Could Ndamukong Suh be a Nose Tackle in a 3-4?
by A true chiefs fan on Dec 15, 2009 1:09 PM CST
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If you watched the Big 12 Championship game or any Nebraska game this year them you know that Ndamukong Suh is just a beast of a man and is successful in beating multiple double and triple teams and is a huge asset in both run and pass. So could Suh be our pick this next draft and our final piece to a 3-4 defense?
In the Big 12 Championship game Suh was the best player on the field and that is saying alot when facing a Texas team led by Colt McCoy but Suh made McCoy look like a D-II quarterback in that game but that could be because McCoy has never faced pressure like that before. Suh dominated one of the nations best o-lines in college football drawing double and triple team blocks still got to the quarterback. But this might be the biggest asset to the Chiefs d-line Suh Drawing double and triple team blocks allowing other lineman and most important position in a 3-4 allowing the linebackers to run free because if the are three people on Suh there only two more people to block Hali, Dorsey, Jackson and the rest of the linebackers we field.
If Suh is available when the Chiefs pick there is no question who the should draft. Suh is the best player in the draft and could fill the missing piece to a successful 3-4 defense and that is a nose tackle.
You are probably thinking Suh could be 3-4 end but not a 3-4 nose tackle? But I have to disagree with you there If he can draw double and triple team blocks form a line like Texas the 300 pound plus Suh will surely at lest draw double teams in the NFL and if he can do that he will allow the players around him to go from average to good just like he did at Nebraska take a not so good d-lineadd in Suhs dominance and you have an awesome d-line. With the players the Chiefs have Suh will immediately improve the good players like Dorsey, Jackson, Hali and improve the lesser talented players like Mays and Williams because he is going to take the pressure off of this entire defense. Now that might be alot to ask of a rookie but that is something I think Suh can handle.
Here are Suhs stats compared to the nations best d-lines.
(via Double Extra Point:)
Alabama D-Line
98 Tkl, 23.5 TFL, 9.5 Sk, 20 QBH, 5 PBU, 0 Int, 1 FF, 3 Blk
Florida D-Line
112 Tkl, 33 TFL, 14 Sk, 48 QBH, 5 PBU, 0 Int, 1 FF, 0 Blk
Texas D-Line
116 Tkl, 25.5 TFL, 15.5 Sk, 10 QBH, 7 PBU, 0 Int, 2 FF, 0 Blk
Ndamukong Suh
82 Tkl, 23 TFL, 12 Sk, 24 QBH, 10 PBU, 1 Int, 1 FF, 3 Blk
This just shows how dominate Suh is. So I ask you AP can Suh be a nose tackle in the NFL?
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I'd love to say yes...
but, it’s a moot point, because I dont’ think he ever WILL be asked to be a NT…
He’ll be drafted in the top 2-3 picks, and asked to play DT in a 4-3 or DE in a 3-4….
and he won’t be a Chief, IMO
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers
could be
but, I think Tampa will take him as a DT in their 4-3
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers
we all thought
dorsey would go top 3 and he fell to us at 5…..and i wouldnt put it past us that we wont be drafting at 3 or 4…especially if we lose this week
yep
Tampa could possibly beat Seattle and Atlanta at home.
Detroit could beat Chicago at home.
There’s a not too remote chance that we could end up drafting #2 overall if we don’t win another game.
Predictions:
Kansas City will not win more than four games in 2009
Kansas City will have a new OC and DC in 2010
Kansas City will win at least seven games in 2010
Which wouldnt be a bad thing……with all the cant miss talent in the top 5
we could draft the best player available and trade him…..point and case sanchez last year……jets would have gave up a 2nd rounder for his rights
aaaaWWHHHAAAA?
where did you hear that?
Chiefs 2010 big board-
Eric Berry
Dez Bryant
Taylor Mays
Rolando McClain
Russel Okung
I wouldn't feel terrible about it either
I don’t think we’d be able to trade out of the pick, but it’s certainly possible depending on how the overall draft order falls. It’s just too early to tell.
At this point I just want the offense to play well for the rest of the season, I don’t care if we win any more games or not. Let the chips fall where they may.
Predictions:
Kansas City will not win more than four games in 2009
Kansas City will have a new OC and DC in 2010
Kansas City will win at least seven games in 2010
Yes he can but it does not matter
There is no way we get him he will be in St Louis or Tamba Bay. I don’t see anyway those two teams let him slip through their hands. Dewfinatly 1st or 2nd pick of the draft.
they SHOULD
unless they grab a FA… I heard a rumor about Vick going there… but that’s probably pure speculation
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers
Even if they get Vick
He can only be looked at as a temporary solution at best I would think. He’ll be 30 by the time the season starts next year.
I just spit up the food I was eating
Thanks for that. :)
by Eastcoastransplant on Dec 16, 2009 4:32 PM CST up reply actions
I heard
that being in prison is hard on the knees
:)
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers
^^ what they said
I think he could play NT, but it would be a waste of his skills to some degree. It’s a moot point though, as he won’t get past the top 3 picks.
Predictions:
Kansas City will not win more than four games in 2009
Kansas City will have a new OC and DC in 2010
Kansas City will win at least seven games in 2010
Suh will be a beast
wherever he lines up in whatever defense. He’s a freak athletically that will have to be accounted for by more than one person which is good in any defense…….
Yep.
And with DT/DEs in Jackson and Dorsey, the 3 of them on the same line would re-write protection schemes.
Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.
he will not fall to us so it doesnt matter unless we trade up...which wont happen.
by MountainManMike on Dec 15, 2009 2:06 PM CST reply actions
no one thought glen dorsey would fall to us....
and suh is bigger than ron edwards if im not mistaken. people stereotype NT have to be 6.2 330 lbs to 380 lbs. thats not the case, more importantly than bulk is braun and strenghth
Counter-Topic
What if your D is a 3-4, and you have the chance to draft Suh, do you take him and try to force a square peg into a round hole or do you switch to a 4-3?
Myself, I have always believed in going with what you’ve got and not forcing issues, I would switch to 4-3.
by Your_Moms_Boyfriend on Dec 15, 2009 2:16 PM CST reply actions
And Jackson/Magee?
TJ’s definitely not an out-and-out 4-3 DE. MaGee is at BEST DT depth, which is probably what TJ would come down to. Gilberry as the other rusher in the 4-3? Suh and Dorsey are tantalizing as our DT’s, but if we’re talking about “throwing away money” with Cassel, switching to the 4-3 would be throwing it away with TJ. I can’t fathom Pioli doing that.
Never mind that you’d trash the progress that Tamba and Dorsey have made this year.
"I don't know if I want to go to New York. They'll have to pay me a lot more money because I like it here in Kansas City." -- Roger Maris
Trade proposal
trade our 1st(5) and glenn to tampa for there 1st(2 or 3) and a second
draft suh to take dorsey spot
Why would we trade a proven 3-4 player
For someone who has never played in the 3-4 (let alone the NFL) before.
Dorsey’s probably the most solid player we have on that front seven. Give him a NT to work with and he’ll be an impact player.
Did we learn nothing about trading away the best player in our front seven? …hint..hint…Jared Allen…
"I don't know if I want to go to New York. They'll have to pay me a lot more money because I like it here in Kansas City." -- Roger Maris
im just saying thats a way they could
get suh…….im all for berry or okung
I don't know who I'm for yet, and won't for awhile.
I just don’t like the idea of trading away a proven starter for an unknown quantity, no matter what his college numbers are.
"I don't know if I want to go to New York. They'll have to pay me a lot more money because I like it here in Kansas City." -- Roger Maris
im deffinatly not either
but we know that pioli not afraid to take the chance to bring in his guy…..whether that means overpaying for him or not……..im happy with dorseys transition to the 3-4 we just have to hope pioli is too
I certainly
don’t want Pioli getting man lust every year and trying to adjust the schemes everytime there is a great player emerging…………(the right 53)
by Hail2DaChiefs on Dec 15, 2009 2:47 PM CST up reply actions
I wouldn't be opposed to a deal like that
I actually suggested that a day or two ago. I think Suh has more upside as a 3-4 DE than Dorsey, but as you say he’s proven that he can play in the NFL, Suh hasn’t.
Predictions:
Kansas City will not win more than four games in 2009
Kansas City will have a new OC and DC in 2010
Kansas City will win at least seven games in 2010
The D was broken before Allen left.
That was part of why he wanted out.
Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.
Very true.
Still, he was by far the best player on that side of the ball, and we have suffered on passing downs even more since he left.
"I don't know if I want to go to New York. They'll have to pay me a lot more money because I like it here in Kansas City." -- Roger Maris
by KaloPhoenix on Dec 16, 2009 11:05 AM CST up reply actions
if we were to switch back to a 4-3 and got Suh our line would be Jackson, Suh, Dorsey, Hali
Jackson isn’t much of a speed rusher so would he be good in a 4-3? Is hali better suited to play OLB? Will he be as effective with his hand down? Any time you change schemes your gonna have questions and it’s gonna take time.
Chiefs 2010 big board-
Eric Berry
Dez Bryant
Taylor Mays
Rolando McClain
Russel Okung
jackson and dorsey would play DT
hali would have to bulk up and play one de and suh would play the other
or maybe have studebaker play an end and leave tamba at OLB
Suh is NOT a 4-3 DE.
He’s an explosive, middle-of-the-line slasher…much like Dorsey was in college.
The coaching staff is happy enough with the 3-4. I can’t see them making Tamba bulk back up. Like JrGrayson said, give it some time. These guys just switched.
"I don't know if I want to go to New York. They'll have to pay me a lot more money because I like it here in Kansas City." -- Roger Maris
agree
they are NOT going back to the 4-3 for Suh or any other individual player
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers
I agree with pretty much everything you said, but the Suh isn’t as much of a slasher as alot of people say he. His dominant numbers make people think that, but he’s much more of a read and react player. Nebraska doesn’t have him on straight up pass rush very often. He’s very good at the point of attack, and using his hands to slide down the line in whatever direction the play is going. Thats why he has so many tackles/TFL. Being strong at the POA, taking up blockers, and ability to move down the line without being pushed out the play are pretty much what makes a great NT. His ridiculous hand speed and upper body strength help too.
Chiefs 2010 big board-
Eric Berry
Dez Bryant
Taylor Mays
Rolando McClain
Russel Okung
I've seen both ways, I suppose.
There’s been a handful of games where I’ve watched him slice through a double team to get to the ball carrier, and some that I’ve seen him string along.
Still…he’s not played the position, and while the quality of opponents was okay…it’s not like that of an NFL game. I’d like to get a veteran NT in here to show a youngster how it’s done…and at #2-5 overall, I’d hate to be drafting a backup.
Pioli obviously values position over talent (TJ last year), so unless Suh bulks up by 20-30 pounds by the draft (would KILL his stock), I don’t think Pioli’s going to draft him to be a NT. Like I said, I’ve got no idea who we should be targeting (WAY too early), but I think its apparent Pioli drafts for need and not BPA.
Caveat: I like Suh. I think he’s a good player with tremendous upside. I just don’t think we “need” him.
"I don't know if I want to go to New York. They'll have to pay me a lot more money because I like it here in Kansas City." -- Roger Maris
I don't think he needs to put on that much
You don’t have to be 330 pounds to play NT you just have to have the right skillset which Suh has. There are plenty of 3-4 NT that aren’t huge Jay Ratliff and Jason Ferguson are two off the top of my head. I think Suh could play NT for us next year and play well at 305. He has the rest of his career to add bulk.
Chiefs 2010 big board-
Eric Berry
Dez Bryant
Taylor Mays
Rolando McClain
Russel Okung
Suh could play 4-3 DE like Neil Smith - only maybe better.
Still be issues with being beaten in space. But I think it’s all moot.
Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.
what if that circle pegs slides in with ease to the square hole?
suh is versatie enough to playe anywhere on the d line
i agree
everyone thought dorsey could never make the switch to end in the 3-4 and it looks like hes doing a pretty good job
We don't need him
He’d be redundant here. We’d have to either switch schemes AGAIN or we’d have to move one of our other guys and then wait on his development. Either way you look at it there’s no logical case for doing it. We already have two top five draft picks, each playing 3-4 DE and both have NFL experience now. The problem we have on our D-line is at NT and the last thing this team needs is to draft a rookie DT with a top-5 pick and pay him top-5 money who’s natural playing weight is 291 and then stick his ass in at NT.
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Yup.
Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.
Double Yup
When you say it that way :)
We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09. Almost there :)
And Succop will be the Key in two of them. Skins & Raiders! Pittsburgh Sweet!
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
by Steve_Chiefs on Dec 16, 2009 4:42 PM CST up reply actions
Ughhhhh....
I think he could, but it doesn’t matter because he will be gone when we pick…He will go 1 or 2…
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Suh will probably play
3-4 DE and NT on 3rd down.
Suh will probably play somewhere for big money
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is TJ unmovable at this point?
i know people will think this sounds crazy but i wouldnt put it past pioli if he could pick up suh and trade tj for a low first rounder. the only tough thing would be tj’s contract.
by MountainManMike on Dec 16, 2009 4:51 AM CST reply actions
N.Suh
Why not (if he’s there) draft him & go back to a base 4-3?DT’s Dorsey,Edwards,&Magee.DE’s Suh,T.Jax,Gilberry & move Hali to DE when using a 3-4.Edwards can go to NT & draft a NT in the 3rd or 4th round.That would alleviate so many concerns with the LB’s.Seems like just drafting 1 guy could help this team immensley.
John Soellner
This has been an interesting topic so I have another question
I understand you don’t completely overhaul the team on a whim or for just one player (especially a player with no NFL experience yet). But at what time do you overhaul the system and try new schemes.
Is the changing of the coaching staff the only legit time? Should coordinators and coaches be more flexible?
I feel the development of the wildcat sheds some light on this. In essence the wildcat is a whole new offense with different personal taking on different responsibilities when those plays are run.
Is it possible for a defense to effectively be as flexible as an offense? Could they get the right 53 players to run a 3-4 and 4-3 effectively during the same season, if not the same game? Would this be too much, too complicated or are we underestimating the ability of the human condition to adapt?
I’m just a huge fan and have no football experience to speak of so I’m sure I’m oversimplifying, but it’s hard for me to believe that guys can’t tackle because they’re standing 1-5 yards to the left or right of where they normally stand before the ball is snapped.
by Your_Moms_Boyfriend on Dec 16, 2009 9:58 AM CST reply actions
It's a question of gaps, and if a player is standing or has his hand on the ground.
Really not trying to toot my own horn here, but I hit on this stuff during the offseason in these posts:
They’re a bit outdated now (referencing Zach Thomas and Tank Tyler) but the gap responsibilites and how they line up is in there. Hope that helps!
"I don't know if I want to go to New York. They'll have to pay me a lot more money because I like it here in Kansas City." -- Roger Maris
by KaloPhoenix on Dec 16, 2009 10:35 AM CST up reply actions
It could concievably be done
but your personnel has to be up to the task and that’s the rub. This is a very simplified explanation of how the players suit the scheme and visa versa, at least from the defensive front. If anyone has anything to correct me on, please do but this is mainly how I understand it. Definitely take a look at KaloPhoenix’s breakdown of the positions. He schooled us all on how the systems actually work.
Long-term 3-4 personnel is, by conventional wisdom a much easier system to acquire and implement. You have to have to have DE’s which can typically double effectively as 4-3 DT’s. We have these in place (Dorsey and Jackson). You also need a mammoth NT who can also typically play effectively as a 4-3 DT(a big need for KC). Keep in mind that the 3-4 NT is the one lineman that needs to be HUGE and that’s where most 4-3 DT’s fall short in such a transition. That’s the basis of the argument against Suh coming to KC.
It gets weird when you start looking at the edge positions. In the 4-3, you have to have DE(s) that are highly specialized. You need to keep in mind that the 4-3 DE’s typically differ from strong side to weak side with one guy primarily in the role of your 4th DT and the other guy primarily serving as pass rusher. Your pass rushing DE in the 4-3 is usually your high dollar freak. They’re hard to find. Think Jared Allen and Julius Peppers, tall, rangy guys with crazy speed strength and explosiveness. Those guys don’t grow on trees and they mean all the difference in the world in terms of a 4-3 system’s success. In the 3-4 your OLB’s are your primary pass rushers. They don’t typically translate well because they aren’t required to posses the same physical attributes as the pass rushing 4-3 ends. Much less of a specialized thoroughbred. IMO, this is why Tamba struggled as the pass rushing DE in the 4-3 and he’s thrived from the 3-4 OLB spot this year. It suits his physical traits much better.
There are also differences in the LB corps to an extent, but for the sake of this post, the defensive front is where the focus should be.
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And in search of the rare Julius Peppers or Dwight Freeney
you’re seeing mostly ‘tweeners who are neither fish nor fowl. And typically when you get a guy who’s dominant as a pass rusher, you can run right at him. But then I’m thinking from a Chiefs’ perspective.
Even in the days of the great Neil Smith, the 4-3 lacked some speed on the edge. That’s why the Thomas-Smith team-up was so cool. Neil was very mobile for a man his size, and Thomas was going to chase everything to that side of the field. With Mickell, Saleamua and Phillips mainly just trying to push things up the field (and keep their feet), it was a pretty unescapable noose, most all day long.
Another problem with the 4-3 is keeping fresh legs on the field. Once you’ve fielded those starting 4, who’s behind them? I really noticed this the other day in a MIN game. If they have to do much QB chasing, that’s one tired front line by the 4th quarter.
Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.
I'll buy the gun
If you let me use it first
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Can I be in your will?
Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.
I think Buck was going to shoot you and me first :(
We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09. Almost there :)
And Succop will be the Key in two of them. Skins & Raiders! Pittsburgh Sweet!
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
by Steve_Chiefs on Dec 16, 2009 5:40 PM CST up reply actions
That's a sad testement chiefsfan1970
It doesn’t sound like mills or steve think we’re gonna make it
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I hear you buddy.
I hope they are wrong. Sounds pretty messy!
by Chiefsfan1970 on Dec 16, 2009 7:51 PM CST up reply actions
I live in nebraska and i am the Anti-Husker....
I hate the huskers with a passion. i will never enjoy them winning anything! But i can not help but root for Suh. This dude is a BEAST. Beats the double teams on a regular basis, if you are crazy enough to NOT doubt team him, you are a sitting duck. But he is also mature. Being in omaha there is obviously an over saturation of NE media, as i’m sure you fellas in KC get to see more Chiefs media than us. This is one smart kid. He has his head on straight. This guy will be a pro-bowler in less than 4 years, im calling this now.
I have no doubt that he is a great player
I am tired of us spending all of our first round picks on the D-line. can we get some help on the O-line or maybe a skill position player for once? Okung would be cool or Berry. Those guys are really good, high impact players. if Jake Locker were entering the draft I would say HELL YEAH to Jake Locker. That guy is missing the boat if you ask me. He should cash in that winning ticket while he has the chance. i’ll bet Sam Bradford would have entered last year if he could do it over again.
Locker just announced it
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Maybe you shoulda sayed in skule a little longer, two.
Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.
Oh God no!
I was well on my way to being a career academic until I got sick of being so poor. My lack of a good spell checker is my excuse these days :P
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I went straight from taking classes to giving them, with a few other interesting jobs mixed in.
I don’t know what I’d do if I didn’t get summers off and a month for Christmas! I still end up using the time off in preparations for the next semester, but 3 or 4 hours a day, usually done before noon, and everything gets done.
Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.
There's definately a tradeoff
The challenges and the money are great these days but I get NO frigging time off. Oh how I miss hiking the Sierra Nevadas and Europe for a months at a time. Sigh…
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Nice thing about being a professor is...
… your job is as interesting and as time-consuming as you choose to make it. You might promise your students something cool that will help learning, only to find yourself swamped, at times, but you had the authority to call the shots, and only have yourself to blame.
I’ve always been too lazy to just do the same thing, and teaching lets you make changes every time around. Because the job is engaging, I end up putting in as many or more hours as anybody in a 9-to-5 job, but it’s doing things that I mostly want to do. It’s amazing to me how much looser I am about some things, and how much more strict I am on others. The first 10 years or so, I think I cared more about the learning than my students did, and wasted a lot of time on feedback to students who didn’t give a shit, when I could’ve been much less detailed in the daily grading, if I were just able to get more of them to buy into the program.
Getting them into a frame of mind where they want to please me, rather than fearing my displeasure.
But for my material wants and needs, the money is plenty, and the retirement and health plans are good. Now I’m on vacation, even though I decided last night to organize the day-to-day schedule for Calculus III. I’m about to put the finishing touches on that. It’s kind of like being a carpenter, only you’re never afraid of making a false move, because you can always change anything you don’t like very easily, with a month to have it sitting mostly finished on a shelf and taking it down and polishing it ever so often.
There’s a core of 5 or 6 kids that I’ve had since Calculus I (and a couple before that, even), and the comfort level and eagerness to learn the game of the day are high. A real joy to get paid to talk about neat stuff to smart young people, who are learning this neat stuff for the first time. I hear ‘em talking to one another out in the halls, sometimes, and realize these are the talents that will be making a better world when I’m dead and gone. As smart as I ever was, or smarter, with better tools and a more expansive world view than I ever had (at least at that age).
Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.
by hmills110 on Dec 18, 2009 3:43 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
That's great mills
I went into business for myself, mainly because I’m a mission motivated person and I always knew that with any challenge, the money would come. I love the challenges that our customers present and the satisfaction of developing solutions to solve problems. It enables me to walk away with a sense of accomplishment at the end of each project.
The funny thing is, now that the business is doing well, my favorite part of any challenge is teaching my young, smart, talented, driven 20-something employees how to do the same thing. They’re incredible. Their creativity and ingenuity are my primary inspiration these days. In all honesty, I find I learn just as much from them as they do from me.
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by Buck'O on Dec 18, 2009 8:47 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I like the route you took.
Fact is, to make it in business for yourself, you do much the same kind of things I do in my job, only every guy YOU train makes money for you, without your having to do anything. The idea is to make yourself expendable.
Strangely, that’s kind of how I look at my teaching, now. Rather than be the superhero math dude, I do as much as I can to make myself expendable in the learning process. There’s always a certain “resident math expert” in the mix, because I’m the most highly trained person in the room, but if I can teach THEM how to assess their OWN work better (and get them in the habit of doing just that), I work less and am free to be more creative in how I bring new ideas to them.
That’s the hardest thing to accomplish as a sole proprietor: Training people to take YOUR place, when part of why you’re in business is because you want to use YOUR talents for YOUR benefit, and it’s hard to let go of any aspect of the business. You can only grow your company so big, if there are too many details needing your personal attention. Train a guy and move on…
Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.
Well just awesome
I prefer to make myself unexpendable.
But sorta dig my own hole at the same time.
Your methods sound much better :)
In my next life, I will be an Cow in India in the Hindu side of town
We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09. Almost there :)
And Succop will be the Key in two of them. Skins & Raiders! Pittsburgh Sweet!
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
by Steve_Chiefs on Dec 19, 2009 10:03 PM CST up reply actions
Feeling unexpendable is very gratifying. Some live their whole lives that way. But if you want to build something lasting, you really need it to go on without you. Trick is to make money off it, while you’re vacationing in Bermuda. So I like Buck’O’s approach better than yours or mine.
Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.
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