Chiefs Lose to the Browns in a Close Game
41 to 34. Browns win.
This was easily the most entertaining game of the Kansas City Chiefs season, despite the sickening loss. The Chiefs had a great drive to tie the game late but their run defense let them down as they had all day.
On the Browns final drive, Cleveland called six straight running plays. Brady Quinn ran a bootleg for 24-yards and Jerome Harrison capped his historic day with a 28-yard TD run to essentially win the game.
It was a game of ups and downs and unfortunately the Chiefs came up short. We'll have much more for you as the afternoon goes on.
Joel is on his way to the locker room now. Hit him up on Twitter (@ArrowheadPride) with your questions to ask players.
Here are some thoughts on on the game:
The Good
- Jamaal Charles had another career day - 25 rushes, 154 yards and a TD.
- Cassel had one of his best games of the season - 22/40, 331 yards passing, 2 TDs and no INTs. His QB rating was 99.1.
- The Chiefs scored a season high 34 points and had 491 total offensive yards.
- Chris Chambers had 114 yards and a TD in his best game as a Chief.
The Bad
- Drops, again. Jake O'Connell, Dwayne Bowe and Mark Bradley were all culprits.
- No sacks and not much of a pass rush for the Chiefs D. The Browns didn't pass much but there was really no pressure on Quinn all day.
- The Chiefs were 4/13 on third downs. Not a good showing.
The Ugly
- Jerome Harrison of the Browns rushed for a franchise record and nearly an NFL record - 286 yards. The Chiefs gave up 351 yards rushing to the Browns.
- The Chiefs gave up two first half kickoff return TDs to Josh Cribbs. I know he's the best in NFL history - so why not kick away from him for the entire game?
We've got a drive by drive summary of the game after the jump, for those that missed the game.
First Quarter
Browns 1st drive:
Josh Cribbs received the kick around the six and took it to the 24 yard line.
The Browns moved the ball fairly well in their first drive accumulating 4 first downs. They rushed for 27 yards and passed for 19 on the drive. Brady Quinn was long on two deep throws that were incompletes. The drive was 4:47 and took 12 plays. The Browns kicked a 46 yard field goal to end the drive.
Chiefs 1st drive:
Mark Bradley had a nice return to the 28 yard line.
The Chiefs moved the ball fairly well to start the drive hitting Bowe and Cottam on crossing routes. On a first down, Castille took a handoff and was tackled at the line of scrimmage. As he was going down, it looks like the ball was popping out. A Browns player picked it up and the referees ruled it a fumble, Browns ball. The Chiefs challenged the playcall. There really wasn't a definitive camera angle and the call was upheld.
The Browns took over at their own 47 yard line.
Browns 2nd drive:
That was quick. On the third play of the drive, Quinn tried to go deep but was about 10 yards too short and the ball was picked off by Carr. He returned it over 20 yards to the 49 yard line.
Carr was trying to cut back into the middle of the field and wouldn't go down. I think he thought he was a ball carrier.
Chiefs 2nd drive:
On the first play of the drive, Cassel dropped back to pass and couldn't find anyone. He threw the ball at Castille's feet to avoid a sack. On the second play, Cassel dropped back to pass looking at Bradley streaking deep across the middle of the field. Bradley was covered by the safety over the top so he tucked the ball and ran it.
The third play was interesting. Cassel dropped back to pass and threw an absolute duck to Chambers, who had to stop and wait for the ball. It was a jump ball and he came down with it for a 31 yard game.
The Chambers catch put the Chiefs inside the 15 yard line and Cassel over threw an open Charles. The next play Bowe dropped the ball on a slant route. It was definitely catchable.
The Chiefs kicked a field goal from 30 yards out to tie the game.
Six plays, 37 yards, 1:58.
Browns 3rd drive:
Not much of a drive. Cribbs took the return at the goal line and ran 100 yards to the house. There were multiple missed tackles on the return.
This was more the fault of the Chiefs than a credit to Cribbs.
Chiefs 3rd drive:
On 2nd and 10, Cassel dropped back to pass and threw the ball away in Charles' general direction. The refs blew the whistle and called intentional grounding knocking the Chiefs back 14 yards.
Cassel threw it to a running back for a 8 yard gain, then Cassel went deep to Bowe and overthrew it by about 3 yards.
Bad series.
Browns 4th drive:
The Browns started at their own 47 yard line after a 30 yard Colquitt punt.
The Browns had two short runs for 7 yards and entered a 3rd and 3. Quinn sent a man in motion and hit him in the flats for a first down. Travis Daniels was on the coverage. On the next first down, DaJuan Morgan (Yeah, he still plays) tackled the running back for a 7 yard gain.
Poor tackling by the Chiefs - facing a 2nd and 3 from the Chiefs 35 yard line, the Browns running back shot off left tackle and, with a missed tackle, took it to the 21 yard line for a 14 yard gain.
The Browns worked their way inside the 15 yard line and, facing a 3rd and 3, ran a delayed draw out of the shotgun for a gain of one yard. On 4th and 2, the Browns kicked another 30 yard field goal.
Browns 13 Chiefs 3
9 plays, 40 yards, 4:32.
Second Quarter
Chiefs 4th drive:
Two straight Jamaal Charles runs nets the Chiefs a first down. It's nice to see a Chiefs running back running between the tackles and net first downs.
On 1st down, Charles took the carry again for 7 yards. In a hurry up offense, Cassel lined up in shotgun, and handed it off to Charles for another first down.
On 1st down, Cassel made up for his duck he threw to Chambers (but was caught anyway). Cassel lofted an over-the-shoulder pass to Chambers that put the Chiefs at the 9 yard line. Those who critique Cassel's deep ball, take note because he had another very pretty over-the-shoulder catch on the very next play for a Chiefs touchdown.
Chambers and Charles coming up big on that drive.
Chiefs 10 Browns 13
6 plays, 72 yard,s 2:28
Browns 5th drive:
Succop kicked off to the goal line and Cribbs took it to the 28 yard line before being taken down.
First play of the drive is a 7 yard run by Browns RB Harrison. The Chiefs are really having a tough time stopping the run so far today. On the second play, Quinn again went to Harrison who took it up the middle for a first down. He was tackled by the shoe strings - if he hadn't been there was daylight ahead of him.
On first down, Cribbs took the hand off in the wildcat and showed his athleticism leaping over a fallen lineman in a sweep left. He gained four yards.
Jennings took an off tackle right for about four yards on the next play setting up a third down. Gilberry and Jackson were the only down linemen on the play. Quinn's in shotgun and dumps it off to rookie Massaquoi for a two yard gain.
The Browns punted on 4th and 1 and the ball was fair caught by Bradley at the 15 yard line.
Chiefs 5th drive:
It won't show up in the stat box but Charles is running hard today. He took the first play of the drive for four yards off the right tackle. On the second play, Cassel again hit Cottam across the middle of the field. It looked like a skinny post and went for 24 yard gain. On first down, two RBs were in the backfield and Cassel had to instruct them to get into I-formation. He snapped the ball and immediately threw it to Chambers who got five yards on the quick out. On the third play, Cassel faked the hand off and took it on his own for a bootleg. He got five yards for a first down.
On first down, Charles took a sweep left and - remember this play because it's a highlight and my words won't do it justice - cut back inside and used his straight burner's speed to go 47 yards for the score.
Bowe had a great block on the play and was singled out by Todd Haley was a pat on the rear.
Chiefs 17 Browns 13
Browns 6th drive:
The Chiefs kicked off and it was taken to the 21 yard line by Cribbs. Jovan Belcher made another special teams tackle. I can tell why he's a coaching staff favorite. A holding penalty moved the Browns back to their own 11.
The Chiefs are getting stiffer on the run holding Harrison to a 3 yard gain on a sweep. On second down, Quinn dropped back to pass and the pocket became to collapse on him. Dion Gales pressured Quinn and caused him to nearly fumble the ball.
On third down, Quinn hit Harrison in the left flats for an almost first down.
On 4th and 2, the Browns lined up in punt formation. Replays showed the punter didn't call for the snap, it came anyway, and it was mishandled fumbled near the end zone.
Instead of falling on it, the punter tried to pick it up in the end zone. Mike Richardson ran in and landed on the ball and then Browns and Chiefs players began to pile on.
Andy Studebaker then came out of the pile with the ball while the refs were still trying to move guys off the pile to see who had the ball. Studebaker then had to go up to the refs and point to the ball in his hands before the ruled a touchdown.
Chiefs 24 Browns 13
Chiefs 6th drive:
That was the Studebaker special teams touchdown.
Chiefs 24 Browns 13
Browns 7th drive:
That would be Josh Cribbs, 103 yards, on the kickoff return. This guy is amazing and it's not even halftime.
Chiefs 24 Browns 20
Chiefs 7th drive:
Jamaal Charles starts the drive with two consecutive carries netting a first down. On the third play of the series, Cassel hit Bowe on a comeback route for an 8 yard gain.
Cassel lined up in shotgun and handed off to Charles where he took it to the left side of the field. Cassel was following him and threw a block on a Browns defensive lineman. The linebacker, David Bowens, turned around and got in Cassel's face and our QB pushed him back. Nice sense of fight from Cassel there.
Browns 8th drive:
The Browns kneeled the ball once and took it into halftime.
Third Quarter
Chiefs 8th drive:
On the first play, Charles ran for four yards. Cassel threw an incomplete on the second play and on the third play, Bradley dropped an open pass. Ouch.
Colquitt punted to Cribbs where he took it to the 17 yard line. It was a 55 yard punt.
Browns 9th drive:
Sigh.
Harrison runs 11 yards for a first down. Then runs up the gut for 71 yards.
Sigh.
Chiefs 24 Browns 27
Chiefs 9th drive:
Jamaal Charles had a short loss to start off the drive, after Mark Bradley had a short return on the kickoff. Another dish to Charles and he almost gets the first down on a strong run where he fell forward towards the end. He has 106 yards rushing on the day. It's 3rd and 2.
TE Jake O'Connell dropped an easy pass from Cassel in the flat on third down. Chiefs are punting. That was a gut wrencher.
Browns 10th drive:
Nothing really for Cribbs on the return. Browns take over near the twenty yard line.
The Chiefs got the Browns to 3rd and 1 but Jerome Harrison converted the first on a handoff. He's been looking great today.
Brady Quinn throws up a bomb and Brandon Flowers picks it off. That's Quinn's second INT today. The Chiefs take over inside their own 10-yard line.
Chiefs 10th drive:
Jake O'Connell drops another pass from Cassel - this time for a sure 10-12 yard gain.
And another drop. Cassel's high pass to Bowe should have been caught. It would have been a first down. Time to punt. Nothing to show for that INT.
Browns 11th drive:
Not much for Cribbs on the return. He jumped in the air to avoid a tackle and basically fell on the ground.
Harrison was stuffed on first down and Cribbs was stopped short on 3rd and 6. Nice work by the Chiefs' run defense.
Cleveland doesn't really have a passing game today.
Chiefs 11th drive:
The Chiefs took over near their own 8-yard line and Jamaal Charles quickly got them past the 20-yard line with a couple of nice rushes. It's 3rd and 6.
Cassel's pass to Mark Bradley was off the mark. The Chiefs are 1/8 on third downs today. Colquitt time.
Browns 12th drive:
Nothing for Cribbs on the punt return. The Chiefs have actually contained Cribbs almost entirely on punt returns.
Cleveland has put on a slow steady drive, to get deep into Chiefs' territory. Lots of Jerome Harrison as the Browns plug away.
The Browns went for it on 4th and 1 near the 20-yard line and Brady Quinn had a 13-yard run to get within the 10-yard line. On the next play, Jerome Harrison scored a TD. He has 213 yards rushing on the day.
Chiefs 24 Browns 34
Fourth Quarter
Chiefs 12th drive:
Jamaal Charles was the return man. He got near the 20-yard line.
Cassel hit Cottam for a first down near the sideline. Another good catch for Cottam. And another good run for Charles after that - 9 yard run then a second effort short run for the first down. He is our offense.
Huge catch by Chris Chambers on an aired out pass from Cassel. The Chiefs have the ball on the Browns 14-yard line.
Matt Cassel was rushed on second down and threw a ball that should have been picked by the Browns. The Browns defender dropped one of the easiest INTs I've seen this season. That was third down. Ryan Succop put it through for three on the next play.
Browns 34 Chiefs 27
Browns 13th drive:
Ryan Succop tried a pooch kick and the Chiefs nearly recovered the ball thirty yards down the field. There was a scuffle and Andy Studebaker got called for necessary roughness.
Jerome Harrison continues to destroy the Chiefs. He ran for a big first down to give the Browns the ball near the mid-field. Two more rushing plays - another first down for the Browns. He set the record for most rushing yards in a game by a Brown ever.The Chiefs continue to help set records.
The Browns are wearing the Chiefs down run by run. There is 5:30 left in the game and the Browns are plugging along in Chiefs territory.
On third and 6, Josh Cribbs lined up in the wildcat and threw a bomb into the end zone that was broken up by Brandon Carr. Phil Dawson' 52-yard field goal on 4th down is short.
The Chiefs will get the ball back with 4:26 to go.
Chiefs 13th drive:
On first down, on a pass intended for Chambers, Bowe made an incredible catch on the deflection. The Browns challenged and the call was upheld. You could hear the crowd blow up when the ref announced that the play was upheld.
After a Cottam catch and a Charles run, the Chiefs faced third down. Charles busted out a great run on a short flip from Cassel. First down Chiefs inside the twenty.
Cassel hit Pope in the end zone - literally. But the ball was incomplete. Haley's play call on 3rd and 10 was a delayed run to Charles. It only gained four yards.
The Chiefs went for it on fourth down and hit Bradley for a TD. There is 2:20 left in the game.
Chiefs 34 Browns 34
Browns 14th drive:
Succop hit another pooch kick and Cribbs did not touch the ball. The Browns take over near their own 30-yard line.
After a Jerome Harrison run, Brady Quinn did his best Derek Anderson v. the Chiefs impression and rushed for a massive, 24-yard gain on a bootleg to the right side.
And with 46 seconds left in the game, Jerome Harrison rushes for his third TD of the day - 28-yards. He has 286 yards on the day.
Browns 41 Chiefs 34
Chiefs 14th drive:
The drive started off great by Cassel hitting Bradley for a big pass gain near mid field. Another pass near the sidelines set the Chiefs up for one last pass play.
Cassel's 26-yard pass to the end zone hit the cross bar.
Game over.
Browns 41 Chiefs 34
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THE ONLY GAME I WANTED A WIN!
Cassel played like 130+ rating QB.
Charles had another Career Day.
BUT OUR D IS AN EPIC FAIL.
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
RIP Chris Henry #15 (Bengals)
RIP Derrick Thomas #58 (Chiefs)
+1
"Speed...(long pause)....Kills." -- Lenny Dawson (on JC)
I'm shocked at people criticizing Cassel. LMAO. Get a life, people.
"Speed...(long pause)....Kills." -- Lenny Dawson (on JC)
The D should be ashamed of themselves. These are the Clevand Browns FFS
Putrid, ugly, pathetic performance by the D
that's fine...
Another reason to get Romeo in here.
Bullshit
5 seconds wasted away…that would have given us another play and a much better shot at the end of the game.
We deserved to lose with that rush defense, but those refs handed Cleveland the game at the end. Bullshit.
by Nick Britt on Dec 20, 2009 3:17 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Gimme a break you cant blame the refs for this game
Did the refs give up 280 something rushing yards? Did they let Cribbs get 2 returns? Did they make us drop 8-10 balls today? Cleveland thought Bradley fumbled it and so the scramble. We just SUCK. Hey Clancy, if you need help moving your shit outta KC gimme a call!
Read my post
“We deserved to lose with that rush defense”
He said that in context to the finish of the game...
Not the wholre game…context
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They should have put that 5 seconds back on the clock
by Chiefsfan1970 on Dec 20, 2009 3:23 PM CST up reply actions
I don't know that they could have retroactively done it
because cassell had already spiked the ball.
Sure you can...
They affected the outcome of the game by not doing their job. The game is 60 minutes long no matter how poorly you play you should get to play the whole 60 minutes not 59:54.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Dec 20, 2009 3:24 PM CST up reply actions
And 5 yards on a penalty.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Dec 20, 2009 3:18 PM CST up reply actions
How do you figure?
We had 50-60 plays to lose to Cleveland 1 more would’ve done nothing. Refs didn’t blow anything if it was the other way around you guys wouldve loved us falling on the ball. It’s a part of the game
Really?
One more play from their 25 yard line would have done nothing?
by Soria's Unibrow on Dec 20, 2009 3:34 PM CST up reply actions
I'll very rarely pin the outcome of a game on the refs
but if we’re going to split hairs about the calls, that crew had one of the worse PI no-calls I’ve ever seen… defender hanging off Mark Bradley’s arm in the end zone. It was pretty irrelevant… we scored 2 plays later.
Agreed though – they should have called a defensive delay of game and put time back on the clock. Probably still didn’t matter.
The D lost this game today
plain and simple, I’m not even really mad at ST. Cribbs is one of the best out there I can live with that. But who the hell is the Browns RB? I already forget.
OUR RECEIVERS CANT CATCH ALSO
AND OUR ST’s failed for the first time all year.
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
RIP Chris Henry #15 (Bengals)
RIP Derrick Thomas #58 (Chiefs)
Bunch. Of. Losers.
So much for Haley focusing on fundamentals. Two kick offs returned for touchdowns. Nearly 300 yards rushing given up to some no-name RB. Enough dropped passes to make you puke. We make the Browns seem legit. What a sad, sad team we have.
Sure we played like crap and a lot of things led to the loss.
But honestly the refs interfered with the outcome of the game again for probably the third time this season.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
HOW DO YOU GIVE UP 41 TO THE BROWNS??????
THE BROWNS PEOPLE!
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
RIP Chris Henry #15 (Bengals)
RIP Derrick Thomas #58 (Chiefs)
Very carefully...
"You play to win the game." Herm Edwards
Ummm, 70%+ completion percentage
330 yards, 2TD’s no INT’s is a Brees/Brady/Philip Rivers type of day. Get real.
"Speed...(long pause)....Kills." -- Lenny Dawson (on JC)
According to the radio there were 8 drops.
That would make him 30/40 for 75%…
"Speed...(long pause)....Kills." -- Lenny Dawson (on JC)
i have critized cassel
but he played strong today but with that said i feel he should be able to play strong every week and he is yet to show he can play strong every week i like his grit but i fee; he plays inconsistantly reguardless of who you want to blame because there is enough for everyone on the team
lol are you really camparing Cassel to Brees/Brady/Rivers?
he puts up numbers in a loss to the browns where he still made shitty passes and made mistakes…and now he is on their level….LMAO
If he had the defense of any of those 3 teams,
we would have won. Our defense gave up 280+ rushing yards to a scrub. Recognize.
"Speed...(long pause)....Kills." -- Lenny Dawson (on JC)
And Brady's team, this year, isn't going to make the playoffs
Yet Cassel led the same team to 11-5 last year…hmmm…cheeze your drowning
"Speed...(long pause)....Kills." -- Lenny Dawson (on JC)
im not saying talent, im saying if you did a blind taste test and had to guess who put up those stats
those are the kinds of names you’d throw out.
"Speed...(long pause)....Kills." -- Lenny Dawson (on JC)
Great game by Cassel for sure.
Best performance of the season by our QB. It IS the Browns though.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Dec 20, 2009 3:25 PM CST up reply actions
I thought Cassel looked like an alright QB...
with terrible recievers.
I was also moderately impressed with the pass protection today. Then again – it was against the Browns.
Division record is first tie breaker i think
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Dec 20, 2009 3:25 PM CST up reply actions
can some one tell me what just happened
as the game ended last play need a jump ball to the endzone len dawson said and matt cassel throws the ball away out of bounds time expires
i find it hard to believe it was just thrown away but i cant watch it
hit the crossbar
Holy Shit!!!...Peterson resigned...Am I dead?...Is This Heaven?
by RoyalsFanStuckInCardsLand on Dec 20, 2009 3:20 PM CST up reply actions
Well Bradley made that catch on the play before
Then Cleveland picked up the ball and ran and the refs had to chase them down to get the ball. Took about 5 seconds off the clock that shouldn’t have.
Cassel threw up a jump ball and put too much on it. It hit the crossbar but I doubt anyone would have caught it anyway there were like 3 chiefs receivers and 7 browns defenderfs in a clusterfuck in the endzone.
so i was like a throw away
it was just a little deep
well he was trying for a hail mary
but from the 20 yd line…he threw it like 50 yds in the air…a few feet too long for any kind of play
We werent that far away
I would have preferred an actual designed play, not a jump ball.
It is all moot now though.
We should have won
A couple of our FGs should have been touchdowns. And for those blaming the refs for the clock, even though Bradley was down, he needs to hold onto the ball.
That said, our defense and special teams let us down big time. There’s no reason we shouldn’t be able to win with 34 points.
Tyson Jackson, Glenn Dorsey, Demorrio Williams, Corey Mays, Mike Brown, Brandon Carr shouldnt be starters in NFL. I fucking hate that i lvoe this team so much
Ok whoa The Brandons did their job.
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
RIP Chris Henry #15 (Bengals)
RIP Derrick Thomas #58 (Chiefs)
by NJChieffan16 on Dec 20, 2009 3:20 PM CST up reply actions
The Brandons only 'did their job'
because Brady Quinn sucks and they can’t throw the ball. Our corners cant tackle worth shit
They wouldnt have to tackle
if the guys up front were in the least bit competent.
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
RIP Chris Henry #15 (Bengals)
RIP Derrick Thomas #58 (Chiefs)
by NJChieffan16 on Dec 20, 2009 3:36 PM CST up reply actions
Dorsey didnt even play......
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
Definately showed
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
Put up approximately as many tackles at 3-4 DE as Seymour put up in his career year.....
That means he has transitioned well…
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I think he was on track for it....
Probably won’t get quite there now…The difference also is Seymour had some sacks…
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Same reason as today...
Just worse cuz he wasn’t there…not seeing your point…
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I'm refering to those that think that if Dorsey had played today
we would have stopped their running game.
No, probably not...
Need competent linebackers and safeties for that…
But they did run at his vacant spot a lot…
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By the numbers...
The point, sir, is that he is playing well…very well for a man transitioning to that position for the first time….
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I SWEAR WE HAD NEARLY 500 TOTAL YARDS!
AGGGGHHHHH Im so mad. Im sure you all are though.
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
RIP Chris Henry #15 (Bengals)
RIP Derrick Thomas #58 (Chiefs)
Focus on the positive!
We really can’t be much worse…can we?
In wondrous beauty, once again, shall the golden tables stand mid the grass, which the gods had owned in the days of old.
by Chiefs_Ragnarok on Dec 20, 2009 3:20 PM CST reply actions
Ummm.... yes
Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...
by oldchiefsfan on Dec 20, 2009 3:20 PM CST up reply actions
Well then I am depressed
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by Chiefs_Ragnarok on Dec 20, 2009 3:22 PM CST up reply actions
We ask ourselves this question each week.... and the chiefs continue to answer
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
"It can always get worse."
-former Royals manager Buddy Bell
by Soria's Unibrow on Dec 20, 2009 3:43 PM CST up reply actions
We're much closer to success than it appears.
See Data Differently.
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I don't think Pioli can put up with our defensive effort over the last 4 weeks
And I don’t know how we are going to stop Brandon Marshall or Chad Ochocinco.
THE POSITIVES GUYS!
Nearly 500 total Yards
Cassel played like he had some sense
Charles had a career day
Charles had a long run.
We scored a season high 34
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
RIP Chris Henry #15 (Bengals)
RIP Derrick Thomas #58 (Chiefs)
All that is overshadowed
By one of the worst defensive performances I have ever witnessed. And all this talk about our improved rush defense.
We need a NT and some LBs that can tackle. Harrison was untouched on all of those touchdown runs.
And why we kick it to Josh Cribbs — the greatest returnman in NFL history — is beyond me. Haley has some explaining to do.
It definitely hurt not having Dorsey
But they ran it right at Ron Edwards all day and he got manhandled by a rookie (coincidently a guy I was hoping the Chiefs would draft) — Alex Mack from Cal.
Not a coaching fail
Massive talent fail!! All on the players today!
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
by Matt_Grbac on Dec 20, 2009 3:22 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Tell that to the DC
He may believe you.
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
RIP Chris Henry #15 (Bengals)
RIP Derrick Thomas #58 (Chiefs)
by NJChieffan16 on Dec 20, 2009 3:23 PM CST up reply actions
Agree. When your D-line get blown 3 and 4 yards off the ball on every play that is not coaching
I don’t see any coach that could come in with this group of defensive players and make very much improvement
I have been defensive of the coaches
But whoever decided it was ok to kick to Josh Cribbs needs to rethink their career.
Hell yea its easy.
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
RIP Chris Henry #15 (Bengals)
RIP Derrick Thomas #58 (Chiefs)
by NJChieffan16 on Dec 20, 2009 3:23 PM CST up reply actions
Pretty awful effort today...
We should probably just forfeit the next two…
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WRECK

In wondrous beauty, once again, shall the golden tables stand mid the grass, which the gods had owned in the days of old.
by Chiefs_Ragnarok on Dec 20, 2009 3:25 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Agreed...A QB/RB combo with those kind of stats will win a majority of the time.
But of course we’re the Chiefs…
"Speed...(long pause)....Kills." -- Lenny Dawson (on JC)
I can't believe we gave up 2 kickoff returns to give cribbs the record
dante hall is turning over in his grave right now.
he might as well be
who’s gonna remember him now?
wait...he died????
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
RIP Chris Henry #15 (Bengals)
RIP Derrick Thomas #58 (Chiefs)
by NJChieffan16 on Dec 20, 2009 3:29 PM CST up reply actions
lol ok...
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
RIP Chris Henry #15 (Bengals)
RIP Derrick Thomas #58 (Chiefs)
by NJChieffan16 on Dec 20, 2009 3:30 PM CST up reply actions
Surely we have noticed that our O performance is pretty good
but the drops and turnovers need to stop for us to succeed.
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
RIP Chris Henry #15 (Bengals)
RIP Derrick Thomas #58 (Chiefs)
There is one HUGE positive to this game.
Pioli should be able to clearly see where the holes are on this team after this mess.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
Spend money
Get real players for once. This team is just as bad talent-wise as the 08 team
Ralph Wiggum would be a better GM than Dayton Moore
i have critized
but he played strong today but with that said i feel he should be able to play strong every week and he is yet to show he can play strong every week i like his grit but i fee; he plays inconsistantly reguardless of who you want to blame because there is enough for everyone on the team
Cassel looked way more confident today
While not perfect, he still made quicker decisions and avoided collecting sacks
With maybe the worst oline we've fielded all year against a team that had 8 sacks last week.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Dec 20, 2009 3:31 PM CST up reply actions
So guys we are 3-13 and we did one game better than last year and 1 game worse than 2 years ago.
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
RIP Chris Henry #15 (Bengals)
RIP Derrick Thomas #58 (Chiefs)
Did anyone get to watch the game and see if we were putting 8 or 9 in the box?
Seriously, you’re getting gashed by the back, load the box and make them throw it. Isn’t this elementary school?
On the 71 yard TD we had 9 in the box and he went right up the middle through it.
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by GenericBrand on Dec 20, 2009 3:32 PM CST up reply actions
Yes, when you put 8 and 9 in the box to stop the run
and the other team still runs anytime they want for big plays, that has nothing to do with coaching
top receiver back
does ANyone know how many drops bowe had
2 by my count.
Official scoring may be different.
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by GenericBrand on Dec 20, 2009 3:32 PM CST up reply actions
I guess this is a good thing
We didn’t have a chance of trading down for draft picks anyway, so at least we’ll get a stud defender before the browns do.
head to head determines it
browns beat the chiefs, so if we have the same record, we would draft before them.
Not worth spending a high pick on if you ask me.
Bowe and Chambers are a nice start just need to add a reliable slot guy that can get open and a Tight end that can catch or let Cottam play more.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Dec 20, 2009 3:34 PM CST up reply actions
Ultimately,
We have a fantastic second team. Hopefully, Pioli is contacting D coordinators and O Coordinators. Also, when we go into FA and the draft, it will be awesome. Next year we at least double the wins.
lol and get 6 wins?
What you drinkin?
I want some of that.
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RIP Derrick Thomas #58 (Chiefs)
by NJChieffan16 on Dec 20, 2009 3:34 PM CST up reply actions
Just looking at the positive side
We do have a good core group of players. We just need the coaches to match and some good new top talent. I think that next year we will be much better than this year, and that in 2 we will be contenders.
I wish that the Arizona practice squad played games with stats so we’d know who’s going to be coming to the Chiefs in 2010
Ralph Wiggum would be a better GM than Dayton Moore
pope
he did drop a touchdown this year and it was basicaly him for tony g intill we get our pick
who is to say we would get a great 2nd rounder AFTER the season had we kept tony
even more, what the heck would tony be helping us do? win…5 games? he hasnt helped atlanta go beyond .500…..just saying, ill take the 2nd rounder….im glad wemade that trade…
and pope for FREE….who cares where he came from, hes been a BRIGHT SPOT
Lance Long is an upgrade over who?
S/crappy players sure have taken a step down for their heroes. Remember when our best scrappy guy was Marc Boericter and he was actually good?
Ralph Wiggum would be a better GM than Dayton Moore
Forget the positives
We need to focus on what is wrong to fix this! You can’t look at a car with a blown motor and say well it has nice new tires on it…you know. We need to get under the Chiefs “hood” and start to do what is necessary to make this better. Starting with a new DC and some starting FA’s and draft picks.
I don’t care if Cassel threw for 800yrds….our team is not yet complete to compete…it’s all just cosmetics until we fix the D!
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
by Matt_Grbac on Dec 20, 2009 3:34 PM CST via mobile reply actions
one stud
that won’t help we need about 40 new players on this team realisticly to say 13 guys on this team don’t have to worry about their spot next year maybe a lot
This game proves a few things:
Dorsey (as he did at LSU) means a lot to our rush defense.
Cassel is the future
Jamaal Charles is great
We need MLB’s badly
Clancy Pendergast must be replaced by Romeo Crennel. Tonight.
Todd Haley needs to step down as OC. Charlie Weis needs to get on a plane to KC, tonight. Haley’s O was good, but he needs to concentrate on the rest of the game.
by Chief-Eli on Dec 20, 2009 3:35 PM CST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
We haven't stopped anyone running the ball even with Dorsey playing.
So what we would have given up 230 yard rushing today instead of 280 if we had Dorsey?
Sure I can
They were running right up the middle over Edwards and TJs for most of the big runs. Dorsey being there IMO would not have had an affect on the outcome of this game.
Of course he can. Haley just thinks he cant.
and then we lose games.
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
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RIP Derrick Thomas #58 (Chiefs)
by NJChieffan16 on Dec 20, 2009 3:38 PM CST up reply actions
I just love how you said "tonight"
How bout in the next 2 mins?
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by NJChieffan16 on Dec 20, 2009 3:37 PM CST up reply actions
Just put a poll up
Make sure you vote.
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i voted C
based on the offense showing a lot of promise, and the effort i dont have any complaints about. that leaves special teams and of course the defense….or lack thereof.
Just like novocaine. give it time; always works..
The greater the fall, the grander the ascention..
why
is green bay and denver’s new 3-4 defenses great compared to last years 4-3’s, but ours is atrocious?
Just like novocaine. give it time; always works..
The greater the fall, the grander the ascention..
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by GenericBrand on Dec 20, 2009 3:38 PM CST up reply actions
be cee it comes down to talent.
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RIP Derrick Thomas #58 (Chiefs)
by NJChieffan16 on Dec 20, 2009 3:38 PM CST up reply actions
Forget that.
Denver has no more talent on D then we do.
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by GenericBrand on Dec 20, 2009 3:39 PM CST up reply actions
Whitlock has the easiest job ever.
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
RIP Chris Henry #15 (Bengals)
RIP Derrick Thomas #58 (Chiefs)
eaiser than
people making their living betting against the Chiefs?
Ralph Wiggum would be a better GM than Dayton Moore
Defense and KR coverage blew this game
Best performance by the offense all season and that was with Alleman and Richardson starting in there. Drops are an issue every single week so this was nothing new to witness really. It’s always upsetting and the overall WR, and TE position needs to be upgraded next year. We need to have 2 new WR’s and 2 new TE’s on this roster. Cottam had his best game and Chambers played excellent. Charles is becoming a better player week after week, i hope he plays well against 2 playoff caliber teams in Cincy and the Broncos the final 2 weeks.
Our defense looked like a bunch of pedestrians. I’d rather have DJ and Belcher starting. Williams and Mays have played worse the last 3 weeks. They must be replaced, i don’t give a shit how they look in practice that cant shed a blockers cannot explode into the tackler and move the ball carrier backwards. They are backups and special teamers at best.
Defensive coaches have to be fired on the final day of the season.
by cameltoeuchdowns on Dec 20, 2009 3:39 PM CST reply actions
Wasn't much of a defensive game plan problem today.
We put 9 in the box to stop the run and they blow our 9 out of the way and get 300 yards rushing with a RB that had only 300 yards total coming into the game.
Not sure what else the DC could have done today.
i think all of the trade delorsey talk can be squashed now
Thi defensive line looks horrid without him! This is just my opinion of course. But dorsey is a big loss when hi isn’t in there. Especially on rush defense.
by chiefs8288 on Dec 20, 2009 3:42 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I think he should be dealt, I dont see a huge difference this is the same defense with or without him
our needs are at NT/ILB/S….just my opinion but id rather move him and start magee
Because if you can move him and improve your MLB or NT position
that is more important right now. A loss of Dorsey and upgrade to NT or MLB would provided better results on defense.
Agreed...you got to be strong up the middle to have a good 3-4
and that is the weakest part of our defense right now. When you get ran on like we have been. Having Dorsey out isn’t the problem. It points right to your NT, and MLBs
My grade is an F
When you give up 41 points to the Cleveland brown and 300 yards to a running back I’ve never heard of and coached by Eric Mangini, you are the worst team in football.
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by craig in calgary on Dec 20, 2009 3:43 PM CST reply actions
+1
Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...
by oldchiefsfan on Dec 20, 2009 3:45 PM CST up reply actions
I was in denial...
But you are right…today, we were the worst team in football…Defense/ST/WRs
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Yes his numbers were good...
but it was against Clev, we still lost, and the last two weeks he has had a QB rating of 14 and 35….This was a team loss, but cassel has to be more of a leader and be more consistant.
The giant pictures are getting old
Let’s keep them to a minimum.
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I've been resizing them with photobucket in an effort to make them smaller
Did something happen to the site near the end of the game? I couldn’t load the page
especially when
they have nothing to do with the price of beans in china..
Just like novocaine. give it time; always works..
The greater the fall, the grander the ascention..
an f
fuck isn’t there anything worse we made Clevelands offense look like world burnners
One positive to take from this game...
MasterBlaster7 is a kick-arse tallent evaluator….
Last year I begged and pleaded for us to trade up with our 3rd and 4th or next years 2nd for ALEX MACK….
….you know…the guy kept blowing us 4 yards off the ball at the line of scrimage.
…oh no wait…we got Alex McGee…all is well hahaha…he got raped like a shool girl in a super max prison today btw…but wtf do I know about who we should pick haha
I wish Clark Hunt would have prevented that blackout
Lamar Hunt would have never let the Chiefs epic fails go untelevised.
signed,
Dudes who call radio shows and The liquor wholesalers of the Greater Kansas City Metro Area
Ralph Wiggum would be a better GM than Dayton Moore
The worst part?
I KNEW the Chiefs were going to get shredded on the ground, so I started a Browns RB in my semi finals. Yep, Chris Jennings netted me 1 point
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by craig in calgary on Dec 20, 2009 3:47 PM CST reply actions
i think he means
kinda what i meant: effort good, offense good….special teas and defense horrible. even steven. 2 good and 2 bad =right in the middle. C
Just like novocaine. give it time; always works..
The greater the fall, the grander the ascention..
be cee is right
I kind of meant that good+bad averages out to middling. Of course, if I’m going to go strictly by the grading scale, it would be an F.
The offense, even with the drops, had a pretty damn good day – a day that should win most, if not all, games. However, I don’t even have any words to describe the horribleness of the defense. Special teams, while atrocious on the first kickoff return especially, was otherwise good. I’m not exactly sure how that all averages out, but the team, as a whole, does not deserve an F. The defense probably deserves something more like a Y or Z. The offense is probably an A. Special teams gets a C in my book. To me, that doesn’t average out to an F, even with the defense dragging the GPA down.
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Jerome Harrison must have been a really good boy this year, because Clancy Claus just gave him the present of his life.
Epic comment man
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by NJChieffan16 on Dec 20, 2009 4:01 PM CST up reply actions
another brite spot
Succop tied Jan for most made fgs by a rookie was that for the chiefs or in the nfl
Jerome Harrison
may not rush for another 286 yards in his whole career
Not great, but
Charles’ play in the last half of the season is starting to make that Gonzo trade not look quite as bad :/
I'm officially on the 'Draft Eric Berry' train.
Haley-Crennel 2010.
Wasn't Tyson Jackson drafted...
…to be a run stopper? Uggghhh I wish we had Aaron Curry.
"When you get behind in the count," Farnsworth said, "you go with a fastball. That’s what I did there, and that’s what he wants."
Its a common first year DL performance so far...
I feel your pain though…I hate it.
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It’s going to be hard to explain that to people who don’t want to hear it. I’m content with Jacksons job but we have below average NT, serious lacking in Lb’s hard to belame Tyson
Yea, i definately see their point though...
If there is anything I want to see…it would be for him to play MEAN! He is way too cordial…
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C'MON MAN!!!!!!!
WHERES MAI STAR TREK PIKS?!!?
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WHAT!?!?!?!? THEY WERE IN HERE!?!?!?!?
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Oh Mai God!!!!!!!! Where are my beloved pictures!!!!!!!11
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Idk...if they got deleted then that is why...is all i know.
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Now how
about a tackling LB? Unf, I saw Mays miss the gap many times today. At one point, Brown was yelling at him about it.
LJ just rushed for -3 yards...
If that helps anyone…
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yeah
when LJ comes here we may let him break the single day rushing record
We go there...and hopefully you are wrong...
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I guess it's possible...
but I’ve been a pretty good sport about these last three shitty years, but if that happens I may just have to become a rams fan.
If you were going to jump teams
Why on earth would you pick the rams?
I was born in New orleans....
So jumping on the saints badwagon, even though they’ve always been my "second’ team would look shady while they’re playing so well, and living in MO, my other option is STL, and I’m already a cardinals fan.
I also think switching to a team that has won only one game speaks volumes about how bad we are.

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it pretty much the same thing
what are the rams 2 – 12
postive yards for JC
very nice to see JC get positive yards while out running people. I just hope he can last. He is our bright spot.
Cassel needs to work on his touch. Too soft on some, too hard on others, and behind players too often.
well where ever it is i hope i am wrong too
but we let a bum almost do it today
clancy pendergaust should be like the Samurai and fall on his sword
He would be do a lot of us Chiefs fans A favor.
Oh lets see......
How about 286 yards by a nobody RB
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
How about putting 8 and 9 in the box to stop the run and your players still get blown off the ball for 300 yards
What else is a DC to do if your players are just getting manhandled.
I'm not trying to defend Clancy for this season
I just feel like people want 1 person to point to for our problems, rather than saying that the talent on this team is every bit as bad as the coaching. You can bring in the best DC in the NFL, but with these same group of guys we are still going to be one of the worst defenses in the league.
Wouldn’t that partly be put on the guys playing? I’d like Clancy fired or moved from pos anyways he seems to play call too inconsistent. But have to say defensive needs to improve talent as well getting a DC will not improve it alone
He isnt inconsistant in pissing me off, thats for sure
Maybe I just hate the dude, but he seriously needs to GTFO. I would shoot myself in the nipples with a nail gun if Romeo Crennell came here next year.
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Is shooting your own nipples with a nail gun a positive thing? If not would would you like to replace Clancy?
Yes
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how about a LB
who can tackle…brown making too many tackles. our LBers should have been making the tackles

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