Chiefs Dropped by Denver; Lose 44-13
by Chris Thorman on Dec 6, 2009 3:12 PM CST
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The Kansas City Chiefs have lost ten straight games in December, almost completely draining the Arrowhead Advantage late in the season. The Broncos ran all over the Chiefs today, finishing the day with over 200 yards on the ground.
This was a tough game to watch on pretty much every front. We'll have much more for you later but for now, here are some thoughts:
The Good
- The Chiefs started off hot on third downs, converting four of their first five.
- A punt by Dustin Colquitt late in the third quarter pinned the Broncos within the five-yard line.
- Tamba Hali had back to back sacks in the first half and the second one was a strip which Glenn Dorsey recovered. Hali also hit Kyle Orton near the goal line late in the third quarter and Dorsey recovered the fumble again.
- Jamaal Charles had a rushing TD again today, both his and the team's third of the season.
- Brodie Croyle has a much better arm than Matt Cassel. Don't know if that's good or bad actually.
The Bad
- The Chiefs couldn't stop the run in the first half. The Broncos had 131 yards rushing in the first two periods.
- The Brodie Croyle appearance at the end of the third quarter. Not Croyle's play but the fact that Todd Haley made a decision to replace our starting QB with one full quarter to go was a terrible sign of how bad it was out there.
- Quinten Lawrence? Bobby Wade? Neither one is very good or very fast.
The Ugly
- Jovan Belcher, how do you not block that punt in the third quarter? It was actually harder to do what you did - miss the ball entirely - than to actually block the punt.
- Jamaal Charles fumbled in the third quarter and the Broncos took it to the house for six.
- Seven drops by the Chiefs in the first half. Seven. Bobby Wade had five for the entire game I believe.
- Matt Cassel was 10/29 passing for 84 yards. He had two INTs and a 14.3 QB rating.
- The Chiefs allowed 20 points in the third quarter. The game was over before the fourth quarter started.
Chime in with your thoughts.
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There was no good in this game. It was all ugly.
Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...
The game didn't even seem that close.
BUT BRODIE ORCHESTRATED A TD DRIVE!!!
The Original member of the Ndamukong Suh bandwagon
I'm not a "Brodie guy"
But it is obvious that he has a much stronger arm than Cassel.
In no way does this endorse him as a better QB, just an observation.
Johnnie Morton: The Man. The Myth. The Legend.
by craig in calgary on Dec 6, 2009 3:14 PM CST up reply actions
I'll say this much
I think Cassel played his way out of a start next week with his last two performances.
For justice we must go to Don Pioli
That's true
Jeff George had a much stronger arm than Montana, but that didn’t mean anything.
-"A man may be a fool and not know it, but not if he is married." - H.L. Mencken
Who cares?
He should get a chance to play. Cassel has been TERRIBLE and you never know. Maybe he will be better after sitting on the bench for a while.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Dec 6, 2009 3:17 PM CST up reply actions
He didn't look any better than Cassel on a whole...
Small sample size with back up receivers, but man… Poor effort all the way around.
The Original member of the Ndamukong Suh bandwagon
by averagegatsby on Dec 6, 2009 3:17 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not a Brodie guy either
but Matt C should sit for a bit. Croyle CANNOT be much worse. Let’s see what we have in our O-line and WRs with a different look behond center. Seriously, could Croyle have lost worse than Matty C today?
Who cares...
Cassel is more than likely going to be the guy next year, might as well give him more snaps to learn the system and get familiar with his receivers.
The Original member of the Ndamukong Suh bandwagon
by averagegatsby on Dec 6, 2009 3:21 PM CST up reply actions
Really?
Cassel has the money… he is going to play next year… And since he is he might as well get the reps.
How can you logically even make a statement to say that he wont start next year?
The Original member of the Ndamukong Suh bandwagon
by averagegatsby on Dec 6, 2009 3:34 PM CST up reply actions
Oh I read it...
but why post something like that when you and I both know he will be.
The Original member of the Ndamukong Suh bandwagon
by averagegatsby on Dec 6, 2009 3:43 PM CST up reply actions
We can't post
opinions anymore?! We just have to post what will and won’t happen? Isn’t the point of these forums to discuss what we think as fans? Dude, we can disagree, it’s all good.
I didn't say you couldn't...
just asked what the point was.
The Original member of the Ndamukong Suh bandwagon
by averagegatsby on Dec 6, 2009 3:46 PM CST up reply actions
The point is discussion
You state your point, I state mine ,and we discuss. These forums really are pointless though if you think about it. We can’t change a thing, we just yap about what we think the team should do better/differently.
Learn the system maybe...get familiar with the receivers - How do you know?
System- All have been talking about us bringing in a O-coordinator next year. Doesn’t that mean that the system is going to be different? May be similar but there is alway change with a new OC.
WR – I think we have shown that we will change WRs at the drop of a hat. It’s not like we have a core group of future WRs here that we are going to build around. So, I don’t see that being something that be accomplished this year.
Listen man this is stupid. The Raiders winning made it hella worse. Add that to the ugly.
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
What to do about Matt Cassel????
Really…he sucks…bad.
Keep playing him
And get a QB coach.
-"A man may be a fool and not know it, but not if he is married." - H.L. Mencken
Take away the dropped passes and his numbers weren't that bad
We had at least 10 dropped passes that hit the receivers hands. The INTs were both communication errors — the WR and QB weren’t on the same page.
As usual, he was under constant pressure and had to force some throws.
Dropped passes plagued both Cassel and Croyle.
The Goodman Int
Was NOT a communication error. Long was open, all Cassel had to do was put some air under the ball. Instead he threw a laser. Cassel needs to learn how to put some touch on the ball.
agreed
not a good day, but clearly not ALL on Cassel
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers
Not all
but this game confirmed what I’ve believed all along. Cassel hasn’t started since high school for a reason. He’s a great leader/locker room guy, but he’s a second string QB. He had a lot of drops because he doesn’t throw an easily catchable ball. All he does is throw lasers, he doesn’t put enough air under deep passes, and he has a tendency to throw behind receivers on short/intermediate routes.
Not many QBs are gonna force their way ahead of heisman winners and Super Bowl MVP's
The Original member of the Ndamukong Suh bandwagon
by averagegatsby on Dec 6, 2009 3:25 PM CST up reply actions
Excuses
Yes, he played behind good qb’s, but he was still behind them for a reason. Me, I’d rather have the Heisman winners and MVP’s.
well dur...
But he was behind 2 of the greatest QB’s in the history of USC… Not many guys would force themselves ahead of them. And then really no QB’s would even get the chance to play behind Brady… And when he did he made the most of it. Really poor argument.
The Original member of the Ndamukong Suh bandwagon
by averagegatsby on Dec 6, 2009 3:29 PM CST up reply actions
How did he make the most of it?!!
His stats were very mediocre last year!! He turns the ball over and gets sacked a ton. His career completion percentage sucks too!
They won 11 games...
therefor he didn’t do things to lose games.
The Original member of the Ndamukong Suh bandwagon
by averagegatsby on Dec 6, 2009 3:34 PM CST up reply actions
Um what?
Clearly he is not Tom Brady. No one said he is.
The Original member of the Ndamukong Suh bandwagon
by averagegatsby on Dec 6, 2009 3:41 PM CST up reply actions
I didn't either
All I am saying is that Matt C hasn’t shown me anything that says he is better than a good backup/second tier starter.
Uh, yeah...
TB has all ready thrown more TDs this year than Matt C did all of last year, almost twice as many yards as MC this year, and his QB rating is over 20 points better. Come on man!
PistolP
Most of the WR routes in this offenseare “option” routes where the WR reads the defense and his route can go one of two or three ways. That is what happened on the Lance Long route. Cassel expected him to break off a hitch and Long went for the long route.
Drops WERE the problem. The drops were routine catches. You get a hand on the football you can catch it. No excuse for that many dropped passes.
Nick
I don’t disagree with the option routes, but I do disagree with the routine catches. No doubt, some were easier than others, but several passes including the deep ball to Wade were poorly thrown. Matt C doesnt put any kind of touch on the ball. Had he put just a little bit of air under the deep ball, Wade would have made the catch. Matt throw’s lasers all the time. He also likes to throw behind guys like the JC touchdown miss. Had he led JC or even thrown it to his body, it would have been a TD. Yes, great receivers make up for bad passes. We don’t have great receivers. Matt HAS to throw a better ball than he does. We can disagree, it’s all good. I don’t buy the, “if you can get one hand on the ball, it should be a catch.” If you can get two on the ball if should be a catch.
I guess we will agree to disagree
If you are a receiver at the NFL level, you should make those catches, IMO. And I think that is fair.
Ridiculous
Every QB has dropped passes. It wasn’t like he was hitting guys right in the numbers. The passes weren’t perfect by any means.
drops
also…. d bowe will be back so all the recievers will hopefully be improved some…
by kcstevesportsfan on Dec 6, 2009 3:24 PM CST up reply actions
Lawrence IS fast
you can argue that he’s not good, though
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers
He is not good
At least not yet. I haven’t been a Quinten Lawrence fan since the beginning. His promotion still drives me hazy.
Why do we inactivate Mark Bradley? At least he can catch the ball. Bobby Wade needs to start looking for a new job.
He doesn't come off as very fast to me on the field
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by Chris Thorman on Dec 6, 2009 3:21 PM CST up reply actions
first guy down the field on kicks
runs fast on KRs… just not very far :)
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers
debateable...
Bradly has some drops now and then, too.
Wade is usually more reliable… not sure what happened there
Lawrence was pretty good on kick coverage, gets down there FAST. he’s still pretty raw
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers
Bradley hasn't caught much of anything this year, from what I recall.
He’s not gonna make it to 2010 either.
"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"
-Marty Schottenheimer
I have never seen Bradley drop 5 passes in one game though
Like Bobby Wade just did today.
Lonesome Polcat
I’d never heard of such a thing……………Mitch was almost speechless!
I don't think it was the Lonesome Polcat
I will have to look at the film though. It all happened so fast.
WOWOWOWOWW
Drew Brees is good at football!
Johnnie Morton: The Man. The Myth. The Legend.
by craig in calgary on Dec 6, 2009 3:16 PM CST reply actions
Good lord, the man is unreal
-"A man may be a fool and not know it, but not if he is married." - H.L. Mencken
He could have thrown it to Colston and helped my FF team, the bastard
-"A man may be a fool and not know it, but not if he is married." - H.L. Mencken
Time left
I can’t believe Wash missed a 33 yrd fg to make it a 2 score game
Johnnie Morton: The Man. The Myth. The Legend.
by craig in calgary on Dec 6, 2009 3:18 PM CST up reply actions
Another Positive- Seriously!
The O-line actually did a pretty good job today. The QBs had adequate time, and J Chuck was finiding some holes. I say again, like I’ve said all week, Matt C is a good back-up, but a second tier starter.
True
Cassel had lots of time.
He (or the WRs) just did nothing with that time
Johnnie Morton: The Man. The Myth. The Legend.
by craig in calgary on Dec 6, 2009 3:17 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah - I didn't think that was possible earlier this season
Gotta give the Pioli and the staff props for that
-"A man may be a fool and not know it, but not if he is married." - H.L. Mencken
Absolutely disgusted.
Add, “First time we lost to all our home games to division rivals since 1978”
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
Browns up by 7 on Dolts already
Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...
yeah its amazing
Would ya like a free NANAA!
by Jazzy Megalodon on Dec 6, 2009 3:18 PM CST up reply actions
well... my good/bad/ugly
Good: Hali was great, Charles still good. OL a little better.
Bad: Cassel had a bad day (though it is NOT all his fault)
Ugly: WR drops… that’s terrible. Defense got gashed 10yds at a time all day. Turnovers put the nail in the coffin again
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers
People who are complaining about Cassel's stats
Obviously didn’t watch the game. I counted at least 12 dropped passes and then I stopped counting.
Brees is awesome
Why didnt we sign that guy?
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
Because Brodie was our QBOTF
-"A man may be a fool and not know it, but not if he is married." - H.L. Mencken
I just threw up in my mouth a little
-"A man may be a fool and not know it, but not if he is married." - H.L. Mencken
+1
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers
Ugh, Sudden...
If Brodie’s the answer, we’re not asking the right question. Were you using the sarcasm font?
If not, I will tactfully agree to disagree with you.
"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"
-Marty Schottenheimer
Not saying Brodie is the answer
But Cassel [played himself out of a start the last two weeks.
For justice we must go to Don Pioli
Problem with Brodie
Is that even if he comes in and sets the world on fire, he has already proven he can’t stay healthy.
No win situation.
Because he's a pain
-"A man may be a fool and not know it, but not if he is married." - H.L. Mencken
Quinn 6 for 6 on the drive
-"A man may be a fool and not know it, but not if he is married." - H.L. Mencken
I read alot of people bashing Haley for a couple weeks for
making Wade inactive for a couple games. Now Wade has a terrible game and people are bashing Haley for having the guy on the team?
No
I’m bashing him for the most rediculous fake punt in the history of football when the game was in hand
Johnnie Morton: The Man. The Myth. The Legend.
by craig in calgary on Dec 6, 2009 3:21 PM CST up reply actions
It was a genius play
Poor throw by Brodie. Pump fake would have made him bit and then it was TD. I do question the decision making, but anyone who knows football loves the anatomy of the play.
When you are getting killed in all phases of the game
I don’t have a problem with the Coach trying a trick play or a gamble to get something going. If they would have punted there…it would have made no difference in the outcome of the game.
Genious?
MAYBE from midfield. At the 30 yardline down by one score?
Give me a break
Johnnie Morton: The Man. The Myth. The Legend.
by craig in calgary on Dec 6, 2009 3:24 PM CST up reply actions
Even though we were down by 1 score.
You could tell that we were doing nothing to stop the Denver offense. I would have been more pissed if i looked back at this game and we didn’t trying anything.
I'm with you
I’m glad we have HC who takes some chances.
-"A man may be a fool and not know it, but not if he is married." - H.L. Mencken
It was an ASININE CALL
Haley continues to make pathetic decisions.
We were only down by 8 at that point in the game. I don’t care how pretty the play was drawn up. To call a fake punt from your own 40 (?) at the beginning of the 3rd quarter is what led to us getting blown out.
Haley is reckless and inconsistent on when he decides to gamble. Doesn’t go for it on 4th and 1 at the end of the half but goes for the fake punt at the beginning of the 3rd quarter on his own side of the field.
Haley needs to grow up on his play calling.
It is easy to take your eyes off the prize in a loss like this
The players that can look past this loss and find things to build on are the players that will lead us going forward.
Give me a break
You might buy all of Haley’s rah rah B.S. I don’t.
He makes bad, unnecessarily risky plays that this team has no ability to recover from.
He wants to pull that play, he should wait until they are in no mans land on the other teams 45 yard line or something. Not when they put the other team in field goal position immediately because of a low percentage pass (you’re expecting a cold QB off the bench to come in and throw a 20 yard pass to your long snapper? come on).
Its hard for the players to find things to build on when their coach continues to sabotage them.
Andy Reid
onsided the opening kickoff a week or two ago… That probably lacked judgement too.
I dont see what the big deal is, its not like that cost us a playoff spot.
The Original member of the Ndamukong Suh bandwagon
by averagegatsby on Dec 6, 2009 4:09 PM CST up reply actions
its not like that cost us a playoff spot.
So Haley gets to do dumb shit just because we aren’t a playoff team?
Take some calculated risks, but don’t be reckless.
That was reckless. Even if it would have worked, I would have been pissed (Maybe a little less pissed, but I digress)
Johnnie Morton: The Man. The Myth. The Legend.
by craig in calgary on Dec 6, 2009 4:14 PM CST up reply actions
I have no problem with him doing this stuff this year...
Hopefully he learns from it. I dont mind being aggressive, really the only problem I had with the call was being so deep in our territory.
To be honest, I really never have a problem with aggressiveness. At that point in the game we had to do something drastic to win the game, we tried it didn’t work.
The Original member of the Ndamukong Suh bandwagon
by averagegatsby on Dec 6, 2009 5:17 PM CST up reply actions
Shameful
The win against the Steelers is looking more and more like a fluke. They just lost to the Raiders.
Haley continues to mismanage the game (fake punt from our own 40 at the beginning of the 3rd quarter? REALLY?)
The offense continues to be horrible. The defense can’t stop anything. Cassels play is seriously regressing. Whats going on around here?
Well can you explain it? 2 weeks later, we look like we fluked our way to victory.
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
Maybe it wasn't a fluke at all...
Maybe Pittsburgh just isn’t very good.
The Original member of the Ndamukong Suh bandwagon
by averagegatsby on Dec 6, 2009 3:27 PM CST up reply actions
Which was my point
Everyone thought that was the “turn the corner” game. What we are finding out is that they simply aren’t that good a team right now.
“The offense continues to be horrible. The defense can’t stop anything. Cassels play is seriously regressing. Whats going on around here?”
…We’re a bad team?
"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"
-Marty Schottenheimer
Amen
And we aren’t getting any better. That is the worrisome thing.
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Dec 6, 2009 8:40 PM CST up reply actions
The Saints are fun to watch
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
Watching saints?
Johnnie Morton: The Man. The Myth. The Legend.
by craig in calgary on Dec 6, 2009 3:22 PM CST reply actions
Other than the Chiefs i've been rooting for NO all year
gotta watch something good
Would ya like a free NANAA!
Its complete horseshit...
that CBS is showing these asshats instead of the Saints game.
The Original member of the Ndamukong Suh bandwagon
There was so much wrong with this game
Anything good is still bad.
Cassel had time to make some throws, but there was no one to throw too. When he could throw to someone the inevitably dropped the damnm ball. I was fading in and out in the third quarter between turnovers.
All in all this was just miserable. Trying to not have a knee jerk reaction, but this was very
ugly. Poor game from top to bottom. At this point, I don’t think I want too many of these current players wearing red and gold next season.
If you only knew...
by IISaiNtII on Dec 6, 2009 3:25 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Kool-Aid
Cassel had time – and protection. If we had Bowe we would have had two more touchdowns. If we hadn’t done the fake punt it would have been only 41-13.
"IF we"... but we did, can't take 'em back. Would a, could a, should a..........
Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...
There are some talented players on this team
We are just in desperate need of an OC and DC. That being said we do need and upgrade in talent as well.
New influx of talent would help.
Maybe a less risk-reward based defensive scheme, that adapts to game situations…additional talent at wideout…continued growth/add’l talent on the O-line…anyone who can tackle consistently at ILB…speed/tackling skill at safety…
"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"
-Marty Schottenheimer
Anyone see the NE - MIA game?
CBS should have given us more game breaks. Plenty of time for that. NE was all over them in the last highlights I saw
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
Miami is a weird team this year. Have to see how they beat NE.
-"A man may be a fool and not know it, but not if he is married." - H.L. Mencken
Help me please. Im asking for help.
How would you defend being a Chief fan this week after 2 consecutive blowouts with us losing by like 30.
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
Because they won the Superbowl the first season I started watching them
I can’t see myself ever stopping. And I’ve been through worse seasons and teams. We went 15 years without making the playoffs in the 70s and 80s. And I stayed a fan. If I stuck with them then, I sure as hell am not going to give up on them now.
-"A man may be a fool and not know it, but not if he is married." - H.L. Mencken
I don't have to defend being a Chiefs fan. I'm fan reguardless, no matter what happens.
Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...
by oldchiefsfan on Dec 6, 2009 3:33 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
58 yard FG try
Wow
Johnnie Morton: The Man. The Myth. The Legend.
by craig in calgary on Dec 6, 2009 3:27 PM CST reply actions
Washington too
They had Smoot back to return the FG try
-"A man may be a fool and not know it, but not if he is married." - H.L. Mencken
What is he saying?
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
not saying anything outa the norm. did say Cassel will start next week. Defended the fake punt
Would ya like a free NANAA!
by Jazzy Megalodon on Dec 6, 2009 3:30 PM CST up reply actions
Where are hearing him? FOX radio is just doing highlights of other games
If they missed the damn presser again I’m going to send them a flamer.
-"A man may be a fool and not know it, but not if he is married." - H.L. Mencken
This is some attempt
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
Of course he will
Give us some news
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
I would hope so.
You know, a lot of QBs have had bad games. You don’t bail on him for this.
-"A man may be a fool and not know it, but not if he is married." - H.L. Mencken
especially since his Receivers let him down.
The Original member of the Ndamukong Suh bandwagon
by averagegatsby on Dec 6, 2009 3:30 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe we should start calling our Receivers...
Deceivers?
by 5280ChiefsFan on Dec 6, 2009 3:37 PM CST up reply actions
ZING!
The Original member of the Ndamukong Suh bandwagon
by averagegatsby on Dec 6, 2009 3:38 PM CST up reply actions
Look, we're rebuilding
I’ve not seen anything that would make me turn against him. Changing QBs is more likely to set us back. You gotta give QBs time to develop and work in their system. I still think Cassel is going to win a lot of games for us. Just my opinion.
-"A man may be a fool and not know it, but not if he is married." - H.L. Mencken
If there was a franchise type QB sitting out there
I would say give it consideration. But, if the solution for those that don’t wan’t Cassel is to put Brodie in and let him be the future of the team, I don’t think that’s the answer for the future. I do believe that Pioli is the type that will always look for a franchise QB. If he believes that Cassel isn’t the man to lead the team, I think he will replace him regardless of the contract that was given. But, he’s not going to do it after 1 year.
Dolts down 7-3 to Brownies. They look like they can beat us now also.
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
OT in Washington
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
Wash won the toss
Johnnie Morton: The Man. The Myth. The Legend.
by craig in calgary on Dec 6, 2009 3:31 PM CST up reply actions
Yes, but our players on the O forgot that.
I refuse to think the D didnt do what it was supposed to.
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
Yeah, they were supposed to let them score 44 points...
If you only knew...
by IISaiNtII on Dec 6, 2009 3:37 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
fact of the matter is...
we rank near or at the bottom of the league in all offensive and defensive categories. The Chiefs are a terrible team, they may beat Cleveland or Buffalo, and at best they will go 5-11.
by 5280ChiefsFan on Dec 6, 2009 3:38 PM CST up reply actions
Our defense gives up a trillion yards rushing and you let them off the hook?
NJChieffan, gotta disagree with you there. Our offense gets an F…maybe even a G or a G- for the day…but forcing a few big plays does not mean that they “did what they were supposed to.”
That requires playing with discipline and sound technique every down instead of just throwing the kitchen sink out there.
"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"
-Marty Schottenheimer
Well when I look at what Tamba could do...
and all the picks and sacks we had…along with barely any yards gained…what the hell can the D do?
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
Golfers usually don't make good football coaches...
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
by Matt_Grbac on Dec 6, 2009 3:31 PM CST via mobile reply actions
How can you legitimately make that statement...
pretty small sample size if you ask me. not only that but Haley hasn’t been doing it long enough for you to make a fair statement on the guy.
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by averagegatsby on Dec 6, 2009 3:33 PM CST up reply actions
Golfers usually don't make good football coaches...
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
by Matt_Grbac on Dec 6, 2009 3:32 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Golfers usually don't make good football coaches...
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
by Matt_Grbac on Dec 6, 2009 3:32 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Golfers usually don't make good football coaches...
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
by Matt_Grbac on Dec 6, 2009 3:32 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Sorry ... Damn phone lol
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
by Matt_Grbac on Dec 6, 2009 3:33 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Golfers usually don't make football coaches...
Johnnie Morton: The Man. The Myth. The Legend.
by craig in calgary on Dec 6, 2009 3:33 PM CST reply actions
Man, this is just hard to stomach.
Did we beat the Steelers 2 weeks ago?
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
Something tells me the Stealers aren't that good
OAKLAND just beat them!
pathetic
and i’m embarrassed. nothing much else to say other than no matter how bad a team is…they should have the presence of mind and pride to come out at home in their own house and make it respectable. i saw no intensity from minute one and im ashamed. pure and simple….
Just like novocaine. give it time; always works..
Yep
Biggest thing I noticed is how pathetically slow our defense is. We have a whole lot of youth on D, and they can’t catch anyone or tackle. We have a fundamentally inept football team.
If you only knew...
by IISaiNtII on Dec 6, 2009 3:40 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
being slow
isn’t inept, it’s called untalented.
Still means they’re sucking and will continue to suck, particularly with the LBs we have.
The Kansas City Chief's 2009 record will be 5-11.
I'll give him the benefit of the doubt since it was via phone
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by averagegatsby on Dec 6, 2009 3:36 PM CST up reply actions
Plus we play Den in their house in 3 weeks?
SD deja vu????
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
We're paying Cassel $5M this year
and benching him with the ball on the Denver 5 so that we can play our craptacular backup while down 28.
Money well spent!
Cassel sucked for most of the third quarter, but Croyle was so friggin bad. I loved his dead duck passes and that pass he threw while falling on his ass.
At least Mike Vrabel is mad at the people who deserve to be flipped off… wait, he flipped off the other guys, right? nevermind then
time to get some blackouts for the Bills and Browns games.
Ralph Wiggum would be a better GM than Dayton Moore
The Browns are playing better against SD than we are. We may lose to them.
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
Hell they would probably make the playoffs...yea i said it.
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
So did Adam Schefter
http://twitter.com/Adam_Schefter/status/6411155429
"I'm a Michigan Wolverine, which means I'm the only one who watches 'Rudy' hoping he pulls a hamstring or pops a quad." - Rich Eisen
Hard to say
They’ve got a lot of talent on that team. What’s sad is that I think Jamarcus the Hutt doesn’t lack the talent, just the drive.
-"A man may be a fool and not know it, but not if he is married." - H.L. Mencken
I also loved that fake punt
I did not know that you might have problems with a deflection when you had like 3 guys in front of the QB on a fake punt. The freaking Center was an eligible receiver. What is Todd Haley smoking?
Ralph Wiggum would be a better GM than Dayton Moore
maybe Haley really liked that play from Fresno State/Illinois
Ralph Wiggum would be a better GM than Dayton Moore
Dolts score - 10 -7
-"A man may be a fool and not know it, but not if he is married." - H.L. Mencken
Excellent coaching for the Saints
Calling that TO was huge
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
Haley would have just stood there...
looking confused and angry.
by 5280ChiefsFan on Dec 6, 2009 3:43 PM CST up reply actions
I can't believe they are going to win this game
Johnnie Morton: The Man. The Myth. The Legend.
by craig in calgary on Dec 6, 2009 3:44 PM CST up reply actions
The Saints and Colts are gettin lucky against bad teams.
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
I can't believe the Skins were tied with them at the end of regulation
-"A man may be a fool and not know it, but not if he is married." - H.L. Mencken
how many empty seats for a blackout?
69K paid wasn’t enough for a blackout. How the hell the Bills or Browns games will be televised is beyond me.
Ralph Wiggum would be a better GM than Dayton Moore
????
I saw more empty seats than filled seats.
Johnnie Morton: The Man. The Myth. The Legend.
by craig in calgary on Dec 6, 2009 3:47 PM CST up reply actions
That Arrowhead magic...
is a distant memory. The fans realize it too. I predict the sellout streak will come to an end this season and a blackout will happen.
by 5280ChiefsFan on Dec 6, 2009 3:48 PM CST up reply actions
All I know
These supposed “sellouts” are BS
Johnnie Morton: The Man. The Myth. The Legend.
by craig in calgary on Dec 6, 2009 3:49 PM CST up reply actions
the extra fans you don't see
are just hanging out in the parking lot, yaknow. And they’re dressed like chairs
Ralph Wiggum would be a better GM than Dayton Moore
Some season ticket holders aren't attending but are paying for their seats
In hopes for better seasons…………
no
the combination of people who paid for tickets and didn’t show up and the rubes who think that continually seeing bad football makes them a good fan is enough to avoid blackouts
The Chiefs are the Cubs of the NFL
Ralph Wiggum would be a better GM than Dayton Moore
Actually,
that woudl be CLE. The Brownies haven’t been good since, well in the history of the NEW Browns.
The Kansas City Chief's 2009 record will be 5-11.
no
the Cubs threaten to be good occasionally, like the Chiefs have. But I think the Chiefs have won 3 playoff games since Super Bowl 4, right?
Ralph Wiggum would be a better GM than Dayton Moore
just checked
3-11 in the playoffs since Super Bowl 4, no playoff victories since January 1994
Ralph Wiggum would be a better GM than Dayton Moore
Ah,
if that’s your criteria, then the Chargers are the AFC West team you want. Win a bunch of games and never a Championship.
The Kansas City Chief's 2009 record will be 5-11.
the Chargers have probably had a blackout in the last 19 years
the Chiefs haven’t
Ralph Wiggum would be a better GM than Dayton Moore
Cubs have won their division twice in the last 3 seasons
so… the Chiefs are NOT the Cubs of the NFL.
"You play to win the game." Herm Edwards
the Chiefs won their division a few times in the 90s
not that it did them any good in the playoffs (just like how the Cubs didn’t win a playoff series from 1908 to 2003)
Ralph Wiggum would be a better GM than Dayton Moore
Chiefs need playmakers and a run defense
Seriously the Broncos ripped off runs at a clip of 6+ every friggin time. Our run defense was and still is pathetic. You can’t win with that type of defense. Our linebackers looked horrendous and our D-linemen were pushed off the ball 3-4 yds on most snaps. We need to draft up the gut on offense and defense this year. NT, MLB, S and C, RG, RB. We need to build a core to this team. It’s our teams biggest weakness.
Cassel had no one to throw to and Champ covered Chambers all over the field. Wade, Long, Pope, Cottam these guys are scrubs and are Cassel’s only outlets and none of these guys could catch worth a shit.
Cassel certainly played poorly but of the 9 passes dropped today, 5 or 6 of them should have been caught for sure. Wade had his worst game as a Chief. He made it so I don’t want him on the roster next year. He might be the slowest and worst punt returner i’ve seen also.
Java Williams is a north and south runner I’m not sure why they tried to run him stretch the to times he touched the ball.
This team needs talent in the off-season. At this point a higher draft position the better. I’d like players to continue to develop and for the team to win another game or 2 on the year but this team needs minimum 8 starters and a total of minimum 17 new players on the team in 2010.
Chiefs may have fallen back to drafting in the top 5 with this pathetic outing.
by cameltoeuchdowns on Dec 6, 2009 3:45 PM CST reply actions
I hate picking in the top 10
Giving guaranteed contracts to rookies makes me ill. NFL needs to do something about that.
-"A man may be a fool and not know it, but not if he is married." - H.L. Mencken
I'm Ready for this season to be over
Really thought KC had a shot at this one. Team need to stop making stupid mistakes. Wade needs to catch that deep pass. They need to punch it in when they have a 1st & goal from the 2. Basically need to stop playing from behind EVERY game.
Predictions:
Kansas City will not win more than four games in 2009
Kansas City will have a new OC and DC in 2010
Kansas City will win at least seven games in 2010
Not me
We should be able to win the next two games. And we NEED to win them. And I’d rather sit through a losing game than have no game. I go through some serious withdrawal at the end of the season.
-"A man may be a fool and not know it, but not if he is married." - H.L. Mencken
I live in the CLE area and have watched a lot of their games
There are several reasons to think that we’re the better team. But not if we play like the last two weeks.
-"A man may be a fool and not know it, but not if he is married." - H.L. Mencken
true
and the last time I felt this way, we had a two game winning streak. Honestly, coming in to the season I would have been happy with 5 wins….it’s just very tough to see them getting dismantled like this. It’s not enjoyable. At. All.
Predictions:
Kansas City will not win more than four games in 2009
Kansas City will have a new OC and DC in 2010
Kansas City will win at least seven games in 2010
I'm just happy we're ahead of last year with the opportunity to do better
I’m really not sure that we weren’t the worst team in the league last year. I think if we played the Lions 10 times on a neutral field we’d have split them. Despite these blow out games, I still think we’re better than last year and there’s reason to believe we’ll continue to improve this season and next.
-"A man may be a fool and not know it, but not if he is married." - H.L. Mencken
I agree with all of that
And thanks for providing a positive slant on this ;)
It’s just so hard to watch.
Predictions:
Kansas City will not win more than four games in 2009
Kansas City will have a new OC and DC in 2010
Kansas City will win at least seven games in 2010
If Saints win...
Only 4 or 10 teams that have won the toss in overtime this year – have won the game.
No we stopped the Steelers
Dallas won the toss and the game but we stopped them but then we went out and then Dallas won. So we were responsible for one
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
Do you agree with Peter King about requiring that each team get one possesion?
-"A man may be a fool and not know it, but not if he is married." - H.L. Mencken
that's more manly than
giving the team that’s down in OT one more possession and requiring the game end on a failed TD drive.
Also better than College Football OT, which is a freaking joke
Ralph Wiggum would be a better GM than Dayton Moore
Dont know Peter's position
I personally prefer they play another 15 mins myself
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
At the very least.....
First 4 points wins the game
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
King advocates that each team get at least one possession in OT
Once the second team get’s the ball it Sudden Death. I don’t see a problem with the current system.
-"A man may be a fool and not know it, but not if he is married." - H.L. Mencken
I would like it better
If it was first 4 points. Makes it interesting
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
That age old argument...
I like it honestly. I think each team should get a chance like in college. But…changing a rule that has been in place for Lord knows how many decades now? I say leave it as is.
by 5280ChiefsFan on Dec 6, 2009 3:53 PM CST up reply actions
I dont like
That the FG can end it like that. Make them score 4, the Saints should have scored a TD there not play for the FG
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
I think it got put in during the early 80s
-"A man may be a fool and not know it, but not if he is married." - H.L. Mencken
Someone want to explain to me why Oak beat the Squeelers by 3 like we did?
AND the score is 27-24?
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
The Steelers
Aren’t who we thought they were.
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
because the Chiefs are improving
and the Steeler game wasn’t a fluke
Ralph Wiggum would be a better GM than Dayton Moore
really?
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
called sarcasm
guess I shouldn’t use my Todd Haley voice for sarcastic posts
Ralph Wiggum would be a better GM than Dayton Moore
Oakland isn't bad
and the Steelers aren’t very good (makes our win look great, no?)
At least we may be picking before Oakland.
Predictions:
Kansas City will not win more than four games in 2009
Kansas City will have a new OC and DC in 2010
Kansas City will win at least seven games in 2010
Oakland has loads of talent...
Jamarcus is just that bad. And a Steelers team without Pallumalo really isn’t a Steelers team. Helps that Roethelsberger got hurt too.
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by averagegatsby on Dec 6, 2009 4:02 PM CST up reply actions
Don't worry if your team picks before Oakland
Al Davis will just take a guy with a great 40 time that 31 other NFL teams recognize as being a mediocre player.
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by Rob4Braves on Dec 6, 2009 5:50 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Not that I really care
but LJ had two carries for 4 yards.
Predictions:
Kansas City will not win more than four games in 2009
Kansas City will have a new OC and DC in 2010
Kansas City will win at least seven games in 2010
It's going to be interesting to see how that situation goes
I’m glad we cut him. It’ll be interesting to see if Cincy will regret signing him. I don’t think he’ll be happy about only getting 2 carries for long.
-"A man may be a fool and not know it, but not if he is married." - H.L. Mencken
maybe they just need to draft Tim Tebow so that God stops cursing this team. Plus, they can rip off the Wildcat, until Week 3 when Tebow gets knocked out for the year
Ralph Wiggum would be a better GM than Dayton Moore
between our Kicker/Punter/Studebaker trio
We’ve got the God aspect covered….no Tebow please
Predictions:
Kansas City will not win more than four games in 2009
Kansas City will have a new OC and DC in 2010
Kansas City will win at least seven games in 2010
Tebow is the quadruple threat
QB/RB/WR/Punter
we NEED a guy who can do a fake punt when Croyle gets hurt next year
Ralph Wiggum would be a better GM than Dayton Moore
like I said
Guardian of the Gate to La La Land!
Gonsoulin, Taylor, Little, Wright, Gradishar, Atwater, Davis, and Sharpe...
Why are they not in the Hall...I just don't understand.
I dont remeber Atwater making any plays this game
The Original member of the Ndamukong Suh bandwagon
by averagegatsby on Dec 6, 2009 4:05 PM CST up reply actions
You saw Denvers 'Atwater type' spirit in this game
Guardian of the Gate to La La Land!
Gonsoulin, Taylor, Little, Wright, Gradishar, Atwater, Davis, and Sharpe...
Why are they not in the Hall...I just don't understand.
Meh..
I wasn’t that impressed. Pretty easy to beat a team that has like 50 dropped passes.
The Original member of the Ndamukong Suh bandwagon
by averagegatsby on Dec 6, 2009 4:08 PM CST up reply actions
But you know, he still picked up around 5 yards on the play and continued coming at them
just like we’re going to do. Enjoy this one – revenge is a dish best served cold.
-"A man may be a fool and not know it, but not if he is married." - H.L. Mencken
Chief, Unlike the faders, You guys are impossible to hate. Too much class...
Until next time
Guardian of the Gate to La La Land!
Gonsoulin, Taylor, Little, Wright, Gradishar, Atwater, Davis, and Sharpe...
Why are they not in the Hall...I just don't understand.
Hopefully we'll acquit ourselves better
See ya.
And I have to admit I do like that clip.
-"A man may be a fool and not know it, but not if he is married." - H.L. Mencken
See you guys in Denver!
You are truly fans with class.
Guardian of the Gate to La La Land!
Gonsoulin, Taylor, Little, Wright, Gradishar, Atwater, Davis, and Sharpe...
Why are they not in the Hall...I just don't understand.
Another Positive from the Game
Pass Protection wasn’t terrible.
Predictions:
Kansas City will not win more than four games in 2009
Kansas City will have a new OC and DC in 2010
Kansas City will win at least seven games in 2010
The Cleveland Browns
Are beating up on the Chargers….WHAT THE HELL??
NOOOOOOOOOO
Todd Haley is the one guy in KC sports more dreary and bland than Trey Hillman. Although Haley did succeed as a player in an organized sport.
Ralph Wiggum would be a better GM than Dayton Moore
How do you figure?
Quinn just fumbled in the red zone and SD has the ball. I think was a trap play for SD.
-"A man may be a fool and not know it, but not if he is married." - H.L. Mencken
Sorry, meant trap game.
-"A man may be a fool and not know it, but not if he is married." - H.L. Mencken
Uh
anybody see that interview on KCTV5 with a steamed up camera?
guess I should get up and turn to football
Ralph Wiggum would be a better GM than Dayton Moore
Ridiculously Bad!
That game was nothing short of dispicable!
by casselreadychiefs on Dec 6, 2009 4:14 PM CST reply actions
wow!
your gonna talk about quinten lawrence and wade, both fast receivers (by the way i hate wade) but you dont mention LONG who dropped a bunch!!! Lawrence is fast, maybe if our kickoff team blocked…..wow, and to everyone else STOP praising LONG, (if that happens)
So that's a pre-emptive
‘STOP praising LONG’?
Let’s break this down so you can understand it. The Chiefs are a bad, slow, talent poor team and Quinten can’t get off the bench enough to even think about dropping more then one pass a game that comes his way.
Quinten’s only redeeming feature is that he’s ‘fast’, but it’s not showing up in game, so there’s no reason to have him around.
The Kansas City Chief's 2009 record will be 5-11.
good one
hes a ROOKIE, he caught the pass that came to him, and hes giving a great effort, the other pass was to high. Long isnt the problem i just think he isnt much better now WADE doesnt like to catch, he got past the 20 each time with barely any blocking, he isnt charles but i like him returning and not Wade!
by Arrowhead Alec on Dec 6, 2009 4:34 PM CST up reply actions
Meh
even as a rookie, if he had any sort of talent, he’d be starting, especially with Bowe out.
As a counter-point, look at what Percy Harvin is doing for the Vikings. That is what a rookie with talent can do in the NFL.
The Kansas City Chief's 2009 record will be 5-11.
hes not first round talent!
he could be though, give him some time to develop!
by Arrowhead Alec on Dec 6, 2009 8:04 PM CST up reply actions
Now in all fairness
Long is supposed to suck
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by KCSatchmo on Dec 6, 2009 4:22 PM CST up reply actions
If you call wearing Bailey like a dress all day playing
yes
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by KCSatchmo on Dec 6, 2009 4:21 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
KCSatchmo
It seemed like Cassel had a lot of time to throw in this game, but couldn’t find an open receiver most of the time. Since you were at the game…would you say that the receivers couldn’t get open, or Cassel just couldn’t find them?
Predictions:
Kansas City will not win more than four games in 2009
Kansas City will have a new OC and DC in 2010
Kansas City will win at least seven games in 2010
Yes
;)
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by KCSatchmo on Dec 6, 2009 4:31 PM CST up reply actions
Srsly tho
There were very few open receivers. But “open” in the NFL is kinda in the eye of the beholder. We had our share of 1on1s and Cassel was terrible at pulling the trigger. He held the ball way to long way to many times.
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by KCSatchmo on Dec 6, 2009 4:33 PM CST up reply actions
ok
I’m so used to wide open receivers & tight ends having great days against our D, I was starting to believe that was the norm :P
Predictions:
Kansas City will not win more than four games in 2009
Kansas City will have a new OC and DC in 2010
Kansas City will win at least seven games in 2010
My god our ILBs and McGraw
have no idea how to cover a TE
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by KCSatchmo on Dec 6, 2009 4:40 PM CST up reply actions
Just got home
How ’bout them Chiefs huh?!? What special, special day.
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by KCSatchmo on Dec 6, 2009 4:20 PM CST reply actions
Yea dem Chiefs.
Blew out Denver 40-3 and kept the home streak since 1978 alive…
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
It's really a shame
that football isn’t a sport in the special olympics.
we’d own that shit
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by KCSatchmo on Dec 6, 2009 4:23 PM CST up reply actions
Oh hell yes.
Although Im not sure if we can even win the gold then
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
AllI ask it that we're in the hunt
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by KCSatchmo on Dec 6, 2009 4:25 PM CST up reply actions
the only way they're gonna sell out the Chiefs/Browns game
is by selling beer for 10 cents
Ralph Wiggum would be a better GM than Dayton Moore
The Bills wont sellout either
unless a sponsor steps up soon
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by KCSatchmo on Dec 6, 2009 4:22 PM CST up reply actions
like the Buffalo Chamber of Commerce
or TO buying a chunk of tickets for kids too poor to know that the Bills/Chiefs game is gonna suck
Ralph Wiggum would be a better GM than Dayton Moore
Something like that
All I know is that the folks in the ticket office aren’t hopeful
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by KCSatchmo on Dec 6, 2009 4:27 PM CST up reply actions
I should check Craigslist to see how low tickets are going for
I’d imagine that the value for Chiefs/Browns is gonna plunge after today
Ralph Wiggum would be a better GM than Dayton Moore
If you're looking to dump tickets
Do it quick. If you’re looking to acquire, wait until the last possible minute.
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by KCSatchmo on Dec 6, 2009 4:34 PM CST up reply actions
so
when looking to acquire, I should look for the guy with the Seuss hat by the entrance gate on Sunday morning?
Ralph Wiggum would be a better GM than Dayton Moore
hope the scalpers prefer being paid in firewood
or in meat
Ralph Wiggum would be a better GM than Dayton Moore
lol
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by KCSatchmo on Dec 6, 2009 4:42 PM CST up reply actions
And if you're really looking to acquire
I’d start calling folks on Craig’s the Friday b4 the game. You can get them in the lot day of if you want….but no telling what the quality of the tix will be
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by KCSatchmo on Dec 6, 2009 4:42 PM CST up reply actions
hm
i’d suspect Craigslist people really would accept a large screen TV that is essentially broken for a few tickets.
Well, the TV automatically shuts off when solid yellow is displayed on the screen, so something inside it is totally messed up
Ralph Wiggum would be a better GM than Dayton Moore
Awesome
I say turn that shit on it’s side and make a cool glowing coffee table out of it
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by KCSatchmo on Dec 6, 2009 4:55 PM CST up reply actions
the tough part is
carrying it up the stairs from the basement. So the seller might need to be a former pro wrestler to have the strength to pull that off
but I could add in some CDs that I disliked or maybe a Shamwow
Ralph Wiggum would be a better GM than Dayton Moore
Man the weather
Is shitty here in Hays, and i hear its bad by Salina…might be headed your way?!
uh
he always sounds that depessed, don’t jump to conclusions on how he sounds now
and it really doesn’t matter if Haley doesn’t come back. This team needs to stop relying on Patriots/Cardinals castoffs
Ralph Wiggum would be a better GM than Dayton Moore
I've got time to throw...wait...hmm?
The game as a whole was down right ugly if not one of the ugliest thus far in years for me personally. What I am most frustrated with in this game other then the wide receivers not catching the ball (Wade who missed numerous times, but we gave him a shot 3-4 more times in a row ??) was the amount of time that Cassel had pretty good decent time to throw the ball! I saw yet again Cassel not checking down and holding onto the ball too long. Difference this game was he actually had time to do check downs and get rid of the ball, but didn’t. Made me question him for the first time this season. What I have been wanting to see all year was a good pass protection and in my opinion got it, but to what avail? Nothing!! Cassel needs in my opinion especially when the pass protection is their (which granted hasn’t been a whole lot this year) do some check downs! I also notice a lot from him when the slightest of pressure is there he loses pocket awareness. Even in todays game I saw that 3 times. I understand that being sacked as much as he has that it might get overwhelming at times and your first tendency is to scramble out.. but come on.. where is the confidence? Very upset with Cassel and the offense as a whole, but more him as I do see some progress being made by our 0-Line. Defensive wise… Amazing what PRESSURE can do.. (need to do more of it)!!
Cassel has had problems with locing in to one reciever all year
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That's cause there is only ever 1 guy at a time on the field that can catch
and he’s hoping against hope that THAT guy will find a way to get open
The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynacism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw
Actually
I think the exact opposite is true. He’s trying to move through reads too much. He’s always thinking the next guy will be more open. He needs to just let it go.
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by KCSatchmo on Dec 6, 2009 4:44 PM CST up reply actions
To my own post
Going to go vomit now and get ready for KU basketball…At least I still have a team I can count on. Go (cough) Chiefs!!
Don't get too down
QBs can get better about pulling the trigger. Will he? I don’t know. But there’s no reason at this point to completely give up on the guy.
The Wade drop of that long pass was bad. But when you could really feel the team lose hope today was after that 1st and G from the 1 and we settle for a FG.
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by KCSatchmo on Dec 6, 2009 4:38 PM CST up reply actions
very
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by KCSatchmo on Dec 6, 2009 4:35 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not down on him
He’s just having a hard time pulling the trigger. He has so much pressure (mental not pass rush) on him to carry this team. He’s terrified of making a mistake. So he holds on too long…which is a mistake.
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by KCSatchmo on Dec 6, 2009 4:39 PM CST up reply actions
Give me a freaking break....please!
Cassel sucks really, really, really bad! Did I make my point? When a QB plays that bad, it’s NOT because they are having a bad day. It’s because they suck! Good QBs don’t have days like MC has had the last 2 Sundays. It may be hard for you to admit but, we have a really shitty QB and the worst part is, we are stuck with him for AT LEAST 3 seasons.
All this “give him time” shit is old. He has had 3 quarters of a season to show us whether or not he is a player. We have learned and he is not. Our top ten pick should be used on a QB this year. I am DONE with Matt Cassel.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Dec 6, 2009 5:16 PM CST up reply actions
Chiefs
There’s good news. The hapless Browns and Bills come into Arrowhead the next two weeks. As promised, until Week 17, Good luck!
Brad James
Kick some Chargers to the curb for us will ya
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by KCSatchmo on Dec 6, 2009 4:45 PM CST up reply actions
This team is an embarrassment
When the protection was actually good today, Cassel can’t find an open WR and when they were open they dropped them.
The run D was putrid. Plus no matter the personnel on either side of the ball, the Broncos offense makes our D look silly… we run right and they run left for 20+ yards.. its a joke and its irritating.
Either way, Clancy needs to go. 80 or so pts given up in 2 weeks in your own division? In excusable. He’s a coordinator where the numbers don’t lie… the Cards didn’t make significant additions or losses on D yet their D is much better than last year.
Clancy is a crime against humanity
There aren’t more than 7 or 8 guys on this team capable of playing championship level football. We have a long way to go.
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by KCSatchmo on Dec 6, 2009 4:47 PM CST up reply actions
I'm pretty sure he's gone after this season
He better be, anyway. I’m tired of seeing the other team’s best receiver being “covered” by a linebacker every week while our corners are… what? I don’t think they’re blitzing. Maybe they’re in a flat zone? Except we get torched on short passes and YAC every week? Or are they so worried about getting beat deep that they’re playing 15 yards off their man?
by Soria's Unibrow on Dec 6, 2009 4:49 PM CST up reply actions
WHat's really killing us
is that Flowers can pretty much lock his man down. But, since our coverage scheme doesn’t play to individual matchups, the only thing they have to do to get their #1 WR away from Flowers is move him into teh slot.
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by KCSatchmo on Dec 6, 2009 4:51 PM CST up reply actions
is Greg Robinson going to be unemployed again after this year?
kidding kidding
Ralph Wiggum would be a better GM than Dayton Moore
U Lurking out there CHRIS?
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by KCSatchmo on Dec 6, 2009 4:46 PM CST reply actions
Sad, just sad.
I haven’t missed a game this year, and I just don’t get how we can play up so well to Pittsburgh then do absolutely nothing against Denver and San Diego, the teams I hate the most.
by GonzosDirtyTrailer on Dec 6, 2009 4:54 PM CST reply actions
Not for nothing...
We are short of talent on D as well. Team desperately needs a nose tackle and a safety to patrol the middle of the field and make big plays and help the secondary in coverage. Our safeties are so slow
fake punt?
on your own 28 when the game is still a game? game over.
Just like novocaine. give it time; always works..
the Broncos couldn't tell the difference between Croyle and Colquitt anyways
so it wasn’t that stu—- oh wait, they weren’t fooled
Ralph Wiggum would be a better GM than Dayton Moore
When you're 3-8 you have nothing to lose trying it..
it was just very poorly executed… guy blocks the Bronco player who came in on Brodie then he should have no problem completing it to that guy downfield who was wide open.
Brodie is the answer
to our QB problems. Pioli needs to face it but he probably wont. Haley and Cassel took a big step back. Haley committed to starting Cassel again next week even though he’s the worst QB ever. We have no depth in a lot of positions, but I think a change at QB would be a good move in any attempt to resurrect this team from the ashes.
if Bruiser Brodie Croyle is the answer
the question probably sucks
Ralph Wiggum would be a better GM than Dayton Moore
I really hope you dont honestly believe that...
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by averagegatsby on Dec 6, 2009 5:32 PM CST up reply actions
hi guys
just wanted to drop in
okay i have cereal palsy arhrtis and chronic fatiue as well i have a grea life loveing folks some days are better that other days i got a make a wish in 2001 saw my favorive team the broncos was the trip of the lifetime i wish everyone couild gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that ok but i bleed organ and bule
yeah
hali played great today and i did not like den running on 4 and 1 we had the game won anyway u p played well too i throught u guys wouild played better for d t what did not heip u was the 10 drops balls
okay i have cereal palsy arhrtis and chronic fatiue as well i have a grea life loveing folks some days are better that other days i got a make a wish in 2001 saw my favorive team the broncos was the trip of the lifetime i wish everyone couild gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that ok but i bleed organ and bule
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