2010 Chiefs

well..

I dont’ like trading future 1st rounders for Cody (or spending this year’s 1st rounder on him either)

also, it’s (i) Iupati, not Lupati

Oh, and your FA would be GREAT, but also VERY unlikely, IMHO

And, what do you have against O’Callaghan? I think he’s playing well

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers

by stagdsp on Dec 21, 2009 3:48 PM CST reply actions

Cody is not worth a 1st round pick

especially a future 1st. If anything i can see up spicking him up early second or maybe trading up to very late 1st round.

by KCCheeze on Dec 21, 2009 3:52 PM CST up reply actions

I have to agree

mainly because I have heard that he is so big that he cannot play very often and gets subbed out alot. I just think we need a first rounder on the field more than off. But, this is all based on hearsay.

If everyone worked as hard as me, I would be out of a job.

-Steve Nash

by Red Shadow on Dec 21, 2009 3:59 PM CST up reply actions

yeah...

conditioning would be a big deal for him.

Haley might kill him in OTAs :)

Really, people say Wilfork is only a 2 down NT… so, I wouldn’t lose sleep over drafting a guy for 1st and 2nd down, bringing in pass rushers like Magee or Gillberry on 3rd down.

So, IF he meets Pioli/Haley’s conditioning standards, he’d probably be a good pick… but that’s the big IF that makes me NOT want to consider a 1st round pick on him.

He’s essentially this year’s Ron Brace, with more hype.
Brace was drafted in the 2nd by the Pats.

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers

by stagdsp on Dec 21, 2009 4:02 PM CST up reply actions

Spot on

Excellent analysis, I agree: Ron Brace, with more hype. Take him further up in the 2nd round when the risk is less.

by Wheatboy74 on Dec 21, 2009 5:09 PM CST up reply actions

Seems that all of the top draft NT prospects ie Cody and Williams

project as 2 down players, Taking a couple or 4 5-UDFA flyers would play out better and cheaper and save the upper picks for everydown guys.

We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09. Almost there :)
And Succop will be the Key in two of them. Skins & Raiders! Pittsburgh Sweet!
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram

by Steve_Chiefs on Dec 21, 2009 6:01 PM CST up reply actions

See below.

Or above. Whatever.

If you had high confidence that you’re going to hit on one of those flyers. Chances are good, though, that not a one of ’em is going to improve your chances against playoff teams.

Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.

by hmills110 on Dec 22, 2009 1:23 AM CST up reply actions

I noticed that too.

O’Call is way better than Richardson IMO. McNiel wouldn’t be a bad free agency pickup though.

by Chiefsfan1970 on Dec 21, 2009 4:37 PM CST up reply actions

Stupid reply button!

by Chiefsfan1970 on Dec 21, 2009 4:38 PM CST up reply actions

If RT could be addressed with someone as good or better than O'Callaghan,

there wouldn’t be any real 1st-day urgency at the position.

Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.

by hmills110 on Dec 22, 2009 1:26 AM CST up reply actions

Wow, There is not much change here.

Do you know who will be a free agent for the chiefs this year? I think DJ is, but I am not sure who else would fall in that category.

I think you will see many more changes than you suggest. I only count 6 new starters and I think there will be twice that many.

by Spunky on Dec 21, 2009 4:21 PM CST reply actions

12 new starters?

that’s a from scratch rebuild…

I am hoping that doesnt’ happen again for a long, long time

4-7 is a reasonable number for 2010

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers

by stagdsp on Dec 21, 2009 4:40 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs

+1

Thanks Stag, that makes good sense. That would be a major rebuild and not pleasant at all.

by Spunky on Dec 21, 2009 4:51 PM CST up reply actions

I see Hali, Dorsey, Jackson, Flowers, Carr, maybe Page as D-starters next year

maybe Vrabel and/or DJ as possibles.
D needs NT, ILB, ILB, S

We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09. Almost there :)
And Succop will be the Key in two of them. Skins & Raiders! Pittsburgh Sweet!
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram

by Steve_Chiefs on Dec 21, 2009 6:05 PM CST up reply actions

i don't disagree

but, I wouldn’t count on 2 new ILB starters this offseason

so, 3 new starters on defense

on offense, a new Center, possibly RG, and possibly a WR….

so, up to 3 new starters on offense

that’s all I EXPECT… but, we’ll see what happens, and we can of course HOPE for more big time upgrades

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers

by stagdsp on Dec 21, 2009 6:14 PM CST up reply actions

Do you think that Pioli is going to pay top dollar for a FA 30 year old NT?

Seems the MO was Churn the Position. Trading Tank sorta blew up on him except for the 5th round pick. Pioli felt that some out of the league guys could gloss that over until Dorsey wasn’t there to salvage the D-line. Pioli might feel that McCoy or Suh if available woould serve 3 downs unlike Cody or Williams. Or he might say “Damn It” I will get 2 guys and Edwards and rotate and get a REAL NT when it is justified. What do you think of the Vikings D? a 4-3 with a NT and a JA as a real 4-3 End?

We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09. Almost there :)
And Succop will be the Key in two of them. Skins & Raiders! Pittsburgh Sweet!
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram

by Steve_Chiefs on Dec 21, 2009 9:11 PM CST up reply actions

I think that's what they were down to.

And I think expectations were higher for Tyler and Edwards. I know mine were higher than what transpired.

I don’t think the Tyler trade blew up on him. I think the trade occurred because Tyler didn’t pan out as a future NT.

One thing we learned is that Dion Gales is far from ready for primetime, when Dorsey sat out a game with a bum knee. I can’t understand why he’s listed as backup to Dorsey, when Gilberry is by far the more capable of the two, and Gilberry’s been no world-beater, to date.

Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.

by hmills110 on Dec 22, 2009 12:47 AM CST up reply actions

I think Churning the roster works better at LB, RB, and G, where you can coach up a higher percentage

of the available talent pool to be stalwarts within a team concept (scattergun). I expect to see less of that roster-churning at G and more of it at OT, and to a slightly lesser extent, C, are more rare among the players of sufficient size. On D-Line, you need guys who are as big as their offensive counterparts and even more athletic. This makes them even more rare. For championship D, I think you want top 5 talent at all 3 DL positions. Seen in that light, taking the top pair of 3-4 DE prospects in the ‘09 draft may one day be seen as a real coup by Pioli (the first likely a reach and the 2nd likely a steal, but overall very good value and high expectations for the pair of picks expended). In a given draft, I’d say that translates to being in the top 2 or 3 at their position, and maybe not at all in a weak draft.

It doesn’t sound like you’re particularly excited about the NT position in the next draft. Care to elaborate? This is the part where a sharpshooter comes in handy.

Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.

by hmills110 on Dec 22, 2009 1:20 AM CST up reply actions

RB anyone?

J.C will not last if we don’t get another guy to share the load,IMO Anthony Dixon is the man we need. Does anyone think we could get him in the second rd?

by CPT.Caveman on Dec 22, 2009 1:29 PM CST up reply actions

Toby Gerhart gets my vote in the 2nd round

IF they want to draft a RB there

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers

by stagdsp on Dec 22, 2009 2:12 PM CST up reply actions

I don't like him

He runs to upright, and looks slow, but maybe a FB or run blocking TE. That’s just my opinion, i might be crazy…….after all i’m a Caveman:P

by CPT.Caveman on Dec 22, 2009 9:03 PM CST up reply actions

I do think

He has good hand’s out of the backfield, and runs over people even without the body lean.

by CPT.Caveman on Dec 22, 2009 9:05 PM CST up reply actions

I like the Eric Berry and Luptai pick but its downhill from there

we wont resign Page if we draft Berry. Page has outplayed his late round selection but if we draft Berry there will be no need for him anymore. Brown will be resigned instead and Berry will play FS.

Trading up for Cody would be a mistake. He’s not worth a first round pick, nor the money. Pioli would rather sign a proven veteran than draft a rookie player i.e. Cassel over a rookie QB last year. Id rather see hampton or wilfork in a chiefs uniform and keep that pick.

I like Lupati….But the Chiefs already think they have a G in Albert. I see them moving him over to G and drafting someone to play LT.

by KC_MO on Dec 21, 2009 4:48 PM CST reply actions

I don't think they part with Page, unless they don't think he's good enough.

Price is right, and, at worst, they have a depth player with starting experience. Wasn’t long ago that he was touted as a pretty solid asset and a great value, at the price. If they add top-drawer talent in the next draft in the secondary (which I think is entirely in order, Page becomes, at worst, MUCH better depth at the position than any of the clowns playin’ behind him this season, assuming he comes back strong next year. I’m not even sure what his current injury is.

Do you see KC drafting LT #1?

Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.

by hmills110 on Dec 22, 2009 1:41 AM CST up reply actions

Only thing I'd add

Your roster still has the Chiefs weak at RB— not enough depth with just Charles, he can’t run 25 times per game and not wear down too much. Need a better between-the-tackles runner for short yardage, etc. I also think the WR group is very weak, and they drop a lot of balls. If Bowe lacks the speed/acceleration to stretch the field, is poor for YAC and continues to have inconsistent hands, is he worth a re-sign after his rookie deal is up? OTW need to draft someone else and start to groom them.

by Wheatboy74 on Dec 21, 2009 5:17 PM CST reply actions

Interesting questions. You take little for granted.

I didn’t like the idea, at first, but Lendale White wants/needs a change of scenery. He has a pretty complete tool kit and runs with power. And while I think Charles probably needs to keep it at or below the low 20s per game, I feel like he’s an every-down back. Just leave him on the field in short yardage and God help the opposition if they go with their jumbo package. He’s the same RB he was on the 1st pair of downs, and 3rd and short means whatevery you’re doing is netting you 4+ yards per attempt.

I would guess that much would depend on Lendale’s opinion of himself and the asking price that went with it.

As an aside, I used to HATE that about Martyball. 3rd and 2, you try for 2 and get 1-and-a-half, and overjoyed if you get 2 the hard way. Why the hell shut half your playbook when you’re in a great situation for opening it up and bustin’ a big gainer with your best players on the field?

But considering how poorly the line was/is run-blocking (to the point where it takes a world-class sprinter to get any thing done), the Chiefs might already have more talent at RB than you think, though you’ve ‘most every reason in the world to think they’re weak at RB.

Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.

by hmills110 on Dec 22, 2009 2:10 AM CST up reply actions

I have a feeling

that there will be a new QB in the 2nd or 3rd spot
couldn’t tell you who though

Also need another RB to compliment Charles

There should probaly be a new face among that group of CBs

Before you build yourself up, you must tear somebody else down.

by Zennedy on Dec 21, 2009 5:25 PM CST reply actions

Hell, you don't need another RB to compliment Charles.

I can take care of it for you:

I think Charles is great.

Oh. You meant… Never mind.

Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.

by hmills110 on Dec 22, 2009 2:12 AM CST up reply actions

lol

shirley you cant be serious..

Just like novocaine. give it time; always works..
The greater the fall, the grander the ascention..

by be cee on Dec 22, 2009 5:17 AM CST up reply actions

I doubt Hampton and Wilfork will actually see free agency

if they do great i’d take either and maybe terrence cody is a reach but it is hard to find a good nose tackle and he is a good run stuffer and maybe Haley and Krumie can knock some pounds off of him. does anyone think dan williams would be a better option? I’d be happy with either

I like Ryan O’Callaghan and would not be opposed to keepin him i just saw a chance for an upgrade

Jackie Battle is a 238 pounds and athletic he is just on the IR we also could see Kolby Smith back in the mix and an improved line will make any RB look good

Miles Ausitn or Brandon Marshall would be awesome alternatives if they hit free agency but i expect them to get tagged along with a couple of my other FA

by funfan on Dec 21, 2009 5:31 PM CST reply actions

dan williams COULD be a better option

either way, I wouldn’t draft a NT in the 1st, as one of those guys should be there in the 2nd

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers

by stagdsp on Dec 21, 2009 5:32 PM CST up reply actions

agreed

we could probably find someone with our 2nd pick in round 2 I just feel that is our biggest need and thats what makes every 3-4 defense work ron edwards is not a nose tackle

by funfan on Dec 21, 2009 5:38 PM CST up reply actions

I agree

Dan Williams would be a better option than Mt. Cody, but I am not sure either will make it out of the 1st round. With Miami, Pittsburgh, San Diego, Arizona all picking in the late teens and higher, they might both be gone before our 2nd round selections.

by chrisclark_dfw on Dec 21, 2009 11:19 PM CST up reply actions

But that's why many of us see Williams as a logical 2a pick. If he's there, that's good value for a real team need...

… even if Pioli takes a top-shelf NT FA. And there’s a reasonable chance that NT receives little attention in the 1st. Somehow I doubt PIT plans to draft NT in the 1st, even though they’re likely on the market.

Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.

by hmills110 on Dec 22, 2009 2:36 AM CST up reply actions

Hampton

is on record saying that he would test the waters if the Steelers didn’t offer an extension in season. The Steelers are on record saying he’ll get no extension.

Hampton’s quote:
Ed Bouchette, of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, reports Pittsburgh Steelers DL Casey Hampton, who is entering the final year of his contract, senses 2009 may be his last season with the team. “Yeah, it’s coming down to that,” Hampton said. “If they don’t do contracts during the season, then that’ll make me a free agent. If I get to free agency, man, I mean everybody knows what it is. So I don’t need to say something about that. If they let me get to free agency, everybody knows what it’s going to be, so there’s no need to even talk about it.”

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by KCSatchmo on Dec 21, 2009 5:50 PM CST up reply actions

FB & WR

Mike Cox has to go & so does Mark Bradley. There has to be better FA players available out there. I am also hoping that some LB & NT help is on the way through Free Agency. LB’s & NT stop the running game and i am pretty sure we are in dire need of that!!

by Chief1 on Dec 21, 2009 5:37 PM CST reply actions

Like TEs, seems all Cox wants to do is catch the ball.

Bradley looks less raw than the player I saw last year, and I see nothing fundamentally wrong with his technique. I just don’t think he’s all that talented. He may be as good as training can make him, and he’s still not a consistent pass-catcher.

I was really disappointed at the lack of a bruising FB. Seemed KC had a fair number of bigger RBs with ball skills, but none of ’em seemed to want to be confused with a lead-blocker.

Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.

by hmills110 on Dec 22, 2009 2:45 AM CST up reply actions

Updated after Cleveland!!

We still sign DE Seymour, LT Donald Penn and WR Malcolm Floyd. We trade Dorsey and D. Morgan to Tampa for their 2 second round picks and their third. Trade down with Houston (they can draft DT McCoy) for their #15 overall ,2nd and 4th rounders. Send the rights to Kolby Smith and our worst fifth rounder to Jville for RB Rashad Jennings. Draft:

R1 #16 NT Terrence Cody-Alabama
R2 #34 DE Carlos Dunlap-Florida
R2 #36 LB Brandon Spikes-Florida
R2 #40 WR Golden Tate-Notre Dame
R2 #44 C Kris O’Dowd-USC
R3 #66 G Mike Johnson-Alabama
R3 #68 LB Eric Norwood-S. Carolina
R4 #99 SS Justin Woodall-Alabama
R4 110 FS Jordan Lake-Baylor
R5 131 KR Brandon Banks-KSU
R5 138 OT Kyle Jolly-N. Carolina
R7 212 CB Jerome Murphy-USF

D Line is fixed. DE’s rotation Seymour,Jackson,Dunlap. NT Cody with Seymour playing NT on 3rd down.

O Line is fixed. LT Penn, LG Alberts, C O’Dowd, RG Johnson, RT O’Callahan

WR Bowe,Tate,Floyd and Chambers

RB Jamal Charles and Rashad Jennings

PS—I don’t care how many D linemen we have drafted, this is the solution.

by 102win on Dec 21, 2009 6:58 PM CST reply actions

insane in the membrane

again, Rashad Jennings was a 7th round pick, NO WAY would I send a player and a pick for him.

I don’t see KC signing Seymour, as Oakland would have to be dumber than usual to let their 2011 first round pick walk after 1 year

I don’t see Dorsey getting traded either.

I don’t think Cody is worth a 1st round pick

Other than that, I do like your draft picks pretty well

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers

by stagdsp on Dec 21, 2009 7:15 PM CST up reply actions

Love the enthusiasm and being aggressive to shuffle the roster

I agree that no way trade a player and a pick for Rashad Jennings, even if it is an RB who has hardly ever done anything in the league, Seymour is very unlikely to get out of Oakland, and Tampa Bay would not give up so much for Dorsey and a throw-in.

Interesting picks. You’re adding 12 rookies to the roster, not including probably a couple of post-draft free agents. It’s a bit much, but I agree that they will probably end up with 9-10 rookies to the roster by cut-down in 2010. What’s tough is rapid improvement in a team with so little experience— e.g., you’re starting two rookies on the O-line, would take awhile to get them all on the same page, experienced enough to excel.

Cody’s a huge reach here b/c of weight and conditioning issues (discussed often on previous threads), OTOH my hunch is that Norwood may not last to the 68th pick— might, might not, dunno.

by Wheatboy74 on Dec 21, 2009 9:39 PM CST up reply actions

I agree

Adding that many rookies will be tough, however it is better than the 9 guys we added of the street this year. Really think MY team could go 7-9 in 2010. 11-5 in 2011.

by 102win on Dec 22, 2009 12:44 AM CST up reply actions

Lets see

Dorsey misses a game and we give up record run yardage. So lets trade Dorsey. Brilliant.

You’re fired.

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by KCSatchmo on Dec 22, 2009 9:41 AM CST up reply actions

ha Satch your the man

by tomahawk44 on Dec 22, 2009 9:50 AM CST up reply actions

Well

I think Cody is worth it, he will play in the NFL for many years. Seymour almost didn’t even show up in Oakland, and maybe we have a Pioli connection there to use. Also we have a lot more money to throw at Seymour. Dunlap is the risky pick, but the potential is so high I would gamble. If we did this we would have 4 high first round type guys on our front three!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by 102win on Dec 21, 2009 8:00 PM CST reply actions

Picking Cody at #16

would be about as big a reach as picking Jackson was last year…Not sure Pioli wants to go that route again. I can see him with our second round pick…not a top 20 1st rounder though…but I guess that depends on how his combine and workouts go

by KCCheeze on Dec 21, 2009 9:31 PM CST up reply actions

I'd love to see Cody drop a bunch of weight and come up with great combine measureables

He’d do himself a great favor to dominate in the Senior Bowl, get in shape But he’s had two years at Alabama, dunno if that’s gonna happen. As things stand now, it would be a huge reach. Don’t draft an un-athletic player on potential.

by Wheatboy74 on Dec 21, 2009 9:44 PM CST up reply actions

I'd love a Cheeseburger right now

Cody is eating one imo :)

We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09. Almost there :)
And Succop will be the Key in two of them. Skins & Raiders! Pittsburgh Sweet!
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram

by Steve_Chiefs on Dec 21, 2009 10:33 PM CST up reply actions

Explaining a little

We will just have to wait and see on Cody. He is the most capable of being a game changer on the defensive side of the ball….I believe. Tampa will draft Suh and if they added Dorsey they would be half way to a amazing 4-3 D line. The throw in Morgan might look better (ie: we can’t judge safties) after we gave away Pollard.

Seymour is the key, both for his talent and it would allow us to trade Dorsey. TJack will grow by the minute with Seymour around, as would Dunlap (who has unbelievable talent).

The simple fact is that we will not turn this franchise around w/o MAJOR moves. We basically missed an entire FA and draft in 09

by 102win on Dec 21, 2009 10:05 PM CST reply actions

No Deal

Chiefs do not trade Dorsey and they almost have to draft a NT in day one Cody is a good option because of what he brings, he has good atheticism for a man of his size and he is really strong and virtually unmovable by any one player and most cases possibly 2. if he loses weight he could easily play the entire game without gettting tired which currently is his major issue and a 2 down nose tackle like this can make a defense because 3rd and 7 is a lot more difficult the a 3rd and inches he is simply a run stuffer with a ton of upside anyone watch the browns game

by funfan on Dec 21, 2009 10:31 PM CST up reply actions

Are you rooting for Tampa

How bout figuring a way besides trading Bowe or somebody to get Suh and Dorsey in KC :)

We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09. Almost there :)
And Succop will be the Key in two of them. Skins & Raiders! Pittsburgh Sweet!
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram

by Steve_Chiefs on Dec 21, 2009 10:36 PM CST up reply actions

Cody's amazingly athletic for a man of his bulk.

Could be a dominant force in the NFL for years, if he has the proper attitude. Great 2nd-round value. Fantastic, even. But a reach in the first, unless you have a crystal ball (or balls of steel).

Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.

by hmills110 on Dec 22, 2009 2:53 AM CST up reply actions

i agree we need to go big or go home

problem is..your draft is centered around us getting Seymour…which has about a snowballs chance in hell of happening (raiders aren’t going to give up a 1st round pick for him to play less than a season with the team)

Also it centers around a pretty iffy trade to Tampa who needs picks as bad as we do they aren’t gonna give up both second rounders for that trade.

Also, if tampa wins another game and we don’t, there is a possibility that they pick after us

by KCCheeze on Dec 21, 2009 10:32 PM CST reply actions

True

We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09. Almost there :)
And Succop will be the Key in two of them. Skins & Raiders! Pittsburgh Sweet!
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram

by Steve_Chiefs on Dec 21, 2009 10:37 PM CST up reply actions

Ok ---- But

Seymour is a FA, we are talking about the Raiders. That is why the trade was such a joke, everyone knew he would be a UFA after this season. ( Hello? Raiders…Russell, Huff, McFadden, Heyward-Bey, Gallery). Raiders always have cap probelms, we have a ton of money.

Suh and Dorsey are both better suited for 4-3 defenses. We have a 3-4. If we were a 4-3 team and we were offered Dorsey for our two 2nd rounders, I would do it.

by 102win on Dec 21, 2009 10:50 PM CST reply actions

Waters isn't a center

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by Buck'O on Dec 21, 2009 11:05 PM CST reply actions

Why not?

I heard someone on Soren Petro’s redzone show last week suggest the Chiefs draft Okung, move Albert to LG and Waters to C and improve 3 OL positions with one draft pick. He went so far as to suggest Waters career could be extended and he could be pro bowl caliber at C.

Why don’t you think Waters could play Center?

by chrisclark_dfw on Dec 21, 2009 11:41 PM CST up reply actions