Matt Cassel Talks About His Responsibility to Chiefs Fans
by Joel Thorman on Dec 24, 2009 10:11 AM CST
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PrintKansas City Chiefs QB Matt Cassel is certainly under a lot of pressure from not only the team but the community of Kansas City as well. This is definitely a football town and with everyone desperately wanting a winner, they know that rests on the shoulders of Matt Cassel.
Cassel was asked yesterday what sort of obligation he has to the community in his role as the starting quarterback.
"Part of my job is to win ballgames," he said. "Being a quarterback of any NFL team, that’s the primary goal."
He said all that other stuff will usually work itself out once the team starts to win. I happen to agree with him. If you're winning, everyone loves you. If you're losing, you can't do anything right - on or off the field.
Whether it's wins or losses, Cassel recognizes that he does have a responsibility to the community but that shouldn't be a primary focus during the season.
"My focus during the season is this team, being here at the facility, doing whatever I can to help this football team win on the field. During the off-season when you have time to do it, go out in the community, meet people, to give back, to do community service. I think that’s all part of being the quarterback of a team."
Cassel has demonstrated in his short time here that he's willing to go out into the community (even during the season), which I think is a nice sign. No, it's not vital to winning football games, which is the ultimate goal, but it's nice.
"Like I said before," he continued, "if you win ballgames, a lot of that takes care of itself. There’s no doubt we have a responsibility to our fan base but I think the reason why they come to the games is to watch a good product out on the field and to watch us win."
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I love the attitude he has.
I just wish he was more accurate and made better decisions. I hate seeing him take a sack when he should throw it away. And I hate seeing him throw to LANCE FREAKING LONG instead of DBowe or Chambers….
But he seems to be making some better decisions… I mean, even if it’s O’Connell, he was WIDE FREAKING OPEN! You can’t fault the QB for finding a wide open TE and throwing it at him…. God damn Cottam with his broken back… UGH.
lance long has dropped no more passes then bowe has
and i don’t think anyone else on the team gets as many looks as chambers does
UCrawford will eventually calm down and realize that Haley isn't a bad coach.
Will embrace the Fire Haley Bandwagon if we lose to the raiders by more then a TD...
..But we aren't going to lose.
LJ will not land in Pittsburgh
The Chiefs will not be the number one pick in this years draft
The Chiefs first pick of the draft will NOT be a OL
Thinks UCrawford just needs a hug... offer is there when you are ready UC :p
Dude has it
Im telling you guys that Cassel is going to be a very good QB in this league. I would find it hard to say that there is a tougher QB than this guy. He gets sacked constantly and he continues to get back up every single time.(knock on wood). He never complains, he has a great attitude and he has shown the ability to elevate his game when they need him to. He isnt the most talented with his accuracy and sometimes struggles with the deep ball but I really believe this is a guy who can be a super bowl QB.
If we make it to a Super Bowl, he may finish his career with the Chiefs.
I just want us all to start winning again. It’ll take off a lot of heat.
Can you imagine if Cutler was here? How many INT’s would he throw with this team! Then running around going “F—- Kansas City” “I hate it here” “My team is terrible” etc. etc.
"Speed...(long pause)....Kills." -- Lenny Dawson (on JC)
I agree
The guy has everything it takes to be a superbowl qb. Everyone says that he struggles with throwing the deep ball and that may be true but tell me how many qbs have become great qbs simply because they can throw the deep ball, none.
by badassz1987 on Dec 24, 2009 10:55 AM CST up reply actions
Kurt Warner
But I’m on the Cassel band-wagon!
"The way this works is you string together some good games, some good practices and you get momentum and you gain confidence," linebacker Mike Vrabel said. "It can be a real positive for your team. It builds on itself."
Joe Montana wasn't much of a deep ball passer.
Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.
by Rev. Slappy on Dec 24, 2009 11:55 AM CST up reply actions
I have to agree with you...
…I think Cassel is the QB for our future. Now if we can just get a line to block him and some Recievers & Tight Ends to Hold onto the ball, we’d be a little bit better. I don’t blame Cassel. He has made mistakes yes, but on some of the interception mistakes, how many of those were because he was rushed to get the ball out because the line could not hold or block a man???
I guess you forgot..
he was hurt in preseason, missed game 4, and missed the first game of the season, then wore a brace for the first four games he started….just sayin
the original poster said he is really tough...
im saying he was hurt before the season even started…
Well he came back early from the injury...
That’s kinda tough…
Don't forget to be an AP-vangelist...Tell A Friend...
I think
He has a responsibility to not suck
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
Agreed Bones! :) ... along with the other 52 players.
Like him or not, don’t you respect he’s been quiet throughout this ordeal?
"Speed...(long pause)....Kills." -- Lenny Dawson (on JC)
I would like to see the Cassel bashers take the physical beating Matt has this year.
It’s easy to sit on the couch and bitch, but there’s not doubt Cassel is tough as hell. Mentally I hope he can endure all the shit he’s had to deal with this year.
Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.
by Rev. Slappy on Dec 24, 2009 11:57 AM CST up reply actions
Would be more than happy to
for 1/4 of his contract. No one said he isn’t tough, he just isnt a good QB. Would rather have a tough guy that is a QB like the Steelers have. They have a guy who takes even more of a pounding and can actually throw an accurate pass.
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Dec 24, 2009 12:01 PM CST up reply actions
He
has a hell of a lot better receivers to throw to and they actually catch the ball
by badassz1987 on Dec 24, 2009 12:04 PM CST up reply actions
Of course
He has shown tremendous leadership ability. I have said that time and time again. However, he is an inaccurate passer on deep balls. Look back at the tape against the Chiefs last year. The big bomb to Moss was seriously underthrown and was only a big play because the Chiefs went all out against the run. That is Matt on any pass over 10 yards, it is a crap shoot. There are several passes considered drops just because they drop a lot of balls. If the Chiefs did not have drop problems the bad passes would not be called drops. If he gets better in the pocket, he will be serviceable if the Chiefs can give him 2 pro bowl WRs, we might have an offense that can be a playoff team. I would prefer to have a guy at QB that makes the WRs better but that isnt what we have.
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Dec 24, 2009 11:59 AM CST up reply actions
what are you talking about
if the ball hits the receiver in the hands it’s a drop regardless of how many times drops happen during the season. all the drops that have happened are drops plain and simple. so the ball is a little under or over thrown. it’s the receivers job to notice that and get to the ball. all the QBs job is to get the ball to the receiver, after that it’s all on the receiver.
UCrawford will eventually calm down and realize that Haley isn't a bad coach.
Will embrace the Fire Haley Bandwagon if we lose to the raiders by more then a TD...
..But we aren't going to lose.
LJ will not land in Pittsburgh
The Chiefs will not be the number one pick in this years draft
The Chiefs first pick of the draft will NOT be a OL
Thinks UCrawford just needs a hug... offer is there when you are ready UC :p
by Leaf on Dec 24, 2009 6:03 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
For everyone
that thinks that Cassel sucks can you please explain to me what more do you want the guy to do. The entire year he has gotten NO help from anyone, our receivers couldnt catch a cold and 2.7 running the ball was a joke. Now look at the last couple of weeks he has gotten help from Charles and what do you know he has looked better, funny how that happens, now just imagine if we had receivers that could actually catch.
by badassz1987 on Dec 24, 2009 11:03 AM CST up reply actions
It used to bother me but doesn't anymore.
Some football fans look to the QB as a team leader, a guy who can put an entire team on their back and lead them to the promised land. I’m not about to play psychologist with people who disagree with me, but I’ve heard some say he’s not an elite QB like Manning, or Brees, or Brady (which I agree with totally) and that’s why they don’t like him. They’re upset because we don’t have a top 5 QB (But tend to ignore we don’t have the players to make even a top5 QB look good).
I think if we get enough tools and a balanced team(a top 12 Defense for the first time in I can’t even remember might be nice), he has enough talent to drive us to a Super Bowl. Lots of inferior QBs managed to get their teams to SB’s (i.e. Rex Grossman). Lots of them had very good defenses. I don’t think thats a coincidence. If we can manage the score a bit better, Cassel could easily keep us in games. But no, I can’t imagine someone expecting Cassel and this offense to score 40 points a game to keep up with the scoreboard-breaking numbers of our opponents.
"Speed...(long pause)....Kills." -- Lenny Dawson (on JC)
Yeah...
Since Grossman won that Superbowl…Gee forgot that one…Also the Chiefs defense is far far far away from being as good as that Bears D was.
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Dec 24, 2009 12:05 PM CST up reply actions
cassel is far superior to grossman
UCrawford will eventually calm down and realize that Haley isn't a bad coach.
Will embrace the Fire Haley Bandwagon if we lose to the raiders by more then a TD...
..But we aren't going to lose.
LJ will not land in Pittsburgh
The Chiefs will not be the number one pick in this years draft
The Chiefs first pick of the draft will NOT be a OL
Thinks UCrawford just needs a hug... offer is there when you are ready UC :p
Jamaal Charles could be the guy that makes it easier for #7
Every good QB needs the benefit of a good run game. Jamaal Charles will be our “guy”. It sure wouldn’t hurt if our QB played great too though.
I have seen a LOT of improvement in his game the last couple weeks. Drops have cost us both of those games IMO.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Dec 24, 2009 12:21 PM CST up reply actions
Hmmm Lets check the numbers
Buffalo game……
Charles …….143 yards
Cassel…… 0 TDs 4 INTs 35.4 QB rating
Look better to you? Hell no from where I am sitting.
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Dec 24, 2009 12:04 PM CST up reply actions
2 of those the receivers dont catch the ball and tip it right to the defender and 1 was a hail mary pass at the end of the game
by badassz1987 on Dec 24, 2009 12:07 PM CST up reply actions
Sooooo
A 2 INT 0 TD game is good?
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Dec 24, 2009 12:08 PM CST up reply actions
4-2-1 = 1 int game and he cant have a td if the receivers dont catch the ball
by badassz1987 on Dec 24, 2009 12:11 PM CST up reply actions
Do you know what you are talking about?
Go to the play by play, the highlights are there.
(2:20) (Shotgun) 7-M.Cassel pass deep middle intended for 11-C.Chambers INTERCEPTED by 31-J.Byrd at BUF 5. 31-J.Byrd to BUF 23 for 18 yards.
Ball poorly passed, tipped by the defense.
(12:35) 7-M.Cassel pass deep right intended for 83-M.Bradley INTERCEPTED by 24-T.McGee at KC 27. 24-T.McGee to KC 24 for 3 yards (25-J.Charles).
Terrible pass not tipped.
The pick at the end of the game was terrible too.
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Dec 24, 2009 12:19 PM CST up reply actions
wow you are the most negative person ive ever seen.
by jcharles the future on Dec 24, 2009 12:50 PM CST up reply actions
There isnt a lot to be positive about on this team
Charles is a positive, the QB isnt.
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Dec 24, 2009 1:02 PM CST up reply actions
It was two tips, one hail mary....
1 INT and was made up for by the game winner he threw to Chambers….oh wait, Chambers dropped that pass…the one which would have won the game despite the earlier picks…
Quit putting an agenda before analysis…
Don't forget to be an AP-vangelist...Tell A Friend...
when your receivers can't catch it isn't bad
UCrawford will eventually calm down and realize that Haley isn't a bad coach.
Will embrace the Fire Haley Bandwagon if we lose to the raiders by more then a TD...
..But we aren't going to lose.
LJ will not land in Pittsburgh
The Chiefs will not be the number one pick in this years draft
The Chiefs first pick of the draft will NOT be a OL
Thinks UCrawford just needs a hug... offer is there when you are ready UC :p
He can only "Not Suck" if..
…he has a good cast around him. He’s not gonna have time to get the ball off if the line can’t block. He’s not gonna complete his passes if the recievers can’t catch the ball!
Before we hang him, we should remember TrINT Green
Green’s first season with the Chiefs was horrendous. KC didn’t know what they had in Holmes either. There are a lot of parallels between this team and the 01 Chiefs.
I can dream can’t I?
10/19/09: The Chiefs are on their way to an 11-5 season...I think....
10/26/09: Okay, so it'll be 10-6, I can live with that...
11/9/09: So KC spots the league 7 games. 9-7 is respectable.
11/30/09: I'll consider 8-8 a success and move on
12/7/09: 7-9? Anybody?
12/14/09: 6-10 is a definite improvement over last year
12/21/09: All I want for Christmas is 5-11
Adhere to Bill Parcells 11 QB commandments.
Those just came up again this morning on the Mike & Mike show regarding Bret Favre.
by BCRavenJHawkfan on Dec 24, 2009 11:06 AM CST reply actions
"Part of my job is to win ballgames"
‘Part’???? That’s his ONLY responsibility!!!!! If you want to be a league-leading QB, you have to be a playmaker and find ways to win games, period! No excuses, no blaming the O-line or the receivers…..the difference between an average QB and an exceptional QB is the ability to improvise when the play gets blown apart and still find ways to consistently move the chains. Favre, Manning, Brees, and Brady can do it….regardless of the pressure being faced with.
None
of those qbs ever have pressure in their face and certainly no where near what Cassel has had this year and besides everytime he has made a good play the fricken receivers just drop the ball anyways. Now Im not saying that he is perfect but name me a qb that is. And I agree with jk show me anything where he has blamed anyone else on the team for anything.
by badassz1987 on Dec 24, 2009 11:20 AM CST up reply actions
No Pressure?
Take a look at the current stats. The top 5 QB’s all have ratings exceeding 100+, Cassel is ranked 23rd with a rating of 71.1 and tied with Cutler. Of those top 5 QB’s, Roethlisberger and Rodgers have been under more pressure, and between the two of them have accumulated 10 more sacks than Cassel (Roethlisberger 43 sacks and Rodgers 49 sacks compared to Cassel’s 41 sacks) yet they still manage to find a way to make it happen and maintain top 5 numbers. Fact is that the only QB’s that Cassel ranked higher than are first year rookies (most of whom have been benched many times throughout the season) or veterans back-up’s that have had only limited playtime.
Pass happy teams will usually accrue more sacks.
Both of those teams have been pretty pass happy this year.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Dec 24, 2009 12:27 PM CST up reply actions
AND...
Neither have a very good O-line either.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Dec 24, 2009 12:30 PM CST up reply actions
My point exactly!! And, their QB’s still find ways to put points on the board and put their teams into playoff contention.
Green Bay has anyway.
Isn’t Pittsburgh out of the hunt?
by Chiefsfan1970 on Dec 24, 2009 12:39 PM CST up reply actions
Lets see.
Heinz Ward
Mike Wallace
Rashard Mendenhall
Greg Jennings
Jarmichael Finley
Donald Driver
Ryan Grant
Easier to “make things happen” when you have better players.
"Speed...(long pause)....Kills." -- Lenny Dawson (on JC)
Pittsburgh can still make it and knock Denver out if they beat Baltimore and Miami to wrap it up.
Yeah….and I guess when you compare the WR’s, TE’s and RB’s of the other teams, KC’s just don’t compare.
Receivers
PIT Mike Wallace AVG 17.9 TDS 5
KC Chris Chambers AVG 16.6 TDS 5
GB Greg Jennings AVG 16.0 TDS 4
GB Donald Driver AVG 15.8 TDS 6
KC Dwayne Bowe AVG 14.1 TDS 4
PIT Heinz Ward AVG 12.9 TDS 6
Running Backs
KC Jamaal Charles AVG 5.4 TDS 5
PIT Rashard Mendenhall AVG 4.8 TDS 6
GB Ryan Grant AVG 4.3 TDS 8
Tight Ends
KC Brad Cottam AVG 13.3 TDS 0
GB Jarmichael Finley AVG 11.7 TDS 4
too bad your stats don't show how many drops those guys have
UCrawford will eventually calm down and realize that Haley isn't a bad coach.
Will embrace the Fire Haley Bandwagon if we lose to the raiders by more then a TD...
..But we aren't going to lose.
LJ will not land in Pittsburgh
The Chiefs will not be the number one pick in this years draft
The Chiefs first pick of the draft will NOT be a OL
Thinks UCrawford just needs a hug... offer is there when you are ready UC :p
1.) Qb rankings are a joke
2.) if his receivers actually caught a ball once in awhile his numbers would jump.
and 3.) not 1 of those top 5 QBs are learning a new system. not a fair comparison.
UCrawford will eventually calm down and realize that Haley isn't a bad coach.
Will embrace the Fire Haley Bandwagon if we lose to the raiders by more then a TD...
..But we aren't going to lose.
LJ will not land in Pittsburgh
The Chiefs will not be the number one pick in this years draft
The Chiefs first pick of the draft will NOT be a OL
Thinks UCrawford just needs a hug... offer is there when you are ready UC :p
YES, PART of his job ist to win games.
His part is doing a good job, making the right reads, making accurate passes when he can. He can’t win it all by himself! This isn’t a 1 man team there Rokbrnc!!!
I think you are taking that out of context...
He was saying that being the QB of the Chiefs is only part of his job. Community work is the other part. It’s always been like that in KC.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Dec 24, 2009 12:12 PM CST up reply actions
Please, find me a quote where he blamed someone else. And since when was he the entire team? He is only partially responsible for the outcome. He can't do anything for the minutes the defense is on the field giving up 500 yards of offense and 40+ points.
"Speed...(long pause)....Kills." -- Lenny Dawson (on JC)
Exactly
how many games would we have won this year if we had a halfway decent defense. Maybe we missed something maybe it was in Cassels contract that he was supposed to play defense also
by badassz1987 on Dec 24, 2009 11:24 AM CST up reply actions
Another thing
I can think of more than a few occasions when Cassel was a really bad spot with the offense, either they had penalties or whatever. and he made a 3rd and long or 4th and long pass completion. They were big time plays.
examples:
Against Dallas on that long drive to tie it up and send in to overtime. The fourth and long touchdown pass to D Bowe. If we miss that the game is over.
Agains Pittsburgh, I believe it was 3rd and 17, Cassel great throw to Lance Long.
Last week: Late on that last drive we had to tie it up he made a really nice pass to (former Chief) Bradley for a touch on 4th down.
The guy has shown that when they need it he can make plays.
He has a ways to go but he has shown flashes in my book.
Its funny
how people seem to forget about these good plays that he has made. To even expand on that late drive last week he made a nice throw on third down that should have been a td but what happened receiver dropped the ball and what does Cassel do he comes right back on fourth down and makes another nice throw for a td
Those good plays
are what he is paid to do. Funny how all these people can over look 10 bad plays to find one good one.
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Dec 24, 2009 12:08 PM CST up reply actions
He only really had one bad play against Cleveland...It WAS really bad though.
And their DB dropped the easy pick.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Dec 24, 2009 12:15 PM CST up reply actions
Oh yeah.....
He played OK against the browns, still had some bad looking passes. I am going to watch the shortcuts shortly, I really need to since I was at the game and it is really hard to know exactly what was good and bad live.
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Dec 24, 2009 12:22 PM CST up reply actions
He has looked different to me...
Seems to be getting the ball out much quicker for the most part. Obviously, the receivers have been working on their routes…Too bad they still can’t catch :-)
by Chiefsfan1970 on Dec 24, 2009 12:24 PM CST up reply actions
Big time underthrow to Chambers early in the game
Chris did a nice job of coming back to the ball. At 4:35 first quarter. Missed a TD due to bad pass
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Dec 24, 2009 12:34 PM CST up reply actions
Overthrew Charles 2 plays latter
Missed a first down maybe a TD
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Dec 24, 2009 12:35 PM CST up reply actions
Nice pass to Bowe dropped in the endzone
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Dec 24, 2009 12:36 PM CST up reply actions
i guess 70% accuracy if your receivers caught their balls
is only ok now. wow man you are just looking for someone to hate.
UCrawford will eventually calm down and realize that Haley isn't a bad coach.
Will embrace the Fire Haley Bandwagon if we lose to the raiders by more then a TD...
..But we aren't going to lose.
LJ will not land in Pittsburgh
The Chiefs will not be the number one pick in this years draft
The Chiefs first pick of the draft will NOT be a OL
Thinks UCrawford just needs a hug... offer is there when you are ready UC :p
Even if the WRs caught every one of the 47 "drops"
accuracy would only be 65% not 70%. I cannot call you a liar, but no one has told me I can not say that you make shit up.
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Dec 25, 2009 2:49 PM CST up reply actions
funny how you miss 10 good ones to find one bad one
UCrawford will eventually calm down and realize that Haley isn't a bad coach.
Will embrace the Fire Haley Bandwagon if we lose to the raiders by more then a TD...
..But we aren't going to lose.
LJ will not land in Pittsburgh
The Chiefs will not be the number one pick in this years draft
The Chiefs first pick of the draft will NOT be a OL
Thinks UCrawford just needs a hug... offer is there when you are ready UC :p
So...
Start winning Matt!
No one question you as a person and a role model in the community. But I am not looking for Archie Manning here.
Predictions as of 06.24.2009.
Larry Johnson will be a top 3 fantasy pick once again in 2010 (after a monster season in 2009.)
Dwayne Bowe will be a 2009 Pro Bowl selection.
Brandon Flowers will have at least 6 INTs in 2009 season.
Todd Haley will have a sideline shouting match caught on TV yelling at one of his asst. coaches.
by 58 was my friend on Dec 24, 2009 11:58 AM CST reply actions
I am not worried....yet
But the fumblin #$@T has got to go… Next year, i believe he will have more confidence with a strong team around him, and you know the saying that winning cures all.
Great Guy
My son played high school fb with the fullbak from USC, who in turn played with Carson, leinart and Matt Cassel. He said Cassel is stud. Practiced hard, very smart and very very tough.. Great leader!! He will be our QB for many years. He is just gonna get better!! He does need some help at the line, so he doesn’t have to run for his life!!
by BBell78 on Dec 24, 2009 12:08 PM CST via mobile reply actions
There is a lot of great guys in this world
That couldnt play a lick of football.
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Dec 24, 2009 12:12 PM CST up reply actions
Sorry Bones, but have you ever played a "Lick of Football" ????
Chill dude !!!! Quit bashing every post and get a life !
Being a person Character
Can certainly help to be face of team. Cassell went to USC, not an easy school. Which means he is pretty smart. Good work ethic, played with Carson Palmer, Matt Leinart and was second to Tom Brady. Include that with being tough. He will be stud!
by BBell78 on Dec 24, 2009 6:53 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Big overthrow to Bowe following the Cribbs TD
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
Dont know who you are talking about
But a couple nice passes down to Chambers on the next drive
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Dec 24, 2009 12:40 PM CST up reply actions
He should look at Cassels stats in the Cleveland game. Funny he only chose Buffalo to make his point.
And he’s continuing to ignore our Defense. Buffalo scored 40+. He expects our offense to be able to answer?
"Speed...(long pause)....Kills." -- Lenny Dawson (on JC)
This is the Browns game I am talking about
This is a thread on Cassel, why would I talk about the Defense? Unless I wanted to make excuses for Cassel?
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Dec 24, 2009 12:42 PM CST up reply actions
Also It isnt just about stats
It is about what is being done to put the team in position to win games. No reason we couldn’t have put up 50 on the browns. We are already missing points on bad passes as well as drops but again this thread is about Matt.
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Dec 24, 2009 12:44 PM CST up reply actions
If you look at this team with blinders and only look at Matt Cassel as the problem.
Or look at small, hand-picked samples to support your argument, You’re doing yourself a great disservice. No one is making excuses either. It’s not like anything anyone has said is an outright lie.
Buffalo’s terrible QB and average RB’s put up over 500 yards of offense. How you choose to ignore that is beyond anyones comprehension.
"Speed...(long pause)....Kills." -- Lenny Dawson (on JC)
Buffalo scored 16 points
I never once said Cassel is the only problem. He is a problem but not the only problem or even the biggest problem. He is the biggest problem going forward because he is the only problem that cannot be solved with a personnel move. We are stuck with him. Shitty WR play, no problem we will have new ones next year. Shitty QB play? Fuck we are stuck with that
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Dec 24, 2009 12:50 PM CST up reply actions
Hey man, you're entitled to your opinions. Time will tell. And I'll be the first to admit that I'm wrong if he tanks.
"Speed...(long pause)....Kills." -- Lenny Dawson (on JC)
I can think of about 8 reasons we have no business scoring 50 on anyone
1) Rudy Niswanger
2) Lenard Pope
3) Andy Alleman
4)Ryan O’Callahan
5)Bobby Wade
6)Lance Long
7)Mark Bradley (at the time)
8)Mike Cox
Cassel single handly lost us the Buffalo game
That is my point with why I went with the Buffalo game. Some have said that Cassel is better with Charles and if that is so, than why has he had 2 of the worst games in his career with Charles in the back field?
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Dec 24, 2009 12:45 PM CST up reply actions
Least yea forget the Chamber's drop at the 3 yard line......
plus Lance Long’s drop in the end zone….etc….drops….etc…drops….etc…..drops….etc.
funny how you put 3 sets of drops in there
Since Cassel had 4 picks in that one
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Dec 24, 2009 12:52 PM CST up reply actions
Try 2 picks that should have been caught.......
1 bad decision and 1 at the end of the game that didn’t matter. 1 pick should have been Matt’s stat for the game
Sorry already posted earlier
He had 1 pick that was a bad pass and that bounced off a defender. He had another pick that was a bad pass and bounced off nobody. The play by play on NFL.com shows the highlights of those 2. And the one at the end of the game mattered since we only lost by less than a TD
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Dec 24, 2009 12:58 PM CST up reply actions
Sorry, the defense lost the Buffalo game !
Sure Chambers had a hand in it. But Bobby Wade had some critical drops to…..alah Bobby wade is inactive against the Browns !
not saying either way is right
but putting a loss on chambers for 1 drop is wrong. There are a million things that lost that game. A few less INT’s and we wouldn’t have needed that catch etc..etc…
in no way can you put that loss on chambers…there were many people that missed plays they should have made…his was just the last one
Becuase
Its like youve made up your mind already that Cassel sucks and its totally unfair to judge him that much.
He can get better
and I hope he does. Right now he has shown nothing beyond backup QB material.
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Dec 24, 2009 12:55 PM CST up reply actions
When have I brought Charles down??
One positive on the offense going forward to next year. I only hope he has solved his fumbling problems.
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Dec 24, 2009 1:05 PM CST up reply actions
I wouldn't take his posts seriously if I were you
This is the same guy who tried to argue I was judging 2.7 too harshly just before they released him (I was one of LJs biggest supporters for a very ling time). He has an odd mancrush on him or something.
Anyway, it’s apparent some players get zero time to get better/develop/change (Cassel in this case), but guys like 2.7 deserve chance after chance despite proving beyond any doubt they are worthless. In other words, bones is right and you are wrong, because he has no opinions, only facts. Aka he likes to argue.
In wondrous beauty, once again, shall the golden tables stand mid the grass, which the gods had owned in the days of old.
by Chiefs_Ragnarok on Dec 24, 2009 1:19 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
said it before, will say it again
My Opinion is that with a good OL, some targets and a QB Coach/OC..Matt Cassel will be a very effective starting QB for the Kansas City Chiefs…Rich Gannon will prove to be 100 percent correct about timing, and some will even look at eli manning’s early years, or struggles a few years back, that were helped by his team being towards the tops in drops.
He is a leader, and when wins come, so will the matt cassel praise…he has that clutch gene, this cannot be denied, hes a 4th quarter guy, and I refuse to even look at his numbers because they are misleading with his INT’s being mostly tip picks, and his offense slowed by…drops…that lower his percentage of completed passes.
Cassel is our guy, I think its time we focus on other positions as this one will NOT change in the near future unless he seriously struggles NEXT season.
I think some people just had unreal expectations for this year.
If anyone actually thought that Cassel was going to come in here and lead us to an 11-5 season this year then you have unreal expectations. How about we get some more talent in here and see what happens. I believe we have our qb and rb positions filled so lets look at the other positions then see what happens. Peyton Manning had like 28 pics his 1st year imagine if the Colts said f him hes going to suck hes nothing but a backup.
Johnnie Morton: The Man. The Myth. The Legend.
by craig in calgary on Dec 24, 2009 1:35 PM CST reply actions 4 recs
ONE THING TO LOOK AT
Matt Cassel is only in his first year as our Q B . Did Elway look good for Denver when he first started NO. Bones you was in the Military could you win the war by yourself NO. you had a great bunch of guys to have your back. you had trust in them. Matt Cassel cant trust the guys around him because they are not showing him any support.
by Charles # 1 chiefs fan on Dec 24, 2009 2:17 PM CST reply actions
Crossbar
I am not a Cassell fan but I just wanted to say I certainly don’t blame him for hitting the crossbar on a hail mary. But hey, just think if he could hit the crossbar on purpose and the receivers were expecting it———nearly automatic touchdown!
except you shouldn't need to throw a hail mary from the 30 yd line
now if he was on the 50 yeah, but on the 30? I am not sure if Haley called for him to do that or if he was just throwing it up, but either way it was a bad play
so all you Cassel haters
who the hell should be are qb then, and if you say fucking Brodie Croyle Im going to scream. He has had more then enough chances and he proves he sucks.
All I know
Is that Matt Cassel has experienced winning in New England and losing in Kansas City. All within the space of a year. I can’t imagine the change he’s experienced in such a short time. Through it all he’s been class personified. Never throws his teammates or coaches under the bus, always presents a positive point of view. Is he the second coming of Montana/Elway/Dawson/insert Hall of Famer here? Who knows? What I do know is that Cassel is one tough and determined son-of-a-gun. I’ll always place my bets on a guy who knows the highs and lows and keeps coming back.
Exactly
This is his first taste of losing. In New England they won when he started and the whole time he was on the bench. At USC he didn’t play much but they were always dominant.
I haven’t checked the stats but I would imagine he was pretty dominant and used to winning in High School, otherwise, US F’N C doesn’t recruit you!
"I’d go to battle with him every day of the week." Todd Haley on Matt Cassel
This statement is why I am on the Cassel train, drinkin the Kool-Aid!
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