Sounds Like Everyone Wants Chiefs RB Jamaal Charles to Break 1,000
by Joel Thorman on Dec 29, 2009 10:09 AM CST
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PrintI know most of us as fans want to see Kansas City Chiefs RB Jamaal Charles be rewarded for his work in the second half of the season. Charles is just 139 yards from 1,000 for the season, which would have been considered a near impossible feat just seven weeks ago.
"My fullbacks and offensive line are really trying to help me get there," Charles said. "They’re with me, the quarterback is in with me and the receivers are in with me. Everybody is in it with me and wants me to get it."
Indeed everyone is with him on this. Getting 1,000 yards as a rusher is not just a personal accomplishment. It's the offensive line, fullbacks, coaches and everyone that's in on it because the running game truly is a team effort.
"I think it would be meaningful for this organization if I reached it," Charles said. "It’s not just for me, but for my teammates and coaches. Everybody would come back and know that they have a back who can make plays for our offense and put us into a situation where we can win games."
Players, coaches and the rest of the organization want it. What about his family?
"Even my family wants me to get it because it’s been a small amount of time that I’ve played and it would be amazing to get that."
Charles went on to say that getting 1,000 is important for next season as well. Like winning this final game against the Broncos, getting to that milestone would be a confidence booster heading into '10.
What will he do for his offensive line if he gets it done?
"I’ll take them out to eat," Charles said. "I just appreciate what they do for me."
With just (just?) a $385,000 base salary this season, I don't imagine any cars will be bought for the linemen.
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Nope...
No cars…yet!
He’s gonna have to get paid pretty soon. I wonder if they will give him an extension this offseason?
He signed a three-year deal
So he’d be going into his final season in 2010. The influence of the looming lockout or uncapped seasons aside, I would definitely expect a nice extension. Dedric Ward got 4yrs. $17M, but I’m not sure how real that contract is.
On the other hand, it’s entirely possible that KC could end up just letting him play that final season on his contract, and then tendering him the maximum RFA offer in case he doesn’t work out a new contract for 2011. In that case, KC would have matching rights for any contract Charles signed with another team, and if KC were to decline to match, it would receive a 1st and 3rd in compensation. I don’t think that’s happened much, if at all, in the past five years, but it’s a possibility.
by burntorangehorn on Dec 29, 2009 1:16 PM CST up reply actions
Love it
Love a player who wants to do it more for the people grinding with him on the field than himself(cough cough, LJ) .. Just think if LJ was still runnin the damn ball, he’d have what, 5-600 yards? Wasn’t the workhorse in the first what, 3-4 games, and almost has 1,000? Props to you Charles the biggest if not only bright spot with the Chiefs this year!
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" …Everybody would come back and know that they have a back who can make plays for our offense and put us into a situation where we can win games."
Im pretty sure everybody knows regardless if he comes up a few yards short.
Don't Fuccop Succop
by chicks_love_chiefs on Dec 29, 2009 10:17 AM CST reply actions
Agreed
And the Chiefs DO need to concentrate more on taking away the Broncos playoffs than getting Charles 1,000…if the games out of reach go for it, but if we have shots at winning, call the gameplan to get us that win! 4-12 after going 2-14 is a step in the right direction I don’t care what anyone says.
it might just be me
but i think 1000 yds would be a lot less meaningful if the yds/ attempt were less then 4. I dont know Charles stats but just throwing that out there
Pujols takes out "I" in BIG and "A" in MAC, previously considered to be an unyielding, consonant threat
Charles’ average is very good. 5.2 YPC
by Ryan in Nixa on Dec 29, 2009 10:27 AM CST up reply actions
Hopefully it'll be up to 5.4 after the Denver game
Then we can proudly proclaim that Jamaal is twice the man 2.7 was
Predictions:
Kansas City will not win more than four games in 2009
Kansas City will have a new OC and DC in 2010
Kansas City will win at least seven games in 2010
Love to see it,
but I’d rather have Cassel impress me and get a win. That and a grand for JC would be a nice cap on a mostly craptastic season, though.
Yup
Cassel is the BIGGEST question mark at this point. Any marked improvement would be very encouraging.
from what ive watched this year
i honestly think hes tanking plays on purpose to put pioli in a good draft slot
Pujols takes out "I" in BIG and "A" in MAC, previously considered to be an unyielding, consonant threat
Yeah that's it
Cassel is tanking plays for the team.
Nice call there buck o
"I’d go to battle with him every day of the week." Todd Haley on Matt Cassel
This statement is why I am on the Cassel train, drinkin the Kool-Aid!
Man, I really doubt that.
This fanbase needs wins in a bad way. I don’t think Pioli OR Haley would take that approach.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Dec 29, 2009 10:34 AM CST up reply actions
Haleys playcalling
makes me question what hes doing to try and win
Pujols takes out "I" in BIG and "A" in MAC, previously considered to be an unyielding, consonant threat
im thinking that his playcalling
the last half of the year is to see how guys react in certain situations. It was already a lost year so maybe he is trying to see who can make plays and who cant to determine who they want back next year. Better to find out this year then wait till next year.
I haven't had too many complaints about the playcalling for quite some time.
I actually think it has been very balanced between run/pass.
The qb has to make the best reads and Cassel has not done a great job of that. He IS getting rid of the ball quicker though, it’s just not getting to the most open guy. Seems like he is trying to force the ball to Chambers a lot.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Dec 29, 2009 10:58 AM CST up reply actions
I agree
He is forcing the ball to Chambers.
The playcalling is much improved over the course of the year.
"I’d go to battle with him every day of the week." Todd Haley on Matt Cassel
This statement is why I am on the Cassel train, drinkin the Kool-Aid!
are you serious
other then Charles, Hali and maybe 1 or 2 others hes one of the only ones that goes out and gives 100% effort on every play. I will agree he hasnt looked sharp this year, but i think hes done alright with whats around him, does nobody remember Trents 1st year here, he looked aweful but the years following he looked ok
We can only pray that Cassel turns it around like Trent did.
Man, I hope so.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Dec 29, 2009 10:44 AM CST up reply actions
Im just saying
its an observation, what cassel did last year compared to this is interesting to me, I understand he had waaaaaaaaaaaayyyy better weapons, but just watching his checkdowns and the coverage hes been throwing into is a head scratcher.
On top of that my head is bleeding from scratching about the Tony G trade, if your going to bring in a new Qb to me you need to have a TE that can catch as a target.
other then that some of the plays it just looks like half the team takes em off
Pujols takes out "I" in BIG and "A" in MAC, previously considered to be an unyielding, consonant threat
Agreed
You got to give it to the guy. He gives it his ALL
"I’d go to battle with him every day of the week." Todd Haley on Matt Cassel
This statement is why I am on the Cassel train, drinkin the Kool-Aid!
How many super bowls did Trent win in KC?
Personally I liked Trent,but the your not comparing apples to apples. Trents first year here they were installing a new offense were you throw to a spot not a reciever. None of the players on the Chiefs staff had played in that system. When you throw to a spot and the reciever runs the wrong route it results in a pic or incompletion that makes it look like the QB threw the ball at nothing when in reality the WR wasnt on the same page as the QB.
Assel doesn't have to try to tank plays.
He’s a natural at it!
only 139 yards
he only needs to touch the ball like 20 times to get well over that, and his average is 5.2/ carry not bad
I say give him the ball and let him run all over the donkeys.
especially if you consider he has had two runs over 20 taken away
I think it may even be 2 over 40
Charles is great, Ive always been one of the charter members of the jamaal do it all charles fan club, and I hope he gets 1,000 yards…regardless, I think hes about to have a 2,000 yard from scrimmage season next year
as for cassel, I wouldnt call him our biggest question mark, how laughable, cassel has shown he can play well with talent around him…currently the only talent around cassel is charles….and I guess Bowe
i would say only talent is Charles
and I believe Charles will have over 2000 yards rushing next year, if he stays healthy, he didnt start 5 games and didnt even play in another and yet he can still have over 1000 yards this year. This kid is a stud
Don't know about 2000
That may be asking a little much. I think we still need another back to spell charles and be consistent in short yardage between the tackles
"I’d go to battle with him every day of the week." Todd Haley on Matt Cassel
This statement is why I am on the Cassel train, drinkin the Kool-Aid!
Not a bad Idea
Thats the best FA short yardage back suggestion I have heard.
Although I think he’ll want more money than hes worth and to be the featured back
"I’d go to battle with him every day of the week." Todd Haley on Matt Cassel
This statement is why I am on the Cassel train, drinkin the Kool-Aid!
Interesting
Two guys who faced off in the national championship game, now competing against each other for carries in the same backfield. The articles almost write themselves.
by burntorangehorn on Dec 29, 2009 1:18 PM CST up reply actions
It's entirely possible
The Bronco’s rank as the 5th best defense in the NFL right now, but against RB’s, they’re ranked 23rd giving up an average of 145 yards/game.
If any back in the league can get that, I think Charles is one that can.
If you only knew...
Charles success
sure makes the Jared Allen trade sting alot less.He and B. Alberts and Duan Morgan all came here because of that trade.
Are you sure about that?
The Chiefs had 3 third round picks, Charles was the first of them… I think that was our pick, not from Minnesota.
If you only knew...
I dont know about that
Morgan might not even be on the team next year and Alberts getting pushed around way to much for a LT. The man is JARED ALLEN. Lemme say that again. SACKS. PRESSURE. Albert and Morgan make nobody else better around them. Just think how good are corners would look? Just think how good Tamba would be right now. DJ might not be fighting for a roster spot and we might not be making a stretch for Jackson at 3. Losing him costed us so much more than gaining those extra players.
didn't get
much pressure in last nights game especially when it counted. How many sacks did he have in the 4th quarter for the Chiefs,0.
Dude,
You cannot argue that Jared Allen isn’t one of the greatest pass rushers in the game right now. He’s in the #2 spot for most sacks this season, was #5 last year, and was #1 in 2007.
Basing your piss poor analysis of JA from one game out of 15 is retarded. KCinIL is right. Keeping Jared Allen would have been something we could have built upon. Losing him left this defense with no super star, and NOTHING to build around. This defense completely lost all sense of identity when we traded him.
My sentiments are likely to be summed up with one of these 2 quotes:
"Shut the f--- up."- Matt Cassel
"WHAT THE F---?!?!"- Todd Haley
R.I.P. C.H., #15
by Red N Gold Beast on Dec 29, 2009 1:06 PM CST up reply actions
None of the picks were ours
We traded our 3rd to Detroit who then traded it to Miami who then drafted Kendall Langford.
JC was taken with Denver’s pick which we aquired from Minnin the JA trade.
Morgan was taken with Minn’s pick…JA trade.
Cottam was taken with the 3rd we aquired from Detroit. (Part of our trade up for Albert.)
This is my signature line. It is full of awesome and win.
by KCSatchmo on Dec 29, 2009 11:53 AM CST up reply actions
Either way
All of it didn’t go above and beyond the skill/motor of Allen. If you gotta get 2-3 guys to try and equalize 1 guy you lost, that was bad from the jump. And what do we still need to this day? Pressure, sacks, QB hurries, etc
agree
with KCinIL, that was absolutely stupid to trade Allen. From a marketing standpoint as well as merchandise. dudes a beast and i dont quite see the same playmaking ability from 2/3 people the chiefs got for him. Dont get me wrong Charles will be good but Allen is huge.
Pujols takes out "I" in BIG and "A" in MAC, previously considered to be an unyielding, consonant threat
You need to think big picture.
One player doth not a team make. If Alberts,Charles and Cottam and turn out to be solid players we came out smelling like a rose.You can’t go 4-12 after making LJ the highest paid RB in NFL history.Then turn around (with a team full of holes) and make JA the highest paid defensive player in NFL history and give up a 1st ,3-3rd’s and a sixth to keep him
Why would we give up picks to keep him?
He wanted to stay and extend his contract before it was up. If we did that Min wouldn’t have been able to make any kind of offer for him. And in doing so, we would’nt have offered dipshit that contract which probably would’ve made him leave. Which would look fantastic right now. I’m tired of the “big picture” speech how many of those have we run threw year-in n year-out. How many of these “big picture” plans have worked out. If your not stupid in decision making from the jump, we wouldnt need to waste top flight picks to try and find a replacement on something we not only had, but would be by far better than what we draft.
we wouldnt
have gotten the 1st ’the 3 thirds involved in the swap and the sixth
well we're gonna agree to dissagree
Because only 1 of those draft picks are non-movable to me(Charles). Alberts not adjusting to the defense adjusting to him this year, Cottam cant stay out of the first-aid kit, and Morgans gonna probably be with someone else next year. If “defense wins championships” Ill roll with Allen. But the point is outta all this is we still roll with the Arrowhead . Go Chiefs!
I agree.
Our plummet to the bottom of the ranks in defense coincided with us trading Allen. If he would have stayed, that would have meant that Carl paid him instead of LJ. Allen is still producing at a high level, and there’s nothing that leads me to believe that he won’t be one of the best pass rushers for the next 5 years. So we should have traded LJ for whatever we could have at the beginning of the 08 season, and drafted someone else…. it still might have been Charles. Granted, it’s all speculative, and hind sights 20/20, but I really think that is the truth.
Oh, yeah, and with JA and a mid ranked D, we would have won more games in 2008. Tony G probably wouldn’t have wanted out.
My sentiments are likely to be summed up with one of these 2 quotes:
"Shut the f--- up."- Matt Cassel
"WHAT THE F---?!?!"- Todd Haley
R.I.P. C.H., #15
by Red N Gold Beast on Dec 29, 2009 1:13 PM CST up reply actions
Jarred Allen
really hasn’t done much this season outside of the two Green Bay games. He has 6 sacks across the other 13 games. Two tackles & zero sacks last night in a very important game for that team.
True that Albert hasn’t had a very good season, but I think most agree that he can at least be an average LT or an excellent LG. I agree that Morgan probably won’t amount to much. Charles looks like he’ll be a guy getting 2000 all-purpose yards on offense for the next several years.
If we had kept Allen, we would have nobody to play LT, we would probably still be relying on LJ to be the primary RB, and we’d be completely wasting Allen’s talents as he’d be playing as a 3-4 DE.
Predictions:
Kansas City will not win more than four games in 2009
Kansas City will have a new OC and DC in 2010
Kansas City will win at least seven games in 2010
I disagree.
If Allen stays, then there’s no need to switch to a 4-3. Allen was the premiere star of our defense. He’s a 4-3 DE. They probably wouldn’t have made the switch when one of the super stars of the NFL was exceeding in a 4-3 front.
Actually, if we would have kept Allen, we probably would have gotten Ryan Clady. Dorsey was drafted to replace Allen. With Allen still here, we would have gone LT, IMO. The need for OL was not getting ignored in the ’08 draft.
Keeping Allen would have meant that LJ would have been traded. The rumor was that Peterson only wanted to pay one of them. Besides, we still might have drafted JC.
Allen really hasn’t done much outside of the 2 GB games?!?! He’s got 13.5 sacks on the season, putting him in the #2 spot for this year. He was 5th in the league with 14.5 last year. Besides, how would you feel if Tamba put up 7.5 sacks on the same division opponent twice? Bottom line is that he’s still one of the best DEs in the NFL, and far and away much better than any pass rusher we have now.
My sentiments are likely to be summed up with one of these 2 quotes:
"Shut the f--- up."- Matt Cassel
"WHAT THE F---?!?!"- Todd Haley
R.I.P. C.H., #15
by Red N Gold Beast on Dec 29, 2009 1:45 PM CST up reply actions
Jared Allen is 4-3 DE and we have 3-4 base defense now
I am glad the trade happened cuz we’ll see another Chris Johnson from KC baby!!!!
Just went to home page
clicked on 08 draft,we had no third of our own they all came from elsewere. Jamal was from Vikings in Jared Allen trade Alberts and Cottam as well.
I really hope he gets 1000!
Would be a great accomplishment if he does. Sad thing is, with a few less holding calls he would probably have already have1000 yards! The O-line has to realize once he flashes by there is no reason to hold. None of the guys they are blocking will ever get a chance on that play to catch him once he is gone. Of course the O-line is probably still having flashbacks at this time to “holding” the hole open for 10 seconds while 2.7 decides which one of the O-line he is going to hiney poke as he slowly moves towards the hole ;<p.
A while back there was a thead about knicknames for JC. The more I think about it “Flash Charles” (ie Flash Gordon) or just “Flash” would fit him well!
So you think you are so important that no one can replace you? Put your finger in a bucket of water and pull it out. Does it leave a hole? Nope, just some ripples that eventually calm themselves!
by Fan of the Red And Gold on Dec 29, 2009 12:29 PM CST reply actions
I think Haley would have looked great if he said
if Jamaal Charles does what he’s capable of doing this week, he’ll have no problem getting to 1000 yds.
King Carl made Jared Allen leave
Scott Pioli would have tried to keep him here . Jared said he wanted to stay in K C .
by Charles # 1 chiefs fan on Dec 29, 2009 12:38 PM CST reply actions
Pioli would make Jared A leave as well
Getting 1rd, 3-3rds picks are very good deal considered Jared Allen was 7th rounder.
Yep.
Don’t LJ Jamaal. Fortunately Haley isn’t afraid to use the passing game…. unlike the coach that broke LJ.
My sentiments are likely to be summed up with one of these 2 quotes:
"Shut the f--- up."- Matt Cassel
"WHAT THE F---?!?!"- Todd Haley
R.I.P. C.H., #15
by Red N Gold Beast on Dec 29, 2009 12:59 PM CST up reply actions
Guys:
We might have one of the greatest RBs ever. He’s only 23 years old. If we take care of him, we could potentially get 8 years of solid service from him. Suppose he gets 1800 yards for 5 of those and 1300 for the other 3. He could potentially put up 12,900 yards in his career here. That would put him at # 8 for all time rushers. I think that’s a reasonable expectation. Heck, even a 10,000 yard career from him would be totally awesome, and that would put him in the top 25 all time.
Let’s build this guy an elite offensive line and get a good tandem back to help alleviate some of his work load. I think we have something special in #25.
My sentiments are likely to be summed up with one of these 2 quotes:
"Shut the f--- up."- Matt Cassel
"WHAT THE F---?!?!"- Todd Haley
R.I.P. C.H., #15
by Red N Gold Beast on Dec 29, 2009 12:53 PM CST reply actions
Correction:
I forgot to add in the 1,116 yards he already owns. Add that the above number and we could get 14,016. That’s good for the #5 spot for all time. And that’s only 85 yards away from taking the #4 spot from Curtis Martin.
My sentiments are likely to be summed up with one of these 2 quotes:
"Shut the f--- up."- Matt Cassel
"WHAT THE F---?!?!"- Todd Haley
R.I.P. C.H., #15
by Red N Gold Beast on Dec 29, 2009 12:57 PM CST up reply actions
Wow, I'm a big JC fan, and have been since he was a freshman in college...
…but I think we’re getting pretty far ahead of ourselves here!
by burntorangehorn on Dec 29, 2009 1:20 PM CST up reply actions
Why?
He’s averaging over 5 ypc for his career. I’m just saying that the above numbers aren’t unreasonable or outlandish. They’re entirely possible. 1800 yards is the average mark for leading rushers. Jamaal has shown that he is one of the best in the league when you factor in games started, ypc and total yards.
I’m not saying it’s going to happen, but at this point it’s pretty obvious that we have a rare talent in JC. We can use this to our advantage.
My sentiments are likely to be summed up with one of these 2 quotes:
"Shut the f--- up."- Matt Cassel
"WHAT THE F---?!?!"- Todd Haley
R.I.P. C.H., #15
by Red N Gold Beast on Dec 29, 2009 1:52 PM CST up reply actions
There's a big difference between short spurts and sustained success
I mean, would you consider James Harrison the best RB in the league right now? Because over the past few games, he’s killing it.
It’s not realistic to extrapolate a seven- or ten- game stretch into a seven- or ten-year career.
by burntorangehorn on Dec 29, 2009 2:14 PM CST up reply actions
Add me as a member
of the Jamaal Charles club. This kid has so much heart and fire, it’s impressive.
It’s so refreshing to see an RB who makes plays happen, who doesn’t sit and wait for opportunities to come up. He takes the initiative and goes gets them.
I haven’t been this excited about an RB since Priest Holmes.
Big Bear
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