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Having 24 hours to watch the game video and collect his thoughts on Sunday’s blowout loss to Denver didn’t change Todd Haley’s mind on the Chiefs’ quarterback situation.

Matt Cassel, who struggled through his worst game with the Chiefs in the 44-13 loss to the Broncos, will start Sunday’s game against the Buffalo Bills at Arrowhead Stadium.

"I’m going to play the guys that give us the best chance to win, and Matt is one of those guys right now," Haley said. "I feel pretty confident in Matt and his abilities, and he’ll bounce back and have another great week of preparation and give us a chance to beat Buffalo."

Haley sticking with Cassel as Chiefs QB from KC Star

I can live with Jamaal Charles fumbling one more time (barely); I can understand that the jitters got to Matt Cassel (forcefully); I’m aware that Todd Haley still hasn’t developed a knack to pull the successful gimmicks (mercifully), and I completely realize that this team is in a rebuilding mode (realistically). But the thing that I cannot get is how on earth the Chiefs could possibly lay such an enormous egg on Derrick Thomas’ day?

Behind his contagious smile and the need to create havoc on the football field, the thing that moved Derrick Thomas was pride. This was his last hurrah, his posthumous swan song and his closing tribute all rolled into one. Without a doubt, the Chiefs were required to put together a performance worthy of everything he ever gave to Kansas City.

The end result was unacceptable. No matter the talent level, the fact remains that in these kinds of games, you have to deliver a winning effort, even if you come up short in the scoreboard. It’s better than an electrocardiogram because these moments tell the true pulse of a team.

The Lowest Point from Bob Gretz

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The sun came up Monday morning.

It always does, whether the Chiefs have won or lost the day before. But after games like the Broncos 44-13 battering of the Chiefs, more than a few people want to pull the covers over their heads and forget about the pain.

Others crawl out of bed and face the day. That’s what Matt Cassel did on Monday morning. He was up and out the door of his south Kansas City home and into the Chiefs facilities before many of his teammates.

Sunday against Denver may have been the worst performance of his NFL career, but there’s only one way to wash that nasty taste out of your mouth if you are quarterback. That requires getting to the office and getting to work on putting away the past and starting preparation for the future.

But that doesn’t stop the media and fans from continuing their dissection of Cassel’s ugly performance against the Broncos.

Getting Back On Track … Tuesday Cup O’Chiefs from Bob Gretz

You say there is progress being made. Where do you see that?

We are making great progress in the practice area. I think we’ve made great strides. Guys know what’s expected of them. They are pushed hard. They practice hard. They prepare hard. They are meeting extra. They are doing the things necessary to be a good team. Without those things you can’t be a good team. Right now, for whatever reason it’s not translating to Sundays.

From the Mouth of Todd from Bob Gretz

Matt Cassel will be right back under center when the reeling Kansas City Chiefs host Buffalo on Sunday. But what effect will getting benched during a blowout loss to Denver have on the young quarterback?

A positive one, coach Todd Haley insists. Haley also said Monday he's not worried that the leadership he counts on Cassel to provide will be affected by teammates seeing him jerked out of the game and replaced by backup Brodie Coyle.

"No, not in my opinion," Haley said. "Others may have different opinions, but not in my opinion. I think that's a head coach's decision to make, of where the game's at and circumstances surrounding it. Yesterday at that time I thought the best thing for us as a team was to put Brodie in the game and let him play a little bit."

Chiefs seem to be regressing, not progressing from ESPN.com

Last week, we told you about a photo on the Kansas City Chiefs' website that showed mascot KC Wolf kicking the Barrel Man.

Didn't seem funny then, and it got a hellvua lot less humorous when news broke that the Barrel Man, also known as Tim McKernan, died Saturday morning. He was 69.

At least the people at the Chiefs' website were paying attention: By Sunday, the photo above had been taken down from the KC Wolf page, where there's currently no image of the furball at all. But the move was more than a little tardy, especially considering that McKernan has been in ill health for quite some time.

Barrel Man's revenge: Victory over the Chiefs, and the Chiefs' website from Denver Westworld

When I learned Peterson was Persona Non Grata for Sunday’s Derrick Thomas ceremony, it was appalling. How could the Chiefs turn their back on him? How could they disrespect the man who drafted, developed and ensured Thomas was a Chief for life?

Apparently, the new Chiefs have short memories. If Lamar Hunt was still alive, there is no way he would have told Peterson to stay away from a ceremony for a player he affectionately referred to as his "son." Family was important to Hunt. That might not be the case under the current Chiefs’ leadership. To be fair, we don’t know if Peterson’s exclusion was Clark Hunt’s idea or Pioli’s. But both should be ashamed for allowing such a disgrace, especially when you consider how awful the product on the field at Arrowhead is these days. Unless another major shakeup arrives in January, the Chiefs are headed down the path of the Cleveland Browns, Oakland Raiders and Detroit Lions. Without more seasoned football people manning the administration and coaching staff, three and four-win seasons will be the norm in Kansas City for years to come.

It’s amazing how far this franchise has fallen since Hunt passed away. It’s sad to think that for 47 years, I’ve never once been embarrassed to be a Chiefs fan, but that all changed Sunday with the decision to bar Peterson from the halftime ceremony.

Chiefs Give Peterson The Cold Shoulder from WPI

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Come on, WPI...

Yea…I know Carl and DT were close but that would have been a huge distraction and an unnecessary negative reaction from the fans would be guaranteed. No need to mar the celebration that way.

And suggesting the GM has any hand in the guest list for a half time celebration…silliness.

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by woodman212 on Dec 8, 2009 6:49 AM CST reply actions  

He gave a good speech at Canton

He’s a really slick talker, can’t deny CP that…. Plus, how could CP’s presence mar the situtation anymore than the terrible football that was being played? Maybe Pioli didn’t want to see CP’s greasy smile?

by EyePod on Dec 8, 2009 7:05 AM CST up reply actions  

If they don't cut him off now

You can argue he could be at a variety of events over the next few years. The Chiefs don’t want that. Time to cut the cord.

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by Chris Thorman on Dec 8, 2009 7:17 AM CST up reply actions  

Yep

That was a Clark call…I know that for a fact.

by Joel Thorman on Dec 8, 2009 7:22 AM CST up reply actions  

Dude, if anything the decision was made because of the fans...

They knew there was no chance of him being recieved with respect…it would have completely derailed the focus of the event…

You gotta realize that, dude….I wouldn’t be surprised if Carl even told them he didn’t want to be there because he knew that…

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by woodman212 on Dec 8, 2009 10:59 AM CST up reply actions  

No man...

Im saying they knew fully what the fans would do…the large majority would have boo’ed him…

I wouldn’t have…You wouldn’t have….But there are many that aren’t as tactful as us…

Also, I will clarify below…

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by woodman212 on Dec 8, 2009 4:59 PM CST up reply actions  

woody, I absolutely and totally DISAGREE with you on this one

Carl and DT were about as closely aligned as Marty and DT … WPI is right on this one … and your comment amount possible negative reaction from fans says a lot of BAD things about US (the fans) that there would or might be that kind of negativity

and if you don’t think Pioli had a hand in the guest list then I have some real estate I’d like to sell you … among other things

Chris/Joel – it’s not about “cutting the cord” … it’s about respect (and/or lack thereof) … respect and honor and integrity (it was DT’s day, what would DT have wanted? think about that for a minute) … you want to “cut the cord” fine, but don’t cut the memory of DT in half along with it just to make a spiteful point (well, too late now, isn’t it)

I’m sorry, it’s just one more hateful, spiteful, petty thing from Pioli … remember the “non access for former players” thing earlier in the year … same again now, it smacks of arrogance, at the least

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!

by upamtn on Dec 8, 2009 9:04 AM CST up reply actions  

+1.

Peterson should have been there. If they made the decision to exclude him, that is pretty classless.

by JacinB on Dec 8, 2009 9:19 AM CST up reply actions  

The reaction they knew he would get would have been inappropriate....

It was classy to spare the ceremony such a loud negative reaction…

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by woodman212 on Dec 8, 2009 10:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Or, you could let him be on the field, where he belonged.

And just not announce him.

That way, he still gets to take part in the ceremony (which he should’ve been allowed to do) and you spare whatever negative reaction you think there might have been.

For what it’s worth, I think that there were enough Denver fans there and enough Chiefs fans there that would’ve realized why Carl was on the field and his relationship with Derrick that the negativity would’ve been minimal at best.

by JacinB on Dec 8, 2009 11:17 AM CST up reply actions  

How is it Pioli's arrogance?

“That was a Clark call…I know that for a fact.” (Joel)

“I’m sorry, it’s just one more hateful, spiteful, petty thing from Pioli …” (Upamtn)

Upamtn, I get your frustration here but it sounds like this call came from above Scott Pioli. Are you going to blame Pioli when the snowstorm hits the upper Midwest, too? Your take on our current GM is well known—but that’s still no reason to heap blame on him for CP’s absence this weekend.

Like I said, I get where you’re coming from (I blame him for Quinten Lawrence and the absence of speed at LB) but let’s put credit where it’s due, instead of where we want it to lie.

"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"

-Marty Schottenheimer

by go_saleaumua on Dec 8, 2009 10:23 AM CST up reply actions  

LOL.

Have him bring the snowplows to Iowa too.

"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"

-Marty Schottenheimer

by go_saleaumua on Dec 8, 2009 6:28 PM CST up reply actions  

You can say what you want man...

But that stadium would have booed Carl…and that would not have been appropriate for the ceremony but it would have happened.

His absence was not about disrespect, it was about what they (Clark/Carl) knew would happen and whether that was appropriate.

As Joel said, Pioli had no hand in the guest list, it’s fact, not hunch…no thanks on your real estate.

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by woodman212 on Dec 8, 2009 10:56 AM CST up reply actions  

to be honest, I read Joel's comment (on Hunt making decision) before my post (above)

which is why I amended and posted again (below)

still have that cheap land if ya want …

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!

by upamtn on Dec 8, 2009 2:11 PM CST up reply actions  

This is what I think should have happened....after I slept on it, lol...

To be honest, i thought Hunt should have been more personal about the thing and had a microphone and addressed the whole thing. Instead it was like the PA was reading the choreography. e.g. “And now Clark Hunt and Chiefs President Denny Thum will present his mother with the commemorative placard.” etc.

I think the best case would have been for Hunt to have introduced those present and for Peterson said something like “Ladies and gentleman, please welcome our next guest who in large part made Arrowhead and the Chiefs so dominant in the 90’s and earlier this decade. He was extremely close to Derrick and we want to welcome him back here today, please welcome Carl Peterson.”

That might have been enough to keep it classy and remind the crowd that despite the last few years, we owe Peterson a lot…

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by woodman212 on Dec 8, 2009 5:04 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

well said and rec'd, woody

you ARE classy, my friend … we may disagree on some things (hell, we disagree on a ton of things) but you are indeed a gentleman with class and character … thank you!

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by upamtn on Dec 8, 2009 5:52 PM CST up reply actions  

The Nightmares before Christmas

As I toss and turn in the middle of the night. I wake up screaming from an unbelieveable fright. The clock is running and its 3rd & 9, Bobby Wade just dropped another pass for the fourth time. I see a figure in pain not knowing whats the matter, I take a look closer and its Matt Cassel. He says he’s hurting from the abuse, the o-line is leaking, and he has the proof. And now he’s alone with nowhere to go, a nightmarish situation without Dewayne Bowe. Amongst all this another frightful sight, The secondary just got burned, “Touchdown\Mike Brown”, oh well, it ryhmes right!

by imur#1fan on Dec 8, 2009 8:08 AM CST reply actions  

"I’m going to play the guys that give us the best chance to win ..."

Bull Freaking Sheet on that, Todd … because if you did, then Croyle would be starting not just this week, but the rest of the year

one more reason I so want Haley (and Pioli) to go: lies, lies and more lies

best player at position? please … competition? give me a break … honesty? out the window with baby and the bath water (and Bernard Pollard)

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!

by upamtn on Dec 8, 2009 8:44 AM CST reply actions  

Awesome.
We are making great progress in the practice area. I think we’ve made great strides. Guys know what’s expected of them. They are pushed hard. They practice hard. They prepare hard. They are meeting extra. They are doing the things necessary to be a good team. Without those things you can’t be a good team. Right now, for whatever reason it’s not translating to Sundays.

Maybe we should just play tapes of them practicing on Sundays, then, instead of broadcasting the games. I mean, at least then we could feel good about how hard our team is working, right?

by JacinB on Dec 8, 2009 9:20 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

Or, how about this ... ?

When a play gets blown up on the field, run what it looked like in practice on the jumbotrons. That way, the people who paid the jacked up ticket prices to get into the stadium can at least see how it was supposed to work.

by JacinB on Dec 8, 2009 9:22 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Im with you Bob(Gretz)

one of the main reasons I was sooo disappointed after sundays game is the fact that it was DT’s day. It was the first thing I thought of. Normally a team, no matter how bad, will play with great emotion and may lose but make a game respectable when honoring a former player on a special day. It’s actually a reason to bet on a team to cover(if you are a bettin’ man) and hardly ever fails. Didnt seem like they had it right from the start but that Tamba character sure did. It was almost like he WAS DT….

On another note….I didnt realize Carl wasnt there Sunday. Was he really not invited? I agree he should have been. Makes me wonder what went down between he and Clark…but with the class the Hunts have always shown Im very surprised and curious…

Finally…the article about the absent Peterson mentioned that Pioli and Haley rarely speak? Hmmmmmmmmm….

Just like novocaine. give it time; always works..

by be cee on Dec 8, 2009 9:26 AM CST reply actions  

Yeah, that was the first I remember hearing that.
Finally…the article about the absent Peterson mentioned that Pioli and Haley rarely speak?

It certainly needs some looking into.

by NJ Chiefs Fan on Dec 8, 2009 10:20 AM CST up reply actions  

Just another terrible story from WPI...

Are they drinking the anti-Kool Aid over there or what?

"Gonna gallop all over the Chiefs. Cleat prints on the chests. Mud in the face masks." - 2.7* *Yes I know it was changed to 2.9 but f*ck the statisticians.

by Kristospherein on Dec 8, 2009 10:44 AM CST reply actions  

caption this?

just took a second glance at the photo here. Looks like Haley is saying or thinking “what in sam hills name are you thinking, son,” and cassel looks totally perplexed as if he doesnt have any idea..

tough crowd..

Just like novocaine. give it time; always works..

by be cee on Dec 8, 2009 11:50 AM CST reply actions  

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