Chiefs Rank 2nd to Last in Total Salary Since 2003

by kcsno56 on Feb 25, 2009 3:12 PM CST Comment 54 comments

From the FanPosts. Nice work. You may have to view it in the 'wide' version. That option is clickable a little below the top left of the site. -PT

	Total	2008	2007	2006	2005	2004	2003
Washington Redskins	$614,609,349	$111,963,684	$123,408,019	$110,340,460	$66,108,711	$117,962,286	$84,826,189
Minnesota Vikings	$614,075,624	$133,354,045	$92,161,921	$125,025,909	$85,405,909	$92,407,989	$85,719,851
New Orleans Saints	$597,424,828	$131,531,820	$110,417,011	$91,021,286	$96,027,339	$73,324,022	$95,103,350
Dallas Cowboys	$596,059,716	$146,401,600	$107,376,072	$113,595,442	$82,234,816	$65,409,479	$81,042,307
Seattle Seahawks	$588,840,960	$102,985,710	$99,567,188	$107,449,932	$100,604,116	$94,006,282	$84,227,732
Houston Texans	$572,084,816	$108,445,418	$98,154,775	$108,675,881	$81,743,598	$97,473,626	$77,591,518
Indianapolis Colts	$571,983,069	$93,373,915	$102,786,398	$131,189,741	$77,425,584	$92,209,207	$74,998,224
Philladelphia Eagles	$570,346,675	$109,557,398	$100,807,309	$104,846,458	$72,721,279	$104,977,331	$77,436,900
New England Patriots	$569,344,286	$92,734,120	$117,963,182	$105,110,495	$94,409,059	$76,999,180	$82,128,250
Carolina Panthers	$565,633,326	$112,114,711	$93,944,262	$106,554,612	$90,207,818	$87,807,573	$75,004,350
Oakland Raiders	$565,555,173	$152,389,371	$90,869,865	$71,822,140	$98,199,827	$77,369,122	$74,904,848
Chicago Bears	$564,943,914	$120,065,819	$104,151,969	$91,648,722	$78,447,028	$87,826,859	$82,803,517
Baltimore Ravens	$564,640,369	$90,713,965	$104,997,764	$111,596,746	$94,699,413	$86,478,031	$76,154,450
Arizona Cardinals	$563,026,292	$122,110,110	$98,694,817	$105,685,931	$76,539,161	$78,961,345	$81,034,928
St. Louis Rams	$557,226,458	$116,677,660	$100,340,467	$104,720,286	$78,874,540	$76,389,455	$80,224,050
Detroit Lions	$556,349,895	$95,827,117	$106,731,910	$100,994,425	$80,555,718	$94,578,628	$77,662,097
Pittsburgh Steelers	$554,898,859	$128,815,061	$106,293,914	$94,038,001	$84,225,127	$77,955,021	$63,571,735
Atlanta Falcons	$551,668,641	$96,391,525	$83,845,371	$105,072,221	$98,787,003	$82,711,268	$84,861,253
Cincinnati Bengals	$550,367,564	$109,727,880	$98,529,188	$113,000,016	$74,841,371	$68,811,884	$85,457,225
Jacksonville Jaguars	$547,963,324	$122,109,207	$94,030,775	$97,664,503	$83,310,713	$72,113,009	$78,735,117
New York Jets	$545,449,859	$116,910,097	$99,971,535	$86,145,839	$79,346,324	$93,866,236	$69,209,828
San Diego Chargers	$542,269,525	$111,813,340	$102,460,685	$99,782,506	$78,729,437	$76,253,021	$73,230,536
New York Giants	$541,973,593	$115,816,180	$75,755,388	$108,196,454	$82,422,436	$81,657,826	$78,125,309
Cleveland Browns	$538,590,874	$131,916,300	$102,394,922	$89,196,326	$73,505,292	$87,728,284	$53,849,750
Buffalo Bills	$537,572,253	$113,364,927	$108,875,882	$80,924,316	$80,937,517	$80,170,229	$73,299,382
Miami Dolphins	$537,201,747	$114,649,660	$92,573,123	$97,660,204	$70,942,305	$93,937,308	$67,439,147
Tennessee Titans	$528,831,820	$126,017,443	$97,081,153	$89,820,780	$61,332,658	$79,003,839	$75,575,947
San Francisco 49ers	$527,155,856	$118,766,239	$106,877,077	$95,134,927	$82,824,487	$63,033,817	$60,519,309
Tampa Bay Bucs	$525,059,136	$104,329,311	$98,105,565	$78,779,519	$73,770,494	$81,989,547	$88,084,700
Denver Broncos	$524,946,400	$95,599,778	$102,152,344	$94,392,713	$95,409,738	$72,564,908	$64,826,919
Kansas City Chiefs	$519,256,128	$83,623,776	$108,482,459	$81,748,009	$83,390,185	$84,617,626	$77,394,073
Green Bay Packers	$512,587,418	$94,018,300	$97,653,823	$98,561,315	$64,740,177	$80,383,682	$77,230,121

This information comes via the USA Today Salary Database it's been referrenced in previous posts, but I've never seen anyone pull the #'s into excel and get some totals.

In the last 3 or 4 years, I've noticed that things have changed since the mid-90's and early 00's. There was a time when each year Chiefs fans knew we'd be spending at or near the cap. This hasn't been the case in some while.

The numbers above represent total salaries and not salary cap figures. You often heard Carl reference 'Cash on hand vs. Cap dollars.' He did this because he knew that the Chiefs had lots of cap room the last few years, but we still weren't really being competitive in free agency.

The one that still bugs me is Jared Allen. I read many in the media and blogosphere say that you can't spend that kind of money on JA. What almost no one realizes: we could have signed JA to the same contract as the Vikes did, and because we were so ridiculously under the cap, we could have made his entire bonus a roster bonus (All $35 mil) and put all the guaranteed money on the '08 cap. What that would have done, is made Jared a 5 or 6 million dollar cap figure from 09-13! That's a steal, gents for a player of his quality. Its not just him. In the last few years, Carl and Co. went out of their way to sign players to Cap-un-friendly deals. The TG and LJ extensions both could have been signed with more money going immediately on the cap. As I'm sure you guys know, once a year is over, the $ left unused on the cap are gone forever. Teams like NE, Philly and Pitt regularly resign guys mid-season to use up cap dollars for that year.

I say this, not to be a downer on the Chiefs and their future. I say this because I want Chiefs fans (and especially us Season Ticket holders) to hold Clark accountable. I'm posting this today because today is the Clark conference call.

Everything, I've seen out of Clark this offseason, has led me to believe that this cheapness is going to be a thing of the past. He went out and paid top dollar for a GM, there was one report that Pioli is the highest paid GM in the league. He then went out and signed Haley to a competitive contract comparable to some of the other guys inked this offseason (Spags, McDaniels). So to be clear, I'm very hopeful that our cheapness, and yeah, that's what I'm calling it, is going to end starting in 2009.

But to take it a step further, there is no excuse for the cheapness to continue. The Jackson Co. taxpayers have funded a large majority of the renovations to The Head, and with that, our revenues likely never have been higher than this season.

So, whats your point kcsno56?? Am I saying we have to go out and sign Haynesworth? No. Am I saying they have to eat up all their cap room this offseason and spend upwards of 110 mil? No. What I am saying is that over the next two seasons, Clark needs to open the purse-strings and let Scott know that finances aren't an issue, only the cap is. I'm of the belief that Pioli wouldn't have taken this job if he thought otherwise. Lets hope that's the case.

What we do have to see this offseason, is to pick at least one of the elite FAs, preferably one 28 or under heading into this season, and get him signed to a contract that will keep him here at least 3-4 years and through what hopefully will be a Championship run.

Who fits that profile? Bart Scott, Jason Brown, Igor Olshansky or Chris Canty if we're going 3-4, Jonathan Vilma and Channing Crowder. There are no excuses for not signing at least a couple of these guys. Then, hopefully after another solid draft, and an improved season, we can dive in hard next offseason and sign a couple hole fillers that can get us over the hump.

But the biggest thing I want this post to get across is, please, boys, stop using the cap as an excuse for past moves. And until we even get within 10 million of the cap, which almost can't happen until 2010 stop using the cap as a line of argument for moves this offseason.

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Arrowhead Pride's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Arrowhead Pride writers or editors.

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Not entirely surprising, but at least we didn't pay through the nose for the lack of playoff wins last 6 years. :)

"and peep this ethiopian queen from philly taking classes abroad, she studying film and photo flash focus record"

I don't have religion. I have Baduizm.

by DThomasReigns on Feb 25, 2009 3:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

BTW- Great post.

"and peep this ethiopian queen from philly taking classes abroad, she studying film and photo flash focus record"

I don't have religion. I have Baduizm.

by DThomasReigns on Feb 25, 2009 3:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

But see, we DID pay through the nose

At least you did if you went to games…I hear you, but this has bugged me for awhile.

And thanks.

by kcsno56 on Feb 25, 2009 3:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Nice work kcsno

By the way, the wide version setting is up on the right sidebar.

by Joel Thorman on Feb 25, 2009 3:38 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Ohh

Mine was always in wide format, just checked it out in narrow…not so good!

by kcsno56 on Feb 25, 2009 3:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

LOL

Mine has been on narrow since day one… ahh a world of difference ;)

by Eastcoastransplant on Feb 25, 2009 5:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Minnesota Vikings

Were the biggest surprise on this list. I know a lot of people up in Minneapolis, and there is a general opinion that thier owner Wilf is cheap and trying to scam the community into ponying up for a new Stadium…if I’m him I’m pointing at this list saying, hey, I’ve spent my money, its time you do the same.

New Orleans, too…I was really surprised they were so high on the list, a lot of the others you’d expect.

by kcsno56 on Feb 25, 2009 3:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

You know the worst thing about those statistics?

I didn’t receive any of that money.

We need a future defensive leader, his name is James Laurinaitis and he can be selected in round 1 of the upcoming Draft.

"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"

by Lanier63 on Feb 25, 2009 3:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Great Post.

From what I can figure out, and this info may be wrong, the salary cap was set at the following levels for those years:

2003: 75 million
2004: 80.5 million
2005: 85.5 million
2006: 102 million
2007: 109 million
2008: 116 million

I couldn’t find a decent website that listed these so I compiled them from some random sites (some I don’t trust too much) so take this for what it is worth—feel free to correct the numbers if they are off.

I figured I would throw this out there to give an idea of how much the Chiefs were spending per the cap as well as per the other teams. Great post though—much appreciated.

Beat the Donkeys!!

by schraggyj on Feb 25, 2009 3:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Ask the Commish

Good reference site.

by Joel Thorman on Feb 25, 2009 3:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Sure.

You question my floor numbers for 2009 yesterday, then post them, then cite the Commish.

It’s okay, (sob), I’m not hurt, (wipes tear).

j/k :)

"and peep this ethiopian queen from philly taking classes abroad, she studying film and photo flash focus record"

I don't have religion. I have Baduizm.

by DThomasReigns on Feb 25, 2009 4:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Ahh

That’s right.

For some reason I thought the floor number was 60% but haven’t found anything to back that up. The Commish is pretty reliable though.

by Joel Thorman on Feb 25, 2009 4:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I actually wasn't aware of that site until your post. It seems like a great site.

"and peep this ethiopian queen from philly taking classes abroad, she studying film and photo flash focus record"

I don't have religion. I have Baduizm.

by DThomasReigns on Feb 25, 2009 4:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah

You can spend a lot of time sifting through it all. It’s pretty neat.

by Joel Thorman on Feb 25, 2009 4:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I was just looking at the same thing

What is the consequences if you over spend? Plus we were supposed to have spent 92.8 million last year (80% of maximum) I think.

We need a future defensive leader, his name is James Laurinaitis and he can be selected in round 1 of the upcoming Draft.

"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"

by Lanier63 on Feb 25, 2009 3:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Can't overspend

The league will just reject the contract that pushes it over.

by Joel Thorman on Feb 25, 2009 3:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Well

In USA Today’s list above, the #’s reflect total money paid out that year, so the Vikes 133 mil last year includes $35 mil paid to JA in signing bonus. And that gets prorated over the life of the contract on the cap…so that 35 mil is like 7 per on the cap.

by kcsno56 on Feb 25, 2009 3:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Exactly

Bonuses are actually paid to the player up front but are pro-rated over the life of the contract as far as the cap is concerned.

Man..excellent work here, my friend.

by Joel Thorman on Feb 25, 2009 3:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Good call

But its important to remember that teams could be well over these numbers any given year, due to Bonus money given out. In fact, as you can see, the Redskins were over that # 5 of 6 years.

What would be interesting, would be to compare something like playoff appearances with total salary, and see the correlation. I can tell you just glancing at the list, that there definitely is a relationship, although imperfect.

by kcsno56 on Feb 25, 2009 3:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Point Of Information

I don’t think you can really blame Clark Hunt for being cheap that time, since his dad was running the team through 2006. And yes, I think Lamar Hunt was a pretty crappy owner for the Chiefs…he gave us two Super Bowl appearances in the 60s, then 30 years of bad teams (with only the Marty years where the Chiefs were consistently good). Yeah, the last two years sucked, but Clark Hunt inherited two guys (Herm, Carl) with multiple years left on their contracts, he got rid of them once they’d pretty clearly demonstrated they didn’t have what it took to make a winner, and now that it’s actually his team he appears to be interested in having the Chiefs be a player. So I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on the cheapness factor.

Predictions for 2009

1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.

by UCrawford on Feb 25, 2009 3:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

By The Way

I don’t like Olshansky or Canty as anything more than reserves. Neither is a good pass rusher. Olshansky appears to be a good reserve DE/DT and that’s about it. Canty’s definitely a reserve-caliber player at this point in his career. So hopefully the Chiefs won’t give them big bucks to come here.

Predictions for 2009

1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.

by UCrawford on Feb 25, 2009 3:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

If we go to a 3-4

We’ll need DE’s that can play in a 3-4, right now, I’m not sure we have one. Often those aren’t pass rush positions. Olshansky in particular would be a great fit at 3-4 DE.

But no, he wouldn’t fit in a 4-3.

by kcsno56 on Feb 25, 2009 3:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

igor

is a beast if we go 3-4 we need that guy he is young and i still get nightmares. Cuz all i hear when i see the chiefs is igooooor oshaaaaaansky we need that guy he tackles everyone

by sexassassin on Feb 25, 2009 4:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Its a little gray

When exactly he was making the decisions, but I agree in general with your point.

What scares me is that one could view his talk of draft over FA as a way to be cheap. I’m not saying thats the case, but you could read it that way. Of course every team wants to have good drafts, thats pretty obvious.

by kcsno56 on Feb 25, 2009 3:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

And I just ran the numbers since '06

And we are dead last…just sayin’

This offseason has renewed my confidence, but I want them to back it up!

by kcsno56 on Feb 25, 2009 4:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I may be wrong (and probably am)

But I remember arguing last Feb before the JA trade that we were well under the floor. I thought we never climbed above the floor last season.

If that’s true, what is the punishment?

"and peep this ethiopian queen from philly taking classes abroad, she studying film and photo flash focus record"

I don't have religion. I have Baduizm.

by DThomasReigns on Feb 25, 2009 4:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I was wondering this same thing

And from what I recall, you literally can’t be under the floor. Kind of like you can’t be over the cap.

But I don’t know how we weren’t under the floor last year…these are the kind of items I wish Teicher would cover.

by kcsno56 on Feb 25, 2009 4:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

he may have to wait and read it on this site so he can report it :)

We need a future defensive leader, his name is James Laurinaitis and he can be selected in round 1 of the upcoming Draft.

"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"

by Lanier63 on Feb 25, 2009 4:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I just ran the numbers on this

The 2008 cap was $116.7 Million

The Floor was 85.2% of the cap = $99.4 Million

Per your USAToday stats above, the Chiefs only spent $83.6 Million last year.

Just as we thought, the 2008 Chiefs were $15.8 Million below the mandated NFL salary cap floor.

Yet, nothing comes of it?

"and peep this ethiopian queen from philly taking classes abroad, she studying film and photo flash focus record"

I don't have religion. I have Baduizm.

by DThomasReigns on Feb 25, 2009 4:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

They sent me a check finally for the remainder

something about services rendered

We need a future defensive leader, his name is James Laurinaitis and he can be selected in round 1 of the upcoming Draft.

"But what do I know, I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"

by Lanier63 on Feb 25, 2009 4:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Sounds like you give good "services."

"and peep this ethiopian queen from philly taking classes abroad, she studying film and photo flash focus record"

I don't have religion. I have Baduizm.

by DThomasReigns on Feb 25, 2009 4:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

That's money spent

Not cap dollars. In addition to that money, we had bonuses and what not from previous players that are spread out over the life of contracts.

by Joel Thorman on Feb 25, 2009 4:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Very good point. I didn't catch that.

I told you all I would be wrong. :P

"and peep this ethiopian queen from philly taking classes abroad, she studying film and photo flash focus record"

I don't have religion. I have Baduizm.

by DThomasReigns on Feb 25, 2009 4:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Bob Gretz Actually Published Something About It At The Beginning Of Last Season

About how the Chiefs worked the cap…it’s actually a very complex process that’s inaccurately reported and figured by reporters all the time, which is why I’ve given up trying to figure out cap hits unless I can get a copy of the rules (the actual rules…not our interpretation) on how the cap works.

Predictions for 2009

1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.

by UCrawford on Feb 25, 2009 4:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I agree, UC.

However, I am now left with this troubling realization.

We have been reduced to debating whether or not the Chiefs have reached the cap floor.

How sad is that? That fact shouldn’t even be in question, yet we have been debating it since last Feb. I hope this year marks a change from that.

"and peep this ethiopian queen from philly taking classes abroad, she studying film and photo flash focus record"

I don't have religion. I have Baduizm.

by DThomasReigns on Feb 25, 2009 4:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Just Life Under King Carl

I knew he was killing this team after listening to him boast on “Hard Knocks” about how much money he raised from auctioning off the bicycles that Chiefs players rode in River Falls. It’s a documentary about Chiefs football to drive up interest in the upcoming season, that the Chiefs management had final edit authority over, and Carl Peterson thinks anyone gives a shit about how good he is at squeezing a few more bucks out of the fans? At that point I knew that building a team with the best chance of winning a Super Bowl simply wasn’t high on his priority list…it was profitability first and if the fans got something out of it, that’s nice too.

Predictions for 2009

1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.

by UCrawford on Feb 25, 2009 4:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Yes

It is, but I remember it being reported that we were $30 million under the cap last year, and I’m scratching my head, but I don’t remember any signings during the year of this kind of magnitude.

In fact, according to the 85.2% figure, that means that NO team was more than 17.3 million under the cap…and that seems nuts. But I’ll go with it.

by kcsno56 on Feb 25, 2009 4:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I'm Not That Cynical About The Draft

Because of the cap, the draft is still the most economical way to add a large amount of new talent into the equation. Outside of the top ten or so picks, the costs are actually pretty low for drafted talent, the players are young and therefore are more likely to improve than free agents are (since the best free agents will usually be in their prime or just exiting). It’s simply not cost-efficient or good long-term strategy to build your team around free agents…partly because they’ll eat up so much in costs and partly because they don’t have as long of a potential future as young players do.

Predictions for 2009

1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.

by UCrawford on Feb 25, 2009 4:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I'm not arguing with that

Drafting is the most important part of building your team. I’d rather be great at drafting than great at signing FA. Clearly.

BUT, when you publicly say that we’re going to focus on the draft, yada, yada, well…no sh8t. Of course you have to improve scouting and the draft, but the best teams don’t just draft well, they also supplement talent through FA, and the Chiefs haven’t been competitive in this arena for years.

by kcsno56 on Feb 25, 2009 4:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed

I’m a big fan of the blended approach. It worked for the Patriots and Giants…it can work for the Chiefs too. The biggest reason it didn’t work for us, though, appears to be that Peterson was a really crap evaluator of free agent talent and failed to grasp that football is a futures market (where you pay for future, not past, performance). He wasted a lot of money on bad contracts (Holmes, Larry Johnson, Kendrell Bell) because of what players had done for him, not what they were projected to do.

In fact, I think the Priest Holmes contract (long-term superstar deal for a 31 year old running back with a serious injury history) should have been a fireable offense.

Predictions for 2009

1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.

by UCrawford on Feb 25, 2009 4:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

+1000

Very, very true

by JZChiefsfan on Feb 25, 2009 5:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Good post.

I think that was what kept Herm in good graces with ownership…he wanted young guys through the draft and young guys=cheap. Obviously Clark would stick with a guy who promised he would make the Chiefs young, cheap, and good….thats impossible.
The draft is very important in building a team for years to come…but…you have to buy some free agents or your team will never make it very far. All the good teams have great free agent guys on them. Herm just set our franchise back like 5yrs for being cheap…thanks Herm!
I would rather have the oldest team in the NFL for a chance at the Super Bowl then the youngest only to be decent for 10yrs.

by Matt_Grbac on Feb 25, 2009 4:06 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Except

We had the oldest team in the league, or atleast towards that bar, and we never made it past the first round. I’m not saying that swinging 180 degrees the other way is the answer either, ala last year. But we did need to become younger and we needed to do it in a hurry. That being done, now we need to improve the team with some quality FA pickups and add some veteran leadership. This may not happen this year, but a piece here, a piece there, and continued positive building through the draft. I agree one can argue that just b/c a team is young does not by any means make them good. See again, last year. But w/ a successful balance…. The sky is the limit. A successful balance, and quality leadership.

by Eastcoastransplant on Feb 25, 2009 5:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

This is mostly true

But I have a hard time accepting as a season ticket holder that the Minnesota F8cking Vikings spend 100 Million more dollars than us over the last 6 years. I’ve had my season tickets for 6 years, which was my original motivation for looking this up…and it burns me that over that stretch, only one team has spent less on player contracts.

Yeah, we needed to rebuild, but teams rebuild all the time without completely gutting what they had, or I should say, gutting without picking up replacements. There are only a couple teams that completely gutted thier team and went as cheap as we have the last couple years, the Titans and 49ers, and they both did that for cap purposes…we did it just because we were getting older and it looks like, to save money.

Last year is the offseason that bugs me the most, HOW could we not sign any legit FA’s with the talent we had returning? The roster was simply embarressing. Herm called it 85% complete…are you kidding me?? In 3 years, half that roster will be out of the league. You CAN get younger while signing FA’s. You do it by signing guys on thier first FA contract. There are guys every year that are 25-28, you sign them with the realization that you may not win the division this year, but they’ll be here through the rough season and hopefully help lead you to the playoffs as the team starts to mature.

by kcsno56 on Feb 26, 2009 12:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

The Signing I Was Pissed At The Chiefs For Not Making

Was Jake Scott. Young offensive lineman, fit what the Chiefs wanted to do (good run blocker), had a good season in Tennessee, and of course the Chiefs made no effort to sign him. Instead they spent money on Demorrio Williams.

Predictions for 2009

1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.

by UCrawford on Feb 26, 2009 8:21 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

+1

by kcsno56 on Feb 26, 2009 8:35 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Dan Snyder is an idiot.

Big spending doesn’t equal winning in any way.

by Rev. Slappy on Feb 25, 2009 4:44 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Big Spending Can Equal Big Winning

But you have to spend your money on talent that enhances the scheme the team is running (e.g. Patriots), not talent as an end in itself (e.g. Redskins). Dan Snyder doesn’t appear to understand that a player with the most talent isn’t necessarily the player that will best improve his squad.

Predictions for 2009

1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.

by UCrawford on Feb 25, 2009 4:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

+1 again

I don’t think Dan Snyder understands the team concept. He just always swings for the fences in FA and hopes to hit a home run.

by JZChiefsfan on Feb 25, 2009 5:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I Think He Just Falls In Love With The Names

I get the idea he’s a big fan who doesn’t really understand football all that well and that he tends to take the fantasy football approach to building teams at times…to the real-life team’s detriment.

Not that it’s a bad thing to have an owner willing to spend to win (and I do think he cares about winning), but it’s not good if the owner is constantly spending unwisely.

Predictions for 2009

1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.

by UCrawford on Feb 25, 2009 5:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Great Post.

I truly was unaware that we were so far down the list of overall spending.. Looking back though i guess it is pretty obvious about how little we did spend. the only people getting a decent amount of money being lj, tg, and bowe, albert, dorsey, and maybe dj.

by McWhirt33 on Feb 25, 2009 4:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

I agree.

He’s the George Steinbrenner of the NFL. He overpays for players that are way past their prime.

by Rev. Slappy on Feb 25, 2009 8:38 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

He's worse than Steinbrenner

Stein at least won titles. And at least some of his signings are solid.

I will say that I’d rather have an owner who I knew was doing everything to win than one I had to question. I hope those questions are eliminated this offseason.

by kcsno56 on Feb 26, 2009 12:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Am I the only one surprised more guys aren't waiting for FA to start

To re-sign with thier current team? Whatever elite players that wait for FA to start are going to make a killing. Teams are loaded with money to spend, and there are so few high quality guys hitting the market.

by kcsno56 on Feb 26, 2009 1:14 AM CST reply actions 0 recs