New England’s Pro Bowl linebacker Mike Vrabel is in Kansas City undergoing a physical so that he can then be traded to the Chiefs. General Manager Scott Pioli is reaching out to bring in a player familiar with his system, and New England is a willing trade partner.
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oh hell no
we better not be trading Brian Waters for him, this guy is old. I think this is where LJ takes his leave maybe Vrabel and a fifth will suffice
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
Pats just got Fred Taylor
Why would they want LJ?
by Joel Thorman on Feb 27, 2009 1:32 PM CST up reply actions
I didnt know that.... take that back then
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
ok thats enough to
sell cracker jacks in the stands he might have some legs for the steps. But if he was 34-35 that is parking lot attendant light walking alot of baton waiving. and if you are carney or mortenson or seau you are ripping tickets at the door really limited work.hahah
Coming Off A Bad Year
I think Rotoworld said it best…they were surprised anyone gave up a draft pick for him.
God, I hope it wasn’t anything above a sixth rounder…fifth rounder max.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
Jay
One of these days we’re going to beat you to a FanShot. Nice work.
H/T to 3rd Coast Chief as well for the FanPost.
PT
Thanks. I’ll look forward to the competition. :)
"I can only imagine what it is going to be like in that town if we are fortunate to build a winner. You win there, you can sense that it would be something really special." - Todd Haley
You guy are fast
I just seen that on tv
by A true chiefs fan on Feb 27, 2009 1:33 PM CST reply actions
Maybe we can
get a deal to get Cassel to?
by A true chiefs fan on Feb 27, 2009 1:35 PM CST reply actions
WTF!?
I don’t want to trade any draft picks for a guy who can play for us the next, what, 2 seasons?
I’m growing increasingly dissatisified
by KansasCityShuffle on Feb 27, 2009 1:35 PM CST reply actions
As long as they didn't give up better than a 4th rounder for him I'm fine with it
Our defense hasn’t had a leader since Derrick Thomas. If Vrabel can fill that void for a few years and let some of our other young guys develop, I’m all for that.
I bet they bring in more vet FA linebackers
Thats what the Patriots did for so many years, draft young players all around but keep vet LBs as the core. We might fill out the LBs in free agency and not draft a single one.
FWIW
Vrabel is already listed as a Chief on Wikipedia!
Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com
Really
I don’t even want him on my Madden roster..
by KansasCityShuffle on Feb 27, 2009 1:39 PM CST up reply actions
I went to college with Vrabel
He was quite the party animal. I even ran into him a few years ago at a OSU/Michigan game and he was pretty hammered.
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Some more info on Vrabel, His salary is set at $2.2 million currently
- Over 11 NFL seasons, Vrabel has recorded 614 tackles (417 solo), 51 sacks, 10 interceptions for 68 yards and a touchdown, 31 passes defensed, 15 forced fumbles and six fumble recoveries.
- Vrabel has recorded 10 career receptions in regularseason and playoff games, all going for touchdowns. He has caught eight passes for 11 yards and eight touchdowns in the regular season and two passes for three yards and two touchdowns in the playoffs.
- Since joining the Patriots in 2001, Vrabel has recorded 12 regular-season strip-sacks (four in 2003, one in 2005, three in 2006 and four in 2007) while adding three more in the playoffs (one in 2003, 2004 and 2006).
- Vrabel earned his first career Pro Bowl selection in 2007 and recorded 12.5 sacks, the most by a Patriots player in 20 years, dating back to Andre Tippett’s 12.5-sack season in 1987.
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
When was the last time you saw a player-for-player swap in the NFL?
Its almost certainly for draft picks.
Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com
by RoyalsRetro on Feb 27, 2009 1:41 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Sexassassin that would be one idiotic move
Here let’s give away all of our star players for a qb who is still relatively unknown, and a 3rd rounder who could be a bust..Makes a ton of sense
by CALIFAN1986 on Feb 27, 2009 3:06 PM CST up reply actions
and besides
lj dont want to be here tony dont want to be here and waters dont want to be here ya its a dumb move but at the end of the day i would want players that want to be here.
As long as we didn't give up much
I’m okay with this. Vrabel is a good LB. Of course, so is Donnie Edwards…
Vrabel is in better form than Edwards
but I have to say if we’re gonna make a move like this I would have rather kept Edwards. I was worried about Pioli granting NE favors and thats what this move looks like to me
by KansasCityShuffle on Feb 27, 2009 1:44 PM CST up reply actions
It will be nice to have a veteran linebacker that knows the system though
Especially if we find a way to bring in Crennel as our DC.
I looked back at my Post "Lets Have Some Fun"
concerning when we would have news about a signing and 8 people picked Noon to 4pm today.
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
true, but I am not gonna get that picky
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
Its news afterall...lol
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
I have removed my signature calling for JL to be drafted as a defensive leader now
funny thing is, Vrable is from Ohio State
where many said doesn’t produce good linebackers.
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
Maybe JL
should have thought of his name when be interrogated by Saints coaching…
by KansasCityShuffle on Feb 27, 2009 1:47 PM CST up reply actions
Pre med major too
I guess he didn’t think he would make it to the NFL?
by Chris Thorman on Feb 27, 2009 1:47 PM CST up reply actions
Why aren't we trying to get Vilma?
We have Gary Gibbs now, why don’t we make him useful?
How do we know we're not?
I’m sure they’re talking to lots of players. Nobody knew they were talking to Vrabel until he came to KC for his physical.
Yes
I mentioned it earlier. It was ESPN that said it then too.
by Chris Thorman on Feb 27, 2009 1:48 PM CST up reply actions
With our ultra secretive CIA ops @ Arrowhead
we wont find out what draft picks until the end of April
by KansasCityShuffle on Feb 27, 2009 1:45 PM CST reply actions
A 5th would be a good trade, I'll admit it
anything lower he’s not worth
by KansasCityShuffle on Feb 27, 2009 1:46 PM CST up reply actions
I'd be satisfied with a 4th I think
As long as we got 3 years out of him.
I think we can get 3
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
You dudes are commenting like crazy already! Ha-ha!
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
Gooo!
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
He's not Junor Seau
And he’s a great tackler.
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
I posted some stats above
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
Not bad man.
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
4th is great
Read the article—they make a great point that he’s not going to really be a player as much as he’s going to coach on the field. We’re moving from one defensive system to another completely different system. I, for one, would feel good devoting a player to making the transition that much better.
-cw
"If there’s a god he’s laughing at us and our football team." - Ben Folds
Hey, that's what we need.
A bunch of guys who can’t coach defense on the sidelines, and one less player on the field because, instead of playing, he’s telling the other guys what they should be doing.
Recipe for success right there, I tells ya.
Uh, no.
I wanted to either keep Herm or know that we were upgrading when we let him go. As near as I can tell, we didn’t.
Then we cut a bunch of guys who weren’t very good at doing their job and replaced them with a bunch of guys who were equally bad at doing their job, if not worse.
The only person on the coaching staff I’ve got any confidence in right now is Chan Gailey, and it’s up in the air whether or not anyone’s even going to pay any attention to what he says next season because, for all we know, Haley’s going to call the plays on offense himself.
Now, we’re taking a spot on the field up with a guy who’s going to be, essentially, an assistant coach and is well past his productive years. If we’re doing that, why not keep Surtain? Or, resign Ty Law?
Getting old players who are well past their prime just because they know the system or can bring experience to the locker room or can fill a need is what Carl Peterson used to do a lot of. Seems to me that a lot of people around here wanted him gone. If we’re going to do things the exact same way he used to do them, why’d we bother firing him in the first place?
[W]e cut a bunch of guys who weren’t very good at doing their job and replaced them with a bunch of guys who were equally bad at doing their job, if not worse.
First off, how do you know they’re “equally bad at doing their job, if not worse”?
Now, we’re taking a spot on the field up with a guy who’s going to be, essentially, an assistant coach and is well past his productive years. If we’re doing that, why not keep Surtain? Or, resign Ty Law?
It’s not unusual for teams to go after veterans who have a knowledge of the game (or a system), even if they’re past their prime. Wanna talk about past their prime? Look up Surtain, or worse, Law, and compare them to Vrabel’s rap sheet. Vrabel would have been the #2 linebacker last year in tackles on KC. I’ll take his busted booty here over Pat Thomas (no disrespect) any day.
-cw
"If there’s a god he’s laughing at us and our football team." - Ben Folds
One more thing
I feel like this on the condition that it is a 6th or 7th rounder. That’s awesome! 5th, meh, ok I guess. 4th… hmmm, I’ll trust it. Greater than that, keep the receipt!
-cw
"If there’s a god he’s laughing at us and our football team." - Ben Folds
Uh, stats?
Go look up the stats on the defenses that our new defensive staff members ran and tell me how they stack up compared to Gunther and his crew.
Uh, find 'em?
That’s my point—gimme something that I can hold on to. I’m ready to be converted. But I ain’t hearing it.
-cw
"If there’s a god he’s laughing at us and our football team." - Ben Folds
Actually Pendergast And Gibbs Were Better Than Gunther Last Year
Hopefully, though, they really are bringing in Crennel because I don’t really want either of those guys running the D. They’re marginal upgrades at best.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
Hey Now
Attack the argument, not the person.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
And JacinB Brings Up Some Valid Points
Personally, I’m not thrilled with us grabbing Vrabel either. He’s an old player, coming off a bad year and he appears to be a situational player, not an every down guy. What’s to like about this? His name? The fact he used to play for the Patriots? So what if he’s not going to produce like that in the future?
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
I'm not so hot on this either...and it'll depend on what we gave up.
If this is “pay the guy based on past performance” instead of “future potential” attitude, than it’s deja vu all over again.
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
Leadership
is what he brings to the table. He knows the system. The coaches are not allowed on the field and in the huddle during a game. If the guys have questions Vrabel will be able to help them out and give them advice on the fly. I like this move.
Yes, they are.
Defensive players get to have a mic in the helmet now, too. Effectively, that puts the coach on the field.
Very true
and who do you think will be wearing the head set? Vrabel. Who will be asking questions or need some on the fly mentorship? The other 10 guys.. thats who.
I Think Vrabel Would Probably Be Fine In That Role
Only, though, if he’s an every down back. Right now, the consensus among the pundits seems to be that he’s more of a situational guy and that means he’s unlikely to be the helmet guy.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
He's An Old Player
As the original LT said, legs are the first things to go for linebackers. Makes it tough to keep them out there for the entire game.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
Leadership In Football
Is about ability as much as anything. Vrabel’s losing his. Like I said in the other thread, if all we gave up was a 6th or 7th rounder for Vrabel, I’m happy with the trade. 5th rounder, not so much. 4th or above, Pioli got ripped off.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
Its my understanding
that we did give a 6th or a 7th. If thats the case i think it was a great move. Most 7th round picks are off the team in a year or two anyways. If we can get some production and knowledge for that pick why not?
Sorry for personal attack
but it just seemed fairly true. I wasn’t trying to insult anyone. I was trying to point out that he is talking about crappy coaching when he was in the tank for Herm.
Check your facts.
I never made the case that we should keep Herm indefinitely. I only ever said that, based on what was out there that we could replace him with, he’d likely be the better option.
Given what I’ve seen out of what we’ve replaced him and his staff with, I’m still not convinced I was wrong.
I'm Not Convinced That Haley Is The Answer
But I was 100% certain that Herm wasn’t and that it was time to get rid of the guy.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
Im not convinced either
but at this point im willing to give him the benefit of the doubt untill he proves that he is not.
Me Too...To A Point
I won’t be calling for his head for at least two years. But he sure isn’t making it easy to give him the benefit of the doubt right now if that’s how he’s going to treat players.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
Im not willing
to say Haley is the second coming and he will make no mistakes. He isn’t Obama for crying out loud! :) But im willing to try a new direction because clearly the last plan wasn’t working.
Ugh...You Had To Bring Up Mr. Socialized Medicine
I’ve never turned on a sitting president faster than I’ve turned on Obama. Hell, even Dubya got two and a half years in before I decided I hated him. Obama made me hate him in less than two months.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
Well, at least we're all on the same page there.
I didn’t vote for him, but I was willing to give him a shot.
He killed it with socialized medicine, a bloated stimulus package, and another huge bank bailout.
Same Here
I was hoping he’d end up being smarter than this…he seemed like a guy who grasped the fundamentals of free market economics and individual rights. But he showed his true colors pretty quickly.
We can only hope that the health care package blows up in Obama’s face and leads to more turnover in Congress. Sad thing is that the Republicans are so clueless and screwed up right now that they probably won’t be able to capitalize and wouldn’t be much better if they retook Congress anyway.
Dark days ahead, my friends…dark fucking days.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
And Gun Control
Mr. Gun Control. Advocating gun control and socialized medicine will make any politician dead to me. That’s why I plan to buy some hardware before the ban comes down.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
By The Way
Re-reading that, that may have come off as more psychotic than intended. Absolutely not intended to be a threat in any way, shape or form towards any politicians (other than a threat to deprive them of my vote).
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
New gun sales
are up about 45% Anything with the word socialized makes me cringe. Where is this change? The budget of 2010 is ludicris.
It's Not A Budget
It’s organized theft from the most productive segment of the population…the ones who actually create the jobs and new businesses that the government deludes itself into thinking it creates.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
Doesn't Surprise Me
The left loves to have lots of poor people. That way they’ll always feel needed and always know that there’s a segment of the population that’s happy to let the “liberals” run their lives for them (not that the “conservatives” have been any better for the last decade).
Know who the worst people in the world often are? The ones who “just want to help”. Often that phrase is just a euphemism for “I want to control your behavior because I think you’re too stupid to make your own decisions.”
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
I'm Going To Stop On This Tangent Now
It’ll just piss me off and make me unhappy.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
No Drugs On This End
But I’m pro-legalization. If someone else wants to indulge, it’s got nothing to do with me and it’s none of my business until they do something to make it my business (e.g. driving drunk, stealing to support a habit, etc.). The drugs themselves aren’t the problem and trying to eradicate them isn’t the solution.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
I'm Pro-Legalization For All
After all, it’s not like everyone’s going to go out and start snorting heroin just because they can (I’m certainly not, and I can’t imagine that the majority of people are that incapable of figuring out it’s a bad move). And it would do a lot to stabilize our issues around our borders (which are primarily War on Drugs-related…not just because of weed) and take major cash cows out of the hands of violent criminals who do things far worse than deal drugs (e.g. Cosa Nostra, al-Qaeda, FARC, street gangs, etc.).
Most of the unintended consequences of anti-drug laws are far worse for society than adding a few more junkies to the mix.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
Id like to go back
and check where you stated that you wanted to keep Herm, but that isnt very realistic at this point. I clearly remembering us discussing what we should do with Herm and you were making the case to keep him.
Now Now
Can we stop talking about Herm? We had that discussion and he’s gone. It’s as pointless to discuss him now as it was to discuss Vermeil last year.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
Yes.
Compared to what the options were to replace him with.
Just like I’ll make the case all day every day that you stick with Thigpen this year, even though I don’t know that I think he’s the long-term answer, and wait to get Bradford or McCoy or Tebow next year.
Change just for the sake of it isn’t necessarily a good thing. Sometimes, it makes more sense to be patient and stick things out just a little while longer because you know you can move on to something better later …
I Understand
But he wasn’t making a point defending Herm…he was making a point about what he perceives as Haley’s problems. And just because he was (in my opinion) wrong about Herm when he backed him doesn’t automatically invalidate his opinion about Haley.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
Other than it was in his sig.09 and beyond
because he was Clarks guy.
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
Except he is playing
Look, it seems from reports that we didn’t give up more than a 6th or 7th for a guy who will be a starter and will influence the starters we have. Now what players on the D do you think are ready to step up and lead this team? DJ, the 1st rounder who some have wondered aloud if he’s a bust? Tamba Hali? Who steps up, man? Vrabel will make plays and help transition into a system that requires better LB play. This is a great move, especially for the value.
-cw
"If there’s a god he’s laughing at us and our football team." - Ben Folds
If we wanted that ...
Why cut Donnie Edwards?
Donnie was a fan favorite. He’s a class guy. He’s got boatloads of experience and respect at his position. He’s also equally old, coming off a similarly bad year (his marred by injury), and also on the downside of his career.
Instead we cut him and give up a draft pick for a guy just like him, only less classy.
Valid Point
Although I think Vrabel is a bit more durable than Edwards at this point. Edwards’ biggest problem was that he couldn’t even get on the field.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
And Vraebel is versatile
Goal line situations and such. Donnie was not.
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
Do you want a plyer
you can get more out of, or just a player?
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
I wouldn't give up a 4th rounder for an assistant coach
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We tried it for a HC.
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
Should have included the smiley
Sarcasm!
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
Jeez... Do you ALL have the day off??
I like the Vrabel pick up… Depending on what we gave up… But this says something…. We arent gonna shy away from older veterans.
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
So does this mean
we are out of “rebuilding” mode? Tony, did you hear that?
"I can only imagine what it is going to be like in that town if we are fortunate to build a winner. You win there, you can sense that it would be something really special." - Todd Haley
Agreed, that's one reason I like this move
I think it shows we’re ready to start winning now.
BREAKING NEWS
there is a report out that the Kansas City Chiefs turned on a microphone and told the media they are actually doing some football work! Film at 11
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
out of all the trades?
out of all the trades we trade for varbel? why not peppers or some one a little younger?
Hope so.
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
Welll Bart Scott is signed
5 yeard deal to the JETS
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
K2 goes to the Bucs
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
Just heard it on ESPN
"I can only imagine what it is going to be like in that town if we are fortunate to build a winner. You win there, you can sense that it would be something really special." - Todd Haley
Schefter needs to jump on this story
Because I want to know what the draft picks were.
At least we did better than Oakland
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new asshole and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
Is that the love child
Of Al Davis and Jamarcus Russell?
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Bart Scott to the Jets not a done deal
Ravens may have a chance to match.
Updates are in the open thread.
Damn
Closest one to me is like 20 min away.
by Joel Thorman on Feb 27, 2009 2:15 PM CST up reply actions
I didn't
Took the day off just to sit here and enjoy the show.
I lost my pen. May I borrow yours?
by Harry Feltersnatch on Feb 27, 2009 2:08 PM CST reply actions
Ran some reports earlier
but the cpu and hv set up programs to do the rest, just reading and smh @ our inactivity.
When deep space exploration ramps up, it'll be the corporations that name everything, the IBM Stellar Sphere, the Microsoft Galaxy, Planet Starbucks.
I'd be fine with 9-7 or 10-6 and competiting for the divsion title
Fucking.. BOO!
God damit I for one am pissed about this. Yea let’s pick up a 33 year old linebacker when we’re the team who’s supposed to be getting younger. This screams Kendrell Bell all over it. So now we have Lj wanting out TG wanting out and now Waters wanting out. Oh great, nevermind now we have Vrabel wasting his last couple years with us while at the same time wasting our cap room that could have went to good use. Ugh, I love to vent.
im an insider on warpaint ilustrated the chiefs insider on there says we either gave up a 6th or 7nth rounder not bad
well by that time
my grandma can pick those picks most those guys dont even make the team . Well take that back they might make this team or be starters hahaah
Not bad at all
Vrabel still has something left in the tank. He’s also a ball hawk and a turnover machine IIRC. And he has leadership, intangibles, yadda yadda….
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For Picks!
Why would he be traded for more than 1 pick? I hope they are 6th and 7th rounders. Okay just saw that on previous post!
Vrabel becomes a free agent next year
I wonder if they restructured his contract or if we are just picking him up for one year? If we traded a draft pick I’d imagine he’d almost have to have restructured his contract.
Wow.
Hope thats the case. I think this is a good pick up, he’s probably the most badass 33 yr old i know.
DUDE
Vrabel for a 6th! Im down, we get that pick right back from the Michael Bennett trade
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
If we go after a LB in the draft
I bet we’ll either trade down for Maualuga or try to pick up Laurinitis/Cushing by trading up with our 2nd rounder.
i think smith goes first which makes rams go curry
and then we have stafford monroe or crabtree in our lap i go monroe .
im just worried right now cuz i really feel
this is our last chance to get some defenders cuz in the second round by then i dont see no elite defenders just really good o line man and with a offensive minded coach you cant let mack slip away or wood or unger if he slips that far. our oline would be sick and stacked for the next 10 years but we need to be active in free agency and get the pieces now
A lot has been made of doing things the "Patriot Way"
I think Pioli will want a veteran guy like Vrabel not for X and O purposes but to implement the attitude Pioli wants in players. Clearly Waters is not that guy….
dont blame pioli for getting a familiar face
but lets be serious this guy should be coming in after the starters.
His 2008 stats and last year against KC
2008 (16/14/0/0): Voted a defensive captain by his teammates for the fourth time … Led the team in tackles once (at SEA) and led the team in sacks once (vs. KC) in 2008.
Kansas City (9/7): Started at outside linebacker … Tallied four tackles (3 solo), two sacks, three quarterback hits and one pass defensed in the Patriots’ 17-10 win over the Chiefs … Sacked Damon Huard for a 2-yard loss to end the third quarter … Took down Huard a second time in the fourth quarter on a 6-yard sack … Disrupted a Brodie Croyle pass intended for Mike Cox in the first quarter … Teamed up with Richard Seymour to stuff Larry Johnson for no gain on a second-and-goal try with less than a minute remaining in the fourth quarter.
Anybody else think King Carl would never get Vrabel if he was still in charge?
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
Why? It puts things into perspective that it could be worse
We should just enjoy the acquisition.
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
LOL...thats true
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
So are we talking to 3-4 defensive ends?
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Apparently we tried to pursue Haynesworth
That has to mean Glenn Dorsey is gonna be used as a 3-4 DE.
If Curry is there we take him.
Maybe then try to work a trade for Rogers. Give them LJ and a pick. If not Curry is gone, take Raji and then try to trade back up into the first and grab Rey M.
Raji or Rogers.
What if we can work a deal with the Browns for Rogers? They just traded K2 so they obvioulsy dont have an issue with trading their stars for picks.
lj
for rogers go get igor he can play end glen can play end and your set tank backs up rogers or even have glen rotate starting 3 oshansky rogers and tank on the end to nasty beef up front.
Good idea.
I would haul LJ’s stuff to cleveland for him!
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Maybe not,
afraid of staph infection!
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I think this thing is gonna be painful to behold
Pioili is building this team anew, and it is going to get ugly. The Pats were well known for cutting fan-loved vets at the drop of the hat and bringing in vets who fit the team instead of making the team fit the players. Cinch up your panties boys, the seas are gettin a bit rough.
Damn!! I can't picture Vrabel in a KC uniform
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Of course on the NFLN.
They said Vraebel would be used as a pass rusher.
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They could make our day,
and sign Chris Canty, and Igor Olshansky!:)
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what about igor oshanski
from the chargers? He’s a FA.
by kcfaninsandiego on Feb 27, 2009 2:32 PM CST reply actions
That is what I am saying!:)
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I think we're gonna go after him
He’s a solid 3-4 DE and will come at a reasonable price. And we can stick it to a division rival.
Hopefully we gat some o-line help today as well.
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Done deal...Willie Roaf just re-signed to teach the kiddo's ;)
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
Ah now you are the funny man!
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;)
It was a tag team deal with Will Shields
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
Shields as an assistant
o-line coach would make me happy.
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tHE SUN IS SHINING!:)
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Tag-team,
you been talking to assassin?:)
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In addition Dante Hall just got acuired from the Rams
according to Mortensen and confirmed by Jack Harry ;)
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
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We almost HAVE to be bringing in Crennel, don't you think?
Why would we bring in Vrabel to work with Pendergast? And Gibbs doesn’t even do 3-4.
Good point
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