Chiefs Coach Haley: No One Told Me To Thank the Fans
by Joel Thorman on Dec 14, 2009 5:12 PM CST
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After yesterday's 16-10 loss to the Buffalo Bills, Todd Haley publicly thanked the Kansas City Chiefs fans for their support in his opening remarks to the media. This morning, Jason Whitlock of the Kansas City Star suggested that Haley was told by someone to "shill for tickets" in his post-game press conference.
"Yes, sir," Whitlock wrote, "the refs flagged the Bills for three penalties on Sunday —- two holdings and one pass interference. Buffalo clearly lost its composure inside thundering Arrowhead Stadium. You might think a noise-rattled team on the road would jump offsides or blow timeouts, but you don’t understand the "process."
"Or you don’t understand Kansas City’s ticket-selling "process." It’s founded on gassing up gullible fans with poorly timed, poorly delivered platitudes. Haley sounded like Eddie Haskell."
Haley was asked today if anyone told him to thank the fans following the game yesterday.
"Anything I say in here is me speaking," Haley said in response to Nick Wright of 610 Sports' question. "I sincerely felt the fans did a great job for us. The fans have been a group that I have talked about since my first day on the job, you know, how excited I was to be part of this fan base. I know we have to give them more to cheer about.
"Anything that I say is what I feel. I'm assuming that the question is being asked for a reason so something's up."
Wright didn't directly say he was talking about Whitlock's column but I think it was pretty clear why he was asking the question. Wright then explained that there was some talk that the head coach was told to thank the fans.
Haley responded with a little more vigor this time.
"Anytime someone questions me," he explained, "like you questioning me right now because if I said something or someone else told me to, that's going to get conviction out of me. Period."
Haley followed up saying, "I'm assuming you asked the question for a reason. I'm not that dumb."
"I don't read anything," he continued. "I saw one thing on TV yesterday and it was by accident and that was enough for the week. I'm trying to find the Chargers/Cowboys game and put it on an unnamed channel, and listened to an unnamed sportscaster pretty much bash the Chiefs as much as he possibly could, which is fine.
"That's enough for me. I don't read or look at anything. I've given explicit instructions to my experts surrounding me that if it's something I have to know about then you can tell me...and that includes wife, friends and any other family."
Who was the sportscaster? I'm not sure. I know of one NBC Action News reporter that takes a no-holds-barred approach to his criticism of the Chiefs but, for the most part, I think a lot of reporters are fair in their criticism.
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Whitlock=Blowhole
After reading all of the posts I realized that as much as people put down JW he still wins.It’s a writers job to get emotion from the fans & by all of these accounts he has.Most everyone read his column.He wins.YEECH!!!!!Don’t read & react.Ignore him & he might go away.
John Soellner
I hated Whitlock's article this week...
I usually put something from it on here but it wasn’t worthy of this place to me…it was grasping for something and never got there…it was trying too hard…
You might think a noise-rattled team on the road would jump offsides or blow timeouts, but you don’t understand the “process.”
The thing is at least once, maybe twice, the Bills did have to blow timeouts because of crowd noise and other confusion…
It was inaccurate, so he lost any credibility. Which wasn’t much…
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Whitlock is one of the worst people there is...
He only spews hate after hate, and then when something good happens, he transitions the hate to something else. I dont understand how he can always be so negative.
Despite that, I do wish he would transfer some of his “journalism” at the Royals. They have shown very thin skin and have reacted childishly to bloggers, I would like to see how Royals management would deal with the “heat” Whitlock can bring.
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by averagegatsby on Dec 14, 2009 5:38 PM CST up reply actions
Let's not turn this into just bashing Whitlock or callin him names, guys...
Make critiques of his material but not just slander.
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by woodman212 on Dec 14, 2009 5:19 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
hey woodman
i went to rec your comment and accidently hit flag! Sorry i am only working with one hand here, damn Iraq!
Haley and Pioli are going to work here
once they surround themselves with their talent, watch Whitlock’s columns change. He will say he knew it all along, that it was his vision, and the Chiefs are so great. We all know the type of writer he is.
But to the headline of the post, i feel that Haley and Pioli are truly happy and thankful for the fans that have sat in Arrowhead through this. They know the product they are putting on the field and some of their playcalling as been terrible this year. I know sitting here in Oklahoma during the Steelers game i could sense that Arrowhead was turning into the Arrowhead of old. Give us one good season of good football in front of the home town crowd and it will sooth alot of these problems.
Whitlock's next article
“Somebody told Haley to say that nobody told him to say it”
It’s really a shame that WHitlock needs to turn evrything into a criticism. He’d have some credibilitt left if he just put forth a realistic evaluation. Credit when it’s due…blame when it’s due. The criticism would be fine then.
Today’s article was tripe. Thanking those of who turned out in shitty weather it cheer our asses off for a shitty team is some sort of evil conspiracy? Really?
C’mon man.
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by KCSatchmo on Dec 14, 2009 5:32 PM CST reply actions
To be fair
He applauded the Pioli hire. That’s one positive thing. :)
by Joel Thorman on Dec 14, 2009 5:37 PM CST up reply actions
C'mon Man!
I guess you could say the article about Haley’s change in demeanor was positive. I’d say it more more self serving “look how good Haley can be when he does what I day” BS. But that’s just me.
I have defended Whitlock for years, but he totally lost me when his article after the Washington game was about the announcers. He won’t even write about teh Chiefs after our few victories. The guy is a jerk.
I disagree with Teicher almost 100% of teh time, but I have met him and he’s a good dude. I listen to what he has to say because I know he actually believes it. Whitlock’s articles are written soley for teh purpose of advancing Whitlock’s relevance. It’s completely ironic that he hates Pioli for his ego.
Whew. I feel better now. ;)
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by KCSatchmo on Dec 14, 2009 5:43 PM CST up reply actions
Wow... I counted 3 "teh's" in that diatribe
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by averagegatsby on Dec 14, 2009 5:47 PM CST up reply actions
When that happens
You know it’s a stream of consciousness post. Happens to me all the time.
by Joel Thorman on Dec 14, 2009 5:54 PM CST up reply actions
Fool me once shame on me fool me twice...
A fooled man can’t get fooled again… But fool me three times?
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by averagegatsby on Dec 14, 2009 5:55 PM CST up reply actions
Stupid Wireless Microsoft Keyboard
I spit my last breath at thee
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by KCSatchmo on Dec 14, 2009 5:56 PM CST up reply actions
He works hard.
Incidentally
The couch never recovered.
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by KCSatchmo on Dec 14, 2009 6:11 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I am so
sick and tired of Jason Whitlock. Absolutely sick of him.
“Please buy tickets, pay $22 to park and fill up Arrowhead Stadium next Sunday. Even if you boo, wear bags over your head and your children get ill watching the Chiefs play, Todd Haley will thank you for your $upport.”
As I was reading the article, I cringed repeatedly. I even slipped into a dream state of me smacking the ISH out of him repeatedly, with both the front and back sides of both hands.
But the last word in the article..not so much the word but the “$” is what set me off.
The Chiefs have been one of the leagues worst teams for 3 years straight. And we have continued to sell out game after game. Have the Chiefs ever begged the fans to buy tickets? NO. We always show up because we’re loyal fans. 1 of the few cities in the league that support the team through thick and thin. But Jason Whitlock thinks its about nothing but money? He thinks the Chiefs are begging us to buy tickets just for money?
I’m sorry but I dont buy that. Not for 1 damn minute. Haley knows how ugly of a season it has been, and how ugly its been for the fans, yet we continue to go to every game. Its obviously not about the money to us. Its about the experience. This season, the best part of each home game (except the Steelers game) is the 3 1/2 hours BEFORE the game. Tailgating. Drinking. Eating. Having fun! Then we go into the stadium, watch the team play, and what do we say when we get home? Idk about anyone else but I’m saying “Well we didnt win/got our ass kicked, but I still had fun”. Isnt that the point of football? Fun? Entertainment?
I can’t express how bad I want Haley, Pioli, and Cassel to work out. I mean, I’ve wanted them to work out since the start because of obvious reasons. But now, even though I’ve never met the guy, I feel like I have a grudge against Mr. Whitlock. And nothing would make me happier than watching those 3 guys succeed and him eat every Haley, “Egoli” and Cassel bashing article he’s written this past season.
by Petey14 on Dec 14, 2009 5:47 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
But
Knowing Whitlock, as someone mentioned above, he’ll never admit that he was wrong about them. He’ll simply change his articles and say he knew they’d pull through all along. He’ll start writing articles about other problems on the team and focusing on those.
Remember when we had the top offensive team in the league? Most of his articles never acknowledged that..he was too busy bashing the defense..which of course most of us were, but we’re (most of us) are REAL fans who dont focus on the bad ALL the time.
I realize its mostly in jest...
but Whitlocks countless ridiculous praises of Jeff George really sums up everything.
You really should get professional help. Your obsession with ND football is not healthy. ---Dr. lookingdeadred
by averagegatsby on Dec 14, 2009 5:52 PM CST up reply actions
Hmmm! I remember a certain petition that got LJ out of KC.
Well that’s my opinion anyway. It made TV news. I can smell a new one brewing. One to oust Jason Whitlock from our midst. He is an over officous jerk. Sorry. COULDN’T help myself.
It’s an idea anyway.
by krayfish on Dec 14, 2009 5:51 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
It would be much more satisfying
for us to take up a collection. Buy the Star, (Hey it can’t be worth more than a couple hundred bucks at this point) and take turns firing him.
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by KCSatchmo on Dec 14, 2009 6:00 PM CST up reply actions
He'll be the first person
to ever be gang fired.
by Tadpui on Dec 14, 2009 6:07 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I figure we can each fire him
3 times before he manages to waddle his way out of the building.
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by KCSatchmo on Dec 14, 2009 6:12 PM CST up reply actions
Hey satch..from here on out..
if you don’t like someone’s comment put “fired” after it..I’ll rehire them so u can re fire them…..that’ll be our gig if we don’t like a comment!
This idea
is the opposite of fail
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by KCSatchmo on Dec 14, 2009 6:21 PM CST up reply actions
I second that....end of recommendations.
We could yell at him “Fired”! “Re hired” …wait a second since your rehired Jason…I want you to know that you “Fired again”!! This could go on for days….“Fired” ….“Rehired” …
And yet
we all read his column. I will say this, I very rarely agree with JW, and he very often gets my blood pressure up, but I still read his stuff. His job is to stir the pot and get people talking; he’s very good at that. Even though I disagree with him 90% of the time, I still read his column more than any of the Star’s other writers.
I stopped reading Whitlock about a year and a half ago..
I just can’t stand all the negativity… Im the eternal optimist… Which is ironic because for the most part I despise everyone.
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by averagegatsby on Dec 14, 2009 6:08 PM CST up reply actions
I usually don't read it all...
I go to see what it will say….but don’t read it all.
I guess the Star gets my page visit either way, and that’s all he is there for…
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I agree with him and believe it
Coaches tend to stay away from the news/sports center involving football….they say that its for the fans…and it is.
Whitlock
is also becoming a bitter old man as this newfangled “blogging” thing that he doesn’t get pushes him toward irrelevance.
It probably doesn’t help his attitude that the Star is in it’s death thoes and he hasn’t managed a sucessful migration to ESPN or some other sucker employer yet.
The Kansas City Chief's 2009 record will be 5-11.
He left ESPN on bad terms...
Doubt he goes back.
You really should get professional help. Your obsession with ND football is not healthy. ---Dr. lookingdeadred
by averagegatsby on Dec 14, 2009 6:17 PM CST up reply actions
Whitlock's actually a national sports writer
He does work on FOXSports.com and previously worked for ESPN…he’s going to be just fine with or without blogging.
by Joel Thorman on Dec 14, 2009 6:17 PM CST up reply actions
Rehired!!
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by KCSatchmo on Dec 14, 2009 6:22 PM CST up reply actions
The media has been unfair all year.
I guess they are just pissed off they can’t walk around Arrowhead like they could when Carl was around.
Pioli is the one getting a free ride on his actions last off season. Funny how it was all the GM’s fault for the last 10 years around Arrowhead but now with the same collection or a new collection of piss poor players it is suddenly the coach’s fault.
by NFL season ticket holder on Dec 14, 2009 6:15 PM CST reply actions
I would disagree
You’re saying people think Herm wasn’t a problem last year? I feel the vast majority of people here would disagree with you. In fact, I can probably pull a comment from every person on here that said it was Herm and Carl, not just Carl.
And, I don’t think Pioli’s getting a pass at all. He’s currently being heavily criticized. Though, I will say, Carl was here for 20 years and didn’t get a Super Bowl, which is where a lot of the venom comes from. Pioli’s been here for 11 months. Big difference, IMO.
by Joel Thorman on Dec 14, 2009 6:19 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
That's part of the problem. Pioli will never get a fair handshake here unless he wins and wins quickly!
We’ve had enough losing here. Someone better get it right. And now with the invent of NFL Network, many more people are up on what’s happening in the off season a lot more. Around the league too. So thing’s are changing and people are more informed than ever before.
Pioli will never get half the chance Peterson did. Peterson used up 3 people’s get out of jail free cards.
Nick Wright
Is a joke! I have listened to his show 2 times and had to change the station within 10 minutes both times. It also seems he is really causing trouble at the press conferences with his questions. Earlier in the season Haley called him “The Derrick Johnson question guy” due to his constant concerns as to what Haley is doing with number 56. I think he should have his privelidges revoked before the next Coors Light commercial features Haley whipping his ass!
I can't stand Wright
But he hates Whitlock. I’m betting he asked the question in an attempt to make Whitlock look like a liar and/or idiot.
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by KCSatchmo on Dec 14, 2009 6:23 PM CST up reply actions
speaking of...
coors light commercials, as rowdy as haley has been on the sideline he always seems to keep his composure come press conference time. I want him to go ape @#$% one time at least! something for sportscenter. something to look back on like herm’s famous “hello…you play, to win, the game…”
Just like novocaine. give it time; always works..
The greater the fall, the grander the ascention..
bout a 4
I’d have gone with the Something About Mary “Step into my office” line
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by KCSatchmo on Dec 14, 2009 6:34 PM CST up reply actions
personally
i dont give a @@#$ what whitlock says. I respect him as a journalist, and someone who tries to be different and say what nobody else will say but I think he is a 2.7, or a T.O. to kansas city sports. namely the chiefs. Haley, in spite of any shortcoming he may possess…is a very passionate guy. I respect that, and I believe that what he says comes from his mind and from his heart.
Just like novocaine. give it time; always works..
The greater the fall, the grander the ascention..
Whitlock sucks, for sure, but I bet it’s that jackass flat-top turdface Jack Harry that got Haley a little pissed. That guy is a total clown, his rants are way off-base. Luckily, I saw him buying a six-pack at the Quik-Trip on 43rd and Main one time last year, and I told him he was totally lame. Yeah, that got ’em.
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