Worst Burned Rate: Out of the league's safeties who have been targeted at least 33 times, the Houston Texans' Bernard Pollard has been burned the most (72.2 percent).
about 2 years ago
ChiefMizzou09
76 comments
8 recs |
Email
PrintComments
But, But, But
he hits really, really hard
Holy Shit!!!...Peterson resigned...Am I dead?...Is This Heaven?
by RoyalsFanStuckInCardsLand on Dec 8, 2009 12:24 PM CST reply actions
Be interesting to see this stat if the definition of "burned" included miss tackles.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
Is that just for this year?
Winning begins with Attitude - Haley and Pioli will be winners in KC!
I'll forever be a Chiefs fan! Only God himself could take that away from me, but when I get to my great reward, I'll rejoin two bigger fans, my Mom and Dad.
Been saying this for weeks
Misses tackles constantly. We’re better with Brown.
by Chief-Eli on Dec 8, 2009 12:27 PM CST via mobile reply actions
The meaning of burned in this article...
means that he has the highest percentage of passes completed against him among the safeties. Basically, he doesn’t play good coverage at all. I don’t think it takes into account missed tackles, just completed passes. So assuming he doesn’t tackle them after they make the catch against him, just makes Pollard even worse.
Seriously, I could kiss you on the mouth for finding that stat ChiefMizzou.
Feeling "The Love" and "Drinking the Kool AId"
by KCporkchop on Dec 8, 2009 12:31 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
i'm with you.
i think we should re-post this on the main page daily :) i really dont want to deal with the Pollard > Brown comments any more…
and for the record… i’ve seen jon mcgraw lay some wood this year at FS. he’s been hitting guys with conviction.
if rhymes were valiums, i'd be comfortably numb
by Chris Sembower on Dec 8, 2009 1:21 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
But, but, but....
head explodes
Our defense gave up 87 points in two weeks and everyone wants to talk about Matt Cassel. Classic. Only TEAMS, as a COLLECTIVE GROUP, decide our W/L record. I can't believe this needs to be said.
by jk86 on Dec 8, 2009 12:32 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
Burned
So the receiver makes the catch 72% of the time when they go against Pollard? That is terrible.
Yeah I hear you man,
But it’s f@#king embarrassing. We have possibly the worst team the chiefs have ever had, and some are worried about players who are not even apart of the team.
by palomarchief on Dec 8, 2009 12:47 PM CST up reply actions
na, not the worst
We’ll win 4-5 games…probably. Record-wise we’ll be better than the previous two seasons…and there’s a actual PLAN for improving the team in place. The blowouts have been tough, but I still feel better about the direction of the team than I have in at least 3 years.
Predictions:
Kansas City will not win more than four games in 2009
Kansas City will have a new OC and DC in 2010
Kansas City will win at least seven games in 2010
by jmcgoblue on Dec 8, 2009 12:50 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I hope your right!
I t just sucks, I’m in Socal and want to pull the pit maneuver on every car I see with a bolt sticker or flag.
I feel your pain bro
But we will soon be the ones smiling. Besides, in a few years, we won’t be seeing any Chargers stickers or flags. But when they see my Chiefs license plate frame, they always look to see what a true fan, the kind that proudly displays his teams logo during even the bad years, looks like.
For justice we must go to Don Pioli
by Sudden on Dec 8, 2009 1:15 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Amen!
My students are always giving me crap cause I have a Chiefs coffee mug that I drink out of daily, or when I wear my Chiefs tie. I just keep telling them to wait and see… : )
by ChiefFan4Life on Dec 8, 2009 1:37 PM CST up reply actions
yeah tough times, but chiefs will be better for sure.
just gotta be patient. we’ll get our turn to laugh in so cali haha
That's nothing new! Don't you remember watching him get burned last year?
He gets beat deep all the time. He is a punishing tackler, though.
yeah
but a lot of posters here apparently don’t! Pioli’s been trashed a lot for dumping Pollard.
Predictions:
Kansas City will not win more than four games in 2009
Kansas City will have a new OC and DC in 2010
Kansas City will win at least seven games in 2010
Why doesn't anyone try to move Pollard to a LB pos?
He hits hard and maybe he would have a better shot at covering TE’s opposed to WR’s. I know I will get some shit for saying this but I moved him on Madden and excelled.
You know, I did the same thing
And he wasn’t that good. He’s now benched behind a 2nd year player (who, funnily, is a converted linebacker). Strange.
I do know my 3 Penn State linebackers are tearing ass though!! :) And the combo of Jamaal Charles and Evan Royster is UNSTOPPABLE.
Penn State to Kansas City...Always a winning combination.
I don't believe it
I can’t believe anybodys been burnt more than MIke Brown.
Chiefs 2010 big board-
Eric Berry
Dez Bryant
Taylor Mays
Rolando McClain
Russel Okung
CBs and LBs got burnt
Brown just missed the tackles later.
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Dec 8, 2009 12:51 PM CST up reply actions
According to the stats presented on this website,
Pollard is worst, then Reggie Nelson, Chris Hope, Dashon Goldson, and then Michael Griffin. Brown is not even top 5. Most of the time Chiefs get burnt it is really not over the top. It is usually between the safeties and linebackers (hard to determine whose fault) or as NJ Chiefs Fan says, basically other people getting burnt and then long tackles.
by ChiefMizzou09 on Dec 8, 2009 12:57 PM CST up reply actions
well
our safeties do line up 20 yards from the line of scrimmage these days.
For justice we must go to Don Pioli
(cough)
ILB that can cover (cough)
FS that can cheat up and has recovery speed (cough)(cough)
by Hail2DaChiefs on Dec 8, 2009 1:24 PM CST up reply actions
Wow that is a bad cough, you should get that checked out.
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
by BigRedChief on Dec 8, 2009 1:37 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Already did.......
Soft zone-coverageitis.
by Hail2DaChiefs on Dec 8, 2009 1:49 PM CST up reply actions
ooooh that's some nasty stuff
swine flu anit got shit on that.
UCrawford will eventually calm down and realize that Haley isn't a bad coach.
Will embrace the Fire Haley Bandwagon if we lose to the raiders by more then a TD...
..But we aren't going to lose.
LJ will not land in Pittsburgh
The Chiefs will not be the number one pick in this years draft
The Chiefs first pick of the draft will NOT be a OL
Thinks UCrawford just needs a hug... offer is there when you are ready UC :p
To me it seems like on just about every big play Mike Brown is a few steps behind.
Chiefs 2010 big board-
Eric Berry
Dez Bryant
Taylor Mays
Rolando McClain
Russel Okung
on every big play he probably is
but this proves that even with all those big plays given up by brown, pollard is still giving up more.
UCrawford will eventually calm down and realize that Haley isn't a bad coach.
Will embrace the Fire Haley Bandwagon if we lose to the raiders by more then a TD...
..But we aren't going to lose.
LJ will not land in Pittsburgh
The Chiefs will not be the number one pick in this years draft
The Chiefs first pick of the draft will NOT be a OL
Thinks UCrawford just needs a hug... offer is there when you are ready UC :p
regardless...
Texans fans still seem to be very pleased with the acquisition. I liken his signing with Houstan to us getting Wade: He shows flashes of being a very promising FA sign, but then has just an absolute farce of a game and when the season is over you have a bad taste in your mouth.
A man who says he can, and a man who says he can't are both right. Which one are you?
They can probly catch about the same, too...
Don't forget to be an AP-vangelist...Tell A Friend...
by woodman212 on Dec 8, 2009 5:25 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
yeah I must say that the pollard love makes me laugh a bit
It goes both ways for me. I was a BIG pollard supporter…Then I got NFL sunday Ticket last season and watched every game…that definitely changed my opinion rather quickly…Yeah he puts up some stats…but he also gets killed all over the field…people wonder how we can still be this bad…its picks like Pollard, picks like DJ…my c harger friend was so confused that DJ wasnt starting…and I said…listen, DJ makes a big play but is constantly missing tackles and getting beat in coverage…he watches the game, and points out 4-5 different times where DJ just flat out blew coverage or lacked effort and missed a tackle…lets just say it became clear to him as it has to me…that over that long period of drafting with vermeil and edwards, there were VERY few guys that would start on a really good team for a long period of time…there werent even many solid bench guys…
hes the best example of why they blew this up and dealt tank and thigpen(who I couldnt believe was a franchise QB, whereas ive seen less fireworks from Cassel but much more promise…)
I get that brown stinks etc other than with tip picks…but…there is a lot to be said about the fact that if we are planning to turn this around, attitudes MUST go…Pollard had one…he had to go, his play was not to the talent level where we HAD to keep him because he made so many mistakes…
If I was really, really, rich
and knew where KCShuffle lived, I’d buy the house across the street from him, bulldoze it, and put up a billboard with this stat on it.
Feeling "The Love" and "Drinking the Kool AId"
by KCporkchop on Dec 8, 2009 1:25 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
To be fair ...
I’d like to know where he pulled his stats from so that we could compare what we had (Pollard) with what we’ve got now.
he provided the link... but there are no Chiefs referenced
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers
Can you point me to where that is, exactly, then?
Because I’m not seeing any reference at all from the WPI page to show where he’s mining his data from.
Other than ...
… from Stats, LLC. which doesn’t appear to be accessible for the average, everyday fan.
And see if those stats are for the year or only his time with the Texans.
If it is for the year then his weeks in KC contributed to the percentage. And if that is the case, what is the “burn” rate of his time in KC vs his time in Houston.
If his burn percentage has dropped in Houston vs KC then I guess WE have a problem. If it is the other way around then Houston has THE problem.
Who was it that said they love statistics because even a failing business can be made to look good.
by BCRavenJHawkfan on Dec 8, 2009 2:34 PM CST up reply actions
what weeks. he was released before the start of the season.
UCrawford will eventually calm down and realize that Haley isn't a bad coach.
Will embrace the Fire Haley Bandwagon if we lose to the raiders by more then a TD...
..But we aren't going to lose.
LJ will not land in Pittsburgh
The Chiefs will not be the number one pick in this years draft
The Chiefs first pick of the draft will NOT be a OL
Thinks UCrawford just needs a hug... offer is there when you are ready UC :p
um... if the guy they were covering caught the pass?
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers
Well then these stats are bogus because Pollard doesn't cover ANYBODY.
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
nice :)
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers
I like Pollard
and this made me laugh.
Nice one.
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Dec 8, 2009 2:58 PM CST up reply actions
damn it. since these stats are bogus
i guess that means i have to listen to how much better our pass d would be if we still had pollard. :p
UCrawford will eventually calm down and realize that Haley isn't a bad coach.
Will embrace the Fire Haley Bandwagon if we lose to the raiders by more then a TD...
..But we aren't going to lose.
LJ will not land in Pittsburgh
The Chiefs will not be the number one pick in this years draft
The Chiefs first pick of the draft will NOT be a OL
Thinks UCrawford just needs a hug... offer is there when you are ready UC :p
if the guy runs right by you before catchhing the ball?
Winning begins with Attitude - Haley and Pioli will be winners in KC!
I'll forever be a Chiefs fan! Only God himself could take that away from me, but when I get to my great reward, I'll rejoin two bigger fans, my Mom and Dad.
Meh.
According to this, Pollard has more Passes Defended and more INT return yards than Mike Brown (heck, for that matter, so does Andy Studebaker).
Pollard also has more Tackles, as many Solo tackles, more Assists, and more Forced Fumbles.
more INT return yards?
kind of an arbitrary stat, i think
For the record, I don’t think Brown is “better” than Pollard… I think Pollard was let go because of his attitude, primarily.
Brown’s position needs an upgrade this offseason, but it would still need an upgrade if Pollard were here, so it’s a wash.
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers
Arbitrary stats.
I know. But, Mike Brown has more INTs (3, to Pollard’s 2) so I felt the need to point out that Pollard has been significantly more productive after hauling in his INTs than Brown has.
End Zone
One of Brown’s INTs was in the end zone and he took a knee because there was no place open to return the ball. That was a heads up play and one most players would have screwed up on. Returns are situational so I don’t really see how that is being more productive.
well wait til next year
if pollard was still here and he didn’t have to join a new system, those numbers wouldn’t be that bad
we all know how fundamentally sound bernard was
Move it along folks. Nothing to see here.
Welcome to Chiefs REBUILD - Version 2.0 /The Clark Hunt Edition
Chiefs will be lucky to go 4-12 in 2010
by KansasCityShuffle on Dec 8, 2009 4:48 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
Pollard
I think he could be most effective on obvious running downs. He’s a big hitter and plays the run well, but looks like he’s getting burned, probably a lot on 3rd down. Smarter use of a player who obviously has some talent could really go a long way.
I'm officially on the 'Draft Eric Berry' train.
Haley-Crennel 2010.
Hits hard but misses tackles
Pollard’s biggest problem has always been he goes for the kill and if he gets it it is exciting. But, so often he misses a chance at an INT or just doesn’t make the tackle because of trying to make the big hit.
Now my world has been turned upside down...
Pollard does actually suck? So cutting him WAS a good move? Next thing you know Derick Johnson will get demoted from starting… Wait whats that… He has… SONUVA BITCH!!!
The Original member of the Ndamukong Suh bandwagon
Comments For This Post Are Closed
Secondary Sidebar
User Tools
Related FanPosts on Arrowhead Pride
FanPosts
Community blog posts and discussion.
Recommended FanPosts
Recent FanPosts
SBNation.com Recent Stories
In Association With
Shutdown Corner - NFL - Yahoo! Sports
- Video: Tim Tebow asked to Military Ball by Louisiana Airwoman
- We’ll see how Brandon Jacobs’ football skills translate to the squared circle
- Bill Belichick wore a hoodie to a golf tournament
- Eagles reportedly will franchise DeSean Jackson, but should they?
- Wife of Chargers tackle Tommie Harris dies at 29
Certain photos copyright © 2012 by Associated Press or Getty Images. Any commercial use or distribution without the express written consent of Associated Press and Getty Images is strictly prohibited.
