Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Login-facebook
Around SBN: Ohio State And Florida Target 2013 Receiver Recruits

Welcome Back, Dwayne Bowe

After serving a four game suspension for violating the NFL's substance abuse policy (apparently for taking a diuretic), Kansas City Chiefs WR Dwayne Bowe will be back in action against the Cleveland Browns this weekend.

Bowe was suspended back on November 17th and we haven't heard a peep out of him since.

How did the Chiefs do without Bowe? I've put some stats together for you to check out, after the jump.

Star-divide

With Bowe Without Bowe Difference
Avg. completions/game 18 19 +1
Avg. completion % 57.30% 52.20% -4.9%
Avg. passing yards/game 167 179 +12
Avg. QB rating 81.2 56.2 -25
W-L 2-7 1-3 -1
Avg. points/game 15.6 16 +0.4

As you can see, the diference between the Chiefs' offense with Bowe and without Bowe isn't that much. The most significant drop was in the QB rating, which dropped a very significant amount.

Other than that, there wasn't much difference in points per game, completions or yards.

Who stepped up on Bowe's absence? Here are the top Chief receivers over the last four games:

  • WR Chris Chambers (29 targets, 17 catches, 250 yards)
  • WR Bobby Wade (29 targets, 14 receptions, 107 yards)
  • RB Jamaal Charles (19 targets, 13 catches, 103 yards)
  • WR Lance Long (17 targets, 8 catches, 74 yards)
  • WR Mark Bradley (15 targets, 4 catches, 57 yards)
  • TE Leonard Pope (13 targets, 9 catches, 86 yards)

Chambers is clearly the cream of the crop here. Another note is that Jamaal Charles now leads the team in receptions with 34 - one behind Dwayne Bowe's 33. Bowe still leads by a wide margin in receiving yards with 466.

Thoughts on Bowe coming back? Will it make much difference?

Poll
Did the Chiefs miss Dwayne Bowe?
Not really
164 votes
Yes, he would have made a big difference
889 votes

1053 votes | Poll has closed

Comment 53 comments  |  0 recs  | 

Do you like this story?

Comments

Display:

I said not really.

Our running game has been our strength, and it has nothing to do with D-Bowe. I understand giving Cassel more opportunities/tools to bolster the passing game, but we still gave up 87 points in two weeks and shown that we can’t stop the run etc. etc. D-Bowe getting a touchdown in a meaningless game only helps fantasy owners.

Chiefs have 99 Problems and Cassel is ONLY one.

by jk86 on Dec 14, 2009 9:05 AM CST reply actions  

Those games became meaningless after missed opportunities and turnovers. It’s impossible to know what would have happened if we had scored more early and the momentum was ours instead of it snowballing.

If someone asks you if you want extra mayonnaise you have to say yes, cus that's part of it.
-Jared Allen

by JComp11 on Dec 14, 2009 9:44 AM CST up reply actions  

And the week before that?

And the week before that?
And the week before that?

A cursory glance at the rankings shows that this team is not very good defensively.

I'm not a Cassel fan or a Tamba Hali Fan or a Jamaal Charles fan. I'm a fan of the Kansas City Chiefs.

by jk86 on Dec 14, 2009 10:01 AM CST up reply actions  

I was talking about the four weeks he has been gone, because prior to that the team was actually showing improvement.

If someone asks you if you want extra mayonnaise you have to say yes, cus that's part of it.
-Jared Allen

by JComp11 on Dec 14, 2009 10:14 AM CST up reply actions  

I agree about the running game

but Bowe is clearly our best blocking receiver too. He makes blocks downfield that our other receivers cant. We just didnt notice it because LJ never made it downfield.

by kc_radrh8r on Dec 14, 2009 10:12 AM CST up reply actions  

whoa hold on

Adding a viable outside threat with run block capability doesn’t change how the defense lines up/plays?

Pretty sure teams are more afraid of letting d bowe go than bobby wade. He draws more attention outside, helping running plays, and blocks a hell of a lot better than our other receivers.

by g00dn1ghtm4r3 on Dec 14, 2009 12:27 PM CST up reply actions  

They kept calling Bowe our no.1 receiver

and kept talking about drops, like Bowe is the savior of our offense, he drops just as many as anyone else.

Good move by the Chiefs org, glad to see LJ gone.

by Eric Allen on Dec 14, 2009 9:11 AM CST reply actions  

And he's not a #1 receiver.

He doesn’t have the speed. He’s a VERY solid #2 option, mind you, but he wouldn’t be the #1 on most teams in the NFL.

I'm not a Cassel fan or a Tamba Hali Fan or a Jamaal Charles fan. I'm a fan of the Kansas City Chiefs.

by jk86 on Dec 14, 2009 9:14 AM CST up reply actions  

However

Teams play him like a #1 WR, trying to shut him down. They’ve been playing Chambers that way in his absence, and it hurts the offense. I do think it’ll help, but he’s hardly a savior. He’ll just keep some of the heat off Chambers while he’s in.

"I don't know if I want to go to New York. They'll have to pay me a lot more money because I like it here in Kansas City." -- Roger Maris

by KaloPhoenix on Dec 14, 2009 9:18 AM CST up reply actions  

Bowe has regressed,

along with OC, QB coach, we need a true receivers coach as well, What ever happened to that guy that made Kennison relevant again, if I am not mistaken he is coaching the Chargers receivers.

When will the Chiefs be a winning franchise again?

by Eric Allen on Dec 14, 2009 9:21 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed with you completely.

I'm not a Cassel fan or a Tamba Hali Fan or a Jamaal Charles fan. I'm a fan of the Kansas City Chiefs.

by jk86 on Dec 14, 2009 9:25 AM CST up reply actions  

@Kalo

I'm not a Cassel fan or a Tamba Hali Fan or a Jamaal Charles fan. I'm a fan of the Kansas City Chiefs.

by jk86 on Dec 14, 2009 9:26 AM CST up reply actions  

I voted "not really" as well.

He doesn’t bring the deep threat that we are missing. He is a big possession receiver who has unreliable hands. Yesterday was a good example. Those WR screens are never going to work if the DB’s aren’t worried about the deep ball. Until we have that threat, those plays are worthless. The DB’s get right up on our WR’s.

by BinSC on Dec 14, 2009 9:16 AM CST reply actions  

exactly

the lack of a deep threat is not on our receivers but on our qb who cant deliver the deep throw.

by MountainManMike on Dec 14, 2009 3:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Charles caught 68% of his passes, Pope caught 69% of his passes

Those two stepped up. This team has absolutely terrible receivers.

Honestly I think Charles alone has skewed those stats to show that Bowe made less of a difference than he really did.

If you only knew...

by IISaiNtII on Dec 14, 2009 9:17 AM CST reply actions  

Don't forget..

Most of those Bowe games came with Charles standing around on the sideline most of the time, while LJ was being ineffective.. so add Bowe’s production on top of Charles and we suddenly have some pretty nice weapons in there.

by Yashi on Dec 14, 2009 9:18 AM CST reply actions  

good point

im excited to see what they can do with everyone on the field at the same time.

by MountainManMike on Dec 14, 2009 3:28 PM CST up reply actions  

bowe makes a difference by giving the defense another option to prepare for

he’s better than mark bradley and lance long. he’s probably better than chris chambers. he drops some passes but he has made more big receptions than anyone this year. plus, and this is big, bowe is the only receiver left that cassel has worked with all year dating back to offseason ota’s. he will help.

The only players I hurt with my words are the ones who have an inflated opinion of their ability. I can't worry about that.
Bill Parcells

Knowledge is confidence. And confidence lets you play fast.
Bill Parcells

by kcguy on Dec 14, 2009 9:20 AM CST reply actions  

I would have to argue that he is not better than Chambers,

Chambers has one thing that Bowe does not, speed, and that cannot be coached. I would make the argument that his hands have been more reliable. I know the big drop yesterday, but still.

When will the Chiefs be a winning franchise again?

by Eric Allen on Dec 14, 2009 9:23 AM CST up reply actions  

heyward-bey is fast but isn't good

speed isn’t the end all be all. i think chambers is good but bowe has the penchant for making big plays like against dallas and jacksonville

The only players I hurt with my words are the ones who have an inflated opinion of their ability. I can't worry about that.
Bill Parcells

Knowledge is confidence. And confidence lets you play fast.
Bill Parcells

by kcguy on Dec 14, 2009 9:37 AM CST up reply actions  

maybe it was oakland and not jacksonville. i can't really remember since it's been a month since he played

The only players I hurt with my words are the ones who have an inflated opinion of their ability. I can't worry about that.
Bill Parcells

Knowledge is confidence. And confidence lets you play fast.
Bill Parcells

by kcguy on Dec 14, 2009 9:39 AM CST up reply actions  

You could also argue that he is though

I don’t really see the knock on Dwayne Bowe’s speed. Running a 4.57 at the combine and 4.48 at pro day isn’t that slow. I think the main thing Chambers has over Bowe is route running skills. You can’t argue the numbers Bowe has put up in the first few years in the league. There are very few WR that produce those numbers so early. Especially on a team without a legit QB for the first two years. I would like to see him burst off the line a little better, but I believe Bowe is already a legit #1 with upside to be amazing.

by groundedchevy on Dec 14, 2009 9:45 AM CST up reply actions  

I just hope Bowe was doing something productive during his mini-vacation

like catching lots and lots of balls. I want to see him looking sharp out there for the final three games.

Predictions:

Kansas City will not win more than four games in 2009
Kansas City will have a new OC and DC in 2010
Kansas City will win at least seven games in 2010

by jmcgoblue on Dec 14, 2009 9:31 AM CST reply actions  

how can he NOT help?

I understand people being down on the team and the WR..

but, seriously… Bowe is a real threat at receiver, and he does what KC has trouble doing without him… SCORES TDs! Sure, he drops a few, but he IS a productive receiver that defenses have to try and stop.

this offense needs all the weapons they can get. You can argue that Chambers is as good as Bowe, but you can’t tell me that Bowe doesn’t make the WR group and the offense better…

AND, I could care less if he’s a “#1” receiver or not… that is a stupid argument, IMHO…
he IS a good receiver, and he IS better than most of the guys KC has been throwing to.

Hopefully, he’s coming back motivated to make up for lost time!

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers

by stagdsp on Dec 14, 2009 9:33 AM CST reply actions  

+1

Bowe frustratingly drops some of the easiest catches, but he also has a knack of making the spectacular ones. He’s been money on fade routes in the end-zone.

Predictions:

Kansas City will not win more than four games in 2009
Kansas City will have a new OC and DC in 2010
Kansas City will win at least seven games in 2010

by jmcgoblue on Dec 14, 2009 9:40 AM CST up reply actions  

Also

I can’t help but think what would have happened if some of those bubble screens were going to Bowe instead of Wade or Long. Neither of those guys are capable of breaking tackles, but let’s see those little corners try to bring down Bowe.

by Yashi on Dec 14, 2009 10:44 AM CST up reply actions  

Stag

The only thing inaccurate about your response is:
he IS better than most of the guys KC has been throwing to.
It should have been written as:
he IS better than ALL the guys KC has been throwing to

by Chief1 on Dec 14, 2009 5:51 PM CST up reply actions  

i vote yes

he would add to the drop passes.

by Shutters on Dec 14, 2009 9:41 AM CST reply actions  

no way!

he’s got a future here

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers

by stagdsp on Dec 14, 2009 9:55 AM CST up reply actions  

not true, IMO

we’ll agree to disagree on this one

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers

by stagdsp on Dec 14, 2009 2:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Why?

His inability to avoid defenders launching into his 5’10" frame provides some great Sports Center highlights!

Predictions:

Kansas City will not win more than four games in 2009
Kansas City will have a new OC and DC in 2010
Kansas City will win at least seven games in 2010

by jmcgoblue on Dec 14, 2009 9:55 AM CST up reply actions  

Seriously though, I agree with Stag

I want to at least see how he looks in training camp next season. He’s shown some ability to get open, and he’s very young/raw, so there’s room for dramatic improvement.

Predictions:

Kansas City will not win more than four games in 2009
Kansas City will have a new OC and DC in 2010
Kansas City will win at least seven games in 2010

by jmcgoblue on Dec 14, 2009 9:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Why?

Cause his inability to make people miss may get him killed. Some of the shots he is taking are as bad or worse than a car wreck!

by Chief1 on Dec 14, 2009 5:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed

Fitst good statement I have heard about Long, I’ll be glad when he is lonnnnng gone. He looks and plays like some high schooler.

Jerome

by easyjb on Dec 14, 2009 10:01 AM CST up reply actions  

Why?

Hes so scrappy and hes got heart!
Nevermind he has no talent or ability…

I'd rather die on my feet than be living on my knees

by ArrowDread on Dec 14, 2009 11:55 AM CST up reply actions  

He needs to learn how to shield himself against these hits...

Otherwise, he will be in casket by seasons end. I give him this much, he is one tough SOB.

by Chiefsfan1970 on Dec 14, 2009 10:09 AM CST reply actions  

Bowe could best help the team if he could learn to tackle.

The offense hasn’t really missed him that much. The defense could use all the help they can get…

by BinSC on Dec 14, 2009 1:18 PM CST reply actions  

How many?

How many passing TD have we scored in the last 4 weeks? I’m pretty sure the offense needs just as much help as the defense if not more.

by groundedchevy on Dec 14, 2009 2:09 PM CST up reply actions  

agreed.... MORE

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers

by stagdsp on Dec 14, 2009 2:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe the defense needs to step up

and start scoring themselves. lazy bastards!

If you only knew...

by IISaiNtII on Dec 14, 2009 2:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Bowe greatly miss in the offense

Its no coincidence Cassell been struggling since Bowe left. With no depth at receiver its a wonder we beat Pittsburg without the guy. Wouldn’t be surprise if we blow the Browns out come Sunday. Now with a solid run game to complement what Bowe brings to the passing game I expect our offense to put up more pts this week than any other week this season.

by joed2001 on Dec 14, 2009 8:13 PM CST reply actions  

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

Welcome to SB Nation's Kansas City Chiefs blog! Follow us on Facebook and on Twitter.

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recommended FanPosts

Small
Some clarity on Peyton's injury
Crennelgatoradebathposterizedrough_small
Brian Daboll: Another Perspective
Dxmcc_copy_small
Why Drafting Robert Griffin Is Not Optional For The Kansas City Chiefs
Stag_20silhouette_small
Weekly Official AP Mock-tastic Thread 1/31-2/6 Post-Senior-Bowl-edition

Recent FanPosts

Small
The Three Most WTF Moments of the Chiefs Season
Okoye_small
Setting the Trenches: Offensive Line
Chiefs_logo_small
Need some help, KC trip
9aaaa629560faa267f0a91faca7f420d-getty-135962716_small
Ben Grubbs.
Small
2012 Free Agency & Draft Predictions
Tobias_small
Options At Quarterback for 2012
Small
Nation Wide Mock Draft
Images_small
Flowers vs Carr: 1 vs 2??
Eric-berry_small
My Chiefs Offseason based off of scenarios
Small
I guess I did get knocked off, and I understand why

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >


Managers

23247_617116905_1805_n_small Chris Thorman

Headshot_small Joel Thorman

Editors

288-chiefstexans0944_sp_8-15-09_jfs woodman212

Matt_ssv_pic_small_small Matt Conner

Stag_20silhouette_small stagdsp

Lips-rhps_small upamtn

Contributors

Kc_ny_small NJ Chiefs Fan

Phoenix_by_melen_small KaloPhoenix

N1358340181_30185582_5800_small Flowers24

Small Jon Yoon

Dirkness_small HisDirkness

Cassel_small Steve_in_RI