Broncos' Clady on Chiefs' Hali: 'He's one of the best in the game'
by Joel Thorman on Dec 8, 2009 10:34 AM CST
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PrintStagdsp mentioned this a few minutes ago but I think it deserves a little more attention.
Denver Broncos LT Ryan Clady was widely considered the best tackle to come out of the 2008 Draft. He had a pretty incredible rookie year on a pretty incredible team.
Last Sunday, he was matched up against the Kansas City Chiefs 'predator' Tamba Hali.
I think we all know the result of that matchup. Hali had the best game of his career with 9 tackles, 2 forced fumbles and 3 sacks extending his team leading 6.5 sacks.
"He's had a lot of almost-sacks and a lot of pressures," Clady said. "I think he's one of the best in the game right now."
Wow.
High praise from one of the NFL's best tackles. Hali was matched up on a tight end a few times (bad idea) but he gave Clady hell for much of the game.
As Doug Farrar of Yahoo! Sports notes, Hali's day was the best sack performance since (you guessed it) Jared Allen in 2005.
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Translated:
"That guy schooled me nearly every play. If I had to play him every game, I’d’ve been labeled a ‘bust’ about 4 weeks into the season."
I wonder how many of the people who thought Tamba wasn’t developing, never would develop, and needed to be cut or traded at the end of last season feel the same way about him now.
Exactly.
He’s really shown up the doubters this year—imagine what another offseason of work on technique and coverage skills will bring.
One more beasty OLB (with Studie as the top OLB reserve) will take our pass rush to the next level, no question.
"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"
-Marty Schottenheimer
by go_saleaumua on Dec 8, 2009 11:51 AM CST up reply actions
Berry at Safety, Norwood at OLB...
that’d be a good start to a draft :)
then grab O’Dowd or Tennant at Center…
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers
People should've seen this coming and some did...
The worry about Hali was his pass coverage as an OLB but he hasn’t been glaringly bad in that area when he’s had to do it. As a pass rusher there shouldve been no doubt that he would be more successful in this defense then in the pass because its closer to what he played in College at a weight that he’s far more comfortable with.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Dec 8, 2009 11:58 AM CST up reply actions
agree completely on the translation
By saying Hali is the best in the game, Clady is essentially just making an excuse for giving up those sacks. What do you expect Clady to say after Hali schools him???
I don't want no Yo-Yos
by CaptainPoopDeck on Dec 8, 2009 10:45 AM CST reply actions
and we could have had them both
sigh
The only measure of true success in the NFL is the Vince Lombardi trophy. Anything less is a rationalization.
Tamba took his ass to church
got held all game long and STILL got 2 sacks……..pretty damn impressive……one of the lone bright spots for sure
Padded by multiple turnovers by the offense.
But, a solid performance nonetheless.
"The first step to penetration... must not be lateral"
-Confucius, in contrary to Glenn Dorsey lining up in the 2-tech
Can't take this for face value
Championship boxers always talk-up their opponent after they get knocked out. It’s a method of saving face. That being said, I think Tamba will be a force to be reckoned with for years to come. The opportunity to rush the passer from a standing position has helped him a lot. I remember in his rookie season he was brought in on 3rd down a lot, and did line up standing sometimes. That, as we all know, was his best year. It is a shame that we don’t have Jared on the other side.
Oponents have been talking about how talented Hali is all year
this isn’t the first time we have heard an opposing player or coach compliment Hali’s play and his motor.
They know he is the biggest, if not the only, major threat on our Defense. The guy never gives up and has been busting his ass all year. He is the only person we have that can put consistent pressure on the QB. He has gotten the D a number of holding penalties because he is beating his man.
Give Tamba some credit! He deserves it. And I won’t even go into the fact that he moved from End to OLB this year.
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by Patrick Allen on Dec 8, 2009 11:11 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah
All the opposing coaches have asked about Hali in interviews and such during game weeks so I don’t think it’s off base.
by Joel Thorman on Dec 8, 2009 11:16 AM CST up reply actions
You know what I've noticed with Tamba
Is that he does get held A LOT but he does a great job of selling it too. If you watch him, when he’s being held he’ll thrust his hips forward and lean back and a hold that may have gone unnoticed becomes an obvious one. This may just be a byproduct of how tenacious he is when going after the passer, but I like to think it’s a move that he developed and he works on. I mean we all know Krumrie didn’t teach him that.
by The Other Patrick Allen on Dec 8, 2009 11:30 AM CST up reply actions
Got to hand it to Gary Gibbs...
He’s a hell of a linebackers’ coach. Mike Vrabel looked like a cadaver last year, and this season he’s been at least serviceable. Studebaker was a practice squad DE at this time in 2008, and Tamba Hali was a #2 end who got blocked out of one out of every two plays. Now Studie’s really coming along, and Tamba is the best kept secret in the NFL.
Now look at our outside linebackers—easily one of the strengths of this team.
"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"
-Marty Schottenheimer
by go_saleaumua on Dec 8, 2009 11:54 AM CST up reply actions
Maybe...
Clady took the Chiefs pass rush a little “lightly” in his preparation?
Whatever the case, nothing should take anything away from the game Hali had.
Hali was definitely the one bright spot,
And I’d like to point out that he HAS been improving week to week, getting constant almosts, and lots of pressure. So now the question becomes what do we need opposite him or on that line to really make it (the Line) solid? Is it one piece, like a serous NT? Or do others need to be replaced? For sure since he was let go we have missed J-Allen. But that’s neither here nor there.
by Eastcoastransplant on Dec 8, 2009 11:37 AM CST reply actions
We need a real NT, no question.
Edwards is an excellent reserve, but doesn’t look/play like a #1 nose tackle for a successful 34 defense.
"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"
-Marty Schottenheimer
by go_saleaumua on Dec 8, 2009 11:56 AM CST up reply actions
I drafted a big fella named Leroy Abrams in my Madden franchise
344 lbs of solid NT. He commands a triple team and virtually every play, and still manages to get good penetration on passing downs.
For justice we must go to Don Pioli
so we get that massive NT
and does that give us all we really need on our front line? I’m just asking here, since things have gotten (it seems) progressively worse in a lot of way. I agree that Edwards is an excellent reserve, but I haven’t been all that impressed with Tyson Jackson. It could be his position, his rookie(ness) or his responsibilities, but he hasn’t become a standout to me. As for Dorsey, I think he’s doing better than last year, but we as line, don’t get consistent pressure on the pass rush. So I’m just up in the air if this is a one position fix or not.
by Eastcoastransplant on Dec 8, 2009 1:30 PM CST up reply actions
honestly
I think Dorsey has been playing VERY well, and Jackson is pretty much where you’d expect him to be…. so he’ll look better next season.
I think a FA NT (wilfork) would provide an IMMEDIATE impact on the DL… a Draft Pick (Cody or Williams) would take a while before you noticed a big change
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers
Hali made Clady his bitch
The sacks are one thing, but 2 sacks while being held….That is just too awesome
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Dec 8, 2009 11:56 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
gotta love it
when a guy has faced so much adversity off the field, and recently on it, then overcomes and has success. I’m so happy for him, and his family. I sat directly behind his fam opening day vs the vikings 2 yrs ago. Good people…
Just like novocaine. give it time; always works..
Hali's been playing great
So does he now have as many sacks as the entire rest of the defense had last season?
He had 3.5 last year and I think all the other guys had 6.5 total, so I think he’s caught up.
by Offense of the 70s on Dec 8, 2009 2:59 PM CST reply actions
i posted last week
that he is the 4th most efficient olb in the league in a 3-4 defnse.
some people thought i was full of it lol. but profootball focus was right, he is a beast.
That photo caption reads
“offensive tackle Ryan Clady, right, blocks Kansas City Chiefs defensive end Tamba Hali”
Looks more like Offensive tackle Ryan Clady uses hands to the face against Chiefs defensive end Tamba Hali.
Indeed.
I saw that pick and thought he was trying to snap his neck.
Give Dorsey some credit too, he collapses the pocket up the middle...
…similar to what Saleumua and Phillips did for DT and Neil Smith.
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