Chiefs GM, Scouts Have Long Days Preparing for NFL Draft
by Joel Thorman on Dec 4, 2009 9:18 AM CST
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PrintKansas City Chiefs GM Scott Pioli and fellow Chiefs scouts are winding down this part of the draft process and will begin to meet next week as we all wait for the college Bowl games to come along.
Pioli told Roger Twibell of 610 Sports this morning that the scouts will come back into town this weekend and 7AM-7PM meetings, six days a week, will begin.
Pioli and Co. will be talking about the prospects, comparing notes and setting up initial rankings. If there are any major discrepancies on a certain player, questions will be formulated so that they can get those answered as the Bowl games (December/January) and NFL Combine approaches (February).
He said he was able to make it to about 15 schools this college season and a few games as well. He also noted the talent in the Big 12 and the Big 10, which is nice for him because he's now in the midwest. Previously with New England, a trip to the midwest or west coast was more difficult with the distance involved.
(Note: You can tell Pioli is old school. He said the "Big 8" when referring to the Big 12 before correcting himself.)
"This is an exciting time for us," Pioli said.
Indeed it is. Along with the draft, free agency is approaching in a few months. This year is a little different, though, with the uncertainty of the Collective Bargaining Agreement. Whether a deal is struck in the next few months will determine whether many players are available.
Pioli said "a lot of people are sitting and wondering" in regards to the CBA and free agency.
"We'll try to be active in free agency," he said. "If there is an opportunity to improve the football team, we'll do it."
I was wondering about the Chiefs schedule in the offseason thinking things might slow down a little bit. There aren't daily practices, injury reports and game plans but it appears the Chiefs GM, head coach and their scouts will stay plenty busy.
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“This is an exciting time for us,” Pioli said.
Goody…glad you’re excited. Now do a better job of drafting. Because aside from Jackson and Succop, frankly, your last draft pretty much sucked.
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Really? Haven't been noticing the plays Magee has been making as of late?
2 sacks in the last 4 games for a guy who gets limited playing time. Hard to expect guys taken in the 4th round or later to do much in their first 12 games as a pro.
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I agree
Magee has been getting to the QB as well as anyone from our DL recently. I think he could end up being better than Jackson. He seems to have more attitude than Jackson.
Predictions:
Kansas City will not win more than four games in 2009
Kansas City will have a new OC and DC in 2010
Kansas City will win at least seven games in 2010
11 games in
Magee has far out performed Jackson as far as I can tell from the all the games I watched and the stat sheet. Magee has really progressed as the season has gone on which is what you want to see in a rookie. Jackson not so much. Last 3 games hes gotten steadily worse. Jackson is super slow off the line and gets no push. Hes a guy who tries to hold the point of attack and thats it…even on passing downs haha
I don't want no Yo-Yos
by CaptainPoopDeck on Dec 4, 2009 9:42 AM CST up reply actions
Maybe...
A new coach could help some of these guys? Personally, I’d like to see Krumrie gone this offseason. With the talent level we’ve supposidly had on the D-line the last few years…we should at least be decent, if not good. And the one constant in our poor D-line has been the coach.
Last year
We had a first and a third round pick the first day. Those are the only players who should be EXPECTED to perform in year one. Looking at what they have done and where we are at the draft was a success. we got players who are helping the team get better. We also landed some very effective rookie FA witch showes much promise for the future drafts.
This year we have a first two seconds and a third round pick. That is four players that should be EXPECTED to perform. Hopefully we can get atleast two more productive players in the fourth through fifth rd.
I wanted Pioli. I have mentioned my displeasure with the way he ran his first offseason. The fact that it was obvious they threw out Herms notes made me mad. However the moves that have been made since the season started I am in total favor of. I expect to have a VERY succesful offseason and a much improved team in 2010.
No I am not sold on Pendergast and do expect change in our coaching staff. However those moves I prefer to stay out of talking about because the only ones who know the truth about where the FAULT is on any week as far as the coaches are concerned are the coaches themselves and the front office. Yes as fans we see a bad formation or a bad play and we want to blame the cordinator but with the young and slightly inexperianced team we have. We don’t trully know weather it is a cordinators fault or someone was out of position. I will leave those decisions up to Pioli and Haley as I have stated many times I do have faith in the pair of them going into the future.
to captain
do think hes holding his place more b/c they want him to play run first then pass rush maybe to contain the qb or watch for short dump offs …Im not sure and I dont really knowtoo much other than basic football nothing deep now im just rambling Im going to pay attention to this when I watch the game Sunday
Great players dont win championships.....Great TEAMS win championships
didnt he
play DT and DE in college? If so he prob. helps knowing different techniques
Great players dont win championships.....Great TEAMS win championships
True
but for a team this bad, I’d expect those guys to at least be good enough to dress and play special teams (cough cough Donald Washington)
At least he'll be spending the entire offseason looking for talent that fits KC now
I don’t think it’s much of an excuse that he came in late last season, but I’d think the extra prep time will help out in some way.
Predictions:
Kansas City will not win more than four games in 2009
Kansas City will have a new OC and DC in 2010
Kansas City will win at least seven games in 2010
agree
also he has his haley too
and his set of scouts
and knows what his team really is talent-wise
by kcstevesportsfan on Dec 4, 2009 9:51 AM CST up reply actions
agreed
Pioli essentially missed all of FA last year for the Chiefs too while trying to get his staff together
I don't want no Yo-Yos
by CaptainPoopDeck on Dec 4, 2009 9:54 AM CST up reply actions
you suck Crawford.
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You forgot to mention...
…that Pioli also called the Denver Broncos the class of the AFC.
/puts head in oven
Is it possible
to acquire the entire Saints offense next year?
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by Chiefs_Ragnarok on Dec 4, 2009 9:38 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
3 easy picks
- best lineman available
- best lineman available
- best lineman availabe.
The Chiefs are going nowhere, till we build a better foundation.
Easy to think that
but our foundation is being built on the O-Line through FA and trades. Also our O-Line has been showing steady progress and is YOUNG except for Waters. That would be a terrible decision to get O-Line with the first picks as they are almost NEVER locks.
Our top 5 needs and only 1 is on the O-Line. FS, TE, NT, C, #2 HB
by kcchiefstd on Dec 4, 2009 12:43 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
For those curious
Current Chiefs pick: 7
Top 12:
1. Cleveland
2. St. Louis
3. Tampa Bay
4. Detroit
5. Washington
6. Oakland
7. Kansas City
8. Seattle
9. Buffalo
10. Denver (from Chicago)
11. San Francisco (from Carolina)
12. San Francisco
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thanks, was wondering this yesterday
Where do you think they’ll pick if my prediction holds, Chiefs finish 6-10.
I think it’s good to move down a little more.
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6-10 teams
usually pick around 9th. This year could be a log jam, though.
Same prediction here but I went through all teams and made my best guess as of order and Playoff teams
and Minn beats Indi in the SB. Favre nocks off two undefeated teams to retire SB Champ.
any way the way I think the season will end.
32nd or 1st pick St Louis Playoffs
2 Tampa Bay Wild Cards AFC
3 Clev Cinci > Pittsburg
4 Det NE > Baltimore
5 Wash
6 Oak NFC
7 Sea Ari > GB
8 Buff Philly < Giants
9 KC
10 Car Divisional
11 Chicago AFC
12 Mia Indi > Cinci
13 Jets San Diago < NE
14 Hou NFC
15 Tenn NO > Arizona
16 SF Minn > Giants
17 Atl
18 Jacks Conferance
19 Denver Indi > NE
20 Dallas NO < Minn SB Indi < Minn Running game wins SB.
With that pick 21 Green Bay
22 Pittsburg
23 Philly
24 Baltimore
25 Arizona
26 Giants
27 San Diago
28 Cinci
29 NE
30 NO
31 Indi
32 Minn Thats how I see it playing out.
Playoffs sry it cramped my spacing
Wild Card
AFC
Cinci > Pitt
NE > Balt
NFC
Ari > GB
Giants > Philly
Divisional
AFC
Indi > Cinci
NE > San Diago
NFC
NO > Ari
Minn > Giants
Conferance
AFC
Indi > NE
NFC
Minn > NO
Superbowl
Minn > Indi
Running game and defence win Suber Bowl.
Damn
SF is already brimming with talent. Two key 1st rounders could set them over the top
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by KansasCityShuffle on Dec 4, 2009 11:03 AM CST up reply actions
they are definitely going to be a good team
still unsure about their long term QB spot but looks like Smith is getting better
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Always liked Smith
he’s still young and developing. I wouldn’t draft a QB 1st round if I was SF, that’s for sure
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by KansasCityShuffle on Dec 4, 2009 11:16 AM CST up reply actions
They should have taken the home grown talent and picked Rodgers.
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No proof Rodgers could have done any better
Sure, he’s done better in the league but he would have been thrusted into a starters spot right out of college. Roles could have easily been switched where it was Smith who developed behind Favre for 3 years and Rodgers who failed out the gate. It’s also worth nothing that Mike McCarthy (now Rodgers HC) was apart of the staff in SF that selected Smith over Rodgers.
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by KansasCityShuffle on Dec 4, 2009 1:24 PM CST up reply actions
Words to live by
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by KansasCityShuffle on Dec 4, 2009 1:57 PM CST up reply actions
I don't have much faith in Smith
I have SF taking Jake Locker QB Washington and Dez Bryant WR Okl st in the first rd.
That gives them long term QB and another major threat across from Crabtree. with Crabtree, Davis, and Bryant they have the making of a VERY potent offense.
SF needs are OL, WR, NT, QB, OL, OLB in that order but anytime QB is on the list it moves to #1.
Those would be horrible picks for SF
They already have selected a WR & QB in the first rounds within the last 4 drafts. Even if you miss on them you can’t pull a Detroit and keep picking them till you get one right (Calvin Johnson). SF’s horribly needs to address their defensive secondary with Clements contract nearing the end and Dre Bly back there. My guess is they go for Haden out of FL. Their second pick is anybody’s guess. The way Franklin has stepped up this year and with Sopoaga’s play I think you’re way off on NT being a need. OL, yes. WR is arguable.
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by KansasCityShuffle on Dec 4, 2009 1:31 PM CST up reply actions
spiikes is who he needs to look into
That guys is a ball hawk and just can do it all and if we can get a nice big guy in the middle with dorsey your talking about an entire diff defense
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by sexassassin on Dec 4, 2009 9:55 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Spikes = 4-3
Chiefs = 3-4
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by KansasCityShuffle on Dec 4, 2009 11:17 AM CST up reply actions
I think he could play either
but, agreed that he’s a BETTER fit for a 4-3
McClain is the best ILB for a 3-4 in the draft
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers
Couple of sleepers for ILB:
Eric Norwood-South Carolina
Pat Angerer-Iowa
Both are tough guys who just make plays. They will probably both be available in 2nd or 3rd round.
I remember Dawson to Taylor, Kenney to Carson, and Blackledge catching the snap in his facemask. Seen it all...
I don't know if he is a 'sleeper'
… but I really like Micah Johnson out of Kentucky. I’ve only watched the TN/KY game and he was the dominate LB on the field that night.
McCoy was pretty solid for Tennessee.
Nice to have a
GM that is so truly excited about the draft and all the work that goes into it. I really believe we will begin to see Pioli turn this roster around in the next two years. He is much more aware of what this team needs for the style of play they want.
by kc2win on Dec 4, 2009 10:54 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Magee hasn't been doing better
sure he gets to the qb but, he isn’t supposed to.. He’s supposed to take up blocks.. Jackson gets double sometimes triple teamed.. Magee gets one guy and is fast and strong.. If we converted back to the 4-3 we’d be in much better shape as a defense..
boo this man!
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There is no such thing as a DL who is NOT suppose to get to the passer.
Taking up blocks is generally an assignment thing for run defense. If it is a pass and you can get free, you go get him. No DC in the league would ever tell a DE to not go for a sack. The hope is that a DL shows enough ability and penetration that the OL HAS to double him, which frees up someone else to get through.
I remember Dawson to Taylor, Kenney to Carson, and Blackledge catching the snap in his facemask. Seen it all...
Magee IS suppose to be getting to the QB
he’s not playing in the base defense, but coming in on passing downs to help put the pressure on.
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