he ended up on his face anyway, shoulda just went to the ground in the first place trying to get it.

“Its no big deal. I was just matching the behavior of my coach.”

He his him in stride. For all the bitching around here about how bad Cassel is throwing the long ball I think he should be getting some props for that throw.

Wade is an ass. He had maybe one of the worst games I have ever seen yesterday. He dropped about 8 passes that hit him in the hands.

Cassel had a bad game yesterday for sure but the receiving was worse. Chambers vanished and Wade couldn’t catch a cold.

And when you combine that with poor hands, you’re out of luck. None of the Chiefs receivers are exceptionally quick. Result: Can’t get seperation. Result: Passes have to be on target (lacking yesterday). And when they are on target, you simply have to catch them. Slowness equals losing in the NFL. Get quick to get better.

Wade should have caught it and cassel should have hit him in stride

We can only go so far with waiver-wire receivers… We have to fix this in the off-season.

The ones where they (Pioli) try to flip a house and initially they think it’s going to come down to repairing and replacing a few things but as they start to tear away at the walls they start noticing more and more problems. I’m not saying all of it is on Carl Peterson, or that he’s specifically to blame, but he was the last resident in this house and holy crap is there a lot of wood rot and moldy walls.

Or if he would have lost his balance or if he had fallen would he have been able to get up and score. Because Wade didn’t bother to try. He made a piss poor effort to get to that ball.

It’s unfair to criticize Cassel for that play. Lord knows there are plenty of other things to criticize him for in this putrid game.

We lost the game and I can deal with that,but did the whole CBS crew have to make fun of us?

For us to stay in and the win in the Pittsburgh game we played mistake free in all aspects of the game. MISTAKE FREE. We don’t, as has been mentioned numerous times, have the talent to to stay competitive when we make mistakes, especially numerous ones. In the Pitt game we hung in there, and then jumped on the opportunities when they presented themselves (plus the JC KR).

The last two weeks? We’ve played so awfully, so full of mistakes it’s like, hell I don’t even have a good analogy, it’s just bad. Yesterday, we blew the opportunities when they presented themselves, dropped the passes we shouldn’t have (Wade dropped plenty more than this one), fumbled the ball when it hurt us the most, and threw interceptions. Both games (Chargers and Denver) took advantage of the opportunities we gave them scoring 20 plus points on turnovers. Neither game did we take advantage of the opps they gave us – namely cuz they didn’t give us many.

Take away those mistakes and the points of turnovers and of course it’s a different ballgame.

Point being, we’re shooting ourselves in the foot and don’t have the talent to overcome those bullet wounds.

Pioli better spend some capital this off-season if he wants to pull this team out of the crapper for the rest of the next decade. We can hash out who’s to blame for the 1Q Wade dropped ball…….the fact is, Cassel is not good enough to overcome slow recievers who can’t catch when they DO get open which is hardly ever…….Cassel is simply a mediocre QB who can’t make many throws to recievers who can’t make manty catches. This was an epic FAIL on Pioli’s part & he better seriously over compensate this off season if this team is to ever be a contender again. Cassel had ALL DAY to throw, & couldn’t find anybody.

But this reminds me of callmesir’s issues with Haley’s style.

Seems to me these guys are all pros, and there’s little to be gained by venting your spleen on a guy, who knows perfectly well what he did wrong, and it will be pointed out to him in film sessions if he doesn’t. Thing is, a mean-spirited ass-chewing does NOT ensure success on the next attempt. In fact, the research shows that people respond better when you don’t chew out their ass like they’re children (not that ass-chewings are all that great for kids, either).

This comment isn’t aimed at the first (debatable) muff, but at the rest of the drops the usually sure-handed WR committed. You don’t have to be Mr. Nice Guy. But you don’t have to be hurtful in order to hold people accountable. I’ll give Haley the push on this, because it’s football, and players need emotional armor to deal with the demands of the game. But I think it’s counterproductive, in general, to vent your spleen on someone, if your purpose is to produce a better result the next time around. It’s enough that the guys’ health and future earnings potential are on the line with every snap of the ball.

and a great O line. but seriously, Bozo the clown would IMPROVE under those circumstances too. If you really want a mediocre QB that needs tons of work then you should be thrilled. I am not.

I just dont see that everyone except Rich Gannon that commentates can ALL be dead wrong. He is not spoken of as a good QB or a great QB by ANYONE> EVER!! For a reason. Causeeeeeeee tuh duh…HE’S NOT!

Of course he would do better under better circumstances. That’s the obvious. but he obviously isn’t an elite QB either. Do you want an elite like Drew Brees or average one like Cassel?

It’s not just me or some of us on here. It’s professional sports writers, talent evaluators and former NFL QB’s that are saying he is what his stats say he is. There’s no magic bullet that is going to fix everything once he gets adjusted.

Brett Favre can come into any team with no training camp and run the table. That’s what I want. I want a Favre caliber QB. Don’t you really? If we could get that Drew brees wouldn’t you want it? Well, guess what? Pioli is the God father right? then let him go do his thing.

You don’t bench drew brees. You bench Cassel. I hear you and your hope of what could be. But it’s all just still just speculation. Your talking about the land of “what if”. Sure he COULD become the next Joe Montana. But I’m not trying to pretend or daydream about what COULD happen. In front of my face and the rest of America’s face, in other words, reality, is he is not a consistent QB.

I’m talking about plays where he has time to throw. Lot’s of time. He still can’t get the ball where it needs to be on a consistent basis. He blew that long bomb to chambers and cost us the td. He hit engram in the end zone on the helmet. he hit the defender on the helmet. And while all this was going on he was busy fumbling in between int’s.

I know you need to something to believe in guys. We all do, I do. but pretending isn’t going to make anything change. Cassel is what you see. He’s 27. He’s NOT a rookie and he’s a highly paid pro QB in the NFL. What else should you expect from him but to be solid and to be great? He doesn’t have a lawn business. He doesn’t make pizza’s. Or I would just say well at least he’s good at the lawn business thing. But I can’t say that. He has NO other purpose than to get the ball to an open receiver and to do so accurately.

He has not done that on a consistent basis all year long. Not even for one whole game. My god he just set his own personal record for lousiness on Sunday. That’s not improvement. That’s getting worse. How do you justify that he was doing better earlier in the season? You can’t. He has Chambers now and Charles making plays.

Everyone swore to God that if he had a RB to help take some of the pressure off of him, we’de see improvement. It’s always something though. Now that he has a running game and has had considerably more time to throw the ball over the last 2 weeks, what’s his excuse now? How about we quit making excuses and let him accept the responsiblity for his actions. He is responsible for his lousy play. No one else. He’s our QB, he took the job and now he needs to find a way to get it done.

And Collinsworth is right but he’s only voicing what several other x NFL players who would know what their talking about have been saying all along. Cassel is an average QB.

man there is such a HUGE difference between a quality winning team that has bought into their coach’s approach and our pathetic Chiefs

If you didn’t know any teams in the NFL. If you came in blind. You didn’t know anything about any team what so ever. Would you look at the stats and the record and would you pick Cassel for your QB? Really? And if not why not? Picking in the blind with no knowledge other than the HARD COLD FACTS that don’t lie. Would you pick Cassel out the entire NFL to lead your team? Think on that for a sec. It matters. Because that would be a decision based on reality, on facts, on proof. Not emotion and not a biased opinion as a fan.

so if you went with pure facts, pure reality you and I know you would never take Cassel. None of us would. I admire your ability to see the endless possibilites despite what’s on your TV in front of you every Sunday. That’s cool that you have that ability. I don’t. I go on facts and facts alone.

Hey I am not being negative either. I believe in the Chiefs. I love and support them. Doesn’t change a thing. We stink. Cassel stinks and the Chiefs suck this year. Admitting you have a problem is the first step toward recovery. We haven’t recovered since the 60’s. Don’t you think it’s time we stop pretending and get serious?

It was about waiting to see if a rookie QB would pan out and then finding out they wouldn’t and starting over. Hey listen. What happened to the optimism? Why couldn’t we just draft a QB and he become a success? If your worried about that then you really might wonna consider picking on a different sport. Cause that draft risk each year is part of life in the NFL. Taking a risk on a draft pick is a central part of the NFL period. It goes with the territory. That’s just part of the job pal. No way around it.

Cassel isn’t Matt Ryan either. Matt is a true second year rookie. Cassel is 27 and he’s been in the league a long time now behind Brady no less. He’s not a rookie. Using that comparison is not valid. Brady has had the best teacher for years now. And the best coaching in McDaniles and Hoodie and Brady. My God what else does he need?

Aaron Rodgers was no different. When he got his turn he did his job. Despite the worst O line in football quite possibly. Despite more sacks, more hurries. Yes he has better recievers and I acknowledge that. But that’s 100% of the problem here. Cassel screws up when he has NO pressure. He fumbles more than anyone. He’s a mess.

He threw for 84 yards.

I wish more upper management would yell at Haley after fake punts, well fake punt formations, turned into pee wee league play, I know it was open, but has anyone ever heard of a side step, or a pump fake? The point is that the play should have been called differently, should have called a punt, it was the 1st drive of the half and only down one possession, Todd Todd Todd, when will you learn?