How to create a Mock Draft or Stagdsp made me do it

actually, wasn't it me that "made you do it" ?

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers

by stagdsp on Dec 23, 2009 8:13 PM CST reply actions

I will fix

We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09. Almost there :)
And Succop will be the Key in two of them. Skins & Raiders! Pittsburgh Sweet!
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram

by Steve_Chiefs on Dec 23, 2009 8:14 PM CST up reply actions

Haha.......give Stags that credit man!

by Hail2DaChiefs on Dec 23, 2009 8:16 PM CST up reply actions

Done

I know he is going to kick my Ass know :)

We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09. Almost there :)
And Succop will be the Key in two of them. Skins & Raiders! Pittsburgh Sweet!
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram

by Steve_Chiefs on Dec 23, 2009 8:17 PM CST up reply actions

actually, I asked that you email me the info instead of posting it

:)

but, that’s ok too, buddy

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers

by stagdsp on Dec 23, 2009 8:22 PM CST up reply actions

your effort is "above and beyond"

nice work!

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers

by stagdsp on Dec 23, 2009 8:23 PM CST up reply actions

Not done

but I think (I can’t spell very well) it is very difficult and maybe someone else would add if maybe they know how. I didn’t until I tried and yet I haven’t tried the DD interface yet either. got my log-in setup needed data.

We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09. Almost there :)
And Succop will be the Key in two of them. Skins & Raiders! Pittsburgh Sweet!
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram

by Steve_Chiefs on Dec 23, 2009 8:28 PM CST up reply actions

How do you resize an image :(

seems like a Data type screwup if you ask me :)

We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09. Almost there :)
And Succop will be the Key in two of them. Skins & Raiders! Pittsburgh Sweet!
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram

by Steve_Chiefs on Dec 23, 2009 8:30 PM CST up reply actions

img width = value src="http

you enter a number in the “value” spot… Like 300 or 400…

You really should get professional help. Your obsession with ND football is not healthy. ---Dr. lookingdeadred

by averagegatsby on Dec 24, 2009 1:36 AM CST up reply actions

that's cool

you may find that DD is the easier way… they already have the teams in order, and you can start from their template…

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers

by stagdsp on Dec 23, 2009 8:33 PM CST up reply actions

I have actually done 3 of them already but somehow have LOST THEM!!!!!

I wrote them out by hand and cannot find my notes. All 32 teams and what I feel their weaknesses are or what their needs are. That was the least fun part of it. The rest is not to difficult go position by position and rank your top ten in eatch some positions might have less than that and some will have more that you think will be drafted. Get your rankings done and then start plugging them in where you see the best fit.
Took me about 12 hrs the first time to get through the first two steps and NOW I lost my notes this sucks. Can you E-Mail me your list of team needs I am sure they are not much diff than yours. D-Smith529@yahoo.com

by kcchiefstd on Dec 24, 2009 12:02 PM CST up reply actions

As I dont want to put 2 cents in without proper steps takin to give simi accurate predictions.

by kcchiefstd on Dec 24, 2009 12:03 PM CST up reply actions

I can give my top 10 picks though as teams in same place.

1 St Louis – Clausen QB
2 DET – Suh DT
3 TB – McCoy DT
4 Clev – Bryant WR
5 KC – Berry
6 Wash – Okung OT
7 Buff – Campbell OT
8 Seatle – Spiller RB
9 Den – Cody NT
10 Oak – McCoy QB

by kcchiefstd on Dec 24, 2009 12:17 PM CST up reply actions

not bad...

Cleveland is somewhat of a wildcard there… not sure if they will go WR or Berry or another defender

Also, i am not sure about Denver picking Cody… the fans on their SB site seemed content with the NT on their roster, and are calling for OL or WR

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers

by stagdsp on Dec 24, 2009 12:37 PM CST up reply actions

One thing we saw in the Cleveland game was WR deficit.

They don’t have a dominant receiver. Many of us, here, came away with inflated opinions of our DBs, as a result. Our guys won the up-for-grabs battles that numerous other WRs (even just in our division) will win. Bryant has questions, and would be a reach, but he DOES have measurables that the Cleveland corps lacks.

Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.

by hmills110 on Dec 24, 2009 6:33 PM CST up reply actions

Carlos Dunlap first overall?

Isn’t that the clown that couldn’t play in the SEC championship because he fell asleep drunk behind the wheel of a car the night before?

Johnnie Morton: The Man. The Myth. The Legend.

by craig in calgary on Dec 23, 2009 8:30 PM CST reply actions

yep... at a green light, no less

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers

by stagdsp on Dec 23, 2009 8:32 PM CST up reply actions

That's too big of a risk to take at 1st overall

Even if it was a solitary incident, thats too much money to give a guy like that.

Johnnie Morton: The Man. The Myth. The Legend.

by craig in calgary on Dec 23, 2009 8:34 PM CST up reply actions

Drafttek has St. Louis needing a DE topmost above QB.

plus QB was addressed in 2nd

We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09. Almost there :)
And Succop will be the Key in two of them. Skins & Raiders! Pittsburgh Sweet!
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram

by Steve_Chiefs on Dec 23, 2009 8:43 PM CST up reply actions

they do need DL for sure

but, how could they pass on Suh for Dunlap?

not being critical, just wondering…

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers

by stagdsp on Dec 23, 2009 8:46 PM CST up reply actions

Dunlap is 6'6

a true DE for sure, if he sorts things out.
St. Louis will probably go another way but they do get to negotiate pre draft.

We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09. Almost there :)
And Succop will be the Key in two of them. Skins & Raiders! Pittsburgh Sweet!
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram

by Steve_Chiefs on Dec 23, 2009 8:49 PM CST up reply actions

my thought exactly

Suh.

Air Cassel - approved for takeoff

by kabrink on Dec 23, 2009 9:51 PM CST up reply actions

Morgan out of GT or Wooten from Norhtwestern over Dunlap with his dumb move.

I think they go QB anyway get their guy.

by kcchiefstd on Dec 24, 2009 12:19 PM CST up reply actions

Your just mad at Tebow's teammate :)

We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09. Almost there :)
And Succop will be the Key in two of them. Skins & Raiders! Pittsburgh Sweet!
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram

by Steve_Chiefs on Dec 23, 2009 8:41 PM CST up reply actions

I AM

That ’Bama game ends ALOT differently with Dunlap in the game!
People point their fingers at Tebow, but it as the defence that lost them that game.
Plus Saban outcoached Meyer…they were better prepared and made better adjustments

Johnnie Morton: The Man. The Myth. The Legend.

by craig in calgary on Dec 23, 2009 8:56 PM CST up reply actions

I don't usually follow mock drafts

But this is how I’d go:

1) Best defensive player on the board
2a) Best O-lineman on the board
2b) Mardy Gilliard or Golden Tate

Johnnie Morton: The Man. The Myth. The Legend.

by craig in calgary on Dec 23, 2009 8:38 PM CST reply actions

That is why it was an interesting puzzle

every team has needs, sorta like Craig on Saturday night, what do they end up with based on opportunity, sorta like Craig on saturday night :)

We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09. Almost there :)
And Succop will be the Key in two of them. Skins & Raiders! Pittsburgh Sweet!
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram

by Steve_Chiefs on Dec 23, 2009 8:45 PM CST up reply actions

reasonable

you might have to switch 2a and 2b

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers

by stagdsp on Dec 23, 2009 8:46 PM CST up reply actions

We'll see how Atlanta finishes up

Plus if either Gilliard or Tate have an unreal combine, they wil probably shoot up into the 1st round.

Johnnie Morton: The Man. The Myth. The Legend.

by craig in calgary on Dec 23, 2009 8:57 PM CST up reply actions

I don't usually get too deep into mock drafts, either.

Just a nice place to pick up tidbits on the prospects with whom the writer of the mock has fallen in man-love. You can also pick up random facts and theories that way. But BUILDING ONE? C’mon.

I like your general considerations approach. But I started thinking the same thing as Steve, after reading his mock, and I wouldn’t have seen it, if I hadn’t seen Cody and Williams leave the board by mid-1st.

Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.

by hmills110 on Dec 24, 2009 1:48 AM CST up reply actions

Here

I have been over prospects counltess times I go.

Rd 1 Berry S
rd 2 Iupati OG
rd 2 Rolle S depends on who comes in with FA if no WR then Tate/Lafell/Williams/ or Gillyard here
rd 3 Walton OC
rd 4 ILB

by kcchiefstd on Dec 24, 2009 12:26 PM CST up reply actions

Wow, going SS and RB. What is your thought proccess on going RB with your 2A pick and not o-line there?

Merlinnj

by merlinnj on Dec 23, 2009 9:19 PM CST reply actions

I thought Berry was a FS

Pretty much needed a C,G, 3-4 NT, but also a Comp back for King Charles of the separated shoulder, maybe a WR.

Thought no RT, C at #36. No NT’s available, and plenty of WR’s available in FA or later. Safety covered, ILB later. Get another playmaker here at 2a, figured a GP RB since some would say that Charles is a Comp back.

After more thought, I think we go Williams NT in 1st, maybe Nate Allen S in 2a….

We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09. Almost there :)
And Succop will be the Key in two of them. Skins & Raiders! Pittsburgh Sweet!
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram

by Steve_Chiefs on Dec 23, 2009 9:28 PM CST up reply actions

I really like Dan Williams, but I suspect he will end up going mid-late in round 1. I would like to go very heavy in the trenches but the value board may dictate a different set of selections.

Merlinnj

by merlinnj on Dec 23, 2009 9:36 PM CST up reply actions

Seems that the Value might be in getting a NT period

Wherever, whenever, or however :) My board had Miami and San Diego and the Chiefs looking for a 3-4 DT (NT) with none available unless you grab a 200+ guy to fill the need.
Now that is reaching when you have to choose one of those True NT’s or a much better 4-3 DT prospect because you have no Choice. The selection process according to the team needs was excellent, in the 1st round. Have a need grab a good prospect, matched up well, then the 2nd round early okay. Mid 2nd and beyond the Players of need were not available. sorta toasts that BPA in PON theory.

We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09. Almost there :)
And Succop will be the Key in two of them. Skins & Raiders! Pittsburgh Sweet!
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram

by Steve_Chiefs on Dec 23, 2009 9:48 PM CST up reply actions

Getting a NT is going to be hard unless Williams is there for our 2A pick. After him, you are dropping to 3rd round talents or worse. Unless we can hit on the rare trade down in round one (and that’s very hard) we may be in a difficult position to grab him.

Merlinnj

by merlinnj on Dec 23, 2009 9:59 PM CST up reply actions

Unless we just do like last year and take him where we can.

of Course Pioli will be trying to pry a NT in early FA. Might mean all the difference.
I don’t even think it needs to be a Name guy, just better than what we got with Edwards stating. Edwards could stay as the backup would be a GREAT thing IMO

We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09. Almost there :)
And Succop will be the Key in two of them. Skins & Raiders! Pittsburgh Sweet!
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram

by Steve_Chiefs on Dec 23, 2009 10:03 PM CST up reply actions

I like Edwards as a backup. We will get a better sense of this when we seen the draft order and have the class set. However, I hope we don’t do another 7-9 spot reach for a player.

Merlinnj

by merlinnj on Dec 23, 2009 10:08 PM CST up reply actions

Yes.

I think a lot depends on where the “tiers” are in the talent. I’d rather reach the 7-9 slots for the PON if you know the drop-off will likely occur before your next go-round at that position. Ideally, you don’t have to make that reach-pick, and I kinda think Pioli’s aware of the fans’ feelings on this, as much as he wants to stick to his principles and not let the tail wag the team.

But as I said above, and many patient others have tried to drill into me, the Chiefs are wrong-footed for Cody or Williams in this draft. In addition, they’re in a strong position to bid on anybody-but-Haynesworth. Look for the one aggressive move by Pioli to be NT, with a late-1st or 2nd-day pick on a project player. I wouldn’t be too bothered by Edwards remaining as the #2, especially with the experience he’s had, plus a young NT-only pick waiting in the wings. Maybe revisit NT again in 2011 more aggressively in the draft

Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.

by hmills110 on Dec 24, 2009 2:30 AM CST up reply actions

FA NT, yeah.

The stars seem to be pointed in that direction. And Pioli was aggressive in pursuing ONE FA (and nabbed two in the deal) last year. He’s even willing to spend a 2nd-rounder for the privilege, so open up the viewing angle to include RFA. He won’t do this a LOT, if history’s any guide. Better to stockpile picks – something Carl wasn’t good at, always borrowing against the future, seeking instant gratification.

But definitely wrong-footed for real value at NT for that #5 pick, because of downside potential. But if he DID pull the trigger (and half of AP did the same… to the temple…) on NT with the #5 pick and the Chiefs D were the talk of the league in 3 years, because of their prototypical front 3, he’d be lauded as a genius with real courage, runnin’ plug-‘n’-play on the other two position groups, more or less at will.

Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.

by hmills110 on Dec 24, 2009 2:13 AM CST up reply actions

Steve

kudos for the effort. I’m just going to “criticize” yours because I don’t want to go to the effort to try my own!

But, kidding aside, I was surprised with your 2nd rd pick of RB. I don’t think they should, or will, do that. They will probably pick up a RB but later IMO.

Air Cassel - approved for takeoff

by kabrink on Dec 23, 2009 9:54 PM CST up reply actions

It seemed a Free choice

WR or RB
OL in 2b and either 3 or 4
ILB in 3 or 4
I will be suprised if we draft Berry and don’t go RB or WR in the 2a slot. we could go for a OLB but Hali and Vrable/Studebaker would seem to allow the chance at a another playmaker at pick 36.

We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09. Almost there :)
And Succop will be the Key in two of them. Skins & Raiders! Pittsburgh Sweet!
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram

by Steve_Chiefs on Dec 23, 2009 10:00 PM CST up reply actions

i think we go WR instead of RB

i would swap the 2a pick for Golden Tate,

also, I am pretty sure Jacksonville will pick Tebow

by KCCheeze on Dec 24, 2009 12:24 AM CST up reply actions

My question AP

Sitting with the Tony pick, if we grabbed a Center or Guard would you be totally pissed.
Made me think about it, and think again. Cause it will always go down as the TG pick we got *******.

We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09. Almost there :)
And Succop will be the Key in two of them. Skins & Raiders! Pittsburgh Sweet!
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram

by Steve_Chiefs on Dec 23, 2009 10:27 PM CST reply actions

I'd like to grab a lineman with our 2nd pick

…and then a skill player with the “Tony Pick”…

My example above was Gilliard or Tate which is a sexier pick than a Guard or Centre (Center to Americans)

Johnnie Morton: The Man. The Myth. The Legend.

by craig in calgary on Dec 23, 2009 10:59 PM CST up reply actions

I thought that too

yet a line grunt will be a surer bet and lasts longer too.
WE/I don’t want a bust with the TG legacy pick.
We have Albert/Charles with the JA pick, I feel much better if I think of it that way.

We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09. Almost there :)
And Succop will be the Key in two of them. Skins & Raiders! Pittsburgh Sweet!
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram

by Steve_Chiefs on Dec 23, 2009 11:08 PM CST up reply actions

Wouldn't be pissed if it were C.

But I’d be pissed if it were a G.

As for where the 2b pick came from, worrying about TG is like saving your change from Safeway in a different coffee can than your change from City Market. It all spends the same.

Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.

by hmills110 on Dec 24, 2009 2:40 AM CST up reply actions

just throwing this out there

but what do you think we can get if we trade Waters? a 2nd?

if that happens we take a Tacke in the 1st and move Albert to guard, and maybe pick a Center with one of our seconds. Not saying this will or should happen, but its a thought

by KCCheeze on Dec 24, 2009 12:27 AM CST reply actions

5th at best for waters

More likely to get a third trading Williams and one of the 5th rd picks.
then we could go something like.
1 Berry S
2 Iupati OG I see Tate as a first rounder.
2 Wilson CB/KR/PR
3 Walton OC
3 Rolle at S if available or OLB
4 Johnson ILB
5 Brown RB
5 Troup NT LB or WR

by kcchiefstd on Dec 24, 2009 12:39 PM CST up reply actions

do you really think we could get a second for Waters?

I would snatch that up and like the idea of a tackle where we pick moving albert to guard. (Think Roff shields.)

David Logue

by dklogue1 on Dec 24, 2009 12:41 AM CST reply actions

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh goodie, a MOCK DRAFT!

maybe we should post MORE of these!

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!

by upamtn on Dec 24, 2009 1:19 AM CST reply actions

I dont think Cleveland takes QB in the first round

And I dont think the Chiefs take a RB with their first 2nd round pick. Hell going with your draft I would rather take Golden Tate, and gamble on Gerhart.

You really should get professional help. Your obsession with ND football is not healthy. ---Dr. lookingdeadred

by averagegatsby on Dec 24, 2009 1:38 AM CST reply actions

The places I read about Tate indicate he is a Slot/Speed WR

My thought on the WR position is that a lot of WR’s are going to be moving in FA this year with proven NFL pedigrees. Why spend a draft pick on WR if we could use it for things that would not be available in FA

Brandon Marshall – Denver
Vincent Jackson – San Diego
Miles Austin – Dallas
Steve Breaston – Arizona (RFA)
Braylon Edwards – New York
Antonio Bryant – Tampa Bay
Kevin Walter – Houston
Malcom Floyd – San Diego
Lance Moore – New Orleans
Chris Chambers – Kansas City
Josh Reed – Buffalo
Bobby Wade – Kansas City
Mark Bradley – Kansas City
Dominik Hixon – New York Giants
Brad Smith – New York Jets
Chris Henry – Cincinnati
Mark Clayton – Baltimore
Jason Avant – Philadelphia
Demetrius Williams – Baltimore
Jerheme Urban – Arizona

We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09. Almost there :)
And Succop will be the Key in two of them. Skins & Raiders! Pittsburgh Sweet!
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram

by Steve_Chiefs on Dec 24, 2009 7:58 AM CST up reply actions

I dont get that list at all

Why list Chiefs receivers on that list… And Chris Henry is dead, not only that but do you really think Brandon Marshall Vincen Jackson Miles Austin or hell many of those other guys are going anywhere? And Braylon Edwards absolutely sucks with worse drop problems than anyone we already have. I would rather have Golden Tate than just about anyone on that list.

With Golden Tate you upgrade 2 positions with a dynamic returner and potential play making WR.

You really should get professional help. Your obsession with ND football is not healthy. ---Dr. lookingdeadred

by averagegatsby on Dec 24, 2009 9:55 AM CST up reply actions

Yeah I should of edited the list :(

poor taste if nothing else.
So if I understand, Bowe and Chambers wide and Tate is the slot WR/KR/PR.

We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09. Almost there :)
And Succop will be the Key in two of them. Skins & Raiders! Pittsburgh Sweet!
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram

by Steve_Chiefs on Dec 24, 2009 10:11 AM CST up reply actions

I dont see a problem with that

Looking at that draft I also dont see StL taking a DE with the first pick in back to back years

You really should get professional help. Your obsession with ND football is not healthy. ---Dr. lookingdeadred

by averagegatsby on Dec 24, 2009 11:19 AM CST up reply actions

Plus they already have a DE with drunk driving problems.

Johnnie Morton: The Man. The Myth. The Legend.

by craig in calgary on Dec 24, 2009 11:22 AM CST up reply actions

Funny

Drafttek has this
http://www.drafttek.com/round22010_33-48.asp

I think my draftdebacle got debacled :)
They have Cleveland picking #1 all my thoughts were a waste of effort.

We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09. Almost there :)
And Succop will be the Key in two of them. Skins & Raiders! Pittsburgh Sweet!
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram

by Steve_Chiefs on Dec 24, 2009 11:28 AM CST up reply actions

Is Leonard Little still in the league?

You really should get professional help. Your obsession with ND football is not healthy. ---Dr. lookingdeadred

by averagegatsby on Dec 24, 2009 12:11 PM CST up reply actions

Yep

He got his pee-pee slapped, and has been playing ever since.

Johnnie Morton: The Man. The Myth. The Legend.

by craig in calgary on Dec 24, 2009 12:21 PM CST up reply actions

I looked it up...

That guy is 35, he has to almost be done.

StL reminds me that its okay to be a Chiefs fan, they are such a trainwreck.

You really should get professional help. Your obsession with ND football is not healthy. ---Dr. lookingdeadred

by averagegatsby on Dec 24, 2009 12:39 PM CST up reply actions

I find it funny

Jerheme Urban is white
Brad Smith is black.

Brad Smith sounds like an accountant and Jerheme Urban sounds like he rolls with LJ’s crew.
Aaaaahh racial stereotyping.

Johnnie Morton: The Man. The Myth. The Legend.

by craig in calgary on Dec 24, 2009 12:09 PM CST up reply actions

kinda like Keith Urban, the country singer?

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers

by stagdsp on Dec 24, 2009 12:10 PM CST up reply actions

Keith Urban, the pop singer?

If someone asks you if you want extra mayonnaise you have to say yes, cus that's part of it.
-Jared Allen

by JComp11 on Dec 24, 2009 1:49 PM CST up reply actions

I see this as best move

Bryant most likely to leave the team he is on TB good player next to Bowe, Chambers looks alot like Fitz, Boldin, Breaston maybe a touch weaker but not much. Urban, Hixon, Clayton, Avant are all #4 WR options. Should fill in FA as Pioli did in NE.

RB tilt the same way FA. Chester Taylor, Piere Thomas, Lendel White.

by kcchiefstd on Dec 24, 2009 12:54 PM CST up reply actions

I disagree about some of those guys being #4's

Plaxico Burress was a number 2 till he left Pittsburgh, and Welker was a 3 or 4 till he left Miami. Sometimes you just have to get the right guy for your system.

You really should get professional help. Your obsession with ND football is not healthy. ---Dr. lookingdeadred

by averagegatsby on Dec 24, 2009 1:44 PM CST up reply actions

what do you guys think

about Walter?

Air Cassel - approved for takeoff

by kabrink on Dec 25, 2009 9:57 AM CST up reply actions

I like walter site a lot

drafttek just gives a different take on the players.
Still looking for other sites that keep up to date info too.

We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09. Almost there :)
And Succop will be the Key in two of them. Skins & Raiders! Pittsburgh Sweet!
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram

by Steve_Chiefs on Dec 25, 2009 12:16 PM CST up reply actions

I like the rankings that Scouts give on ESPN

You really should get professional help. Your obsession with ND football is not healthy. ---Dr. lookingdeadred

by averagegatsby on Dec 25, 2009 4:52 PM CST up reply actions

I've shied away from espn, for all the bells and whistles. Pages a little too sticky for me, even w/ broadband.

Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.

by hmills110 on Dec 25, 2009 5:48 PM CST up reply actions

I find myself flipping over to walter quite a bit, when Steve or others start talkin' players

Just for a quick mention, and for tidbits that jump out.

But you visit enough of those sites, and you find fairly wide discrepancies in their assessments. I think to have the most fun and make up your own original mock, you watch as much college ball as possible, and anticipate numerous matchups, like top NTs versus top Cs in college.

Steve’s points about updates are relevant. Walter usually has a time stamp that tells you the last time anybody there said anything about the guy. In a way, it’s disappointing to see them, because so many pre-date key games in which player x faced player y in a big game, but it’s great, because they’re not lying to you about the date of the entry. A smart college fan would see the date, and be able to factor in games that post-date the Walter entry.

Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.

by hmills110 on Dec 25, 2009 1:55 PM CST up reply actions

Cleveland I think takes Tate or Bryant since they have Cribbs Bryant.

I do agree to many glaring needs to take a RB in the second. OL over RB. WR and RB should be handled in FA

by kcchiefstd on Dec 24, 2009 12:41 PM CST up reply actions

Cribbs isn't a very good WR though.

So I think Bryant fills the need of a big possession receiver that Cleveland needs.

You really should get professional help. Your obsession with ND football is not healthy. ---Dr. lookingdeadred

by averagegatsby on Dec 24, 2009 1:43 PM CST up reply actions

It says something about Cleveland's lack of WR that Cribbs is even considered a WR.

Correct on the needs, there, but who knows what Cleveland does?

Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.

by hmills110 on Dec 24, 2009 6:45 PM CST up reply actions

No it says a lot about how bad Cribbs is as a Receiver with all his talents...

Though Massaquoi is a star in the making. Cleveland really struck gold trading Braylon in his contract year.

You really should get professional help. Your obsession with ND football is not healthy. ---Dr. lookingdeadred

by averagegatsby on Dec 24, 2009 8:09 PM CST up reply actions

Cribbs looks like he'd be a monster S to me.

But maybe his receiving tells us something about how that’d work out.

You think he’s tough enough to share RB duties? Does he have those skills? Saw him throw a pick the other day out of Wildcat, didn’t I?

About Massaquoi, it looked to me like Flowers was more physical at the line than Massaquoi’s built to handle. He has separation speed on Flowers, but Flowers could vary how much he holds Massaquoi back, and how deep Flowers is prepared to get on a play and make it very difficult to hit the up route. Massaquoi could get a step on Flowers all day long and the pass still be ridiculously low percentage, because of what Flowers can bring.

Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.

by hmills110 on Dec 25, 2009 2:02 PM CST up reply actions

Another QB to throw it to him might help tooo

We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09. Almost there :)
And Succop will be the Key in two of them. Skins & Raiders! Pittsburgh Sweet!
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram

by Steve_Chiefs on Dec 25, 2009 2:41 PM CST up reply actions

I still think they need to get bigger at starting WR.

But yeah, you’d think that Quinn should have some good opportunities off the play fake.

Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.

by hmills110 on Dec 25, 2009 3:47 PM CST up reply actions

You should check out the draft simulator on drafttek

I reworked the team needs as I see them.
we got
Okung
Dan Williams NT 2nd round
Maurkice Pouncey C @ 50
an ILB, rb, TE
interesting

We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09. Almost there :)
And Succop will be the Key in two of them. Skins & Raiders! Pittsburgh Sweet!
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram

by Steve_Chiefs on Dec 25, 2009 3:56 PM CST up reply actions

I could live with that.

L – I mean ‘I’ – haven’t done the simulator, and doubt that I will, but I’m glad YOU did!

Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.

by hmills110 on Dec 25, 2009 4:40 PM CST up reply actions

Massaquoi is a rookie though...

He is doing quite well for a Rookie WR. And Flowers is a really good corner, not every CB in the league plays like him.

You really should get professional help. Your obsession with ND football is not healthy. ---Dr. lookingdeadred

by averagegatsby on Dec 25, 2009 4:55 PM CST up reply actions

Flowers is a real football player. No question.

But he’s a 5’9’’ football player with not quite the spring or the wheels of a Darryl Green, who was dominant, despite his size. Flowers is very good, though.

Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.

by hmills110 on Dec 25, 2009 5:51 PM CST up reply actions

Thx for the links, Steve.

A nice convenience. I’ll spend some time reading-up.

Your 2nd rounder for a RB goes against my grain, obviously, but I get the sense that YOU are building your own sense of the real value of players, and where the drop-offs and the snags lie in the annual flood of incoming players. The one thing I hate above all is “general principles” picks that simply aren’t football players, which I saw far too much of under Peterson’s rule.

Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.

by hmills110 on Dec 24, 2009 2:48 AM CST reply actions

Then again, I never agreed with Peterson's high RB picks, either.

Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.

by hmills110 on Dec 24, 2009 3:07 AM CST up reply actions