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Chiefs Lose to the Bengals 17 to 10

The Kansas City Chiefs had a chance to tie the game at 17 but Matt Cassel's interception with just over a minute left sealed KC's fate.

Bengals win, 17 to 10.

Larry Johnson made a few brief appearances and made no real impact on the game. Chiefs LB Demorrio Williams tackled Johnson out of bounds in the second quarter and LJ came up jawing at Williams. That was the only real drama between LJ and his former team.

On this whole, this was an uneventful game. There were no big plays and only three touchdowns and two field goals scored. The ending didn't even live up to expectations - Matt Cassel's pass was intercepted with over a minute left. No Hail Mary to the end zone. No late game drama.

Very forgettable contest today, Chiefs fans. One more to go next week - Against Denver, in Denver.

Here are some thoughts on the game:

Star-divide



The Good
  • RB Tim Castille's fourth quarter TD catch was just awesome on all accounts - Cassel's pass, Castille's toughness and the fact that it tied the game made it great.
  • Jamaal Charles - 102 yards rushing on a hefty 24 carries.
  • Bowe was the Chiefs' leading receiver. He had 9 catches for 61 yards. He was targeted the most as well - 12 times.
  • The Chiefs were an incredible 7/15 on third downs.

The Bad

  • The Chiefs allowed the Bengals to go on a 14 play, 7:16 drive to score the go ahead TD in the fourth quarter.
  • Matt Cassel threw two interceptions and ended the day with a 58.4 passer rating. He was 22/37 for 180 yards and one touchdown to RB Tim Castille.

The Ugly

I have to say there wasn't much ugly to this game. Cedric Benson rushed for 133 yards on 29 carries but he was never dominant. Matt Cassel didn't have the best game but it wasn't ugly. I think this is the first part of any Chiefs game this year that hasn't had an "Ugly" portion.

What are your thoughts on the game today?

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B
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C
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D
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F
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BTW Craig...

Today’s TD Celebration by Chad….I would agree with you…It was very much a “look at me try to look classy…” thing…

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by woodman212 on Dec 27, 2009 3:12 PM CST up reply actions  

by holding up a 15?

You guys would bitch if you were hung with a new rope.

Don't Fuccop Succop

by chicks_love_chiefs on Dec 27, 2009 3:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Wasn't what he held up that did it...

Just how he kept it going and was trying to put himself on the stage and all. I duno, could be wrong…Just looked too much about him.

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by woodman212 on Dec 27, 2009 3:19 PM CST up reply actions  

He made a kick?

In a dome? No weather conditions? Ill still take a kicker that can put it further than the 15-10 on kickoffs

by KCinIL on Dec 27, 2009 3:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Another example of why we need better QB play

Predictions for 2009:

The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ

Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.

The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays

Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for

Chiefs 3-13

by bonesjackson on Dec 27, 2009 3:07 PM CST reply actions  

Huh?

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Dec 27, 2009 3:10 PM CST up reply actions  

is the QB the problem?

serious question

When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
RIP Chris Henry #15 (Bengals)
RIP Derrick Thomas #58 (Chiefs)

by NJChieffan16 on Dec 27, 2009 3:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes

QB is the one position that will not be fixed by adding another player. There are lots of problems with this team and QB is a huge hole.

Predictions for 2009:

The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ

Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.

The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays

Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for

Chiefs 3-13

by bonesjackson on Dec 27, 2009 3:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Really?

So if we add a solid and consistent oline or another offensive weapon that can actually run routes and catch the ball then the QB won’t get better?

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Dec 27, 2009 3:16 PM CST up reply actions  

honestly

I am not a huge cassel supporter as everyone well knows, but he did play pretty well today. Some bad throws here and there but he has stepped up the past few weeks.

by KCCheeze on Dec 27, 2009 3:11 PM CST up reply actions  

59% passing 2 picks

Not a bad game FOR CASSEL. Terrible game for a franchise QB.

Predictions for 2009:

The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ

Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.

The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays

Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for

Chiefs 3-13

by bonesjackson on Dec 27, 2009 3:13 PM CST up reply actions  

dude did you watch the game?

or did you just look at the stats on NFL gamecenter? because I have been one of the strongest cassel critics all season and I saw him playing better this game. At this point I think you just have a vendetta against him and just argue for the sake of it.

by KCCheeze on Dec 27, 2009 3:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes I watched the game

and no he didn’t play better than he did last week. Big improvement from the Denver game but that isnt saying much.

Predictions for 2009:

The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ

Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.

The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays

Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for

Chiefs 3-13

by bonesjackson on Dec 27, 2009 3:24 PM CST up reply actions  

didn't say better than last week

i said his last 2 weeks have been better than all season. He still has a long way to go to get my support but you can’t blame this or last week on him alone. If he continues to improve he will be a servicable #1 QB…not a pro-bowl guy, but he will get the job done…again that is IF he continues to improve

by KCCheeze on Dec 27, 2009 3:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Franchise QB implies he would be a top 5 QB in the league...noone has implied that.

And I know you will argue money next…and no, he is not paid like a franchise QB, it is middle of the league when averaged. Don’t give me the front-end money, it is equaled out later.

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by woodman212 on Dec 27, 2009 3:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Not at all

Franchise QB implies that he is the man. There will be no replacement. And yes the Front end money is a big reason for that, the other being Pioli not wanting to cut his losses and take a blow on his first big move.

Predictions for 2009:

The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ

Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.

The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays

Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for

Chiefs 3-13

by bonesjackson on Dec 27, 2009 3:26 PM CST up reply actions  

No one is trying to make him an all star.

He is a game managing QB…his coach even only claims that.

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by woodman212 on Dec 27, 2009 3:28 PM CST up reply actions  

We traded a high 2nd round pick for him

Game managers come a dime a dozen.

Predictions for 2009:

The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ

Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.

The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays

Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for

Chiefs 3-13

by bonesjackson on Dec 27, 2009 3:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Here is a couple of game managers we could get for free at the end of the season

Kyle Orton
Chad Pennington

Predictions for 2009:

The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ

Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.

The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays

Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for

Chiefs 3-13

by bonesjackson on Dec 27, 2009 3:32 PM CST up reply actions  

no thanks on either of those

I still think Cassel is better than both of them

by Pontiaclvr on Dec 27, 2009 3:35 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

agreed

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers

by stagdsp on Dec 27, 2009 3:51 PM CST up reply actions  

His paycheck may suggest otherwise

He is currently the 6th highest paid QB in the league, and is responsible for the 3rd largest cap hit in the league.

I’m sure it will level out after this year because we are taking a big hit for picking him up while he was under the franchise tag. But for that kind of money, somebody is expecting him to perform in his pay-range.

I like Cassell personally and I think he is going to be good for this franchise.

I remember when Trent Green came to KC. His first season didn’t lead me to believe that he was eventually going to put up 3 straight 4,000+ yard seasons (the only other player to do that over that time-span was Peyton Manning mind you).

Give the man some time.

by Ochophosphate on Dec 27, 2009 5:37 PM CST up reply actions  

in regards to my pay comment

I meant for this year, 2009 – not for the life of the contract.

by Ochophosphate on Dec 27, 2009 5:38 PM CST up reply actions  

he's just a victum of the drops

like the announcers said during the game take a few of those drops back and we could easily have won 5-6 games. cassel isn’t the problem its the receivers plus anything less than #88 looks horrible to us

by kcchiefs19 on Dec 27, 2009 11:59 PM CST up reply actions  

22/37 for 180 yds

terrible

Blame my wife!
Waiting until August 2010

by sir eccles on Dec 27, 2009 3:12 PM CST up reply actions  

and a great TD pass

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers

by stagdsp on Dec 27, 2009 3:13 PM CST up reply actions  

caught by the fb

cause our receivers wouldnt dream of catching a td

Positive Yards! I've been sayin it for years.

by Russdabus on Dec 27, 2009 3:45 PM CST up reply actions  

get over it man

thats all you post about…lets not talk about our d not being able to stop people when they need to…or the fact that we normally have to keep at least a TE and a running back in during passing downs…or the fact that our recievers are going to break the record for most drops…..but no, lets blame it on the QB, the easiest scapegoat for people that don’t really look at whats going on…

by hock57 on Dec 27, 2009 3:15 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

+1

dude exactly its for people who don’t pay attention that’s like saying the royals lost because zack grienke didn’t pitch well…they obviously don’t pay attention

by kcchiefs19 on Dec 28, 2009 12:01 AM CST up reply actions  

honestly, not that bad of a game for KC

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers

by stagdsp on Dec 27, 2009 3:08 PM CST reply actions  

Agree

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by woodman212 on Dec 27, 2009 3:13 PM CST up reply actions  

for the D

offense makes me throw up in my mouth

Positive Yards! I've been sayin it for years.

by Russdabus on Dec 27, 2009 3:47 PM CST up reply actions  

I love the fact that 2.7 got himself taken out of the game by throwing his little hissy fit

I’ll say it again – if the guy was any stupider he’d have to get set in the sun and watered once a week. GOOD RIDDANCE!!!!!

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by Big Chief on Dec 27, 2009 3:08 PM CST reply actions  

Of course

Since that is more important to you than the Chiefs winning.

Predictions for 2009:

The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ

Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.

The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays

Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for

Chiefs 3-13

by bonesjackson on Dec 27, 2009 3:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Not quite, but I'm enjoying your pain as well

Ah – the sweet tears of bitterness! : )

-"A man may be a fool and not know it, but not if he is married." - H.L. Mencken

by Big Chief on Dec 27, 2009 3:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes it is painful

Watching our shitty QB lose another game

Predictions for 2009:

The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ

Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.

The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays

Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for

Chiefs 3-13

by bonesjackson on Dec 27, 2009 3:15 PM CST up reply actions  

seriously dude?

drop it already! you are getting extremely annoying

by Pontiaclvr on Dec 27, 2009 3:16 PM CST up reply actions  

You drop it

You annoy me. Maybe you should banned for the site. After all these people talking about former players that have no effect on us maybe they should be banned too.

Predictions for 2009:

The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ

Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.

The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays

Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for

Chiefs 3-13

by bonesjackson on Dec 27, 2009 3:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Cassel is no Green

You can keep dreaming about that one

Predictions for 2009:

The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ

Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.

The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays

Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for

Chiefs 3-13

by bonesjackson on Dec 27, 2009 3:41 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah

it was totally his fault the bengals drove 98 yds for the winning td

Blame my wife!
Waiting until August 2010

by sir eccles on Dec 27, 2009 3:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Did I say that?

I never once said Cassel is the only problem. He is the biggest problem because only he can fix himself. I dont know if he has the work ethic to fix his mistakes, maybe he thinks his biggest problem is his WRs like you do. I dont know. Every other problem can be fixed with new players.

Predictions for 2009:

The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ

Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.

The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays

Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for

Chiefs 3-13

by bonesjackson on Dec 27, 2009 3:29 PM CST up reply actions  

I have said several times

that my problem with Charles is the fumbles. The same problem Haley had with him when he left him on the bench and as a healthy scratch.

Predictions for 2009:

The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ

Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.

The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays

Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for

Chiefs 3-13

by bonesjackson on Dec 27, 2009 3:37 PM CST up reply actions  

I said many times

Cassel is the problem that wont be fixed. He will be there for at least 3 more years. The line has played better. The drops are a problem but again our coach believes that QB – WR timing is “overrated” so maybe they don’t practice together enough….

Predictions for 2009:

The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ

Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.

The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays

Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for

Chiefs 3-13

by bonesjackson on Dec 27, 2009 3:39 PM CST up reply actions  

The issue is

that he is the best we have. You can bash him all day, but this is a team sport. It takes the receivers catching, the line blocking, and the D keeping the other team out of the end zone. Cassel isn’t great, but he isn’t horrible. He needs players around him to help out. All in all, this was a better game by all.

by TXChiefan on Dec 27, 2009 3:43 PM CST up reply actions  

yes

according to him everything is Cassels fault

by badassz1987 on Dec 27, 2009 4:20 PM CST up reply actions  

But it's fun watching our "have to be twice as god to be shitty" former RB

get himself benched by being a grade A asshole. Like a balm on a burn!

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by Big Chief on Dec 27, 2009 3:20 PM CST up reply actions  

"good"

-"A man may be a fool and not know it, but not if he is married." - H.L. Mencken

by Big Chief on Dec 27, 2009 3:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah...

And I am a troll for “repetitively posting the same shit”. You guys are grade A _______________

Predictions for 2009:

The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ

Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.

The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays

Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for

Chiefs 3-13

by bonesjackson on Dec 27, 2009 3:33 PM CST up reply actions  

If everyone here is a grade A ________________

then why do you stay? I’m not telling you to leave (I find your little vendetta amusing) but how is fun for you? Why are you here?

by Aperture on Dec 27, 2009 3:38 PM CST up reply actions  

We just disagree with you about a lot of things

But at least you’re out there with your predictions!

Chiefs 3-13, hey that’s right on.

“The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ.” Fail that.

“Bowe’s numbers will regress due to lack of decent QB play.” Possibly partly true, but also likely irrelevant, as DB cost himself 4 games with his suspension, and leads the team in drops. Classic case of a player who is not as good as his numbers. Talk about a guy who needs to improve his play but never seems to get better.

“The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays.” Except for the fact that the D got worse, true that.

by Wheatboy74 on Dec 27, 2009 3:59 PM CST up reply actions  

My favorite

And only thing i liked about this game

LJ – 4 rushes for 11 yards. For per attempt average of 2.75

by cawksrawks on Dec 27, 2009 3:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Who gave us an A? LOL

Raiders Suck!!!

by pokerjoe on Dec 27, 2009 3:09 PM CST reply actions  

Some LJ hater no doubt....

He didn’t have a big game so that is worth an A to them

Predictions for 2009:

The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ

Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.

The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays

Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for

Chiefs 3-13

by bonesjackson on Dec 27, 2009 3:10 PM CST up reply actions  

seriously

i was thinking the same thing

Positive Yards! I've been sayin it for years.

by Russdabus on Dec 27, 2009 3:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Solid "C" game in all phases.

Plenty of mistakes, but they definitely played better than the last 2 weeks at Arrowhead. The team that played today would have easily beaten the Browns!

by RrustyDawg on Dec 27, 2009 3:09 PM CST reply actions  

agreed

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers

by stagdsp on Dec 27, 2009 3:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Grades

Defense- C
Offense- D

Cassel- D
Flowers- B
Carr- D-
Bowe- C
Charles- B+
Chambers- C-
Vrable- B
Hali- C+
O-line- B

Would ya like a free NANAA!

by Jazzy Megalodon on Dec 27, 2009 3:09 PM CST reply actions  

Thats a good breakdown

Raiders Suck!!!

by pokerjoe on Dec 27, 2009 3:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Sounds about right to me

Predictions for 2009:

The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ

Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.

The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays

Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for

Chiefs 3-13

by bonesjackson on Dec 27, 2009 3:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Hali was held all day so not sure how he gets a C+

Including a no call on 3rd and 6 from on 20 on the key drive of the game. Pathetic officiating with the game on the line.

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Dec 27, 2009 3:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Good Dback breakdown

One thing I’ve noticed this year…Flowers has gotten better, Carr has been exposed.

Johnnie Morton: The Man. The Myth. The Legend.

by craig in calgary on Dec 27, 2009 3:11 PM CST up reply actions  

How about our De’s? for ind grades?

by karkz86 on Dec 27, 2009 3:11 PM CST up reply actions  

How can you give JC anything less than an A?

No one makes running against the Bengals this year easy. He had 100 yards. That is an elite rb!

by davidv on Dec 27, 2009 3:14 PM CST up reply actions  

no Touchdowns no big run.

i think a A should be above an beyond. i didnt see that today. he played solid.

Would ya like a free NANAA!

by Jazzy Megalodon on Dec 27, 2009 3:16 PM CST up reply actions  

he has a big run

but it got called back on a questionable call

swish

by swish7209 on Dec 27, 2009 3:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Too harsh on Cassel

He should get a C. The first INT never should have happened (Bowe alligator armed it). Last one was his fault, but he moved the team pretty well against a really good D.

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by Big Chief on Dec 27, 2009 3:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah

the first int was on bowe, his ass should have been sitting the rest the game after that crap

by badassz1987 on Dec 27, 2009 4:34 PM CST up reply actions  

The 2nd should not have happened either.

A good WR makes nthe play or at least makes sure that the DB doesn’t. The throw was not that bad. Makes me want to make sure we get a WR in the 2nd round.

by Helmets on Dec 27, 2009 9:17 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd give the O-line a C at best

I think Charles did a lot on his own to make it over 100 yards. He’d have had > 140 if Albert hadn’t been holding on a 43-yard run. False starts, again. With better O-line play I think they win the game.

by Wheatboy74 on Dec 27, 2009 4:03 PM CST up reply actions  

McGraw had a heck of a Pick

Before you build yourself up, you must tear somebody else down.

by Zennedy on Dec 27, 2009 3:10 PM CST reply actions  

Yup

and wasted again by the QB

Predictions for 2009:

The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ

Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.

The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays

Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for

Chiefs 3-13

by bonesjackson on Dec 27, 2009 3:11 PM CST up reply actions  

How so?

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Dec 27, 2009 3:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Reposted from the last thread

Differing opinions are expected an make for a good discussion.
Constantly repeating your dislike of Cassel does nothing but grate on nerves. We understand you don’t think Cassel is a good QB, but it seems like having Cassel play poorly pleases you because is justifies an opinion you had before the season

by Aperture on Dec 27, 2009 3:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Got to agree....

It becomes trolling…agenda’s are not conducive to good debates and discussions.

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by woodman212 on Dec 27, 2009 3:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Again,

You hate a player it is good to say how much he sucks. Someone else correctly points out how much a player you like sucks you try to ban them from the site. You know absolutely nothing about what is conductive to a good debate.

Predictions for 2009:

The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ

Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.

The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays

Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for

Chiefs 3-13

by bonesjackson on Dec 27, 2009 3:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Hmmmm....

Not sure what you are referring to. I have not really stated how much anyone sucks and you have not correctly pointed out that Cassel sucks by any means. In fact, in the face of the facts all you can do is repeat yourself.

Don’t try to play victim about your possible ban…You have been shown great mercy.

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by woodman212 on Dec 27, 2009 3:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh....Great mercy?

You are now the great and powerful man of mercy? Gee, if I had a dollar for everytime someone posted the made up 2.7 I would have so much money I wouldn’t have time to tell people how I wish our QB didnt suck.

In the face of what facts?

Predictions for 2009:

The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ

Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.

The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays

Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for

Chiefs 3-13

by bonesjackson on Dec 27, 2009 3:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Woodman,

are you still somewhat of a moderator on here?

by Pontiaclvr on Dec 27, 2009 3:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes, sir.

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by woodman212 on Dec 27, 2009 3:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Offensive

I think the only thing more offensive and annoying than your comments about Cassel, is your HORRIBLE spelling throughout this entire thread. “Conductive??” its CONDUCIVE. I mean REALLY? Read a book…

LJ is gone... Long live King Charles!!

by Vancouver Chiefs fan on Dec 27, 2009 3:48 PM CST up reply actions  

No it doesn't please me

I wish to god he didnt suck so bad. As long as the Chiefs QB sucks, we will never make the playoffs.

Predictions for 2009:

The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ

Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.

The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays

Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for

Chiefs 3-13

by bonesjackson on Dec 27, 2009 3:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Trent Dilfer might have something to say about that, lol...

Dude, honestly…

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by woodman212 on Dec 27, 2009 3:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Please

Like the Chiefs are going to have that kind of defense anytime soon. Also Dilfer didn’t suck the way Cassel does

Predictions for 2009:

The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ

Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.

The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays

Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for

Chiefs 3-13

by bonesjackson on Dec 27, 2009 3:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Okay...

Could please explain that one?

by kcgiant06 on Dec 28, 2009 12:24 AM CST up reply actions  

one consequence of the Arena League folding

we can’t find any receivers to take Bobby Wade’s job

Ralph Wiggum would be a better GM than Dayton Moore

by BHWick on Dec 27, 2009 3:11 PM CST reply actions  

lol I think we at 3

When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
RIP Chris Henry #15 (Bengals)
RIP Derrick Thomas #58 (Chiefs)

by NJChieffan16 on Dec 27, 2009 3:13 PM CST up reply actions  

haha

if detroit wins we get the #2

by KCCheeze on Dec 27, 2009 3:14 PM CST up reply actions  

my thoughts are

charles almost had another 140 yard game, if it wasnt for that weak holding…regardless, 3rd straight 100 yard 20 carry game, with ONE fumble being the out of bounds kick return

by SDChief on Dec 27, 2009 3:12 PM CST reply actions  

If you're looking to close out the year on a positive note going into next season...

Then you can’t really complain about todays game win or loss. We went into a very good teams building in December with them trying to clinch a playoff spot and took them down to the wire with a gritty hard fought effort with a ton of positives.

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Dec 27, 2009 3:15 PM CST reply actions   2 recs

And moreso...

This is a team who’s fans can relate to us. The Bengals have been the whipping boys of the NFL for years and had a good retooling year last year with alot of positives and really turned it around this year.

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Dec 27, 2009 3:18 PM CST up reply actions  

C+ or B-

Winnable, and mostly decent D. Much better.

by crackpipe on Dec 27, 2009 3:15 PM CST reply actions  

Well, JC only needs 139 yards

against Denver to reach 1000 for the year

by sapper12b on Dec 27, 2009 3:16 PM CST reply actions  

That would be sweet and very much deserved

for Charles and the O line.

-"A man may be a fool and not know it, but not if he is married." - H.L. Mencken

by Big Chief on Dec 27, 2009 3:25 PM CST up reply actions  

I gave a C only because we lost

one of our better efforts this season actually. The offense looked ok, the defense stepped up most of the game. Cassel looked better and the WR’s didn’t have many drops….

by KCCheeze on Dec 27, 2009 3:17 PM CST reply actions  

some good stuff
  • only 1 sack allowed, on an all out blitz
  • charles goes over 100 yds AGAIN
  • FINALLY a contribution from O’Connell- a good catch and a punt block
  • UNDER 150 yds rushing allowed
  • 9 catches for Bowe
  • Cassel showed great toughness and leadership, fought through injuries for that 1st half drive

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers

by stagdsp on Dec 27, 2009 3:17 PM CST reply actions  

7/15(If i counted right) on third downs.

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Dec 27, 2009 3:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Hey - the punt block is HUGE

If that was all he did he should get an A.

-"A man may be a fool and not know it, but not if he is married." - H.L. Mencken

by Big Chief on Dec 27, 2009 3:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Gotta give them a C

They moved the ball fairly well against one of the tougher D’s in the league. The D held up well but gave up that 98 yard drive. Seems like we always try to make at least one bonehead play a week, this week the long snap. Had a chance to win, but didn’t – C.

-"A man may be a fool and not know it, but not if he is married." - H.L. Mencken

by Big Chief on Dec 27, 2009 3:17 PM CST reply actions  

So do we get the 3rd pick now that the Bucs won?

Joe

Raiders Suck!!!

by pokerjoe on Dec 27, 2009 3:20 PM CST reply actions  

yes

Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...

by oldchiefsfan on Dec 27, 2009 3:21 PM CST up reply actions  

We move up to 3rd

because of teh Cleveland win. Possibly 2nd with the TB win….not sure how we fare in a tiebreaker with them

This is my signature line. It is full of awesome and win.

by KCSatchmo on Dec 27, 2009 3:22 PM CST up reply actions  

we have 3rd

rams and liobns still have worse records

by KCCheeze on Dec 27, 2009 3:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Forgot about the Lions

you sure we win a tiebreaker with TB?

This is my signature line. It is full of awesome and win.

by KCSatchmo on Dec 27, 2009 3:25 PM CST up reply actions  

yes

and i think if detroit wins we also win the tiebreaker with them…not 100% sure on detroit yet though

by KCCheeze on Dec 27, 2009 3:28 PM CST up reply actions  

sickening

Raiders Suck!!!

by pokerjoe on Dec 27, 2009 3:21 PM CST reply actions  

So,should I be cheering for Detroit to win so we can move up to 2nd?

Raiders Suck!!!

by pokerjoe on Dec 27, 2009 3:25 PM CST up reply actions  

No

Guaranteed cash to rookies is going to kill future Chief teams.
I may be in the minority, but I think we need to win games to “hurt” our draft status

Johnnie Morton: The Man. The Myth. The Legend.

by craig in calgary on Dec 27, 2009 3:27 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I'm with you Craig

I’m still hoping we can get out of the top 5. Out of the top 10 is best because you get out of the guaranteed money. No rookie who’s never played should be getting guaranteed money. It’s ridiculous.

-"A man may be a fool and not know it, but not if he is married." - H.L. Mencken

by Big Chief on Dec 27, 2009 3:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Totally agree Craig, I'm not looking forward to being in the top 5 at all.

Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...

by oldchiefsfan on Dec 27, 2009 3:29 PM CST up reply actions  

we have so much money to spend it doesn't matter

2nd pick, 5th pick…doesn’t matter everyone is afraid to spend money. I do think the NFL needs to get the rookie salary cap implemented though ASAP because it does get worse every year.

by KCCheeze on Dec 27, 2009 3:31 PM CST up reply actions  

It does matter.

The more you have to set aside for a high risk rookie, the less you have available to go after solid free agents. Plus it’s almost impossible to get anyone to trade up there, so you can’t get any extra picks.

-"A man may be a fool and not know it, but not if he is married." - H.L. Mencken

by Big Chief on Dec 27, 2009 3:34 PM CST up reply actions  

2nd and 3rd round picks are generally considered to give the best value

trading down and picking them up is usually a good thing.

-"A man may be a fool and not know it, but not if he is married." - H.L. Mencken

by Big Chief on Dec 27, 2009 3:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, agreed, but it's very difficult to trade down

I think over time you see that 1st-round trade-down moves, especially from the top ten, are becoming increasingly rare.

I also tend to agree that KC should have tons of money to spend, they have very little veteran talent with high-value contracts. Given Dorsey’s value to the defense, I think his relatively big contract is really not out-of-line compared with the rest of the team.

by Wheatboy74 on Dec 27, 2009 4:13 PM CST up reply actions  

I gave them a C. They played much better than in the past couple of games.

Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...

by oldchiefsfan on Dec 27, 2009 3:22 PM CST reply actions  

Anybody think C.Chambers..

should of been able to bring in that last pass by Cassel? Also I think the line looked better this week. I’m not saying they looked great but better.

by chiefs_fan05 on Dec 27, 2009 3:25 PM CST reply actions  

At very least knocked it out of Halls hands.

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Dec 27, 2009 3:25 PM CST up reply actions  

no

he just held up 1 5 for chris henry…nothing more

by KCCheeze on Dec 27, 2009 3:28 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm guessing the $2000 thing

was planned for when he broke 10,000 yards… which didn’t happen.

Or… someone took him aside and suggested it might not be appropriate in a game in which Chris Henry was memorialized. Like Ochocinco would listen to somebody else.

John

"Gentlemen! You can't fight in here. This is the War Room!"

by RDOGuy on Dec 27, 2009 3:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Good comment

I was wondering why he didn’t do it. But having it ready for his 10k would make sense.

-"A man may be a fool and not know it, but not if he is married." - H.L. Mencken

by Big Chief on Dec 27, 2009 3:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Picking in, the very most, top 6 now.

6th if we win next week and all the other 5 teams at the bottom lose.

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Dec 27, 2009 3:32 PM CST reply actions  

the first INT was a lot more on Cassel than the second

obviously the receivers can’t handle Cassel’s rocket arm

Ralph Wiggum would be a better GM than Dayton Moore

by BHWick on Dec 27, 2009 3:32 PM CST reply actions  

Neither were if you ask me.

When the balls in the air the WR is just as responsible for protecting the ball as the QB is and on the first Bowe gave up on a ball he couldve interfered with and the second Chambers couldve made a better play.

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Dec 27, 2009 3:34 PM CST up reply actions  

lol

you said cassel and rocket arm in the same sentence

by KCCheeze on Dec 27, 2009 3:34 PM CST up reply actions  

he once threw a football through a car door

or car window.. I forget which

Ralph Wiggum would be a better GM than Dayton Moore

by BHWick on Dec 27, 2009 3:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Just hope these few hard fought games we have had turn into wins next year with some improve talent, coaching etc

by karkz86 on Dec 27, 2009 3:33 PM CST reply actions  

forgettable?

Come on. I’m remebering this one. I don’t watch the games for “big plays”. I watch to see if the
Chiefs are getting better. I saw that today. What would the players say if they heard Chris call this performance forgettable? I’m sorry buddy, I love how you guys run this site but your game summary is dead wrong

by The Other Patrick Allen on Dec 27, 2009 3:38 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

I think the process of progress should be remembered...

Interesting about this game…Hopefully you are right about that progress and it is not another Steelers repeat

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by woodman212 on Dec 27, 2009 3:40 PM CST up reply actions  

I received 2 e-mails saying that Todd Haley fought a fan in the stands after the game

/s/
J. Harry

Ralph Wiggum would be a better GM than Dayton Moore

by BHWick on Dec 27, 2009 3:41 PM CST reply actions  

Probably the one Chiefs fan in Cincy right?

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Dec 27, 2009 3:42 PM CST up reply actions  

WTF? please expand on this

Raiders Suck!!!

by pokerjoe on Dec 27, 2009 3:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Ha.

Better go post that on an inferior Chiefs site and maybe he will see it…

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by woodman212 on Dec 27, 2009 3:42 PM CST up reply actions  

LOL

As long as it was a Cinci fan its alright

by Aperture on Dec 27, 2009 3:42 PM CST up reply actions  

i received several e-mails

that LJ spit his Gatorade in the face of a Bengals Cheerleader after the game

by KCCheeze on Dec 27, 2009 3:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Hopefully,

this will be the spark that brings the Chiefs to kick some major butt in Denver next week.

by TXChiefan on Dec 27, 2009 3:49 PM CST reply actions  

positives

I love what is considered to be positives regarding the Chiefs. It’s like when the slow kid does something good it is magnified. What is considered to be simple fundamentals on good teams sticks out among Chiefs marginal plays. The Bengals played down to the Chiefs. Dorsey and Tyson Jackson are awful and look to be monumental busts. Only Detroit is for sure worse than the Chiefs. I don’t know if the Chiefs could beat St. Louis since Jackson would run for 300 yards. 75% of the current roster has to go.

by Newbaum Turk on Dec 27, 2009 3:57 PM CST reply actions  

gotta look for positives

when you are 9-38! over the past 3 seasons

Positive Yards! I've been sayin it for years.

by Russdabus on Dec 27, 2009 4:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Sorry buddy

But you are rooting for a slow kid NFL team. If you don’t like it and can’t find the positives then go find a new team

by The Other Patrick Allen on Dec 27, 2009 4:06 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I see the Bengals every week

This was not their best game, but pretty consistent with how they have been playing the last 5 weeks or so… aside from the San Diego game last week. Their passing attach has been ‘sleepy’ and their defense a little soft against the run. Cincy has for several years been a team that makes mistakes and dumb plays but in good years has enough talent to overcome.

by Wheatboy74 on Dec 27, 2009 4:19 PM CST up reply actions  

talk to the jets

about Vernon Gholston. And better yet, look at cnnsi’s 2009 draft do over. There are very few players that were actually good picks.

You should really stop talking about busts on the D Line. It takes years for those players to adapt to the NFL game. Their job is different than what it was in college. They don’t blow through the line, and make big sacks. Their job is to take up blockers, and stuff the run.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/don_banks/12/15/redraft/index.html?eref=sihp

by kc571 on Dec 27, 2009 4:31 PM CST up reply actions  

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