Open Thread: Kansas City Chiefs v. Cleveland Browns
by Chris Thorman on Dec 20, 2009 11:42 AM CST
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When: Noon, Arrowhead time
Where: Arrowhead Stadium, Kansas City, MO
Browns on SBN: Dawgs by Nature
- NFL TV distribution maps are here.
- Coverage of the game leading up to now is here.
- Listen to the game online at 101 The Fox (click Listen Live in the upper right corner)
It's the final home game of the 2009 regular season for the Chiefs, and the first blackout since December 16, 1990. It will be tough to get up for this game but I know we have it in us Chiefs fans. This is still the Kansas City Chiefs...
Joel is back in the press box, which is also the last time this press box will be used during a Chiefs game. A new press box is being erected as we speak (or finished, not sure) to keep step with the other structural changes at Arrowhead.
Despite the rough week it's been, we do have Dwayne Bowe's return to look forward too. He's back after a four game suspension.
Get your predictions for the final score in before the game. I'm taking the Chiefs in a medium-scoring game: 16 to 10.
GOOOOOOOOO CHIEFS!!!
Chiefs first defensive drive:
Josh Cribbs received the kick around the six and took it to the 24 yard line.
The Browns moved the ball fairly well in their first drive accumulating 4 first downs. They rushed for 27 yards and passed for 19 on the drive. Brady Quinn was long on two deep throws that were incompletes. The drive was 4:47 and took 12 plays. The Browns kicked a 46 yard field goal to end the drive.
Chiefs first offensive drive:
Mark Bradley had a nice return to the 28 yard line.
The Chiefs moved the ball fairly well to start the drive hitting Bowe and Cottam on crossing routes. On a first down, Castille took a handoff and was tackled at the line of scrimmage. As he was going down, it looks like the ball was popping out. A Browns player picked it up and the referees ruled it a fumble, Browns ball. The Chiefs challenged the playcall. There really wasn't a definitive camera angle and the call was upheld.
The Browns took over at their own 47 yard line.
Chiefs second defensive drive:
That was quick. On the third play of the drive, Quinn tried to go deep but was about 10 yards too short and the ball was picked off by Carr. He returned it over 20 yards to the 49 yard line.
Carr was trying to cut back into the middle of the field and wouldn't go down. I think he thought he was a ball carrier.
Chiefs second offensive drive:
On the first play of the drive, Cassel dropped back to pass and couldn't find anyone. He threw the ball at Castille's feet to avoid a sack. On the second play, Cassel dropped back to pass looking at Bradley streaking deep across the middle of the field. Bradley was covered by the safety over the top so he tucked the ball and ran it.
The third play was interesting. Cassel dropped back to pass and threw an absolute duck to Chambers, who had to stop and wait for the ball. It was a jump ball and he came down with it for a 31 yard game.
The Chambers catch put the Chiefs inside the 15 yard line and Cassel over threw an open Charles. The next play Bowe dropped the ball on a slant route. It was definitely catchable.
The Chiefs kicked a field goal from 30 yards out to tie the game.
Six plays, 37 yards, 1:58.
Chiefs third defensive drive
Not much of a drive. Cribbs took the return at the goal line and ran 100 yards to the house. There were multiple missed tackles on the return.
This was more the fault of the Chiefs than a credit to Cribbs.
Chiefs third offensive drive:
On 2nd and 10, Cassel dropped back to pass and threw the ball away in Charles' general direction. The refs blew the whistely and called intentional grounding knocking the Chiefs back 14 yards.
Cassel threw it to a running back for a 8 yard gain, then Casel went deep to Bowe and overthrew it by about 3 yards.
Bad series.
Chiefs fourth defensive drive:
The Browns started at their own 47 yard line after a 30 yard Colquitt punt.
The Browns had two short runs for 7 yards and entered a 3rd and 3. Quinn sent a man in motion and hit him in the flats for a first down. Travis Daniels was on the coverage. On the next first down, DaJuan Morgan (Yeah, he still plays) tackled the running back for a 7 yard gain.
Poor tackling by the Chiefs - facing a 2nd and 3 from the Chiefs 35 yard line, the Browns running back shot off left tackle and, with a missed tackle, took it to the 21 yard line for a 14 yard gain.
The Browns worked their way inside the 15 yard line and, facing a 3rd and 3, ran a delayed draw out of the shotgun for a gain of one yard. On 4th and 2, the Browns kicked another 30 yard field goal.
Browns 13 Chiefs 3
9 plays, 40 yards, 4:32.
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Lets go Chiefs.
We win 30-27. I hope we win period. We BETTER WIN actually.
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
RIP Chris Henry #15 (Bengals)
RIP Derrick Thomas #58 (Chiefs)
This is the battle
for worst in the AFC.
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by Chris Thorman on Dec 20, 2009 11:05 AM CST up reply actions
Yes and I would like to not be the worst in the AFC.
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
RIP Chris Henry #15 (Bengals)
RIP Derrick Thomas #58 (Chiefs)
by NJChieffan16 on Dec 20, 2009 11:06 AM CST up reply actions
Cleveland has been much better as of late though...
Im actually worried.
You really should get professional help. Your obsession with ND football is not healthy. ---Dr. lookingdeadred
by averagegatsby on Dec 20, 2009 11:46 AM CST up reply actions
Chiefs win!!
3-2. Succop kicks 45 yarder as time expires. Both teams combine for 350 yards of offense, 15 penalties and 5 turnovers. First time in history that the broadcast goes silent as the broadcasters fall asleep.
so the Browns beat us in Arrowhead
20 years ago.
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
RIP Chris Henry #15 (Bengals)
RIP Derrick Thomas #58 (Chiefs)
Entire team just huddle up
Wth Tamba Hali in the middle with his helmet off leading the team in some pre-game hype.
Man we still need to win this. The AFC doormat is supposed to be the Browns. Not us.
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
RIP Chris Henry #15 (Bengals)
RIP Derrick Thomas #58 (Chiefs)
I'm sure there are going to be a lot of "link requests" today
So nobody be too obnoxious about it if nobody emails you within thirty seconds.
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save the negativity
until post game….if need be. right now i say chiefs win big!
Just like novocaine. give it time; always works..
The greater the fall, the grander the ascention..
Reminder
Don’t post links to the game. Thanks.
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That sucks so bad =(
Would certainly eliminate 100 needless posts, probably alot more today.
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
by SuperTurtle on Dec 20, 2009 11:29 AM CST up reply actions
will the chiefs even be able to move the ball on offense today with out givcing up a bunch of sacks
this is the team that got 8 sacks against pittsburg
Charles Draw
We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09. Almost there :)
And Succop will be the Key in two of them. Skins & Raiders! Pittsburgh Sweet!
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
by Steve_Chiefs on Dec 20, 2009 11:35 AM CST up reply actions
Pittsburgh has a pretty shitty line also
That being said, we are missing Waters and Ocallaghan? so we probably will be a little fucked on some passing downs. Running game might be hard to get started also
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
by SuperTurtle on Dec 20, 2009 11:35 AM CST up reply actions
Well we won't let Cleveland punt anyway:)
We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09. Almost there :)
And Succop will be the Key in two of them. Skins & Raiders! Pittsburgh Sweet!
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
by Steve_Chiefs on Dec 20, 2009 11:35 AM CST up reply actions
->>>--------GO CHIEFS--------->
In wondrous beauty, once again, shall the golden tables stand mid the grass, which the gods had owned in the days of old.
by Chiefs_Ragnarok on Dec 20, 2009 11:36 AM CST reply actions
Can someone just bring a prison shank onto the field and eliminate Cribbs?
I mean, seriously. He is going to THRASH us all day long. Maybe Haley has the balls to go to jail for attempted murder…….
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
Someone needs to call up wayne brady
I heard he is excellent at choking a bitch.
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
by SuperTurtle on Dec 20, 2009 11:44 AM CST up reply actions
Im so glad someone else got that
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
by SuperTurtle on Dec 20, 2009 11:46 AM CST up reply actions
So is this guy
You really should get professional help. Your obsession with ND football is not healthy. ---Dr. lookingdeadred
by averagegatsby on Dec 20, 2009 11:52 AM CST up reply actions
this game is probably going to stink like a drunken fart
but at least i get to watch my chiefs on tv this week
Im so excited for the Marty Bowl
You really should get professional help. Your obsession with ND football is not healthy. ---Dr. lookingdeadred
you could understand him?
Just like novocaine. give it time; always works..
The greater the fall, the grander the ascention..
AHAHAHAHHAHahahah
Im playing as GM in Madden and just simulating the games… Well I gave up on the Chiefs when I managed to accumulate 80 million in cap penalties… So I started over learning from my mistakes this time with the Lions… Well its year 2015 and I finally got the Lions to the Super Bowl… And they are playing the Chiefs… Im torn even in the virtual world.
You really should get professional help. Your obsession with ND football is not healthy. ---Dr. lookingdeadred
great minds?
shutters, look above at our posts and the time.
Just like novocaine. give it time; always works..
The greater the fall, the grander the ascention..
need quick fanatasy advice...
Should I start the Bengals D or pickup the Browns with the oline injury/trouble the Chiefs have today…Thoughts?
Yep
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by Chris Thorman on Dec 20, 2009 11:59 AM CST up reply actions
Where?
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
by SuperTurtle on Dec 20, 2009 12:00 PM CST up reply actions
Browns will be a tougher team than the Bills were last week
Honestly I just don’t see the Chiefs winning. Cleveland has a pretty good D and their offense has just put them in tough spots. With Cribbs on fire now this could be a much tougher opponent than the Bills were last week.
Dorsey and Waters inactive too
I don't want no Yo-Yos
by CaptainPoopDeck on Dec 20, 2009 11:56 AM CST reply actions
Afternoon everyone
cheers to the last winnable game of the year. I’m looking at 13 – 10 Chiefs. Something really low like that.
GOOOOO CHIEFS!!!
ALRIGHT BOYS AND GIRLS!!
This is a big one!!! We need this one to show some improvement. Cassell needs to have a good game to get some critics off his back. GO CHIEFS!!
yar what's your email and i'll send it to ya
UCrawford will eventually calm down and realize that Haley isn't a bad coach.
Will embrace the Fire Haley Bandwagon if we lose to the raiders by more then a TD...
..But we aren't going to lose.
LJ will not land in Pittsburgh
The Chiefs will not be the number one pick in this years draft
The Chiefs first pick of the draft will NOT be a OL
Thinks UCrawford just needs a hug... offer is there when you are ready UC :p
better yet if you need it send a email to
UCrawford will eventually calm down and realize that Haley isn't a bad coach.
Will embrace the Fire Haley Bandwagon if we lose to the raiders by more then a TD...
..But we aren't going to lose.
LJ will not land in Pittsburgh
The Chiefs will not be the number one pick in this years draft
The Chiefs first pick of the draft will NOT be a OL
Thinks UCrawford just needs a hug... offer is there when you are ready UC :p
gspaulding@gmail.com
"The first step to penetration... must not be lateral"
-Confucius, in contrary to Glenn Dorsey lining up in the 2-tech
by ArrowSpread on Dec 20, 2009 12:06 PM CST up reply actions
Being a ND apologist...
I really hope Brady Quinn has a successful career… Just hope it begins tomorrow.
You really should get professional help. Your obsession with ND football is not healthy. ---Dr. lookingdeadred
Interesting
The Browns threw a pass to a receiver near the sidelines and he was quickly pushed out of bounds. Haley had the red challenge flag in his hand and was looking up to the booth. No challenge.
idiot ref
or idiot coach for not challenging when the other team was quickly trying to snap it so he couldn’t challenge (usually a good indication that it was a bad call and the benefiting team knew it)
I don't want no Yo-Yos
by CaptainPoopDeck on Dec 20, 2009 12:08 PM CST up reply actions
Well that didn't take long for Todd Haley to make his first mistake
I don't want no Yo-Yos
by CaptainPoopDeck on Dec 20, 2009 12:06 PM CST reply actions
Browns just marching down the field
Christ.
"The first step to penetration... must not be lateral"
-Confucius, in contrary to Glenn Dorsey lining up in the 2-tech
Even with Dorsey out
the Browns have still been exclusively running it right at Tyson Jackson and getting their way
I don't want no Yo-Yos
by CaptainPoopDeck on Dec 20, 2009 12:09 PM CST reply actions
Nice stop for the D
We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09. Almost there :)
And Succop will be the Key in two of them. Skins & Raiders! Pittsburgh Sweet!
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
3rd and 10
Crowd gets as loud as it can, Brady Quinn felt a little heat, throws it deep to rookie Massamaquoi (sp?). Ball was about 3 feet past him. Incomplete.
I predict a block
You really should get professional help. Your obsession with ND football is not healthy. ---Dr. lookingdeadred
prediction fail
You really should get professional help. Your obsession with ND football is not healthy. ---Dr. lookingdeadred
by averagegatsby on Dec 20, 2009 12:10 PM CST up reply actions
Bradley was a return guy in training camp
by Joel Thorman on Dec 20, 2009 12:11 PM CST up reply actions
we may never know
You really should get professional help. Your obsession with ND football is not healthy. ---Dr. lookingdeadred
by averagegatsby on Dec 20, 2009 12:12 PM CST up reply actions
Looks like I won't be able to follow the game on here
The online stream is way behind you guys.
by Soria's Unibrow on Dec 20, 2009 12:11 PM CST reply actions
OPTIMISM FTW!
You really should get professional help. Your obsession with ND football is not healthy. ---Dr. lookingdeadred
by averagegatsby on Dec 20, 2009 12:12 PM CST up reply actions
he's not gonna cut it till he gets to his first Pro Bowl
You really should get professional help. Your obsession with ND football is not healthy. ---Dr. lookingdeadred
by averagegatsby on Dec 20, 2009 12:13 PM CST up reply actions
BRING ON FREEP!
In wondrous beauty, once again, shall the golden tables stand mid the grass, which the gods had owned in the days of old.
by Chiefs_Ragnarok on Dec 20, 2009 12:13 PM CST reply actions
fearless freep! that's my boy!
The only players I hurt with my words are the ones who have an inflated opinion of their ability. I can't worry about that.
Bill Parcells
Knowledge is confidence. And confidence lets you play fast.
Bill Parcells
Right things for wrong reasons?
Critical of Quinn for those passes down the sideline. Flowers got a strong jam against #11 on both those passes. The jam on the 2nd one is probably why it was overthrown.
Chiefs will be able to get pressure all day, it seems to me.
Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.
we need to force quinn to make
some mistkaes – which he hasnt as of lately. believe it or not they ahve a pretty good offensive line
Paint ya shirt red like a Kansas City Chief
Edwards and Jackson getting penetration.
Edwards definitely overpowered at the point in straight-ahead plays, though.
Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.
i love the commercial
with the steelers fan then they go to the pickup truck bubble and itrs chiefs fans like celebrating..always gets me
Paint ya shirt red like a Kansas City Chief
The dude in the Cassel jersey doing the running man
Cracks me up every time.
by Soria's Unibrow on Dec 20, 2009 12:14 PM CST up reply actions
We don't want to put the game into the hands of our QB?
Wow, that is not a good sign.
by Soria's Unibrow on Dec 20, 2009 12:14 PM CST reply actions
Anyone wanting a link reply to this post
PLEASE put your email in THIS box or i wont be able to follow link
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
FACK!!!! nvr mind, link just went down
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
by SuperTurtle on Dec 20, 2009 12:15 PM CST up reply actions
so far
they held after getting pushed down the field…..couldnt believe that inactive list…then seeing bradley on kick returns wow
Nice stiff-arm.
Bradley beat 2 guys 1-on-1. Good sign.
Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.
what happened to o'callaghan?
The only players I hurt with my words are the ones who have an inflated opinion of their ability. I can't worry about that.
Bill Parcells
Knowledge is confidence. And confidence lets you play fast.
Bill Parcells
i know. that's why i'm asking what happened to him
The only players I hurt with my words are the ones who have an inflated opinion of their ability. I can't worry about that.
Bill Parcells
Knowledge is confidence. And confidence lets you play fast.
Bill Parcells
pulled a hammy practicing punt returns
You really should get professional help. Your obsession with ND football is not healthy. ---Dr. lookingdeadred
by averagegatsby on Dec 20, 2009 12:16 PM CST up reply actions
Not sure
A late addition to the injury report.
by Joel Thorman on Dec 20, 2009 12:16 PM CST up reply actions
Naw, we didn't miss him at all...
In wondrous beauty, once again, shall the golden tables stand mid the grass, which the gods had owned in the days of old.
by Chiefs_Ragnarok on Dec 20, 2009 12:16 PM CST reply actions
I missed that guy
You really should get professional help. Your obsession with ND football is not healthy. ---Dr. lookingdeadred
Deebo?
You really should get professional help. Your obsession with ND football is not healthy. ---Dr. lookingdeadred
by averagegatsby on Dec 20, 2009 12:18 PM CST up reply actions
Cassel play actioned
Was looking deep but checked down to an open Charles for 8 yards down the right sideline.
AWESOME
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
by SuperTurtle on Dec 20, 2009 12:17 PM CST up reply actions
Play action again
First down (!) to Cottam across the middle. He was streaking right and pushed out of bounds.
Cassel threw it
and Brad Cottam. See what I did.
In wondrous beauty, once again, shall the golden tables stand mid the grass, which the gods had owned in the days of old.
by Chiefs_Ragnarok on Dec 20, 2009 12:17 PM CST reply actions
cottam looks like a guy who's 6'7"...oh wait
The only players I hurt with my words are the ones who have an inflated opinion of their ability. I can't worry about that.
Bill Parcells
Knowledge is confidence. And confidence lets you play fast.
Bill Parcells
Help!
I’m in Iraq and this thread is my only way of what’s going on with the Chiefs. Somebody. ANYBODY. PLAY BY PLAY, PLEASE!
FUMBALIA
In wondrous beauty, once again, shall the golden tables stand mid the grass, which the gods had owned in the days of old.
by Chiefs_Ragnarok on Dec 20, 2009 12:18 PM CST reply actions
it did...
im guessing that hit right before he hit the ground jarred it loose
by jd_sundevil on Dec 20, 2009 12:20 PM CST up reply actions
Wow this is a strange play
Castille took the handoff and was being tackle around the line of scrimmage. As he went down, it looks like the ball came out and dropped right into the Browns defenders’ hands.
The Chiefs are challenging it.
But maybe there's an Angel
/prays
In wondrous beauty, once again, shall the golden tables stand mid the grass, which the gods had owned in the days of old.
by Chiefs_Ragnarok on Dec 20, 2009 12:19 PM CST up reply actions
unbelievable how we shoot ourselves in the foot. uncanny
The only players I hurt with my words are the ones who have an inflated opinion of their ability. I can't worry about that.
Bill Parcells
Knowledge is confidence. And confidence lets you play fast.
Bill Parcells
he was down
looks like they ripped it out after he was down
Challenge?
Chiefs lose it; this is even without seeing anything! It is just what happens to teams in KC’s position
Most teams lose their challenge
You really should get professional help. Your obsession with ND football is not healthy. ---Dr. lookingdeadred
by averagegatsby on Dec 20, 2009 12:21 PM CST up reply actions
I overturned your mom without any conclusive proof
Sorry, couldnt help it
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
by SuperTurtle on Dec 20, 2009 12:21 PM CST up reply actions
The knewe was down before I saw the ball come out
Unfortunatly, not enough to overturn.
Freakin’ refs!
*My opinions are subject to change.
He might have
but you’ve got to hold on to the ball, don’t give the refs a chance to job you, you know?
All I want in my my Low Tidings boot
is a TD in the 1st Quarter. Please Poseidon, hear my plea.
In wondrous beauty, once again, shall the golden tables stand mid the grass, which the gods had owned in the days of old.
by Chiefs_Ragnarok on Dec 20, 2009 12:22 PM CST reply actions
I agree that they couldn't overturn... But the ref was completely full of shit...
It was not confirmed it was inconclusive… Its total bullshit that the ref said that the replay proved the ball came out before the knee went down because you couldn’t see that.
You really should get professional help. Your obsession with ND football is not healthy. ---Dr. lookingdeadred
There is nothing wrong with saying the replay was inconclusive...
they used to say that.
You really should get professional help. Your obsession with ND football is not healthy. ---Dr. lookingdeadred
by averagegatsby on Dec 20, 2009 12:24 PM CST up reply actions
On my t.v., it depends on whether that shadow outside Castille's hip is the ball, or not.
The speed with which the defender reacted suggests that shadow was the football. Could be wrong.
Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.
POSEIDON has not forsaken us
In wondrous beauty, once again, shall the golden tables stand mid the grass, which the gods had owned in the days of old.
by Chiefs_Ragnarok on Dec 20, 2009 12:24 PM CST up reply actions
What a terrible throw
You really should get professional help. Your obsession with ND football is not healthy. ---Dr. lookingdeadred
it was a perfect pass to carr
The only players I hurt with my words are the ones who have an inflated opinion of their ability. I can't worry about that.
Bill Parcells
Knowledge is confidence. And confidence lets you play fast.
Bill Parcells
nah... It was a little underthrown for Carr...
but the target was way overthrown.
You really should get professional help. Your obsession with ND football is not healthy. ---Dr. lookingdeadred
by averagegatsby on Dec 20, 2009 12:25 PM CST up reply actions
sweet
We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09. Almost there :)
And Succop will be the Key in two of them. Skins & Raiders! Pittsburgh Sweet!
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
Ah well, at least he got it and didnt fumble
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
by SuperTurtle on Dec 20, 2009 12:24 PM CST up reply actions
THAT would piss me off
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
by SuperTurtle on Dec 20, 2009 12:24 PM CST up reply actions
I thuoght for sure he was going to do his Tiki Barber circa 2004 impression
You really should get professional help. Your obsession with ND football is not healthy. ---Dr. lookingdeadred
by averagegatsby on Dec 20, 2009 12:24 PM CST up reply actions
WOOOO!
Damn you MFers that are a play ahead of the internet radio stream!
"The first step to penetration... must not be lateral"
-Confucius, in contrary to Glenn Dorsey lining up in the 2-tech
nice pick
Terrible challenge. Arrowhead is pathetic.
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Dec 20, 2009 12:25 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Whoa, there!!!!!! In depth analysis overload!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
by SuperTurtle on Dec 20, 2009 12:26 PM CST up reply actions
hows that prediction
of regretting cutting LJ going?
You really should get professional help. Your obsession with ND football is not healthy. ---Dr. lookingdeadred
by averagegatsby on Dec 20, 2009 12:26 PM CST up reply actions
Whats up everyone?
Blackouts suck.
Hali, Johnson, Vrable, Mays, Williams, Studebaker, Belcher
-Come Get Some-
Carr - In my franchise Madden team - leads the league in INT
Predictions as of 06.24.2009.
Larry Johnson will be a top 3 fantasy pick once again in 2010 (after a monster season in 2009.)
Dwayne Bowe will be a 2009 Pro Bowl selection.
Brandon Flowers will have at least 6 INTs in 2009 season.
Todd Haley will have a sideline shouting match caught on TV yelling at one of his asst. coaches.
by 58 was my friend on Dec 20, 2009 12:26 PM CST reply actions
Yeah he is a beast in my league too. lol
Hali, Johnson, Vrable, Mays, Williams, Studebaker, Belcher
-Come Get Some-
by Chiefsfan85 on Dec 20, 2009 12:26 PM CST up reply actions
He threw it into the ground
on purpose, thjat’s what you do when they read/bust a screen pass to the HB
is the sun Cassel's face?
Predictions as of 06.24.2009.
Larry Johnson will be a top 3 fantasy pick once again in 2010 (after a monster season in 2009.)
Dwayne Bowe will be a 2009 Pro Bowl selection.
Brandon Flowers will have at least 6 INTs in 2009 season.
Todd Haley will have a sideline shouting match caught on TV yelling at one of his asst. coaches.
by 58 was my friend on Dec 20, 2009 12:26 PM CST reply actions
Is that what you meant or is that a typo?
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
by SuperTurtle on Dec 20, 2009 12:27 PM CST up reply actions
Private Pyle!?!
Whats that?!?! WTF IS THAT?!?!?!?
In wondrous beauty, once again, shall the golden tables stand mid the grass, which the gods had owned in the days of old.
by Chiefs_Ragnarok on Dec 20, 2009 12:26 PM CST reply actions
TERRIBLE THROW AND CATCH FTW!!!
You really should get professional help. Your obsession with ND football is not healthy. ---Dr. lookingdeadred
Gleefully eating my own words.
Chambers DOES make the up-for-grabs catch. But notice, as I have said, that he caught that ball in his stomach and did NOT meet it at its highest point.
Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.
man...
If Cassel could have had one more half second… TD!
You really should get professional help. Your obsession with ND football is not healthy. ---Dr. lookingdeadred
another drop....another fg
Hali, Johnson, Vrable, Mays, Williams, Studebaker, Belcher
-Come Get Some-
yet was still probably Cassel's fault somehow
You really should get professional help. Your obsession with ND football is not healthy. ---Dr. lookingdeadred
by averagegatsby on Dec 20, 2009 12:30 PM CST up reply actions
he missed Charles wide open on 2nd down :/
I don't want no Yo-Yos
by CaptainPoopDeck on Dec 20, 2009 12:30 PM CST up reply actions
with a defender all up in his grill
conceivably couldn’t even see Jamaal.
You really should get professional help. Your obsession with ND football is not healthy. ---Dr. lookingdeadred
by averagegatsby on Dec 20, 2009 12:31 PM CST up reply actions
watch the play again and you'll see
he was looking at Charles the entire time. He did a little hop in the pocket before throwing it. If he cut out that motion and stepped into the throw he would have had. Indecision made him miss the throw and he still got hit
I don't want no Yo-Yos
by CaptainPoopDeck on Dec 20, 2009 12:32 PM CST up reply actions
watched it again... Still had defender running full speed at him hitting him as he released the ball
You really should get professional help. Your obsession with ND football is not healthy. ---Dr. lookingdeadred
by averagegatsby on Dec 20, 2009 12:33 PM CST up reply actions
I didn't say he didn't...
He needs to cut out that hop and he has time to make a clean throw
I don't want no Yo-Yos
by CaptainPoopDeck on Dec 20, 2009 12:34 PM CST up reply actions
Nope
Shitty catch, could have been a better throw too though, look back at the tivo, that thing was nowhere close to a spiral. He’s got to throw a better ball, but Bowe has to catch that.
exactly everything is Cassel's fault...
The Chiefs records… All the Drops… Global Warming…
You really should get professional help. Your obsession with ND football is not healthy. ---Dr. lookingdeadred
by averagegatsby on Dec 20, 2009 12:32 PM CST up reply actions
Hard to see, but it looked like a DB had him by the ankles before the ball got there.
Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.
Dwayne Bowe fail
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
Cassal ALWAYS hops right before he throws it
if he didn’t hop on second down and threw it and stepped into the hit it would have been a TD
I don't want no Yo-Yos
by CaptainPoopDeck on Dec 20, 2009 12:30 PM CST reply actions
Close call. From 1st angle it just looked like it was disrupted by the pressure.
On the 2nd, it did look like Cassel had more room and time for that throw. When the ball was in the air it seemed like Charles was running in quicksand. Really expected him to have 3 yards on the LB and that’s pretty much where Cassel put it. Telephoto angles from across the field can deceive me, though.
Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
by SuperTurtle on Dec 20, 2009 12:31 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Points after Turnovers......
Only 3, but better than punting.
by Moebuis on Dec 20, 2009 12:31 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
+1
Hali, Johnson, Vrable, Mays, Williams, Studebaker, Belcher
-Come Get Some-
by Chiefsfan85 on Dec 20, 2009 12:31 PM CST up reply actions
Every time i see the way the ball comes out when Cassell throws it I have more and more doubt about him being the franchise
Bowe
Should have caught that, that was a bad drop
if you look at the replay it was thrown behind him and he had to trist backwards and tripped at teh same time
not a good throw or a good catch
Cassel has looked OK so far
except his last 3 passes. The underthrow to Chambers, overthrowing Charles, then throwing behind Bowe in the endzone. He just needs to get accurate.
look at the replay from behind cassel
Bowe was tristing t try and catch the ball thrown behind him…sure he could have caught it but it would have been a great catch
Wrap up.
Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.
Barkley agrees
You really should get professional help. Your obsession with ND football is not healthy. ---Dr. lookingdeadred
by averagegatsby on Dec 20, 2009 12:36 PM CST up reply actions
Another record given up...
Hali, Johnson, Vrable, Mays, Williams, Studebaker, Belcher
-Come Get Some-
Is it just me
or did that look staged? How can anyone be that hard to tackle? I’m not buying it, but w/e
In wondrous beauty, once again, shall the golden tables stand mid the grass, which the gods had owned in the days of old.
by Chiefs_Ragnarok on Dec 20, 2009 12:33 PM CST reply actions
I didn't give you permission to use my image!
In wondrous beauty, once again, shall the golden tables stand mid the grass, which the gods had owned in the days of old.
by Chiefs_Ragnarok on Dec 20, 2009 12:35 PM CST up reply actions
About 5 Chiefs on the ground during that return.
And one Brown sitting on top of one.
These Chiefs just don't represent this franchise
Can’t honor DT and now there goes Dante Hall’s record
I don't want no Yo-Yos
by CaptainPoopDeck on Dec 20, 2009 12:33 PM CST reply actions
This puts KC offense right back on the field.
They were moving it well. Could work to the Browns’ disadvantage.
Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.
yo cribbs
is amazing. for real. can we get him on our team?
Paint ya shirt red like a Kansas City Chief
Short-term owie.
But I feel pretty good about KC matching up with these guys.
Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.
Punch the CHODE
In wondrous beauty, once again, shall the golden tables stand mid the grass, which the gods had owned in the days of old.
by Chiefs_Ragnarok on Dec 20, 2009 12:37 PM CST up reply actions
usually scoring on special teams means you will win =(
The only players I hurt with my words are the ones who have an inflated opinion of their ability. I can't worry about that.
Bill Parcells
Knowledge is confidence. And confidence lets you play fast.
Bill Parcells
I already posted above
but it seemed awfully, awfully fishy. Watching the replay makes me feel even more suspicious. I won’t beat this horse again, but I’m telling you that was staged.
In wondrous beauty, once again, shall the golden tables stand mid the grass, which the gods had owned in the days of old.
by Chiefs_Ragnarok on Dec 20, 2009 12:39 PM CST up reply actions
I feel like Cox is a wasted uniform, sometimes.
Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.
He's gone after this year...
He played with Gailey at Georgia Tech, and since he isn’t very good there is no reason to keep him
You really should get professional help. Your obsession with ND football is not healthy. ---Dr. lookingdeadred
by averagegatsby on Dec 20, 2009 12:38 PM CST up reply actions
Charles needs more pick 'n' roll in his game.
That’s what Cassel expected in that situation. I put that grounding on Charles.
Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.
check the site channel surfing net
for those interested in watching the game over the net
is it me? or isn't about time the Lamar Hunt trophy belonged to His team?
This Chiefs team is closer to a new expansion team than it is a playoff contender, your expectations should match that.
they claim charles was blocking and not out to catch, and...they are right, charles was blocking
cassel just didnt know
Doesn't matter. In that situation, Charles should know to release and go for the screen.
Needs more street-ball in his game in that situation, imo. Cassel “got it.” Marshall Faulk would’ve gotten it.
Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.
Charles was holding and should've released for the nicely executed screen.
Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.
That reception is the ONLY reason to have Cox on the field.
Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.
im sick of it being 3rd and infinity.....all season.
Hali, Johnson, Vrable, Mays, Williams, Studebaker, Belcher
-Come Get Some-
Thats a terrible fucking call
it doesn’t matter if the guy was looking for the ball or blovking or not…he was an eligible receiver and cassel was throwing to him…fucking scrub refs in the NFL
this is awful
chiefs amaze me every week with just how bad they are.
Awesome 12 yard punt there
You really should get professional help. Your obsession with ND football is not healthy. ---Dr. lookingdeadred
see we looked so good, then that fumble crumbled our team, its sad really...
now they have field position
You mean another embarassment
Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...
by oldchiefsfan on Dec 20, 2009 12:41 PM CST up reply actions
More and More Cassel is looking like a bad pickup.
I want to blame the O Line and droped passes, but as more of the season goes along and I see the bad decisions/plays that are 100% his fault…..
GO CHIEFS!
he had all day to throw that pass to Bowe
You expect an nfl qb to be able to consistently make those throws. Cassel and the deep ball are not his game…
I don't want no Yo-Yos
by CaptainPoopDeck on Dec 20, 2009 12:41 PM CST up reply actions
yeah im getting to my breaking point with cassel. he takes too long to throw, makes stupid decisions, and cant throw the ball downfield for shit
by dwill_pittst on Dec 20, 2009 12:42 PM CST up reply actions
you just described Drew Brees' play last night
Just sayin’….
I'm not a Cassel fan or a Tamba Hali Fan or a Jamaal Charles fan. I'm a fan of the Kansas City Chiefs.
A lot of it has to do with the line.
The Saints line did a terrible job last night, and it showed in the QB play.
I'm not a Cassel fan or a Tamba Hali Fan or a Jamaal Charles fan. I'm a fan of the Kansas City Chiefs.
Well, his line has been doing well EVERY GAME
And they took a night off and Brees was way off.
I'm not a Cassel fan or a Tamba Hali Fan or a Jamaal Charles fan. I'm a fan of the Kansas City Chiefs.
Exactly
and he has had the same the same receivers all year
by badassz1987 on Dec 20, 2009 12:46 PM CST up reply actions
yeah but our line has been playing better and cassel has been playing worse
by dwill_pittst on Dec 20, 2009 12:46 PM CST up reply actions
but our receivers SUCK and they are different guys every week
by badassz1987 on Dec 20, 2009 12:48 PM CST up reply actions
our receivers do drop a lot of balls but how many times do we have to watch cassel overthrow a wide open receiver, or tuck the ball and try to run instead of looking for someone open
by dwill_pittst on Dec 20, 2009 12:50 PM CST up reply actions
A crappy line playing better is still a crappy line.
I'm not a Cassel fan or a Tamba Hali Fan or a Jamaal Charles fan. I'm a fan of the Kansas City Chiefs.
he has had time on plenty of plays that he made nothing out of
by dwill_pittst on Dec 20, 2009 12:50 PM CST up reply actions
the difference is, they have a guard named nicks that they took LATE that is better than our entire line, people think albert is good? no...no....he has talent...big difference....we stink
today he has to PROTECT THE BALL, how do you do that with waters and ocall out and they are our best OL right now
what was that? a ten yard punt?
The only players I hurt with my words are the ones who have an inflated opinion of their ability. I can't worry about that.
Bill Parcells
Knowledge is confidence. And confidence lets you play fast.
Bill Parcells
Let me stick this bullet in my gun
and see if i live to see another day
don't do it! We have so much to look forward too!
More years with Cassel
Top five draft pick wasted on a player that takes 5 plus years to develop
Vet Free Agents that are over 35 years of age
Hali, Johnson, Vrable, Mays, Williams, Studebaker, Belcher
-Come Get Some-
by Chiefsfan85 on Dec 20, 2009 12:42 PM CST up reply actions
cassel sucks
Been telling you all since we traded for him. Looks worse in person
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Dec 20, 2009 12:41 PM CST via mobile reply actions
i'm pissed
i was exxcited when we got him, the i saw how bad he is and people wanted to say I wAs crazy and cassel was god…..now you see
We'll let you get a better drsft pick
If you let us add to Josh’s trade value. K thx.
In wondrous beauty, once again, shall the golden tables stand mid the grass, which the gods had owned in the days of old.
by Chiefs_Ragnarok on Dec 20, 2009 12:42 PM CST reply actions
So guys. Hows it going.
Are you ready to pull your hair out?
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
RIP Chris Henry #15 (Bengals)
RIP Derrick Thomas #58 (Chiefs)
the chiefs had to put
Santa claus and random fans “from the parking lot” to get the crowd to cheer. Pathetic
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Dec 20, 2009 12:45 PM CST via mobile reply actions
KC Fan Base
Should win some sort of a award for how much of us still follow this team even with the type of on the field product that they have.
GO CHIEFS!
Im sure Lions fans really "feel" our pain
You really should get professional help. Your obsession with ND football is not healthy. ---Dr. lookingdeadred
by averagegatsby on Dec 20, 2009 12:46 PM CST up reply actions
Quick stats...
Cassel: 6 out of 10 for 86 yards
Charles: 8 yards rushing
Hali, Johnson, Vrable, Mays, Williams, Studebaker, Belcher
-Come Get Some-
Yup
And a couple of interior backers. Our front seven is getting pushed around. D Williams is all of 235, that’s not going to cut it with a light nose tackle.
a little late
Some one wrote a blog that it’s not all cassels fault for over throws hailey should change his play calls to suit Cassel so are we suppose to except that he can’t hit bowe on a post route and over threw it
CAN SOME1 Tell me why we arent running the ball more?
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
RIP Chris Henry #15 (Bengals)
RIP Derrick Thomas #58 (Chiefs)
no kidding.
obviously our receivers can’t catch
UCrawford will eventually calm down and realize that Haley isn't a bad coach.
Will embrace the Fire Haley Bandwagon if we lose to the raiders by more then a TD...
..But we aren't going to lose.
LJ will not land in Pittsburgh
The Chiefs will not be the number one pick in this years draft
The Chiefs first pick of the draft will NOT be a OL
Thinks UCrawford just needs a hug... offer is there when you are ready UC :p
The deep ball
has got to be a threat, otherwise the safeties creep up and we can’t run or throw intermediate routes. Even though we can’t complete them, we still need to throw them every now and then.
I'll give you a 60 million plus reason..
Hali, Johnson, Vrable, Mays, Williams, Studebaker, Belcher
-Come Get Some-
by Chiefsfan85 on Dec 20, 2009 12:49 PM CST up reply actions
Pitt has lost 5 in a row... They aren't good... At all
You really should get professional help. Your obsession with ND football is not healthy. ---Dr. lookingdeadred
by averagegatsby on Dec 20, 2009 12:53 PM CST up reply actions
Well this is looking like the Bills game. They will run all over us.
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
RIP Chris Henry #15 (Bengals)
RIP Derrick Thomas #58 (Chiefs)
pretty sure we are the worst team in the NFL
no passion. no luck. no talent. nothing to even look forward too it seems.
Would ya like a free NANAA!
by Jazzy Megalodon on Dec 20, 2009 12:51 PM CST reply actions
HYPERBOLE FOR THE WIN!!!
You really should get professional help. Your obsession with ND football is not healthy. ---Dr. lookingdeadred
by averagegatsby on Dec 20, 2009 12:53 PM CST up reply actions
we are terrible
if we played the teams we beat again now i honestly feel we would lose
agreed!
Would ya like a free NANAA!
by Jazzy Megalodon on Dec 20, 2009 12:51 PM CST up reply actions
minus pitt
Hali, Johnson, Vrable, Mays, Williams, Studebaker, Belcher
-Come Get Some-
by Chiefsfan85 on Dec 20, 2009 12:52 PM CST up reply actions
Bradley
Returning Kicks…………………..Its like a retard trying to tie his shoes. It wont work.
New thread is up
Head there now:
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2009/12/20/1209723/joshua-cribbs-returns-a-kickoff
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about time its been all year
if we where bad but as the season went on we showed steps in the right direction not even winning just positive signs of improvement i would be ok but we can’t this team is just as bad as week one if not worse
I'll give Cassal props on that
He had all day to throw but atleast he hit the deep ball
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by CaptainPoopDeck on Dec 20, 2009 12:56 PM CST reply actions
Is anyone watching the game online?
If so can you send me the link? CHAMBERS!!!!!!
Proud resident of Kansas City MO
Way to catch the ball Chambers...
Perfectly thrown ball
Brittany murphy just died
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by Jazzy Megalodon on Dec 20, 2009 1:36 PM CST reply actions
Forgive me...
…I scanned these comments, but didn’t see anything mentioned, so I apologize if someone else said it in here or in another thread, but I wanted to point this out:
During a moment of silence for the late Chris Henry, just before kickoff today, a fan yelled “Don’t drop the easy ones, Bowe!” and Bowe responded by giving the finger. I thought this was an embarrassing move on both folks’ parts. Our fan base isn’t always the classiest, but to take advantage of a moment of silence to criticize a player was unfortunate. For our number-one receiver, coming back from a four-game suspension, to give such a lame, knee-jerk reaction, was also very disappointing. Everyone’s frustrated, but a little restraint goes a long way. Also, I noticed that KCinAZ happened to say that he does “usually drop the easy ones,” which lended a tiny bit of humor to the thing. I think.
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