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Breaking Down the Chiefs and Bills Tape - O-Line


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The Kansas City Chiefs start out the fourth quarter of the season 0-1.  At first blush it appeared the Chiefs moved the ball better than they had at he beginning of the season.  Was that due to better offensive line play?  Is the line starting to gel?

This post will again attempt to flush out the answers to all the question about the offensive line.  The film never lies.

Observations after reviewing the film:

  1. Each week the offensive line is attempting to "cut block" more.  Denver, notorious for zone blocking, has been well known for using the cut block.  Are we going to a Denver type blocking scheme?
  2. O'Callaghan and Smith for the second week in a row did not cut block very well.  Albert improved his cut blocking from last week and performed 4 successful cut blocks.
  3. The Chiefs used two-tight-end sets more against the Buffalo Bills.  Cottom appears to be developing more as a TE.
  4. It is noticeable that the Chiefs are using more and more types of protections during games.  This tells me the coaches are at a point that they feel more comfortable with how the players are performing on the field.
  5. In the game against Buffalo, Brian Waters helped Albert more than past games.
  6. The Chiefs did not attempt as many reach blocks against Buffalo.
  7. On the 70 yard run by Charles, two LBs for Buffalo blitzed.  Brian Waters picked the blitz up and block one LB into the other LB.  Essentially blocking two players at the same time.  After Albert got a second level block on the other LB...well...six points.
  8. Pass blocking grades have stayed consistently high over the past 3 games.
  9. Albert did a good job on all his second level blocks against Buffalo. 

Here are the grades from the first three quarters against the Buffalo Bills :

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                              BUFFALO BILLS


PLAYER RB SOLO Reach Block SECOND LEVEL PB SOLO PB DOUBLE Driven
Albert 91%
50%
100%
85%
100%
2
Waters 85%
66%
75%
95%
100% 1
Niswanger 75%
25%
25%
93%
100% 2
Smith 70%
66%
45%
93%
100% 1
O'Callaghan 97%
50%
95%
90%
100% 1
Pope 97%
--
100%
95%
100% 1
Cottam 97%
--
100%
100%
100% 1

 

 

This week O'Callaghan topped the 90% mark in both run blocking and pass blocking, congratulations.  He receives the top grade award.

TOP GRADE AWARD
TOP GRADE AWARD
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I don't think I can give out the Driven by Miss Daisy Award when the most any offensive lineman was driven was 2 times.  So, no one gets this award this week.  Good Job.

 

 MISS DAISY DRIVEN BY MISS DAISY AWARD
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Previous grades for Broncos, Chargers 2nd gameSteelers gameRaiders gameJaguars gameChargers 1st game for those of you that would like to track progress.

 

PAST SIX GAMES
GP Player Top Grade Award
# of Drivens
6 Albert 1
5
7 Waters
4
5
7 Niswanger 0
14
4 Smith 0
8
7 O'Callaghan 3
8
4 Pope 1
3
3 Cottom 0
4
2 Alleman 0
4

 

 

 

 

 

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Here's how the grading works:

  • Each offensive lineman was given a "+" for doing their job or a "-" for failing to do their job on each play.
  • These pluses and minuses were grouped into the type of block they were asked to do, e.g., a run block solo (RB Solo), a run block double team (RB Double), or a pass block solo (PB Solo), etc.
  • A "D", for "driven", was assigned every time a player was manhandled during a pass or run play.
  • The quality of the lineman's play is represented as a percentage above.  The higher the percentage the better the lineman did.
  • I tried to be very strict...I think Haley would want it that way.
  • One important note, some plays were unclear as to who exactly did not do their job, e.g., a defensive tackle going unblocked at the line of scrimmage.  Was it the centers fault?  The guards fault?  In these cases it was clear that a mistake was made and the player that looked to be most at fault was assigned the blame.

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Arrowhead Pride's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Arrowhead Pride writers or editors.

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Look forward to this post every week. Thanks for taking the time.

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by JComp11 on Dec 15, 2009 10:27 AM CST reply actions  

Same here I really enjoy this post

It is also backing up that our O-Line has been playing good enough to win games.

by kcchiefstd on Dec 15, 2009 1:24 PM CST up reply actions  

pretty easy

to see the weak link in the line. Great job!

by REMWHEN on Dec 15, 2009 10:47 AM CST reply actions  

I am glad things are getting to the point...

when we can tell what needs upgraded. At the beginning of the year I had no idea.

Bewsaf

by Bewsaf on Dec 15, 2009 11:08 AM CST up reply actions  

The line has improved a lot.

I think we need to add a guard and a center in the offseason, and I think the o-line can be pretty good.

by saskwatch on Dec 15, 2009 10:49 AM CST reply actions  

absolutely

a Center is a MUST

IF Waters is still here, I think they have enough Guards on the team… but, we’ll see what happens

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers

by stagdsp on Dec 15, 2009 10:57 AM CST up reply actions  

I would still like

to get 2 upgrades on the o-line.

Bewsaf

by Bewsaf on Dec 15, 2009 11:03 AM CST up reply actions  

of course

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers

by stagdsp on Dec 15, 2009 11:17 AM CST up reply actions  

We at least need to have a legitimate replacement for Waters. Remember what happened with Roaf and Shields? I do not want to be stuck without someone to fill in again.

by EyePod on Dec 15, 2009 12:09 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah... starting to groom replacements would be VERY smart

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers

by stagdsp on Dec 15, 2009 12:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed

We need a true center, and picking one high in the draft wouldn’t hurt my feelings at all. Wisniewski is who i think is a can’t miss guy at Center. I also wouldn’t mind going after A.Dixon RB Miss.st, even if we trade down with our first pick to get more picks to be able to go after him.

by CPT.Caveman on Dec 18, 2009 10:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Nice post again...

So if I understand this correctly, the O line is playing better, yet the offense has looked as bad as ever. Hmmm…wonder where the blame lies.

by radyman on Dec 15, 2009 10:52 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

hmm...

the best receiver on the team has been out for 4 weeks…

hmm

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers

by stagdsp on Dec 15, 2009 10:54 AM CST up reply actions  

Receiver and...

Cassel needs to start hitting more deep throws.

He has started to get more time over the past 3 games. He should be more comfortable the next three games about his overall protection. So, I want to see more good throws on the deep ball…assuming he has someone open to throw the deep ball to.

Bewsaf

by Bewsaf on Dec 15, 2009 11:06 AM CST up reply actions  

probably not gonna see that much

cassel’s deep ball is non existent, & there aren’t any WRs on this squad that are straight burners……may be a couple jump ball situations that Bowe wins, but other than that, expect more screens, slants, dinks & dunks

by reedeasy on Dec 15, 2009 11:10 AM CST up reply actions  

You can't stop throwing the ball deep

Or else the safeties will just set up camp in the box and Charles won’t be effective.
I refuse to believe Cassel CAN’T throw the ball deep, he just hasn’t shown that he can.

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by craig in calgary on Dec 15, 2009 11:31 AM CST up reply actions  

He's had plenty of deep completions this season

he’s missed some too… but it’s not like he’s totally inept

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers

by stagdsp on Dec 15, 2009 11:42 AM CST up reply actions  

Agree. He's erred on the side of caution on those throws, too.

A burner with an extra gear makes those catches Bobby Wade was just short of making. And some would argue Wade should’ve have made at least one that he didn’t.

With the exception of a badly underthrown ball on the run that ended in a pick, he’s been slightly overthrowing the deep balls.

Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.

by hmills110 on Dec 19, 2009 7:31 PM CST up reply actions  

At least he was overthrowing receivers this week instead of underthrowing them.

Just waiting for him to hit that happy middle area… you know, where the receiver is.

by EyePod on Dec 15, 2009 12:26 PM CST up reply actions  

maybe the receiver wasn't in the right place, and he was throwing to a spot?

just playing devil’s advocate

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers

by stagdsp on Dec 15, 2009 12:31 PM CST up reply actions  

It’s possible especially since that has actually happened multiple times according to the players.

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by JComp11 on Dec 15, 2009 12:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Ultimately it goes to coaching

Though I can’t imagine having to coach a team with the lack of talent that the Chiefs have. We’ve had very little continuity at a lot of key positions, mainly the OLine. They’ve just started to jel a bit more in the last few games and have been buying Cassel a lot more time in the pocket. That aspect of our game has progressed, but the playcalling isn’t progressing with it.

It seems to me, judging from the type of passes Haley is calling like the WR screens, that Haley still has the idea that Cassel isn’t getting the protection he needs. Those may be high percentage passes, but as shown throughout the rest of the season those calls are not executed very well by this Chief’s team. And we don’t have the receivers to run them with Bowe not in the game.

"The first step to penetration... must not be lateral"
-Confucius, in contrary to Glenn Dorsey lining up in the 2-tech

by ArrowSpread on Dec 15, 2009 11:13 AM CST up reply actions  

honestly

I think Bowe has a lot to do with Cassel’s performance
seems like he adjusts to the ball better than most, and makes the big play when it counts.
If he were in the game on that last drive, I bet he scores the TD to win it

receiver play can make a QB look good or bad… I think Cassel hasn’t played great… but he hasnt’ been as bad as people are trying to say… we really dont’ know how many times the receiver ran the wrong route, or wasn’t in the right place… also, SEVERAL of the picks were off of a receivers’ hands, and many incompletions should have been caught…

what I’m saying is that I HOPE to see a much better game from Cassel this week, now that he has his “full” receivers group, and Charles is playing well.

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers

by stagdsp on Dec 15, 2009 11:21 AM CST up reply actions  

I think an offseason of continuity will help Cassel out a great deal

Continuity with respect to the O.C, the playbook, the terminology, the receivers, the OLine…

There have just been waaaay too many unknowns at a lot of key positions to breed success. Haley isn’t making it any better with poor game management decisions or calling plays that don’t fit the skillsets of our personnel.

Jamaal Charles, Buffalo run defense, and we come out….passing? Just run the fucking ball. Who cares if they know what you’re gonna do?! Just do it!

"The first step to penetration... must not be lateral"
-Confucius, in contrary to Glenn Dorsey lining up in the 2-tech

by ArrowSpread on Dec 15, 2009 11:31 AM CST up reply actions  

It does appear

Haley ends up outsmarting himself a majority of the time (4th and 1 bootleg)…….he just needs to call the next game straight up. Keep the gadget plays to a minimum.

by Hail2DaChiefs on Dec 15, 2009 3:03 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm agreeing!

We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09. Almost there :)
And Succop will be the Key in two of them. Skins & Raiders! Pittsburgh Sweet!
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram

by Steve_Chiefs on Dec 15, 2009 4:29 PM CST up reply actions  

not me

I don’t want a vanilla offense.

I’d rather see them with a full playbook, taking chances, trying to win…
rather than being afraid to run anything different, being predictable and boring

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers

by stagdsp on Dec 15, 2009 4:59 PM CST up reply actions  

and with the current talent shooting ourselves in the foot

and Losing

We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09. Almost there :)
And Succop will be the Key in two of them. Skins & Raiders! Pittsburgh Sweet!
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram

by Steve_Chiefs on Dec 15, 2009 5:51 PM CST up reply actions  

We can run any play you want

just kick a FG when possible and save the Fake punts for the far side of the 50 and the Fake KO’s for games when we are down two TD’s

We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09. Almost there :)
And Succop will be the Key in two of them. Skins & Raiders! Pittsburgh Sweet!
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram

by Steve_Chiefs on Dec 15, 2009 5:52 PM CST up reply actions  

fair enough

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers

by stagdsp on Dec 15, 2009 6:02 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't want a vanilla offense either Stags

I just want Haley to mix it up a little with the right players on the play….

4th and 1 on the goal line:

Naked bootleg with QB that’s not extremely mobile = :(
Fake fumble play with Cassel jumping handoff to mobile back = :)

Haley has the right idea with some of the different looks we’re seeing, his timing and use of player attributes is just off sometimes. But, I’m confident he’s learning from his mistakes…..

by Hail2DaChiefs on Dec 15, 2009 8:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Cassel is mobile enough to make that play

if it’s well blocked, or unexpected.

but, I agree that they should have been able to score w a run by Charles

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers

by stagdsp on Dec 16, 2009 1:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Got a remember that Cassel is one of the more athletic QBs in the league

He’s certainly mobile enough to score on a draw or a bootleg, or pick up a rushing first down. I want to say that he had the second most rushing yards by a QB last year, behind Thigpen.

Good blocking is key, of course.

by DanielUM on Dec 19, 2009 1:23 PM CST up reply actions  

I am not sure if

Haley called the bootleg or Cassel checked to it because he thought he could make it.

I do know that Vrabel blocked like the ball was going away from him. Either Vrabel got the play wrong or Cassel checked out of the call…

Bewsaf

by Bewsaf on Dec 15, 2009 5:13 PM CST up reply actions  

interesting

Haley talked like it was a called play, based on the flow of the game

seems odd to depend on Vrabel as a blocker, though

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers

by stagdsp on Dec 15, 2009 5:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Here we go!

Radyman needs to take a big ol swig of some casselberry splash Kool-aid

by Chiefsfan1970 on Dec 15, 2009 10:59 AM CST reply actions  

mmm...casselberry.

Actually, I blame Haley more than Cassel, but I am getting sick of seeing WR screens and around 5 yards per attempt.

by radyman on Dec 15, 2009 12:20 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Been calling for that a long time as well

I’d like a C in the 2nd round (O’Dowdy?) and a RG 3rd/4th.

Next draft we could get a LG and our line should be set for a good five years.

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by Scaryclouds on Dec 15, 2009 11:18 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

that would be fine with me

allows the Chiefs to go defense with the first 2 picks, potentially…. continue building on that side of the ball.

I wouldn’t be upset to see an OT taken, either though… they are very thin at those positions.
I’ve been saying for a while that there are lots of RG candidates for 2010 on the roster…
Alleman, Ndukwe, Colin Brown, Niswanger, etc…

but not many OT on the roster…and that’s an important position

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers

by stagdsp on Dec 15, 2009 11:24 AM CST up reply actions  

Agree. OT and C look thin.

And Ndukwe looks like a starting G whom I’d rather not play out of position at RT.

Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.

by hmills110 on Dec 19, 2009 7:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Free Agents

Anyone know who the potential free agent guard and centers will be next year?

by groundedchevy on Dec 15, 2009 11:06 AM CST reply actions  

Mankins

I can see us picking up Mankins if the pats don’t sign him to a big contract…He would cost us a lot tho

by groundedchevy on Dec 15, 2009 11:11 AM CST up reply actions  

Aren't they up against the cap again

and they have a boat load of draft picks as well. Something has to give and that something just might be Mankins. And I don’t think money is really an object for us right now, especially on the O-Line.

Albert’s contract is very cap friendly, Waters is the only one making any real cash, O’Callaghan is making backup money…….the Chiefs are currently cash rich and Lineman poor.

by Your_Moms_Boyfriend on Dec 15, 2009 11:16 AM CST up reply actions  

Supposedly the Salary Cap will be gone for next year

unless the NFLPA & Owners can come to terms on a new collective bargaining agreement.

Predictions:

Kansas City will not win more than four games in 2009
Kansas City will have a new OC and DC in 2010
Kansas City will win at least seven games in 2010

by jmcgoblue on Dec 15, 2009 12:27 PM CST up reply actions  

isnt he a LG?

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers

by stagdsp on Dec 15, 2009 11:17 AM CST up reply actions  

Yes, Mankins is a LG

And every NE fan says there is zero chance Belichick lets him walk. But as Belichick has said in the past, every player is expendable.

I wouldn’t put my money on it, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it happened either. I do want Mankins though because I think Waters can move to C if needed.

by Nick Britt on Dec 15, 2009 11:44 AM CST up reply actions  

yeah...

one has to believe that Wilfork or Mankins would be available
they have several other FA to re-sign… so it’s not out of the question to snag one of those two

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers

by stagdsp on Dec 15, 2009 11:45 AM CST up reply actions  

To me, the surprise trade of Seymour suggests it's likely they meant to keep Wilfork.

I was one of the first on the “Ron Brace means we get Wilfork” bandwagon, too. But I think the uncapped year would actually play to New England’s advantage if they wanted to keep both Mankins and Wilfork for at least one more year.

Do the Chiefs really need to pay a premium for G, when they have a nice pool to compete with one another, and very little depth at tackle? Let Ndukwe, Alleman, Brown, Niswanger, (Richardson) fight it out at G, and add a tackle with more up-side from the draft to push O’Callaghan.

Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.

by hmills110 on Dec 19, 2009 9:16 PM CST up reply actions  

As far as I know Mankins will be a restricted free agent this offseason with no new CBA.

If there’s a salary cap, he’ll hit the market. If not, the Patriots would have the inside track to retaining him, as they’d get to match any offers and/or receive compensation if another team signs him.

by DanielUM on Dec 19, 2009 1:31 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think the Chiefs have to work that hard for G in FA,

I first wrote that as “FA G,” and then noticed its insensitivity. sigh.

I think they need to go after C 2-deep and go after T. But I don’t think they need to take Okung to help at tackle. And I don’t like the scenarios that entail moving Albert or Waters. Keep what’s good. If Waters stays at all, he stays at LG, IMO. If they can’t do OK at G with what they currently have, then they already miscalculated, and likely can’t be relied upon to do much else that I’ll care for (and somehow I don’t think that’ll happen).

Maybe after the rest of the position group is addressed, you go all-out for left tackle and move Albert, if he appears to be the weak link. Frankly, if Waters stays, and you all like the Albert-to-his-natural-LG-spot thing, it makes more sense a year or two from now to go franchise LT. Meanwhile, I hear there are some fine LT/RT prospects that have more upside than Okung, just aren’t ready-to-dominate right away. And maybe one of them develops, and relieves some of the pressure in the next draft.

Meantime, get C FIXED. Get dominant at RT. Someone to at least push O’’Callaghan, and if O’Callaghan loses the starting spot, we feel pretty damn good about RT 2-deep. To my eye, thus far, Colin Brown has G written all over him. Maybe play some swing tackle in a pinch, but that pinch’d have to be a real BITE, and 2 TEs might be in order, and just maul people up front.

Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.

by hmills110 on Dec 19, 2009 8:46 PM CST up reply actions  

agree in a backhand way

bq.I think they need to go after C 2-deep and go after T

If we grab the two best Centers in the draft we will have our best Guard outside of Waters also, if you want yet another developement tackle instead of some other roster spot more power to you :)

We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09. Almost there :)
And Succop will be the Key in two of them. Skins & Raiders! Pittsburgh Sweet!
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram

by Steve_Chiefs on Dec 19, 2009 9:42 PM CST up reply actions  

I guess I'm just not too high on Richardson or Brown as developmental tackles, Steve.

I feel like ‘09 was Richardson’s last reasonable chance to show he was the real thing.

Good point about the 2 best Cs giving you a good G. But I wasn’t stuck on drafting a pair of Cs. Kind of hopeful that one in the draft and one in FA would happen. Doesn’t mean it’s doable. Mawae would be difficult to pry loose, but TEN might feel the need to go in a new direction at C, and spending money elsewhere. Chiefs are in great shape to pay Mawae and draft a C for the future.

2-deep at C means that I’m not satisfied with the position at all and I think the Chiefs need a better starter and better depth at that position. I don’t want Smith or Niswanger to be one injury away from starting at C.

You think maybe Alleman could seriously compete at C?

Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.

by hmills110 on Dec 19, 2009 10:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe we'll sign their RG Neil

Since he was a former wrestler turned football player he would probably be a good tutor for that wrestler on the PS. He’s pretty old though…

Predictions:

Kansas City will not win more than four games in 2009
Kansas City will have a new OC and DC in 2010
Kansas City will win at least seven games in 2010

by jmcgoblue on Dec 15, 2009 12:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Mawae is up for renewal in TEN.

Unlikely they let him get away, but a short-term deal for Mawae, plus a great C to develop behind him, and I’m OK with that. I can definitely see the Chiefs making a play for Mawae (or Wilfork on the other side).

Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.

by hmills110 on Dec 19, 2009 7:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Hey bew or 1970 could you dumb it up a little bit for me?? Check yes or no!

I started slobbering after the word “start”. I had to eat a donut and take a nap. Please help!

by krayfish on Dec 15, 2009 12:52 PM CST reply actions  

yes

that’s the level I function at the best..

Bewsaf

by Bewsaf on Dec 15, 2009 1:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Bewsaf rocks

Thanks for giving us these we researched posts. I certainly looks to me like O’Callhan is a keeper. One less hold to fill on the O line this spring will give us one mrore LB… or WR… or RB?

by Ozarks on Dec 15, 2009 5:56 PM CST reply actions  

Even with O'Callaghan starting, there's still no depth at tackle.

And I hear there are going to be some very good tackle prospects likely to be available in the 2nd or 3rd rounds. A team that can develop an eventual starting-caliber tackle from a 2nd- or 3rd-rounder will have stolen a march on most other teams in the league, and this looks like a year in which that can be accomplished. Not very sexy, but maybe best for how this team is constructed and where they want to go.

One thing Bewsaf seems to be telling us these past weeks is that KC probably doesn’t need or want to draft Okung with that #1 pick. I’m on the Berry bandwagon, myself.

Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.

by hmills110 on Dec 19, 2009 9:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Thx again, Bewsaf.

My 3rd or 7th visit to this thread, because of strong content in the Post and the strong dialogue it generated.

Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.

by hmills110 on Dec 19, 2009 9:32 PM CST reply actions  

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