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Chiefs Coach: 'I'm very confident in Matt Cassel'

As I was making my way to the Chiefs locker room after the game, a few Denver columnists wondered whether we were preparing to write any pieces on a quarterback controversy.

"No," I said. "Why would I?"

Though QB Matt Cassel did not finish the game, he was not "benched" in the traditional sense of the word. His play wasn't pretty, that's for sure, but the game was out of hand at that moment.

He's coming back next week and he'll be the starter.

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"To me," Haley told reporters, "the game was at a point where it was going to be very difficult for us to even et in the game and it was a chance to get Brodie some snaps."

Just for good measure, is Cassel the starting quarterback next week?

"Yes."

Quarterback controversy?  Not for a while (if ever). Cassel is Haley's guy going forward and there's no question about it.

"I'm still very confident in Matt," Haley said. "Our first series we had a chance to make a huge play on third down. I thought Matt prepared and was ready to go.  The game didn't go the way he or we wanted it to go and then we let some negative things happen."

Cassel had a miserable performance. There's no question about it he was like JaMarcus Russel's clone today. But the Chiefs were down by four touchdowns when Croyle came in. The Chiefs were protecting one of their assets and seeing what they've got in another.

"We'll be alright, we'll bounce back," Croyle said after the game. "We've got two more home games so we need to get better."

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Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!

by upamtn on Dec 6, 2009 6:29 PM CST up reply actions  

that's a john mckay quote and i love it

The only players I hurt with my words are the ones who have an inflated opinion of their ability. I can't worry about that.
Bill Parcells

Knowledge is confidence. And confidence lets you play fast.
Bill Parcells

by kcguy on Dec 6, 2009 8:23 PM CST up reply actions  

There could have been no question about Cassel vs. Croyle

At this point, Croyle is a no win situation. Even if he were to take over and do really well, he’s already proven he can’t stay healthy. He’s not the answer.

Better to keep slogging along with Cassel and hope he plays better with better pieces around him.

by ChiefDJ on Dec 6, 2009 5:38 PM CST reply actions  

with all due respect, I disagree

first, Haley’s blowing smoke out there … if he has confidence in Cassel then why pull him? if he’s serious about competition and the best player out there every week, then Croyle HAS to be given a start at this point

if Haley’s lying about real competition on the team, then I don’t want him as HC of “my” team … if he thinks Cassel is the best QB (right now) he’s delusional … if he doesn’t want the best player he’s NOT what I want as a HC either

is Croyle “the answer?” doubful, but after today’s performance by Cassel, Croyle should have a few starts … it MAY not help, but nothing, and I mean NOTHING, could possibly be worse than today

one last point: Haley needs to seriously fire the OC … NOW!!!

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!

by upamtn on Dec 6, 2009 6:34 PM CST up reply actions  

You pull him for the same reason you pull your starter when you are up by 30

You let your back-up get some work and keep your starter from getting killed in a no-win situation.

by vincent2668 on Dec 6, 2009 6:41 PM CST up reply actions  

been many other times Croyle could have played if that's your "definition"

but he hasn’t … which is more the shame, IMNSHO

Cassel is NOT getting it done … he’s not the ONLY reason, dropped passes kill us, but in general he’s just looking “Lost In Space”

Croyle did a better job and that was when Denver knew we were going to throw … no, Cassel needs to sit a few games and Croyle needs to be the “Designated Driver” for now … again, if Haley is serious about having the best players out there, it NEEDS to be Croyle, simply because Cassel is NOT the best and NOT getting it done … and if Haley doesn’t want the best guy in each spot, he needs to be gone as OC and HC like now

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!

by upamtn on Dec 6, 2009 6:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Problem with Croyle is that he cannot stay healthy

In two seasons he’s proven that. I love the guy and have been a huge Croyle homer, but he’s a lost cause. Doesn’t matter if you’re the best QB in the NFL if you are always getting knocked out of the game.

For that reason alone, I’d just as soon see Cassel out there working with the offense. As bad as he’d played, he has a better chance of being the long term answer than anyone else on the team right now.

by ChiefDJ on Dec 6, 2009 6:47 PM CST up reply actions  

I just like watching Croyle throw.

Cassel throws okay, but not a lot on it. Then Croyle comes in with his laser pistol. Man, that is fun to watch.

I remember Dawson to Taylor, Kenney to Carson, and Blackledge catching the snap in his facemask. Seen it all...

by BinSC on Dec 6, 2009 6:49 PM CST up reply actions  

+2

Predictions as of 06.24.2009.

Larry Johnson will be a top 3 fantasy pick once again in 2010 (after a monster season in 2009.)
Dwayne Bowe will be a 2009 Pro Bowl selection.
Brandon Flowers will have at least 6 INTs in 2009 season.
Todd Haley will have a sideline shouting match caught on TV yelling at one of his asst. coaches.

by 58 was my friend on Dec 7, 2009 12:34 AM CST up reply actions  

Cassel needs to go

I was never happy about the Cassell signing, but hoped I was just being negative, and not seeing what all the talking heads who hyped him up saw in this guy. But he’s not done a single thing this entire season to make me think he’s ever going to be a top 15 – 20 QB in the NFL. He seems like a nice guy. Appears to be professional and perhaps a decent leader. But he’s been brutal for us all season. I recognize that we have issues at receiver, OL and RB. I know he can’t do it all nor be a miracle worker. But I’d hoped to see ‘something’ from him, and I honestly haven’t. As much as I dislike Haley, Cassell was our biggest mistake in the offseason IMO. But more than likely, we’re stuck with him for the next year or two.

by Detroit Buckets on Dec 6, 2009 5:40 PM CST reply actions  

+1

Cassel might indeed be in a few more wins for the Chiefs. He is no better than a game-manager type QB. I compare him very much like a Rex Grossman in Chicago. Lovie Smith would never bench or talk anything negative about Rex back in the days even when Rex had games like the ones Matt had today. Matt was a mistake right from the beginning but Pioli gave him the fat contract – now we’re stuck with him cuz its more than just losses, Pioli can’t let his reputation for making his 1st blockbuster trade look like a mistake. I’m sad but its gonna be + years of mediocre play with #7.

Predictions as of 06.24.2009.

Larry Johnson will be a top 3 fantasy pick once again in 2010 (after a monster season in 2009.)
Dwayne Bowe will be a 2009 Pro Bowl selection.
Brandon Flowers will have at least 6 INTs in 2009 season.
Todd Haley will have a sideline shouting match caught on TV yelling at one of his asst. coaches.

by 58 was my friend on Dec 7, 2009 12:38 AM CST up reply actions  

I'd be shocked if Haley said otherwise

I didn’t get to see the game today (I’ll have to watch it online later) but I’d have to see some serious issues, and have do some juvenile things, like point fingers and say it’s not his fault (I’m looking at you, Jamarcus). I’m still on the Cassel Kool-Aid bandwagon.

-"A man may be a fool and not know it, but not if he is married." - H.L. Mencken

by Big Chief on Dec 6, 2009 5:40 PM CST reply actions  

One thing you will see is that Cassel had loads of time today.

The OL did a great job. The sacks were on Cassel. He seemed very indecisive today and couldn’t pull the trigger on many occasions. He was just terrible. Easily his worst game. It looked like he didn’t have a grasp of the offense. Drops didn’t help (again), but he missed many of the throws he did make. The long pass in the first series to Wade was over thrown. The one mistake you don’t make is to over throw a guy that wide open. He could have under thrown by 5 yards and Wade still could have scored.

Cassel needs to watch Croyle a little. He makes read and pulls the trigger. Cassel keeps looking and looking until he is under pressure. Can’t do that and expect to have good results.

I remember Dawson to Taylor, Kenney to Carson, and Blackledge catching the snap in his facemask. Seen it all...

by BinSC on Dec 6, 2009 5:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Lenny and Mitch were saying that Cassel had time today and gave credit to the line

That is a big plus, especially considering what this D has done so far this year.

-"A man may be a fool and not know it, but not if he is married." - H.L. Mencken

by Big Chief on Dec 6, 2009 6:44 PM CST up reply actions  

everyone

Has Haley scared to go for it now. He should have went for it on 4th and 1. And on a few other plays, he should have made better calls.

1st and goal from the 1
3rd and 1, has Cassel throwing the ball.

I think we are a few players and an OC and DC away from being a better team.

by kc571 on Dec 6, 2009 5:47 PM CST reply actions  

I say it every week

Cassel needs to be benched. I think Brodie is ready. I think he is more mature than Matt and has a lot more confidence.

by choirboy on Dec 6, 2009 5:52 PM CST reply actions  

croyle, cassel.....

whats the difference? it makes none!!!!! anyone with half a football brain can see that it really doesnt matter who the qb is!!!! our problems run much deeper than qb!!!!! o-line, coaching, fumbles, dropped passes, defensive tackling and assignments, pass rush, play calling, you name it. take your pick!!!!

Just like novocaine. give it time; always works..

by be cee on Dec 6, 2009 5:58 PM CST up reply actions  

QB is the most important player on the team

Cassel is NOT good. Even a crappy team with a good QB has a chance to win. I say what the hell? Let’s see if Brodie is any better now than he was. If he get’s hot and plays great, awesome! we know we have to resign him and think about starting him. If he plays terrible…oh well, throw MC back out there. We have nothing to lose. I will say this, I think Croyle looks waaaay more comfortable out there than Cassel does. He is better at throwing the deep pass than Cassel, get’s rid of the ball more quickly, has a better arm and pocket awareness. Really, when I think about it, every aspect of his game is better than Cassel.

by Chiefsfan1970 on Dec 6, 2009 7:44 PM CST up reply actions  

agreed

i think croyle has grown up a bit since then and he’s ready now. with herm here we had bad leadership with a bad team. now we have good leadership with a bad team

by kcchiefs19 on Dec 7, 2009 2:58 AM CST up reply actions  

Yep

I don’t know why people don’t want to see it. Brodie is in his third season on a terrible team. His coaching has been suspect and his injuries worse..all the while he’s done what was asked of him and it does show. He’s more comfortable in the pocket, he protects the ball, and he’s matured while injured/benched.

If you can’t see the difference in these two QBs you’re lying to yourself.

The Oakland Raiders stand to lose a lot more money on Russell than what we’ll lose on Cassel…but they finally made a decision and it got them a “W” yesterday.

by Knocknheads on Dec 7, 2009 1:37 PM CST up reply actions  

You have to start somewhere

Haley’s changes every other position if they have a uniform infraction. Maybe, just maybe, we have a problem at QB. Cassel never shows improvement.

by choirboy on Dec 6, 2009 6:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Actually

Matt shows improvement against NFC teams, or AFC teams not in the west, but in the west he takes a huge step back every time. Maybe it’s he’s young and can’t handle the pressure of divisional games in KC.

Maybe it’s his team mates, I quit watching when the team looked like it gave up.

Maybe I was right and he wasn’t worth a second round pick.

Who really knows, on this team you can find excuses for anyones play if you try hard enough.

I think this team needs to mature, and so does Cassel, if he keeps playin like this, give Brodie a real shot.

by mcclanahanman on Dec 6, 2009 6:25 PM CST up reply actions  

and what real opportunity has Croyle been given?

Cassel’s Contract was penciled in … no, magic markered in, as starter before the ink was dry

thus far he’s proven himself less than capable at best, and horrendous at worst … the old line rings true here: doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is insanity … Haley keeps putting Cassel out there but the results stay the same: poor timing, poor throws, poor decision making in the pocket

we need a different result … that means doing something different … that means Croyle

he couldn’t possibly do worse … are all the Cassel Apologists afraid that Croyle might actually be better? hmmmmmmmmmm …

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!

by upamtn on Dec 6, 2009 6:51 PM CST up reply actions  

I actually think you are dead right about that.

People on here have been dissing Brodie for so long, if he does play great (or at least better than MC) they are going to look like dumbasses for not seeing that he is the better of the 2. I actually DO think he is better but, hey that’s just me.

I mentioned the same thing earlier today.

by Chiefsfan1970 on Dec 6, 2009 7:52 PM CST up reply actions  

And then the next play he will be knocked out for the season

Thats the problem with Croyle, and the only problem that matters.

You can’t win games on IR.

by ChiefDJ on Dec 6, 2009 7:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Sooo, with that crystal ball of yours...

Can you tell me who’s going to win the Super Bowl this year. I want to go ahead and get my bet in now. Thanks Nostradamus.

by Chiefsfan1970 on Dec 6, 2009 8:01 PM CST up reply actions  

I can't tell the future, but I can read the past

Croyle had serious injuries his entire college career. He’s been seriously hurt and missed games three times in the last two years with the Chiefs.

He can’t string enough games together to do this team any good.

They need to be looking for the QB of the future. Cassel has a much better chance of that than Croyle.

by ChiefDJ on Dec 6, 2009 10:09 PM CST up reply actions  

If that's the worst that happens,

then Cassel starts again. There is no real loss to the team. Who cares if he’s on the bench or IR, if he’s off the field it’s the same.

You can’t not start Brodie because of injury worries. Rally, what of any importance do we have to lose?

by NJ Chiefs Fan on Dec 6, 2009 8:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes you can not start Brodie because of injury worries

Listen, I was the biggest Croyle supporter out there. But who starts on a 3-9 team really doesn’t make much difference except for the good it will do in the future.

We already know Croyle cannot stay healthy for an entire season. Hell, we’d be lucky if he stayed healthy for 3 games in a row. You can’t build a team around that.

As much as I like Croyles talents and potential, they are meaningless as far as being a starting QB that you build your team around if he can’t stay healthy, which he cant.

by ChiefDJ on Dec 6, 2009 10:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Trent Green started his career with one injury after another...

Then he came to KC and a pretty solid run. You don’t know that Croyle will get hurt. Nobody knows that.

by Chiefsfan1970 on Dec 6, 2009 10:11 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't get it????

You said yourself above that Croyle makes quicker reads and has a better arm. Those qualities would tell me that he is overall a better QB. If you really believe that, why would you say it does us no good now???

I personally think Croyle IS a better QB than Matt Cassel. The kid was born with a cannon.

by Chiefsfan1970 on Dec 6, 2009 10:14 PM CST up reply actions  

I have liked Croyle since he played at Alabama

But he cannot stay healthy. I don’t care if he has Tom Brady type ability. He can’t stay healthy more than 3 or 4 games without a serious injury taking him out half the season.

If he’s not on the field, you can’t build a team around him. Thats all that matters.

I like watching the kid play and was excited to see him play today. But no matter what he does, no matter how much better he plays than Cassel, he can never be our franchise guy because he will never stay healthy.

by ChiefDJ on Dec 6, 2009 10:29 PM CST up reply actions  

if nothing else

temporary elevated play allows for the rest of the team to develop better.

so for that reason, i tend to disregard the injury argument against allowing croyle to play.

he was injured. injured bad.

by troy145 on Dec 6, 2009 10:46 PM CST up reply actions  

DJ, you're making assumptions that might never happen ... not to mention infusing negativity into the discussion (shame on you young man)

seriously, Croyle could end up being light years ahead of Cassel – if your point is The Future (and that’s a valid reference point) then Croyle should have a chance to work with 1st Team and start for a month… because he COULD BE our QB Of The Future – if he doesn’t pan out, we’ve lost nothing but a few games – as this season is evaluative more than anything (I’ve said that for months) I think it would be criminal for Haley NOT to give Croyle a chance

better pocket presense, far better arm, better throws … wow, sounds like a Better QB to me … didn’t Haley say something about “competion” and “the best players playing” each week? or is our HC a lying bastard who should be fired for being blinded by his own BS?

Croyle starting or Haley on the street with 22 other guys … right now either one works for me

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!

by upamtn on Dec 7, 2009 8:54 AM CST up reply actions  

The Cassel Apologists...

Always refer back to when Brodie was starting his career with a rapidly declining team that just about turned into a practice squad for the NFL. He took his beatings, and got hurt a few times, but it certainly looks like it gave him some valuable experience with pocket presence and releasing the ball quickly. Cassel had to sit out a few games at the beginning of the season, due to an injury, because the OL did not protect him either, but Brodie filled in and didn’t get hurt in the first game of the season and every other time Brodie has come in. In case the Cassel Pom Pom Squad hasn’t noticed, opposing defenses have not let up on pounding the shit out of Brodie when he has been in, and he didn’t get hurt.
Brodie accepted his demotion with grace, has been a supportive team player, and has done what has been asked of him. Remember, Brodie didn’t get his first NFL experience with a Super Bowl contender team, like Cassel. If their roles were reversed and Brodie had been the starter all season driving the offense into the ground, he would have already been benched. Brodie has already experienced what Cassel is going through now, but he is more accurate and has a better arm than Cassel will ever have. And yes, it does show.

by WyattChief on Dec 6, 2009 7:55 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

opportunity?

he was given the keys to the Chiefs and couldnt stay healthy and never has won a game thats what opportunity he had

by tomahawk44 on Dec 6, 2009 8:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Witha coach who wouldn't let him throw the ball and an O-line that was yes, even worse than the one we have now.

Croyle never had a chance to shine in the Herm Edwards offense. Let’s give him the keys and see if he can win for us. If not, we don’t have to re-sign him after this year. If he plays great, we know we have to keep him around in case Cassel doesn’t get better. I don’t think Cassel is going to get better without spending some time on the bench anyway. I think it is exactly what he needs to get his head out of his ass.

by Chiefsfan1970 on Dec 6, 2009 8:36 PM CST up reply actions  

+10
I don’t think Cassel is going to get better without spending some time on the bench anyway. I think it is exactly what he needs to get his head out of his ass.

Predictions as of 06.24.2009.

Larry Johnson will be a top 3 fantasy pick once again in 2010 (after a monster season in 2009.)
Dwayne Bowe will be a 2009 Pro Bowl selection.
Brandon Flowers will have at least 6 INTs in 2009 season.
Todd Haley will have a sideline shouting match caught on TV yelling at one of his asst. coaches.

by 58 was my friend on Dec 7, 2009 12:48 AM CST up reply actions  

i think croyle has grown up a bit since then and he’s ready now. with herm here we had bad leadership with a bad team. now we have good leadership with a bad team

by kcchiefs19 on Dec 7, 2009 3:03 AM CST up reply actions  

Croyle was the defacto starter for two seasons

both times he got hurt and didn’t play much. And won exactly zero games. Croyle gets his chance when Cassel goes down and not before in my book.

-"A man may be a fool and not know it, but not if he is married." - H.L. Mencken

by Big Chief on Dec 6, 2009 8:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes, actually you can

it’s called improvement through repetition. It’s been known to do wonders in the NFL. Incredibly teams that give QBs the opportunity to develop and gives players more than a season in a system tend to do better. Teams that stick with their plan for several seasons become regulars to championship games. Continuity is a good thing. Spastic changes lead to being the Redskins or the Browns.

-"A man may be a fool and not know it, but not if he is married." - H.L. Mencken

by Big Chief on Dec 6, 2009 10:58 PM CST up reply actions  

improvement through repetition???

repeathing the same wrong actions over and over doesn’t lead to improvement in anything … a pitcher reapeating the same arm or wrist movement will continue to throw balls out of the stike zone (or get hammered) … a bowler repeatedly missing his mark or turning his wrist will continue to get 7-10 splits and lose …

teams that stick with the plan for several seasons … oh, like the chance Herm was given? (no, wait … he had one year with his players) … ok, the Lions … yeah, the same thing over and over and sticking with the plan has resulted in … historically bad teams

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!

by upamtn on Dec 7, 2009 9:01 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

there is nothing more to discuss

the whole coaching staff and team stinks. any pro team that allows the domination we allowed today, at home in our own house has either A) no talent whatsoever B) no pride/character C) no coaching to put them into a position to utilize their talents

to me, it doesnt matter which one. simply put…..it happens time and time again and im personally sick of it. not sure i want to post here anymore because im tired of bitching one week, and being positive the next. not even week to week, buit more post to post. after watching today, im sick. i just cant fathom that performance other than tamba hali’s performance, we had no pride and no sense of honoring the greatest LB in our history. i almost went to the game today and spent huindreds of dollars i really dont have and now im glad i didnt.

Just like novocaine. give it time; always works..

by be cee on Dec 6, 2009 5:55 PM CST reply actions  

Finger pointed at the wrong person?
not sure i want to post here anymore because im tired of bitching one week, and being positive the next. not even week to week, buit more post to post. after watching today, im sick.

Weren’t you quoted on 11/22 as saying “F you all you doubters and haley haters”? Wouldn’t that be, like, exactly what you’re talking about?

I think we just need to calm down and address what we perceive as the problems in a rational manner. It’s hard not to get out of hand when you lose 87-27 over two weeks but we’ve gotta do it.

by Joel Thorman on Dec 6, 2009 6:01 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Your Right

Joel as long as team learns something from it all. I watched Buffalo back on Thursday and think we have a pretty good chance of winning that one if our defense does not lay another giant egg. Believe Charles will have a big day against them.

by DLChiefs on Dec 6, 2009 6:26 PM CST up reply actions  

We've got the Bills and Browns left

Two more shots to win. But, who knows which team will show up? We could lose to both then beat the Broncos next month?

by Joel Thorman on Dec 6, 2009 6:27 PM CST up reply actions  

At this point

don’t you think maybe the Browns and Bills have KC circled as probable wins for them? We certainly haven’t shown to be better than either of those two teams.

I remember Dawson to Taylor, Kenney to Carson, and Blackledge catching the snap in his facemask. Seen it all...

by BinSC on Dec 6, 2009 6:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Yep

Bills definitely. Browns fans may have resigned themselves to the fact that it’s over for them.

by Joel Thorman on Dec 6, 2009 6:43 PM CST up reply actions  

I think it's time to ask what make us better than the Browns or Bills?

Are we just saying that since they are the 2 worst teams record wise that they are our best shots at winning or we truely believe we have a better team then both of these teams?
I’m just starting to wonder if it is a situation in which we as Chiefs fans have always looked at ourselves and said at least we are not as bad as the Browns or Det…at what point do we say “we are the new Browns of the NFL”?

by vincent2668 on Dec 6, 2009 6:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Once you get to the bottom of the barrel, its a free for all

Look at the Lions vs. Browns game a few weeks ago. Two horrible horrible teams that got together and it was an entertaining game.

I certainly don’t believe we are better than any of those teams. But you can only get so low. I think we are clearly the equal of the Browns.

by ChiefDJ on Dec 6, 2009 6:50 PM CST up reply actions  

What a sad discussion this is...

I remember Dawson to Taylor, Kenney to Carson, and Blackledge catching the snap in his facemask. Seen it all...

by BinSC on Dec 6, 2009 6:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Better??? LOL
time to ask what make us better than the Browns or Bills?

We have a high profile GM and the Browns don’t? We sign a 2008 over-achiever in #7 and the Bills sign a diva in #81?

LOL

Predictions as of 06.24.2009.

Larry Johnson will be a top 3 fantasy pick once again in 2010 (after a monster season in 2009.)
Dwayne Bowe will be a 2009 Pro Bowl selection.
Brandon Flowers will have at least 6 INTs in 2009 season.
Todd Haley will have a sideline shouting match caught on TV yelling at one of his asst. coaches.

by 58 was my friend on Dec 7, 2009 12:53 AM CST up reply actions  

We may or may not win

against the Bills and Browns, but at least those will look more like football games. Games worth watching. Not the slaughter we saw today.

by Chiefs4Life on Dec 6, 2009 6:49 PM CST up reply actions  

yes joel

i’m just emotionallt spent. i’ve been a huge fan my entire life. with friends, family traditions every sunday, etc. i moved to nw arkansas 3 yrs ago and cant get the coverage or go to games as much, and im looking for something with my passion…football, mainly chiefs football, to give me an emotional high i reckon. I guess ive always viewed myself as the ultimate fan because i gripe when we are bad and love when we are good….but no matter what, i will always love the chiefs. i try to be positive and have faith, as my mother who got me started as a boy has always taught me. her words: “oh ye of little faith!” we are catholic if you couldnt tell, but my passion is such that when things are good i want to shout it from a mountain top, and when things are bad, i want to do the same. i hope you, and everyone else can understand that. football has always been a huge part of my life. from playing in hs, playing in college, and hell, my hs team even though clear down in se kansas used to play the tomohawk chop song by our band even though we were the vikings….because everyone knew what a huge chiefs fan i was.
Anyway…thank you for mentioning that, joel. From now on, i am posting only objuective, or positive things and keeping the seriously negative to myself or with my fam or friends. being negative never helped anything and i should know considering in my profession i work with ppl in need of positive reinforcement. Im definitely optomistic about the future!!!!

Just like novocaine. give it time; always works..

by be cee on Dec 6, 2009 7:54 PM CST up reply actions  

We will probably lose to Buffalo, and Cleveland,

then beat the Bengals.

Good move by the Chiefs org, glad to see LJ gone.

by Eric Allen on Dec 6, 2009 6:31 PM CST reply actions  

More like

no FA in 2010 will sign if we play like this

Predictions as of 06.24.2009.

Larry Johnson will be a top 3 fantasy pick once again in 2010 (after a monster season in 2009.)
Dwayne Bowe will be a 2009 Pro Bowl selection.
Brandon Flowers will have at least 6 INTs in 2009 season.
Todd Haley will have a sideline shouting match caught on TV yelling at one of his asst. coaches.

by 58 was my friend on Dec 7, 2009 12:55 AM CST up reply actions  

Our defense did not seem to

want to hit, it seemed like they were just running next to the guys.

Good move by the Chiefs org, glad to see LJ gone.

by Eric Allen on Dec 6, 2009 6:34 PM CST reply actions  

Reminded me of a Greg Robinson defense today.

Waid and react after the play is 5 yards down the field.

I remember Dawson to Taylor, Kenney to Carson, and Blackledge catching the snap in his facemask. Seen it all...

by BinSC on Dec 6, 2009 6:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Very true.

Good move by the Chiefs org, glad to see LJ gone.

by Eric Allen on Dec 6, 2009 6:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes Clancy must go!

Good move by the Chiefs org, glad to see LJ gone.

by Eric Allen on Dec 6, 2009 6:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Clancy?

Ummmm..i think the 24 pts 3rd quarter debacle was all compliments of Chiefs offensive unit. 2 INTs and 1 fumble. What has that go to do with the defense. FYI. Defense picked off Orton, Tamba Hali sacked Orton and caused 2 fumbles. And what did the offense do with that??? Yeah…what they’ve been doing lately – 3 and OUT!

Predictions as of 06.24.2009.

Larry Johnson will be a top 3 fantasy pick once again in 2010 (after a monster season in 2009.)
Dwayne Bowe will be a 2009 Pro Bowl selection.
Brandon Flowers will have at least 6 INTs in 2009 season.
Todd Haley will have a sideline shouting match caught on TV yelling at one of his asst. coaches.

by 58 was my friend on Dec 7, 2009 12:58 AM CST up reply actions  

Yes Tamba had a good game, he has a motor

he has the never quit , never give up attitude. Yes our defense got a gift wrapped tipped ball, did Clancy do that? If Clancy is that good, why did AZ let him go? Speaking of AZ, did you see what their defense did to Favre, and company? Yes our offense put our defense in some bad situations, the donkeys are not some offensive juggernaut, why did they not stop them? His conservative playcalling at the end of the Oakland game cost us a win at home. He got conservative with the caboys, yep cost us another win. He gets to soft in crucial times, and that will kill a win everytime.

Good move by the Chiefs org, glad to see LJ gone.

by Eric Allen on Dec 7, 2009 6:59 PM CST up reply actions  

The jury is still out for me on Cassel

but he should NEVER have been given that $60 million dollar contract regardless

I don't want no Yo-Yos

by CaptainPoopDeck on Dec 6, 2009 6:42 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

Contract is not remarkable...

It is average.

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by woodman212 on Dec 6, 2009 6:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Amen to that

Predictions as of 06.24.2009.

Larry Johnson will be a top 3 fantasy pick once again in 2010 (after a monster season in 2009.)
Dwayne Bowe will be a 2009 Pro Bowl selection.
Brandon Flowers will have at least 6 INTs in 2009 season.
Todd Haley will have a sideline shouting match caught on TV yelling at one of his asst. coaches.

by 58 was my friend on Dec 7, 2009 12:59 AM CST up reply actions  

But it's for 6 years!!!!

I would just as soon shoot myself as opposed to watching 5 more years of this shit!

by Chiefsfan1970 on Dec 6, 2009 7:55 PM CST reply actions  

shoot?

I threw up more today than when i down the entire bottle of tequila.

Predictions as of 06.24.2009.

Larry Johnson will be a top 3 fantasy pick once again in 2010 (after a monster season in 2009.)
Dwayne Bowe will be a 2009 Pro Bowl selection.
Brandon Flowers will have at least 6 INTs in 2009 season.
Todd Haley will have a sideline shouting match caught on TV yelling at one of his asst. coaches.

by 58 was my friend on Dec 7, 2009 12:59 AM CST up reply actions  

As Painful as the last two weeks have been

Let’s be realistic about the progress we’ve made. Yes, it would have been nice to not get our asses whooped quite so bad, but we still went 2-2 in this quarter of the season. 0-4 the first, 1-3 the second, 2-2 the third. I doubt we’ll go 3-1 in this last quarter, but if you can’t see this as improvement then you just aren’t looking. We had more sacks today than Denver did, and they have the league sack leader. The last two games we’ve made ridiculous turnovers and been blown out. Hate to tell you but almost any team would have been. And yes, I think we still have a long way to go, but there are some glimmers of hope.

Chiefs go 9-7. LJ makes 1400 yards. DBowe makes 1200 yards. Defense #18.
10/28--The Koolaid buzz is beginning to wear off. Maybe drop this back to my original thoughts on the year. Chiefs go 6-10 (and that my be optimistic!). LJ gets a restraining order to stay 1400 yards away from the Chiefs. I'll let the rest stand for now. 11/18 Oh My! Dbowe gets a restraining order to stay 1200 yards away from the Chiefs. Argh! Can we go 5-11? Can the defense make #20?

by Zodeman on Dec 6, 2009 10:15 PM CST reply actions  

And what progress HAVE we made?

I sure don’t see any. I can honestly say despite the extra win we are a much worse team this year than last.

What are the glimmers of hope you’re seeing?

Is it that our leading sacker has a whopping 6.5 sacks? Or that our defense is giving up nearly 400 yds a game? We haven’t even played Drew Brees this year! We played freaking Jamarcus Russel twice and we have still given up nearly 400 yds a game!

Where is this hope you see?

by ChiefDJ on Dec 6, 2009 10:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Your right

The sky is falling and the end of the world is imminent.

Chiefs go 9-7. LJ makes 1400 yards. DBowe makes 1200 yards. Defense #18.
10/28--The Koolaid buzz is beginning to wear off. Maybe drop this back to my original thoughts on the year. Chiefs go 6-10 (and that my be optimistic!). LJ gets a restraining order to stay 1400 yards away from the Chiefs. I'll let the rest stand for now. 11/18 Oh My! Dbowe gets a restraining order to stay 1200 yards away from the Chiefs. Argh! Can we go 5-11? Can the defense make #20?

by Zodeman on Dec 6, 2009 10:57 PM CST up reply actions  

I hope these players/coaches are in the same place we are...pissed!

I for one am disgusted and this to me is the low point for the season thus far. I hope some serious introspection takes place by these coaches/players and that they come back with some intensity and concentration. Ray Lewis said in an interview a few weeks ago that he was watching the early games and teams just looked flat. That is the Chiefs, where is the intensity and pride.

by casselreadychiefs on Dec 7, 2009 12:14 AM CST reply actions  

I am very confident in his

2.7 2.9 yards per pass

Predictions for 2009:

The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ

Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.

The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays

Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for

Chiefs 3-13

by bonesjackson on Dec 7, 2009 5:23 AM CST reply actions  

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