Chiefs Coach Haley Denies Jack Harry's Report
by Joel Thorman on Dec 23, 2009 4:00 PM CST
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Yesterday, sports reporter Jack Harry of NBC Action News delivered a segment on the nightly news devoted to an email he received from someone. Harry claims to have received a "three-page letter" from a fan alleging Todd Haley flipped him off after he yelled "You deserve to be fired!" after Sunday's game.
(Photo via NBC Action News)
The story first popped up on ChiefsPlanet.com under the name gblowfish, and it appears Harry picked up on that, emailed the person and asked for their story. He says, "I sought out this fan," which basically means he was reading ChiefsPlanet.com for some material.
Harry reported this story last night and ended it with, "And Todd Haley is a wuss!"
Harry did not show up to Haley's press conference today instead sending another NBC reporter to, as the guys at 610 Sports put it, "do his dirty work."
Nick Wright of 610 Sports said this afternoon that the NBC reporter told him before the press conference he was there to ask Haley about the report.
The reporter asked Haley about it, which the coach quickly denied citing the need to be above that, especially with kids at home. He said he's always been appreciative of the fans and that he routinely signs autographs and gives high fives to the fans in the tunnel heading into the locker room.
He said it's not something he would do, has done, or wants to do.
An Arrowhead Pride commenter (tomahawk44) corroborated Haley's story that he did not flip the bird. He was sitting in the same section by the tunnel that leads to the locker room.
Then Nick Wright asked Haley (paraphrased): 'What do you think about a reporter who never shows up here calling you a wuss?'
Haley took it in stride. He never blew up or said anything inappropriate, which I think was the intent of Harry's report to begin with.
Harry didn't fact check just claiming a "three-page letter" and "two emails" as his sources, who of course wanted to remain anonymous. With those sources, he accused the head coach of a NFL team of something that could potentially result in a fine, suspension or termination. On top of all that, he didn't even show up to ask the question himself.
Harry's allowed to do the rants he's become known for. But when you start throwing out accusations like that, it's murky waters.
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told ya :)
Haley isnt lying I actually got his auto before the game on Sunday and I will be sending good ole Harry an email myself tonight when I get off work.
by tomahawk44 on Dec 23, 2009 4:02 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Harry stated
It ALL as fact, not as being alleged. It’s dispicible, shoddy journalism.
by Chief-Eli on Dec 23, 2009 4:02 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Jack Harry lost any crediability
he had (which wasn’t much to begin with) when he reported that the Chiefs were close to an agreement with Mike Shanahan, in my opinion. He doesn’t have any legitimate sources (hence looking at Chiefs Planet for a tip).
"I can only imagine what it is going to be like in that town if we are fortunate to build a winner. You win there, you can sense that it would be something really special." - Todd Haley
Twitter: @jjshore
Yep
He saw Chris Mortensen reported it and started claiming that.
by Joel Thorman on Dec 23, 2009 4:13 PM CST up reply actions
"Haley took it in stride. He never blew up or said anything appropriate"
But did he say anything in-appropriate? LOL
:finger: Jack!
Even Deadspin does more investigative reporting than this
A story from one person sending an email? And said person probably being pissed off about the Chiefs season? Hmmm, very reliable
Wow, Chiefsplanet believes the fan over Haley
Currently, its 88% to 12% trusting the fan over Haley.
The reason is the fan, gblowfish, is a regular poster at ChiefsPlanet. He is also considered trustworthy by the patrons of that site, so they trust his story.
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?s=bc87c3cc7ae67097dcd8b512e6bf321b&t=220423
He said, she said
Not trying to defend the fan or Haley….Harry basically let a rumor fly without any tangible sort of evidence or attempt to hear Haley’s side.
by Joel Thorman on Dec 23, 2009 4:25 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
now skeeter, we don't want no trouble, ya hear?
give them hell!
by worc on Dec 23, 2009 4:43 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
lol.
What is it with you joining other sites? What’s the matter? Run out of SB Nation sites to harass? haha. ;-)
My sentiments are likely to be summed up with one of these 2 quotes:
"Shut the f--- up."- Matt Cassel
"WHAT THE F---?!?!"- Todd Haley
R.I.P. C.H., #15
by Red N Gold Beast on Dec 23, 2009 6:55 PM CST up reply actions
That chick leaning on the railing... omg.
My sentiments are likely to be summed up with one of these 2 quotes:
"Shut the f--- up."- Matt Cassel
"WHAT THE F---?!?!"- Todd Haley
R.I.P. C.H., #15
by Red N Gold Beast on Dec 23, 2009 6:57 PM CST up reply actions
Hey GBLOWFISH ...
I’d flip you off, too. Gawd, is this what the Chiefs have come to? News about whether or not the Head Coach gave a Bud Adams salute? And what does Harry get for flinging rumors and such … journalistic immunity?
Ya, I’m a Kool-Aid drinker …
Who tied the other end of my rope? I wanna move on, I wanna have hope!
by MattyMac44 on Dec 23, 2009 4:31 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
exactly
If I’m Haley, I thank the dude for his business. Here’s a clue, GBLOWFISH… if you don’t like the product… don’t buy it!
Also, everyone should know by now that if you want your personal story presented in the most reputable manner to the public, you email Chris or Joel Thormanl. Not Jack Harry!
by ChiefsDude on Dec 23, 2009 4:41 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Yep ...
who trusts a guy wearing a sportcoat and tie combo like that? Sure the sweater-vest is hanging in the closet ready to go.
I have it in “good emails” that Chris and Joel DO NOT own sweater-vests…
Who tied the other end of my rope? I wanna move on, I wanna have hope!
Your kidding me
Is this what sports journalism has come to?
Before you build yourself up, you must tear somebody else down.
Appears so doesn't it.
We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09. Almost there :)
And Succop will be the Key in two of them. Skins & Raiders! Pittsburgh Sweet!
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
by Steve_Chiefs on Dec 23, 2009 4:39 PM CST up reply actions
joined/replied over there
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=6374354&postcount=197
Really, that’s pretty much how I feel.
so apparently
I am not so heavily appreciated for essentially saying “arguing over the internet about a he said she said makes you a more of a gossip than a fan”
Not a fan of CP.
by g00dn1ghtm4r3 on Dec 23, 2009 5:05 PM CST up reply actions
a forum
is a forum to voice your opinion :)
mine simply was that they probably missed real housewives or something because they were busy whining over something that might or might not have happened. Gossip queens.
by g00dn1ghtm4r3 on Dec 23, 2009 5:09 PM CST up reply actions
Jack Harry
Jack Harry has been and always will be a complete tool. He has always had his opinion, and it’s always been an irritating, immature rant. Anybody writing an article about him is just giving the d-bag fodder. Hey Jack, since you don’t seem to want to complement the good things about the teams in KC, why the H are you still here “covering” them. Retire already, from the 3-page letter and the 2 emails I got regarding you, KC Chiefs and Royals fans can’t wait for you to be gone.
I can beat that thread and raise with this thread...
LOL
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=220427
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
Wow. Just. Wow. Am I the only person to click on this?
Seriously?
Did Jack Harry seriously ask “can someone get me Blowfish’s Email?”
AND DID JASON WHITLOCK GIVE IT TO HIM?!?! Seriously?
Wait for it………….
BWA HA HAH HA HA HAH HA HAHHHHHHH. LMMFAO!!!!!
My sentiments are likely to be summed up with one of these 2 quotes:
"Shut the f--- up."- Matt Cassel
"WHAT THE F---?!?!"- Todd Haley
R.I.P. C.H., #15
by Red N Gold Beast on Dec 23, 2009 6:41 PM CST up reply actions
I would like to thank the Thormans and Co. for running a tight ship over here on AP.
It seems a bit out of control over there…
by worc on Dec 23, 2009 6:47 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed.
"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"
-Marty Schottenheimer
by go_saleaumua on Dec 25, 2009 7:50 PM CST up reply actions
Here's the thread and quote btw...
As a side note he has 7,759 posts, which doesn’t mean he’s telling the THE_TRUTH, but he sure the hell has his own “balloon boy” moment in the least (minus the hard time).
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=220242
1. After the game, when the team was leaving the field, I had that same sinking feeling that I’ve had for many years now. That my football year is over. The home season is over. Football for me is done until the draft, or maybe training camp, or maybe opening day in 2010. I’m over 50 years old now. My Chiefs Years (like Dog Years) are ebbing away like sands in the hourglass. I don’t want to watch a mediocre loser for another 15 years like the 1970s and 1980s. I just don’t have that kind of time left, and certainly don’t have the patience any more. Chiefs fans deserve better, and that’s not just talk. We truly deserve better than this for everything we’ve given to the Chiefs loyalty, money, time, money, emotion, money- over the last 50 years. When Haley was leaving the field, I leaned over the rail and yelled at him “YOU DESERVE TO BE FIRED” which after today’s performance, I believe to be absolute truth. He stopped, looked up, and gave me the finger. The exclamation point on George Blowfish’s fan appreciation day experience.
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
Ignorance
This is how coaches lose respect for local journalism. Remember he is also the one that said Shannahan is coming to town.
personally
I’ve taken to emailing local newspaper, news, and corporate headquarters of said news outlet about the horrible psycho-babble rants of jack harry and how it’s embarrassing to NBC to continue to pay for this dementia ridden sack of wrinkles to do nothing but scream about things.
JACK HARRY
Jack Harry is a complete idiot who goes way over the top all the time.He thinks that being a complete nutjob and running with stories from unnamed drunken fans at “Camarohead” is journalism. This old buzzcut wearing spray tan having clown needs to shut his mouth unless he has proof of an incident before reporting.CLOWN!!
Interesting thought
Was jack harry’s choice of actions legally libel?
His lack of sourcing would legally be labeled as “reckless disregard for the truth”
Haley’s head coaching job would make him qualify as a “public figure”
Television news broadcast would turn slander to libel
If it were libel, it would be qualified as “libel per se”
Professionally, Jack Harry just sank to tabloid level reporting. Anything you do that makes people consider whether or not a lawsuit could be very easily opening against you is bad, mr. harry.
by g00dn1ghtm4r3 on Dec 23, 2009 6:05 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
You can't libel a public figure
Therefore, Harry is safe. Too bad.
John
"Gentlemen! You can't fight in here. This is the War Room!"
Am I the only one that finds this morbidly entertaining?
Jack Harry calls Haley a wuss for allegedly flipping off a fan and then walking through the tunnel with 2 security guards…. and then doesn’t show up to the presser the next day. lmfao.
Yeah Jack…. we all know who the wuss is here. WTF.
Maybe Haley and Harry need to coordinate a charity boxing match:
“In the blue corner weighing in at 115lbs…. he’s the face of shoddy sports journalism, Jack ‘The Leather Face’ Haaaarrrryyyyyy……..
And in the red corner, weighing in at 185lbs… coach of the Chiefs, master of the bird, Todd “The Screamin’ Demon” Haleyyyyyy.
And the crowd goes wild.
I’d pay to see that before I’d pay to go to a Chiefs game.
My sentiments are likely to be summed up with one of these 2 quotes:
"Shut the f--- up."- Matt Cassel
"WHAT THE F---?!?!"- Todd Haley
R.I.P. C.H., #15
by Red N Gold Beast on Dec 23, 2009 6:35 PM CST reply actions
Will they hit each other w/ purses, or use actual gloves?
"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"
-Marty Schottenheimer
by go_saleaumua on Dec 25, 2009 7:55 PM CST up reply actions
Well. Chiefs Planet turned out to be good for one thing.
Look at the awesome profile pic I stole.
My sentiments are likely to be summed up with one of these 2 quotes:
"Shut the f--- up."- Matt Cassel
"WHAT THE F---?!?!"- Todd Haley
R.I.P. C.H., #15
by Red N Gold Beast on Dec 23, 2009 7:02 PM CST reply actions
BTW, CP really is disappointing.
Nice work by Chris, Joel etc on running a solid blog here.
"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"
-Marty Schottenheimer
by go_saleaumua on Dec 25, 2009 7:56 PM CST up reply actions
C'Mon Man
Yea, This is the same Jack(ass) Harry that reported last year that Mike Shannan was new Chiefs head coach… I lived in KC for over thirty years,,, he never gets it right… He should be fired for statements..Schmuck
by BBell78 on Dec 23, 2009 7:19 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I remember when he reported that "Marty Schottenheimer was spotted at KCI..."
…last year after Peterson was fired because someone called ch41 and left it on an answering machine (because if Clark Hunt was interested in hiring a GM, he'd make the potential hire fly here on a public airline)
I actually like Harry for his fire, but that’s about it, really. Anything he says should be taken with a grain of salt.
Joel’s right, it’s all “he-said-she-said” BS anyway. No one has indisputable proof of anything, so who cares?
My long, drawn-out predictions that no one cares about, nor will bother to remember:
1. Todd Haley will still be the Chiefs Head Coach up to the 2011 season.
2. Clancy Pendergast won't make it to the 2010 season and was never intended to. Last-minute hire for a position that needed to be filled.
3. Todd Haley will not be the OC at the start of the 2010 season.
Exactly.
"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"
-Marty Schottenheimer
by go_saleaumua on Dec 25, 2009 7:56 PM CST up reply actions
This guy Harry is an idiot
This guy is an idiot reporter trying to draw attention to himself. What a butt hole reporter going to report something then doesn’t have the balls to ask Haley himself. No way in the world I believe Haley did something like that. He’s been around pro football long enough to know something like that you just don’t do.
Haley is lying guys.
Unfortunately there’s not a damn thing anyone can do about it without some proof.
But he’s lying, for sure. There’s no question about.
I might believe it:::
If ESPN had it on video. It would have been front page news. All over every sports page in the country.
I watched the interview with Haley today. No way, the guy appears to be pretty honest.
Jack Harry:: not so much!
by BBell78 on Dec 23, 2009 8:41 PM CST via mobile reply actions
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