Chiefs Lose to the Bengals 17 to 10
The Kansas City Chiefs had a chance to tie the game at 17 but Matt Cassel's interception with just over a minute left sealed KC's fate.
Bengals win, 17 to 10.
Larry Johnson made a few brief appearances and made no real impact on the game. Chiefs LB Demorrio Williams tackled Johnson out of bounds in the second quarter and LJ came up jawing at Williams. That was the only real drama between LJ and his former team.
On this whole, this was an uneventful game. There were no big plays and only three touchdowns and two field goals scored. The ending didn't even live up to expectations - Matt Cassel's pass was intercepted with over a minute left. No Hail Mary to the end zone. No late game drama.
Very forgettable contest today, Chiefs fans. One more to go next week - Against Denver, in Denver.
Here are some thoughts on the game:
The Good
- RB Tim Castille's fourth quarter TD catch was just awesome on all accounts - Cassel's pass, Castille's toughness and the fact that it tied the game made it great.
- Jamaal Charles - 102 yards rushing on a hefty 24 carries.
- Bowe was the Chiefs' leading receiver. He had 9 catches for 61 yards. He was targeted the most as well - 12 times.
- The Chiefs were an incredible 7/15 on third downs.
The Bad
- The Chiefs allowed the Bengals to go on a 14 play, 7:16 drive to score the go ahead TD in the fourth quarter.
- Matt Cassel threw two interceptions and ended the day with a 58.4 passer rating. He was 22/37 for 180 yards and one touchdown to RB Tim Castille.
The Ugly
I have to say there wasn't much ugly to this game. Cedric Benson rushed for 133 yards on 29 carries but he was never dominant. Matt Cassel didn't have the best game but it wasn't ugly. I think this is the first part of any Chiefs game this year that hasn't had an "Ugly" portion.
What are your thoughts on the game today?
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Another example of a team that has no idea how to win games
Johnnie Morton: The Man. The Myth. The Legend.
by craig in calgary on Dec 27, 2009 3:07 PM CST reply actions
BTW Craig...
Today’s TD Celebration by Chad….I would agree with you…It was very much a “look at me try to look classy…” thing…
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by holding up a 15?
You guys would bitch if you were hung with a new rope.
Don't Fuccop Succop
by chicks_love_chiefs on Dec 27, 2009 3:13 PM CST up reply actions
Wasn't what he held up that did it...
Just how he kept it going and was trying to put himself on the stage and all. I duno, could be wrong…Just looked too much about him.
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I'm not sure what you are implying
Johnnie Morton: The Man. The Myth. The Legend.
by craig in calgary on Dec 27, 2009 3:14 PM CST up reply actions
Connor Barth just beat the Saints!
Johnnie Morton: The Man. The Myth. The Legend.
by craig in calgary on Dec 27, 2009 3:07 PM CST reply actions
He made a kick?
In a dome? No weather conditions? Ill still take a kicker that can put it further than the 15-10 on kickoffs
Another example of why we need better QB play
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
Huh?
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Dec 27, 2009 3:10 PM CST up reply actions
is the QB the problem?
serious question
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
RIP Chris Henry #15 (Bengals)
RIP Derrick Thomas #58 (Chiefs)
by NJChieffan16 on Dec 27, 2009 3:10 PM CST up reply actions
Yes
QB is the one position that will not be fixed by adding another player. There are lots of problems with this team and QB is a huge hole.
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Dec 27, 2009 3:12 PM CST up reply actions
Really?
So if we add a solid and consistent oline or another offensive weapon that can actually run routes and catch the ball then the QB won’t get better?
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Dec 27, 2009 3:16 PM CST up reply actions
honestly
I am not a huge cassel supporter as everyone well knows, but he did play pretty well today. Some bad throws here and there but he has stepped up the past few weeks.
59% passing 2 picks
Not a bad game FOR CASSEL. Terrible game for a franchise QB.
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Dec 27, 2009 3:13 PM CST up reply actions
dude did you watch the game?
or did you just look at the stats on NFL gamecenter? because I have been one of the strongest cassel critics all season and I saw him playing better this game. At this point I think you just have a vendetta against him and just argue for the sake of it.
Yes I watched the game
and no he didn’t play better than he did last week. Big improvement from the Denver game but that isnt saying much.
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Dec 27, 2009 3:24 PM CST up reply actions
didn't say better than last week
i said his last 2 weeks have been better than all season. He still has a long way to go to get my support but you can’t blame this or last week on him alone. If he continues to improve he will be a servicable #1 QB…not a pro-bowl guy, but he will get the job done…again that is IF he continues to improve
Franchise QB implies he would be a top 5 QB in the league...noone has implied that.
And I know you will argue money next…and no, he is not paid like a franchise QB, it is middle of the league when averaged. Don’t give me the front-end money, it is equaled out later.
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Not at all
Franchise QB implies that he is the man. There will be no replacement. And yes the Front end money is a big reason for that, the other being Pioli not wanting to cut his losses and take a blow on his first big move.
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Dec 27, 2009 3:26 PM CST up reply actions
No one is trying to make him an all star.
He is a game managing QB…his coach even only claims that.
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We traded a high 2nd round pick for him
Game managers come a dime a dozen.
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Dec 27, 2009 3:30 PM CST up reply actions
Here is a couple of game managers we could get for free at the end of the season
Kyle Orton
Chad Pennington
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Dec 27, 2009 3:32 PM CST up reply actions
no thanks on either of those
I still think Cassel is better than both of them
by Pontiaclvr on Dec 27, 2009 3:35 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
agreed
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers
His paycheck may suggest otherwise
He is currently the 6th highest paid QB in the league, and is responsible for the 3rd largest cap hit in the league.
I’m sure it will level out after this year because we are taking a big hit for picking him up while he was under the franchise tag. But for that kind of money, somebody is expecting him to perform in his pay-range.
I like Cassell personally and I think he is going to be good for this franchise.
I remember when Trent Green came to KC. His first season didn’t lead me to believe that he was eventually going to put up 3 straight 4,000+ yard seasons (the only other player to do that over that time-span was Peyton Manning mind you).
Give the man some time.
by Ochophosphate on Dec 27, 2009 5:37 PM CST up reply actions
in regards to my pay comment
I meant for this year, 2009 – not for the life of the contract.
by Ochophosphate on Dec 27, 2009 5:38 PM CST up reply actions
he's just a victum of the drops
like the announcers said during the game take a few of those drops back and we could easily have won 5-6 games. cassel isn’t the problem its the receivers plus anything less than #88 looks horrible to us
and a great TD pass
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers
caught by the fb
cause our receivers wouldnt dream of catching a td
Positive Yards! I've been sayin it for years.
get over it man
thats all you post about…lets not talk about our d not being able to stop people when they need to…or the fact that we normally have to keep at least a TE and a running back in during passing downs…or the fact that our recievers are going to break the record for most drops…..but no, lets blame it on the QB, the easiest scapegoat for people that don’t really look at whats going on…
by hock57 on Dec 27, 2009 3:15 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
+1
dude exactly its for people who don’t pay attention that’s like saying the royals lost because zack grienke didn’t pitch well…they obviously don’t pay attention
honestly, not that bad of a game for KC
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers
I love the fact that 2.7 got himself taken out of the game by throwing his little hissy fit
I’ll say it again – if the guy was any stupider he’d have to get set in the sun and watered once a week. GOOD RIDDANCE!!!!!
-"A man may be a fool and not know it, but not if he is married." - H.L. Mencken
Of course
Since that is more important to you than the Chiefs winning.
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Dec 27, 2009 3:09 PM CST up reply actions
Not quite, but I'm enjoying your pain as well
Ah – the sweet tears of bitterness! : )
-"A man may be a fool and not know it, but not if he is married." - H.L. Mencken
Yes it is painful
Watching our shitty QB lose another game
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Dec 27, 2009 3:15 PM CST up reply actions
You drop it
You annoy me. Maybe you should banned for the site. After all these people talking about former players that have no effect on us maybe they should be banned too.
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Dec 27, 2009 3:27 PM CST up reply actions
Cassel is no Green
You can keep dreaming about that one
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Dec 27, 2009 3:41 PM CST up reply actions
And neither are your predictions accurate for 2009!
Give him time, this team is bad in so many places.
by casselreadychiefs on Dec 27, 2009 11:23 PM CST up reply actions
yeah
it was totally his fault the bengals drove 98 yds for the winning td
Blame my wife!
Waiting until August 2010
Did I say that?
I never once said Cassel is the only problem. He is the biggest problem because only he can fix himself. I dont know if he has the work ethic to fix his mistakes, maybe he thinks his biggest problem is his WRs like you do. I dont know. Every other problem can be fixed with new players.
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Dec 27, 2009 3:29 PM CST up reply actions
you also RIPPED charles before his big games....you were wrong then, you are wrong now with cassel...its funny...
behind that line? with that many drops…
you just want to bash cassel?
why?
I have said several times
that my problem with Charles is the fumbles. The same problem Haley had with him when he left him on the bench and as a healthy scratch.
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Dec 27, 2009 3:37 PM CST up reply actions
I said many times
Cassel is the problem that wont be fixed. He will be there for at least 3 more years. The line has played better. The drops are a problem but again our coach believes that QB – WR timing is “overrated” so maybe they don’t practice together enough….
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Dec 27, 2009 3:39 PM CST up reply actions
The issue is
that he is the best we have. You can bash him all day, but this is a team sport. It takes the receivers catching, the line blocking, and the D keeping the other team out of the end zone. Cassel isn’t great, but he isn’t horrible. He needs players around him to help out. All in all, this was a better game by all.
But it's fun watching our "have to be twice as god to be shitty" former RB
get himself benched by being a grade A asshole. Like a balm on a burn!
-"A man may be a fool and not know it, but not if he is married." - H.L. Mencken
Yeah...
And I am a troll for “repetitively posting the same shit”. You guys are grade A _______________
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Dec 27, 2009 3:33 PM CST up reply actions
If everyone here is a grade A ________________
then why do you stay? I’m not telling you to leave (I find your little vendetta amusing) but how is fun for you? Why are you here?
We just disagree with you about a lot of things
But at least you’re out there with your predictions!
Chiefs 3-13, hey that’s right on.
“The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ.” Fail that.
“Bowe’s numbers will regress due to lack of decent QB play.” Possibly partly true, but also likely irrelevant, as DB cost himself 4 games with his suspension, and leads the team in drops. Classic case of a player who is not as good as his numbers. Talk about a guy who needs to improve his play but never seems to get better.
“The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays.” Except for the fact that the D got worse, true that.
My favorite
And only thing i liked about this game
LJ – 4 rushes for 11 yards. For per attempt average of 2.75
Some LJ hater no doubt....
He didn’t have a big game so that is worth an A to them
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Dec 27, 2009 3:10 PM CST up reply actions
Solid "C" game in all phases.
Plenty of mistakes, but they definitely played better than the last 2 weeks at Arrowhead. The team that played today would have easily beaten the Browns!
agreed
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers
Grades
Defense- C
Offense- D
Cassel- D
Flowers- B
Carr- D-
Bowe- C
Charles- B+
Chambers- C-
Vrable- B
Hali- C+
O-line- B
Would ya like a free NANAA!
by Jazzy Megalodon on Dec 27, 2009 3:09 PM CST reply actions
Sounds about right to me
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Dec 27, 2009 3:10 PM CST up reply actions
Hali was held all day so not sure how he gets a C+
Including a no call on 3rd and 6 from on 20 on the key drive of the game. Pathetic officiating with the game on the line.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Dec 27, 2009 3:11 PM CST up reply actions
Good Dback breakdown
One thing I’ve noticed this year…Flowers has gotten better, Carr has been exposed.
Johnnie Morton: The Man. The Myth. The Legend.
by craig in calgary on Dec 27, 2009 3:11 PM CST up reply actions
D-line- i'd give a B
Would ya like a free NANAA!
by Jazzy Megalodon on Dec 27, 2009 3:13 PM CST up reply actions
How can you give JC anything less than an A?
No one makes running against the Bengals this year easy. He had 100 yards. That is an elite rb!
no Touchdowns no big run.
i think a A should be above an beyond. i didnt see that today. he played solid.
Would ya like a free NANAA!
by Jazzy Megalodon on Dec 27, 2009 3:16 PM CST up reply actions
Too harsh on Cassel
He should get a C. The first INT never should have happened (Bowe alligator armed it). Last one was his fault, but he moved the team pretty well against a really good D.
-"A man may be a fool and not know it, but not if he is married." - H.L. Mencken
The 2nd should not have happened either.
A good WR makes nthe play or at least makes sure that the DB doesn’t. The throw was not that bad. Makes me want to make sure we get a WR in the 2nd round.
I'd give the O-line a C at best
I think Charles did a lot on his own to make it over 100 yards. He’d have had > 140 if Albert hadn’t been holding on a 43-yard run. False starts, again. With better O-line play I think they win the game.
Yup
and wasted again by the QB
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Dec 27, 2009 3:11 PM CST up reply actions
How so?
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Dec 27, 2009 3:11 PM CST up reply actions
Reposted from the last thread
Differing opinions are expected an make for a good discussion.
Constantly repeating your dislike of Cassel does nothing but grate on nerves. We understand you don’t think Cassel is a good QB, but it seems like having Cassel play poorly pleases you because is justifies an opinion you had before the season
Got to agree....
It becomes trolling…agenda’s are not conducive to good debates and discussions.
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Again,
You hate a player it is good to say how much he sucks. Someone else correctly points out how much a player you like sucks you try to ban them from the site. You know absolutely nothing about what is conductive to a good debate.
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Dec 27, 2009 3:18 PM CST up reply actions
Hmmmm....
Not sure what you are referring to. I have not really stated how much anyone sucks and you have not correctly pointed out that Cassel sucks by any means. In fact, in the face of the facts all you can do is repeat yourself.
Don’t try to play victim about your possible ban…You have been shown great mercy.
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Oh....Great mercy?
You are now the great and powerful man of mercy? Gee, if I had a dollar for everytime someone posted the made up 2.7 I would have so much money I wouldn’t have time to tell people how I wish our QB didnt suck.
In the face of what facts?
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Dec 27, 2009 3:36 PM CST up reply actions
Offensive
I think the only thing more offensive and annoying than your comments about Cassel, is your HORRIBLE spelling throughout this entire thread. “Conductive??” its CONDUCIVE. I mean REALLY? Read a book…
LJ is gone... Long live King Charles!!
by Vancouver Chiefs fan on Dec 27, 2009 3:48 PM CST up reply actions
No it doesn't please me
I wish to god he didnt suck so bad. As long as the Chiefs QB sucks, we will never make the playoffs.
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Dec 27, 2009 3:16 PM CST up reply actions
Trent Dilfer might have something to say about that, lol...
Dude, honestly…
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Please
Like the Chiefs are going to have that kind of defense anytime soon. Also Dilfer didn’t suck the way Cassel does
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Dec 27, 2009 3:19 PM CST up reply actions
one consequence of the Arena League folding
we can’t find any receivers to take Bobby Wade’s job
Ralph Wiggum would be a better GM than Dayton Moore
According to current strength of schedule,
We have the third pick… again.
lol I think we at 3
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
RIP Chris Henry #15 (Bengals)
RIP Derrick Thomas #58 (Chiefs)
by NJChieffan16 on Dec 27, 2009 3:13 PM CST up reply actions
Tampa and Cleveland surging at end of season,
KC moving up draft board.
by BCRavenJHawkfan on Dec 27, 2009 3:14 PM CST up reply actions
Offense...D
If you cant score when you have turnovers and opportunity..you will not win. WR Dez Bryant first round pick…we need weapons
nah man we need a stud safety or some o-line
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
RIP Chris Henry #15 (Bengals)
RIP Derrick Thomas #58 (Chiefs)
by NJChieffan16 on Dec 27, 2009 3:13 PM CST up reply actions
my thoughts are
charles almost had another 140 yard game, if it wasnt for that weak holding…regardless, 3rd straight 100 yard 20 carry game, with ONE fumble being the out of bounds kick return
If you're looking to close out the year on a positive note going into next season...
Then you can’t really complain about todays game win or loss. We went into a very good teams building in December with them trying to clinch a playoff spot and took them down to the wire with a gritty hard fought effort with a ton of positives.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Dec 27, 2009 3:15 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
And moreso...
This is a team who’s fans can relate to us. The Bengals have been the whipping boys of the NFL for years and had a good retooling year last year with alot of positives and really turned it around this year.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Dec 27, 2009 3:18 PM CST up reply actions
That would be sweet and very much deserved
for Charles and the O line.
-"A man may be a fool and not know it, but not if he is married." - H.L. Mencken
I gave a C only because we lost
one of our better efforts this season actually. The offense looked ok, the defense stepped up most of the game. Cassel looked better and the WR’s didn’t have many drops….
some good stuff
- only 1 sack allowed, on an all out blitz
- charles goes over 100 yds AGAIN
- FINALLY a contribution from O’Connell- a good catch and a punt block
- UNDER 150 yds rushing allowed
- 9 catches for Bowe
- Cassel showed great toughness and leadership, fought through injuries for that 1st half drive
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers
7/15(If i counted right) on third downs.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Dec 27, 2009 3:19 PM CST up reply actions
Oconnell...1 catch for 4 yards and a partially blocked punt.
Career day.
Don't Fuccop Succop
by chicks_love_chiefs on Dec 27, 2009 3:23 PM CST up reply actions
Hey - the punt block is HUGE
If that was all he did he should get an A.
-"A man may be a fool and not know it, but not if he is married." - H.L. Mencken
Gotta give them a C
They moved the ball fairly well against one of the tougher D’s in the league. The D held up well but gave up that 98 yard drive. Seems like we always try to make at least one bonehead play a week, this week the long snap. Had a chance to win, but didn’t – C.
-"A man may be a fool and not know it, but not if he is married." - H.L. Mencken
yes
Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...
by oldchiefsfan on Dec 27, 2009 3:21 PM CST up reply actions
We move up to 3rd
because of teh Cleveland win. Possibly 2nd with the TB win….not sure how we fare in a tiebreaker with them
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by KCSatchmo on Dec 27, 2009 3:22 PM CST up reply actions
Forgot about the Lions
you sure we win a tiebreaker with TB?
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by KCSatchmo on Dec 27, 2009 3:25 PM CST up reply actions
Tampa has us dominated on strength of schedule.
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by GenericBrand on Dec 27, 2009 3:30 PM CST up reply actions
I posted an afternoon NFL game open thread
For those interested:
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2009/12/27/1221142/afternoon-nfl-games-open-thread
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No
Guaranteed cash to rookies is going to kill future Chief teams.
I may be in the minority, but I think we need to win games to “hurt” our draft status
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by craig in calgary on Dec 27, 2009 3:27 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm with you Craig
I’m still hoping we can get out of the top 5. Out of the top 10 is best because you get out of the guaranteed money. No rookie who’s never played should be getting guaranteed money. It’s ridiculous.
-"A man may be a fool and not know it, but not if he is married." - H.L. Mencken
Totally agree Craig, I'm not looking forward to being in the top 5 at all.
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by oldchiefsfan on Dec 27, 2009 3:29 PM CST up reply actions
we have so much money to spend it doesn't matter
2nd pick, 5th pick…doesn’t matter everyone is afraid to spend money. I do think the NFL needs to get the rookie salary cap implemented though ASAP because it does get worse every year.
It does matter.
The more you have to set aside for a high risk rookie, the less you have available to go after solid free agents. Plus it’s almost impossible to get anyone to trade up there, so you can’t get any extra picks.
-"A man may be a fool and not know it, but not if he is married." - H.L. Mencken
2nd and 3rd round picks are generally considered to give the best value
trading down and picking them up is usually a good thing.
-"A man may be a fool and not know it, but not if he is married." - H.L. Mencken
Yeah, agreed, but it's very difficult to trade down
I think over time you see that 1st-round trade-down moves, especially from the top ten, are becoming increasingly rare.
I also tend to agree that KC should have tons of money to spend, they have very little veteran talent with high-value contracts. Given Dorsey’s value to the defense, I think his relatively big contract is really not out-of-line compared with the rest of the team.
I gave them a C. They played much better than in the past couple of games.
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Anybody think C.Chambers..
should of been able to bring in that last pass by Cassel? Also I think the line looked better this week. I’m not saying they looked great but better.
At very least knocked it out of Halls hands.
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by GenericBrand on Dec 27, 2009 3:25 PM CST up reply actions
Did Chad Johnson do the $2000 thing?
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by chicks_love_chiefs on Dec 27, 2009 3:27 PM CST reply actions
I'm guessing the $2000 thing
was planned for when he broke 10,000 yards… which didn’t happen.
Or… someone took him aside and suggested it might not be appropriate in a game in which Chris Henry was memorialized. Like Ochocinco would listen to somebody else.
John
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Good comment
I was wondering why he didn’t do it. But having it ready for his 10k would make sense.
-"A man may be a fool and not know it, but not if he is married." - H.L. Mencken
Picking in, the very most, top 6 now.
6th if we win next week and all the other 5 teams at the bottom lose.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
the first INT was a lot more on Cassel than the second
obviously the receivers can’t handle Cassel’s rocket arm
Ralph Wiggum would be a better GM than Dayton Moore
Neither were if you ask me.
When the balls in the air the WR is just as responsible for protecting the ball as the QB is and on the first Bowe gave up on a ball he couldve interfered with and the second Chambers couldve made a better play.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Dec 27, 2009 3:34 PM CST up reply actions
he once threw a football through a car door
or car window.. I forget which
Ralph Wiggum would be a better GM than Dayton Moore
forgettable?
Come on. I’m remebering this one. I don’t watch the games for “big plays”. I watch to see if the
Chiefs are getting better. I saw that today. What would the players say if they heard Chris call this performance forgettable? I’m sorry buddy, I love how you guys run this site but your game summary is dead wrong
by The Other Patrick Allen on Dec 27, 2009 3:38 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I think the process of progress should be remembered...
Interesting about this game…Hopefully you are right about that progress and it is not another Steelers repeat
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I agree we played well the entire game, aganst a good team, in their building in december with the playoffs on the line for them.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Dec 27, 2009 3:40 PM CST up reply actions
There are clearly guys on this team that want to play and want to earn their spots back.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Dec 27, 2009 3:41 PM CST up reply actions
I received 2 e-mails saying that Todd Haley fought a fan in the stands after the game
/s/
J. Harry
Ralph Wiggum would be a better GM than Dayton Moore
Probably the one Chiefs fan in Cincy right?
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by GenericBrand on Dec 27, 2009 3:42 PM CST up reply actions
Joke about the flipping off incident that didn't happen...
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Ha.
Better go post that on an inferior Chiefs site and maybe he will see it…
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i received several e-mails
that LJ spit his Gatorade in the face of a Bengals Cheerleader after the game
Hopefully,
this will be the spark that brings the Chiefs to kick some major butt in Denver next week.
I'll be there baby.
Can’t wait
by The Other Patrick Allen on Dec 27, 2009 3:54 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
positives
I love what is considered to be positives regarding the Chiefs. It’s like when the slow kid does something good it is magnified. What is considered to be simple fundamentals on good teams sticks out among Chiefs marginal plays. The Bengals played down to the Chiefs. Dorsey and Tyson Jackson are awful and look to be monumental busts. Only Detroit is for sure worse than the Chiefs. I don’t know if the Chiefs could beat St. Louis since Jackson would run for 300 yards. 75% of the current roster has to go.
gotta look for positives
when you are 9-38! over the past 3 seasons
Positive Yards! I've been sayin it for years.
Sorry buddy
But you are rooting for a slow kid NFL team. If you don’t like it and can’t find the positives then go find a new team
by The Other Patrick Allen on Dec 27, 2009 4:06 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I see the Bengals every week
This was not their best game, but pretty consistent with how they have been playing the last 5 weeks or so… aside from the San Diego game last week. Their passing attach has been ‘sleepy’ and their defense a little soft against the run. Cincy has for several years been a team that makes mistakes and dumb plays but in good years has enough talent to overcome.
talk to the jets
about Vernon Gholston. And better yet, look at cnnsi’s 2009 draft do over. There are very few players that were actually good picks.
You should really stop talking about busts on the D Line. It takes years for those players to adapt to the NFL game. Their job is different than what it was in college. They don’t blow through the line, and make big sacks. Their job is to take up blockers, and stuff the run.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/don_banks/12/15/redraft/index.html?eref=sihp

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