Feb 27, 2009 4:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
daaamn
we are sleeping right now and if we get cassel ill be ok with it but we need a defense
by sexassassin on Feb 27, 2009 4:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Would you be okay with it ...
… if we give up the #3 pick and our fourth rounder for him? I wouldn’t.
by JacinB on Feb 27, 2009 4:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Unless ...
It was a swap of 1st Round picks and a Fourth Rounder for Cassel and Vrabel.
by JacinB on Feb 27, 2009 4:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
no not at all
but if our entire plan was to get stafford then ya i would rather have cassel than stafford. Its not in my hands im just here for the ride pioli is in control
by sexassassin on Feb 27, 2009 4:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't want Stafford, either.
Or Sanchez. Or any of the QBs in this draft class. We need to hold out for Bradford, Tebow, or McCoy next year.
by JacinB on Feb 27, 2009 4:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Man!
These days players don’t even think take the time to see if there are better options.
by Nelly on Feb 27, 2009 4:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
jets are going to be pretty legit next year tough d and they got a run game damn
by sexassassin on Feb 27, 2009 4:48 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
More importantly
I’m wondering who the heck their QB is.
by NESilver on Feb 27, 2009 5:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
According to some speculating fans Vrabel may be going back
By clearing him for a time being, they clear up cap space and they can sign another person, then with the Cassel deal he will go back to the Pats..stay tuned
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
by Lanier63 on Feb 27, 2009 4:49 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Was it on here that a major announcement is happening at 6pm between the Pats and Chiefs?
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
by Lanier63 on Feb 27, 2009 4:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Supposedly.
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by Eric Allen on Feb 27, 2009 4:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
WTF?
We’re playing patsy to the Pats shifthing things around so that they can be under the cap?
What’re we getting for it? Bill Bellichick’s guarantee that he won’t run up the score on us the next time we play?
by JacinB on Feb 27, 2009 4:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
he couldnt run it up on us last time
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
by Lanier63 on Feb 27, 2009 4:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's because you knocked out our starting QB!
by NESilver on Feb 27, 2009 5:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, you guys started it! lol
Besides, with everything I’ve read about Croyle, it was bound to happen anyway right? ;)
by NESilver on Feb 27, 2009 5:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Lets wait and see what happens
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
by Lanier63 on Feb 27, 2009 4:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I have a feeling some crazy trade is about to go down
with waters or lj or tony some type of crazy out of control scheme
by sexassassin on Feb 27, 2009 4:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Could that be why Waters was in a uproar?
He is being traded?
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by Eric Allen on Feb 27, 2009 4:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude Jacin take a midol or something.
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by Eric Allen on Feb 27, 2009 4:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Great pickup for KC
Vrabel is a great player, one of my favorite Pats. As a die-hard Pats fan, it hate to see him go. I think the Pats did this for financial reasons; they have a lot of contracts expiring after this season. Varbel is the whole package – very smart with a motor that never stops; a great leader, and a top OLB who can also play ILB or tight end (great in goal line situations).
Losing Mike hurts. I wish him well in KC, and (I’ve always like the Chiefs, since Superbowl 1), I hope KC wins the West.
This could be a conditional draft pick for 2010. It’s hard to trade a top starter for a draft pick, especially since it won’t be in the top 3 rounds (or probably even the 4th). I wouldn’t be surprised if this is part 1 of a larger trade.
by Chuckjones on Feb 27, 2009 4:50 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Weird
Matt Cassel’s wiki page says he has been traded to the Bucs.
by Chris Thorman on Feb 27, 2009 4:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Supposed to read, CHIEFS!:)
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by Eric Allen on Feb 27, 2009 4:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
oops I spelled the team name wrong :)
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
by Lanier63 on Feb 27, 2009 4:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Lanier, invoke the power of the letter!
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by Eric Allen on Feb 27, 2009 4:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm trying to phone stuff in lol
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
by Lanier63 on Feb 27, 2009 4:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
oh crap Lindsay Soto is on and they just showed a full view of those fun bags
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
by Lanier63 on Feb 27, 2009 4:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Perv!:)
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by Eric Allen on Feb 27, 2009 4:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I know :)
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
by Lanier63 on Feb 27, 2009 4:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Awesome Perv...AP
"and peep this ethiopian queen from philly taking classes abroad, she studying film and photo flash focus record"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm.
by DThomasReigns on Feb 27, 2009 4:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
hey not a perv
just happy to be alive
by sexassassin on Feb 27, 2009 4:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Glad I'm not near my wife right now
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
by Lanier63 on Feb 27, 2009 4:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That is just wrong!:)
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by Eric Allen on Feb 27, 2009 4:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Keyser is on fire!
Lanier put him out!:)
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by Eric Allen on Feb 27, 2009 5:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's alright, she already took care of that for me.
by Keyser Sose on Feb 27, 2009 5:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh lord.
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by Eric Allen on Feb 27, 2009 5:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ok your rope has reached the end
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
by Lanier63 on Feb 27, 2009 5:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Boobies make life complete!
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by Eric Allen on Feb 27, 2009 4:56 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
it does for mine
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
by Lanier63 on Feb 27, 2009 4:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
anybody get a chance to see jackie johnson channel 9 she might only do cali
google that chick i call her jack my johnson she is hot
by sexassassin on Feb 27, 2009 4:57 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
chiefs trade
This team i thought was in the process of rebuilding and we trade a pick for a old man come on!!!If we trade picks for cassel and vrabel im pissed ,i would take curry over them guys easy!!!The defense is what needs help and now even more since were going3-4 talk about wasting a picks!!!Dorsey is not a 3-4 dt we do we do with him now lol it’s a joke!!we dont even have a defensive coordinator yet,we have all these new coaches and still the problem is not fixed our d-fense is still going to suck,and there going to try and fill the holes with has beens!!!!Keep the picks and draft some more talent!!!!AT LEAST HERM WOULD HAVE MADE THE D-FENSE BETTER HAD HE BEEN GIVIN ONE MORE YR!!!!!!And no im not saying he was a good coach but he could pick talent!!!
by CPT.Caveman on Feb 27, 2009 4:58 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Rebuilding is over apparently
Time to start winning.
by Vince D on Feb 27, 2009 4:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah he made the defense better
over his three year tenure, didn’t he?
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by Eric Allen on Feb 27, 2009 4:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
For the future he did unless we start filling hole’s with guys at the end of there career!!!I thought this team was getting rid of the old player’s and getting younger!!!
by CPT.Caveman on Feb 27, 2009 5:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Only his d-backs did shine.
who else is a superstar he brought in?
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by Eric Allen on Feb 27, 2009 5:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Will never know now
with the new 3-4 most of our picks at DL DE are junk now unless dorsey is moved to DE
by CPT.Caveman on Feb 27, 2009 5:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Tamba, Tank
what did they achieve?
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by Eric Allen on Feb 27, 2009 5:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Branden Albert appears to
be a solid pick, that is not saying much over three years.
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by Eric Allen on Feb 27, 2009 5:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Turk as well?
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by Eric Allen on Feb 27, 2009 5:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
GOING WITH THE 3-4 D WE WILL NEVER KNOW
They were wasted picks with the change
by CPT.Caveman on Feb 27, 2009 5:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not quite.
We’re only interested in getting rid of old Chiefs players (see also: Donnie Edwards, Brian Waters, etc.). We’re restocking with old Patriots players, apparently.
by JacinB on Feb 27, 2009 5:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Big Pickup!!!
Marbury going to the Celtics. Freaking Boston!!
by Nelly on Feb 27, 2009 4:58 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
If someone told me the year Pierce was drafted..
that he would have played on the same team as Garnett, Allen, & Marbury I would have thought they were referring to the All-Star team
by KansasCityShuffle on Feb 27, 2009 5:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope they implode
with his drama and the Cavs make it to the Finals!
by Ilamuku on Feb 27, 2009 5:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Collins
Did anyone here that Collins is staying in Tennesse
by Nelly on Feb 27, 2009 5:00 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I've never seen a trade happen in two parts.
Tim Tebow.....concrete cyanide. Thanks jg.
by Chiefho on Feb 27, 2009 5:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
its similar to getting married
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
by Lanier63 on Feb 27, 2009 5:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
One good reason I like this trade would be....
Of course this is going to piss off all the Unger and Mack lovers for our #34 pick but….
With the addition of Mike Vrabel, I think he would be the perfect mentor for a guy like CONNOR BARWIN. Connor is a converted TE, played DE his senior season, and will be asked to probably play OLB in a 3-4. Can you say Mike Vrabel part 2. The old can usher in the new.
by JZChiefsfan on Feb 27, 2009 5:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hands off Barwin!
He’s ours! At least, that’s what I’ve been hoping since he’s been dubbed Vrabel version 2 (actually, he seemed like a good prospect even before his stellar combine).
by NESilver on Feb 27, 2009 5:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well unless you guys take him at #23
I think he could be ours at #34. Unless you guys get the Bucs #19 for Cassel. Then we are fucked b/c Belichick has to love Connor. He is a total athlete, very versatile, and I want him to be in a Chiefs uniform as he is running trick TE goal line plays for touchdowns.
by JZChiefsfan on Feb 27, 2009 5:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
iI KNOW ITS A JOKE
Westart rebuilding a team and its halted in the middle of the process
by CPT.Caveman on Feb 27, 2009 5:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Herm was a soundbite.
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by Eric Allen on Feb 27, 2009 5:12 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Is that because he plays to win the game?
by NESilver on Feb 27, 2009 5:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep!:)
Did not see it here though.
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by Eric Allen on Feb 27, 2009 5:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ouch
only chiefs fans reserve that right…jk Herms a doof might as well let everyone enjoy his awesomeness
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
by 808NaNz808 on Feb 27, 2009 5:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Denver
Am I the only one that is getting a little scared about the Denver offense? Gaffney, along with Royal, and Marshall is pretty scary to me.
by Nelly on Feb 27, 2009 5:16 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Gaffney doesn't scare me
Their offense will improve though.
by Chris Thorman on Feb 27, 2009 5:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He makes plays
As a third receiver he makes plays. I remember Brady going to him quite a bit in key situations. By himself no but with Marshall and Royal, a bit because he will get open.
by Nelly on Feb 27, 2009 5:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly.
He won’t receive the majority of Cutler’s looks if he’s used the same way he was here in New England, but he’ll make the most important catches during crunch time. He can also line up from every wide receiver spot (X, Y, Z) and is a pretty good blocker on screens and such.
by NESilver on Feb 27, 2009 5:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm interested in their offense.
Josh McDaniels was a good offensive coordinator for us. The Broncos were also trying to mimic the Patriots offense from 2007 last year, and now they’ve got the orchestrator for it.
by NESilver on Feb 27, 2009 5:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
They have multiple receivers and a stable of backs
by Nelly on Feb 27, 2009 5:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We will hide Cutlers insulin!:)
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by Eric Allen on Feb 27, 2009 5:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't worry.
It has already been replaced with HIV.
"and peep this ethiopian queen from philly taking classes abroad, she studying film and photo flash focus record"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm.
by DThomasReigns on Feb 27, 2009 5:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
lmao. Yes, that will do. :)
"and peep this ethiopian queen from philly taking classes abroad, she studying film and photo flash focus record"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm.
by DThomasReigns on Feb 27, 2009 5:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Where is the big announcement!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111111111111oneoneoneone
Please, please draft a big Defensive Tackle. Please?
by skywalker on Feb 27, 2009 5:18 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I still don't understand why the Vrabel trade had to happen today.
Why today? We could have waited until the draft to do this.
Why is an older and declining, but smart, LB our priority move on the first day of FA? What is the point of rushing this? Were they really afraid some other team would trade for him?
"and peep this ethiopian queen from philly taking classes abroad, she studying film and photo flash focus record"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm.
by DThomasReigns on Feb 27, 2009 5:18 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Could be more to it.
You are right though.
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by Eric Allen on Feb 27, 2009 5:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
To show people that we want to win now.
First step towards the 3-4 A sign of things to come I hope.
by Jay 23 on Feb 27, 2009 5:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
There were better and younger 3-4 LBs available
"and peep this ethiopian queen from philly taking classes abroad, she studying film and photo flash focus record"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm.
by DThomasReigns on Feb 27, 2009 5:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and available in FA not requiring a loss of one of our draft picks
"and peep this ethiopian queen from philly taking classes abroad, she studying film and photo flash focus record"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm.
by DThomasReigns on Feb 27, 2009 5:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Did Vrabel?
Did we try? Money can solve a lot of that, and we have a lot we are required to spend.
I do understand your point though. BTW – Way to nest those comments. :)
"and peep this ethiopian queen from philly taking classes abroad, she studying film and photo flash focus record"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm.
by DThomasReigns on Feb 27, 2009 5:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i wonder the text that he got from
nfl net work about him coming to the chiefs he ment to say yiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiikees in stead of yes?
by sexassassin on Feb 27, 2009 5:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Pioli
may have wanted to give the fans something to mull (clamor) over. Or maybe this was an indirect way of announcing that we are running a 3-4 defense?
by JZChiefsfan on Feb 27, 2009 5:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Probably because the Patriots want the cap room for FA
by Vince D on Feb 27, 2009 5:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
There is something else going on that we don't know about yet, There are a lot of things that
don’t seem to add up. The Pats fans are saying just about the same things we are about this.
by oldchiefsfan on Feb 27, 2009 5:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Do we still have to give up two 1st rounders for Cassell
by ChiefsFootSoldier on Feb 27, 2009 5:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
And I’m thinking they probably just gave up a conditional pick for Vrabel, if he does well, maybe a fourth round and if he tanks then maybe a 7th round, conditional picks are the greatest
by ChiefsFootSoldier on Feb 27, 2009 5:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
i want to hear what clark is thinking right now
by sexassassin on Feb 27, 2009 5:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Why haven't I heard from Guppy?
Why did I quit drinking?
by CMatthews on Feb 27, 2009 5:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You ask why a lot!:)
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by Eric Allen on Feb 27, 2009 5:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and im also wondering if the sweater is so good that he is
secretly using pioli as a way to make the pats better sabatoge i tell you . So that the sweater can get the third pick
by sexassassin on Feb 27, 2009 5:36 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The hoodie?
AFC West Champs in 2009? Mayyybee.
by cmpotter on Feb 27, 2009 5:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope that's what he meant.
Sweater doesn’t sound cool at all.
by NESilver on Feb 27, 2009 5:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Weezer
“If you want to destroy my sweater”……..I mean hoodie…..pull this thread as I walk away.
by JZChiefsfan on Feb 27, 2009 8:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know if it's already been said...
or if you guys really care… but ESPN rumor central is available for non-insiders this weekend. Pretty sweet weekend for it too. Just a heads up.
by The DBowe Show on Feb 27, 2009 5:38 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
just go to their main page
there’s a banner ad over the main headline. it takes you to MLB, but you can just go to any sport and click rumors on the top bar
by The DBowe Show on Feb 27, 2009 5:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Rumor central as in...
Link to newspaper sites that already have outdated information.
by Chris Thorman on Feb 27, 2009 6:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
thats the one. Sorry, I knew I shouldn’t have even brought it up.
by The DBowe Show on Feb 27, 2009 6:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope he’s not stabbing Pioli and Haley in the back and babying Brian Waters, although I do respect B-Dubs, as the cool kids call him, Holthus. But why would Clark be sabotaging his own franchise??
by ChiefsFootSoldier on Feb 27, 2009 5:38 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Its probably a joke
AFC West Champs in 2009? Mayyybee.
by cmpotter on Feb 27, 2009 5:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No way to tell if you were serious :)
AFC West Champs in 2009? Mayyybee.
by cmpotter on Feb 27, 2009 5:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I guess that was a little harsh…my apologies
by ChiefsFootSoldier on Feb 27, 2009 5:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
clark was duped
maybe they knew that he was more concerned with his soccer team and that he doesnt know much
by sexassassin on Feb 27, 2009 5:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You know what that actually makes some sense….LOL
by ChiefsFootSoldier on Feb 27, 2009 5:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
hahah im fucking around
but probably is true
by sexassassin on Feb 27, 2009 5:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I know Bellichick is intimidating but come on
by ChiefsFootSoldier on Feb 27, 2009 5:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
This just in ...
We got Vrabel for our 6th and a sample of Brady’s DNA. If we can’t sign or draft a QB then we sure as hell can grow one.
by mooseface79 on Feb 27, 2009 5:42 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Would he take out Pollards knee?
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by Eric Allen on Feb 27, 2009 5:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He’d take out Pollards family…
by ChiefsFootSoldier on Feb 27, 2009 5:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If our 2nd is lost...
let’s get Jason Brown!
by Ilamuku on Feb 27, 2009 5:42 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
No way we gave up a second.
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
by Eric Allen on Feb 27, 2009 5:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not for an aging vet like Vrabel
AFC West Champs in 2009? Mayyybee.
by cmpotter on Feb 27, 2009 5:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
trying to think positive but.............
Damnit, I sure hope Pioli knows something we don’t!! Otherwise I would be convinced Carl Peterson is on the PA at 1 Arrowhead drive whispering about signing declining thirty-somethings to build a winner now……
"Every human is afforded the right to be stupid, unfortunately some abuse the privelage"
by SFCBurkhart on Feb 27, 2009 5:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
i ran out of positives when i found out about waters its been down hill since them
praying for some type of a comeback where is john harbauh when you need him
by sexassassin on Feb 27, 2009 6:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
A 3-4 defense seems to be one of those where you can just plug in different linebackers as long as they fit the mold, but yeah, I just hope they didn’t give up too much for him
by ChiefsFootSoldier on Feb 27, 2009 5:53 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Of course it is easier to “plug in” linebackers when you have a good defense…sigh
by ChiefsFootSoldier on Feb 27, 2009 5:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone know if Dewayne Robertson
would be a good fit as our potential NT? Why was he run out of Denver?
by Ilamuku on Feb 27, 2009 5:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I know Igor is there
but I was just wondering about others that might fit without a high price tag.
by Ilamuku on Feb 27, 2009 5:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
it's pronounced
Igor (eye-gor) :)
by mooseface79 on Feb 27, 2009 6:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Walk this way…Haha…Young Frankenstein or am I just a loser, or both??
by ChiefsFootSoldier on Feb 27, 2009 6:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Livin at the Ritz, halla ba louuuuouuuuuuuu-oooooo
by ChiefsFootSoldier on Feb 27, 2009 6:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Put..Ze..Candle...Beck!!!
Why did I quit drinking?
by CMatthews on Feb 27, 2009 6:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
man i just talked
to my dallas cowboy buddies at work and they are just laughing at us right now laughing out loud vrable vrable ??? thats all you got ?
by sexassassin on Feb 27, 2009 6:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Why don't you ask them how that trade with the Lions worked out last year?
by NESilver on Feb 27, 2009 6:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I should but when you only have 2 wins its tough to talk trash ahah
by sexassassin on Feb 27, 2009 6:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's pronounced "Frankensteeeeeen!"
"and peep this ethiopian queen from philly taking classes abroad, she studying film and photo flash focus record"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm.
by DThomasReigns on Feb 27, 2009 6:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Frau VLUKER, nnnneeeeeigggggggghhhhhhh
by ChiefsFootSoldier on Feb 27, 2009 6:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure
Cowboys fan should be laughing. They did choke last year!
by Nelly on Feb 27, 2009 6:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
true
but dallas is going to a new stadium and they have so much talent they dont even know what to do and every player is applying to play there
by sexassassin on Feb 27, 2009 6:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Jerry Jones reminds me of King George III
by ChiefsFootSoldier on Feb 27, 2009 6:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Jokes on you Tony…I was going to use his name in an offensive manner but I figure I probably shouldn’t…
by ChiefsFootSoldier on Feb 27, 2009 6:12 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Seems like the news has died down quite a bit
by Chris Thorman on Feb 27, 2009 6:13 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
When were quoting
Why did I quit drinking?
by CMatthews on Feb 27, 2009 6:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
what ever happend to that announcment pride
any news on that or did that happen already
by sexassassin on Feb 27, 2009 6:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What ever happened to Sammie Parker?
Does he still play in the NFL?
by Vince D on Feb 27, 2009 6:18 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
what ever happened to predictability?
…the milkman, the paperboy, evening TV…
by jbj8609 on Feb 27, 2009 6:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You miss your old familiar friends
Why did I quit drinking?
by CMatthews on Feb 27, 2009 6:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
But, waiting, just around the bend ...
Everywhere you look, there’s a heart, a hand to hold on to.
by JacinB on Feb 27, 2009 8:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
parker
top three things that guys doing ? bagging groceries , checking vrabels bags at the airport or working at kenny shoes.
by sexassassin on Feb 27, 2009 6:19 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
His teammate WAS at Cowboys training camp last year
by ChiefsFootSoldier on Feb 27, 2009 6:20 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Man fuck dallas i hate dallas
i knew they were doomed watching them on hard knocks when rowdey was running along side them at training camp it was like watching rocky train for clubber lang no focus
by sexassassin on Feb 27, 2009 6:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Risin up back on his feet, got his crack pipe, got ambition, he’s knows one day he just could become, released
by ChiefsFootSoldier on Feb 27, 2009 6:24 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
man we need some new or im going to go take a break and bang some hot chick yeeeeeeeeeesssssss
by sexassassin on Feb 27, 2009 6:27 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Is that why you’re the sex assasin
by ChiefsFootSoldier on Feb 27, 2009 6:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It just came to me, actually felt kind of childish at the moment
by ChiefsFootSoldier on Feb 27, 2009 6:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
NFLN
Talking TG…will be traded..prediction
Why did I quit drinking?
by CMatthews on Feb 27, 2009 6:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Sorry
typing while they were talking. Adam Shefter says TG will be traded
Why did I quit drinking?
by CMatthews on Feb 27, 2009 6:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Put TG and LJ in a package deal
then they can get the best and the worst of the Chiefs.
The grass is not always greener on the other side...
by Clam Hammer on Feb 27, 2009 6:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
did he speculate as to who with?
"The quickest way to a man's heart is with my fist"- Chuck Norris
by mooseface79 on Feb 27, 2009 6:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He just said
TG will be traded.
Why did I quit drinking?
by CMatthews on Feb 27, 2009 6:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
hes going to the brown for rogers if that happens then
ill still be pissed but atleast we will get some d but no one to throw to on offense unless we get tj that would make sense
by sexassassin on Feb 27, 2009 6:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It pisses me off too
It’s like an ex-girlfriend with another guy thing. But in a sick kinda’ way.. knowing that the ex will only be alive for a couple more years.
Is that wrong? :)
Why did I quit drinking?
by CMatthews on Feb 27, 2009 6:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
not really it would suck
but you know in the end tg will be back with a bust under the chiefs
by sexassassin on Feb 27, 2009 6:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
As much as I love Tony
He deserves a trade if he wants one and I’m excited to see what Brad Cottam can do
by Vince D on Feb 27, 2009 6:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
damn no one told me must have missed i
t fuck thats really bad news now my day is completely shot fuck
by sexassassin on Feb 27, 2009 6:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
dude
i went to sleeplast night like christmas morning was coming and it turned out to be d day fuck
by sexassassin on Feb 27, 2009 6:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
this could be good news but jason brown ravens and james butler giants
meeting witht the lambs
by sexassassin on Feb 27, 2009 6:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
where’s the talk about “TG will be traded”? I can’t find any news about this.
by jbj8609 on Feb 27, 2009 7:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Adam Schefter
said it on NFL Network. He didn’t say it was fact, but in almost the same way he said Shannahan wasn’t coming to KC, he said ony Gonzalez will be traded.
Why did I quit drinking?
by CMatthews on Feb 27, 2009 7:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, it’s all going to hell now isn’t it…unless get something decent for him
by ChiefsFootSoldier on Feb 27, 2009 6:31 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Ohh, crap, just got a drain call to go on, sweet….I guess I’ll talk to you all later, have a good weekend
by ChiefsFootSoldier on Feb 27, 2009 6:33 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
http://blogs.nbcsports.com/home/archives/2009/02/quiet-on-the-patskc-front-coul.html
My speculation? Since Vrabel is only in KC and his acquisition hasn’t been officially declared, he is merely a sidebar in the deal. The holdup – and silence – is being caused by something else that’s taking place and my guess is that the something else is negotiations between Matt Cassel’s agent David Dunn and the Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
Cassel, of course, is the franchised Patriots quarterback who’s due to make $14.6 million this year if he stays with the Patriots. If New England deals Cassel, he comes off their books, clearing cap space.
And that has me thinking the undisclosed pick is the third overall pick in this draft.
by patsfan9928 on Feb 27, 2009 6:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
ARE YOU KIDDIN ME!!
If we give up our #3 pick for Cassel,im pissed!!!Tyler did just fine with our offense it was the d-fense that needed the help.With the #3 pick we should take Aaron curry how can you go wrong with him !!!Now we are changing to a 3-4 d-fense and all of our DT’S and DE picks for the last to yr’s are wasted!!!!Dorsey cant play DTin a 3-4 d-fense he’s to small,but by all means lets make sure we help the patriots make some cap room!!!!!!!!!!!i have a bad feeling about the draft and whet kind of d-fense we are going to have this yr!!
by CPT.Caveman on Feb 28, 2009 1:12 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You really need to calm down, Caveman
And start thinking positive. Always look on the bright side of life. Jerod Mayo last year wasn’t supposed to go in the first but he did because Pioli and Belichick saw the potential in him. Curry’s great. I agree, but we can find someone that can fit the scheme right off in the 2nd, 3rd, even 4th rounds…we just need to trust that Pioli is good at what he does. He’s heading up the guys that will be on the defense and the scheme used and that is his specialty. We should stop worrying so much and let him do his job.
There's no hope with dope...
by chrisjo07 on Feb 28, 2009 1:55 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
daamn sad sad news if thats true
wow that sad im sad now
by sexassassin on Feb 27, 2009 6:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The Patriots don't freaking deserve the #3 overall pick
I will officially disapprove of Pioli if he trades it away for a QB who had one good year
by Vince D on Feb 27, 2009 6:53 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I still feel,
with an offseason focused on Thigpen, we would end up with a good QB… QBOTF? IDK. Better than Cassel? IMHO, Yes!
I believe the Pats offense made Cassel and also makes Brady look better than he is.
Why did I quit drinking?
by CMatthews on Feb 27, 2009 6:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This post has...
…too many acronyms. ;p
by jbj8609 on Feb 27, 2009 6:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ah-i's just givin you shit. ;) carry on...
by jbj8609 on Feb 27, 2009 7:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
cassel
it would be funny if we actually did trade for cassel, and he was the QBOTF and everyone that was hating on him would have to eat their words. not that i think he is.
by Red and Gold on Feb 27, 2009 8:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yep i don't think people were all that excited
when we used a first round draft pick on trent green but it worked out pretty well
by Vince D on Feb 27, 2009 8:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ya thats pretty tough
no way he does that then again cassel could be that guy . Im not making an excuse im just trying to see the bright side
by sexassassin on Feb 27, 2009 6:56 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah but not for #3 overall
a 2nd rounder this year and a conditional pick next year based on performance is more fair
by Vince D on Feb 27, 2009 6:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ya atleast cassel isnt old
like if where like a rich gannon i would be pissed but hes pretty young and he can maybe pull off some nice stuff with our new offense
by sexassassin on Feb 27, 2009 6:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i just don't wanna give the #3 pick to a team that is always in the playoffs anyway
they don’t freaking need it
by Vince D on Feb 27, 2009 6:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
cuz right now this has to be the lowest day that i can remember we lost out on every
big free agent unless we get tj and our front office looks like clown our vets want to be traded all in one day this blows.
by sexassassin on Feb 27, 2009 6:58 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
comment from patriots board
The reason I am nervous about this deal is because Scott Pioli is on the other end of things here. I know a lot of people are saying that the Pats make the right moves most of the time, but that’s when Pioli was on OUR side of the table. I don’t see the Patriots getting the upper hand in a deal with Pioli.
by kc571 on Feb 27, 2009 7:03 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Meh
I don’t think either side is fighting to get the “upper hand.” Pioli and Belichick know each other too well for that. If the deal isn’t mutually beneficial, it simply won’t go through.
by NESilver on Feb 27, 2009 7:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
what is beneficial in pioli's mind is not what's beneficial in the fans mind
which may end up being a good or bad thing depending on how it works out
by Vince D on Feb 27, 2009 8:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
another good post
The simple fact is that Vrabel is more valuable to Kansas City right now than he is to New England. He has lost a step in recent years, and while he is a consumate professional and a great leader he is on a team full of consumate professionals and leaders. The defense needs to get younger and faster, and that means some of the older players who aren’t quite getting it done anymore are going to be gone.
Kansas City gets a great leader for their young team (youngest in the NFL last season, if I remember correctly). They aren’t in a position to challenge for a title this year, so they aren’t looking for Vrabel to be an All-Pro caliber talent. They need him to help establish a foundation of winning and a strong work ethic, which he is perfectly suited to do. In my eyes that makes this trade a win-win for both sides, as the Patriots clean up some cap space and get a draft pick, while KC gets a strong veteran voice to help build a woeful franchise from the bottom up.
by kc571 on Feb 27, 2009 7:11 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
That makes sense
I hope it is a 7 maybe a 6.
by Jay 23 on Feb 27, 2009 7:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
ya, pioli said so himself, he wants to build a team for the future, not jsut for 2010, or 2011, but for the next, oh, say, 10 years or so.
by Red and Gold on Feb 27, 2009 8:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
TG & LJ to Philly
They have two 1’s so we relieve the of of their 2nd and 5th
by FrankPitts on Feb 27, 2009 7:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Wouldn't do it.
LJ, yes. I’d give him to whoever will take him for pretty much whatever they offer.
They’d have to pry the rights to TG from my cold, dead hands.
by JacinB on Feb 27, 2009 8:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Pats fans opinion
here is the quote:
“Pats Fan
Submitted by Mike on February 14, 2009 – 8:48pm.
First Off; Best Thing KC Chiefs have ever done is Hire Pioli. #1 Pioli will not draft a receiver in the first rd. especially at #3. #2 He will start to build a Championship Defense right away. Do not get upset when you feel he is making the wrong Move. We Lost Ty Law, Lawyer Milloy. Very Popular Drew Bledsoe The Bledsoe vs Brady debate went on forever. Willie McGinest, Adam Vinitieri, Deon Branch, and others. Pioli Knows more than all of you fans put together. He is the best Talent Evaluator in the NFL. The term IN BELICHICK WE TRUST. also includes PIOLI. I have never seen a GM get it right more times than not. Peterson was a joke! Now I agree with Broker 1 Cassel vs Thigpen no Comparison. If there is a one year wonder it was Thigpen, who was average at best. Patriots had Injuries to their Vaunted O-Line all year starting Gaurd did not join the Team until week 8 the Tackles were hurt all year. They lost starting RB Maroney after 3rd game. lost 2nd and 3rd RB’S for 8 games each. Cassel played with a 4th string walk-on RB most of the season. Every Defense made Cassel try and beat them with the running game They took away Moss all year. What Cassel did was Amazing. Our Defense was hurt all season, we had 2 rookies start at cornerback no Rodney Harrison,We had to bring back Seau and Colvin, because the linebackers were out for the season. I hope Cassel goes to Minnesota, so he can get to the Super Bowl. I GAURANTEE Chief fans that don’t want Cassel will regret it. Mel Kiper says Cassel much better than Stafford or Sanchez. Steve Mariucii says Cassel is Fantastic, and Pats Deserve at Least a 1st in the top ten and a second. Mike Lombardi says maybee two first round picks. These people do this for a living. OH! also ask Tom Brady, Carson Palmer, Matt Leinart and USC coach Pete Carrol what kind of Competitor Cassel is.”
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by JChief on Feb 27, 2009 9:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
ARE YOU ON CRACK
the patriots o-line is alot better than the chiefs cassel would have sucked here and will suck with no o-line in front of him if he does come!!!The chiefs lost 7 games by 7 points and the d-fense is what cost us those games!!!why bring him here to get killed behind a subpar o-line at least tyler thigpen did a good job with what they had!!!We should stick with thigpen this yr,draft aaron curry with the number 3 pick how can you pass on a guy like him……………..can you remember derrick thomas i can and i think aaron curry will make a impact right away!!!!!We could draft a qb in the later rounds,which MR PIOLI IS SUPPOSE TO BE GOOD AT !!!!!!!
by CPT.Caveman on Feb 28, 2009 1:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
just a fact
Pioli is Bill Belichicks son in law, family, look it up. Pats fans thank you for your business.
by arrowhead informant on Feb 27, 2009 11:03 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I believe
that Pioli is Bill Parcell’s son-in-law… Not Belichick’s.
by Clam Hammer on Feb 27, 2009 11:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Pioli has never given up much for a QB, and why should all of a sudden be trusting Pats fans anyway??
by ChiefsFootSoldier on Feb 28, 2009 12:13 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
As long as...
He doesn’t turn out to be another donnie Edwards (good player that was well past his prime) then I’ll be happy
by Bearson on Feb 28, 2009 10:19 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
VRABEL!!!!!!!!!!!!! AWSOME!!!!!!!
Who better to teach Arron Curry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by howlingwolf on Feb 28, 2009 10:51 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Today's developments make Brian Waters look like a dumb ass.
“Boo hoo! The coaches wouldn’t talk to me or let me in on their plans. Waaaaah!”
It turns out the staff couldn’t talk to you because THEY WERE BUSY UPGRADING THE TALENT ON YOUR TEAM, ASSHOLE! (Sorry about the all caps, I was going for a Lewis Black-style rage thing.)
by Rev. Slappy on Feb 28, 2009 1:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
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