Five Good Stats from the Chiefs' Loss to the Bills
by Chris Thorman on Dec 14, 2009 7:45 AM CST
in 2009 Kansas City Chiefs Campaign
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Yesterday's loss to the Buffalo Bills was demoralizing, disappointing and downright ugly on the offensive side of the ball. Jamaal Charles' 76-yard TD run was one of the few bright spots in a now rather dismal stretch of games for the Chiefs.
Nevertheless, I was able to find five really good stats that should make you feel better about yesterday's game. We're talking about:
- 3rd down efficiency
- Rushing yards
- Tamba Hali
- Tyson Jackson
- Forcing turnovers
It's all there, after the jump.
Third down efficiency, on both sides of the ball
The Chiefs were a ridiculous 7/18 on third downs yesterday. That isn't an especially impressive percentage (39%) but a high number of conversions is great for this team. Coming into this game, the Chiefs were on pace to have the worst 3rd down efficiency in NFL history. I hope those 7 conversions puts them out of the woods on that stat.
The Chiefs held the Bills to only a 25% third down efficiency. They were 3/12. One of those conversions was a 1-yard run; another was the touchdown pass to Terrell Owens; and the last one was an 8-yard scramble by Ryan Fitzpatrick on 3rd and 4. Not exactly strong plays, aside from the TD.
Seven third down conversions is the best on the season for the Chiefs, topping the six we had against Pittsburgh.
152 yards rushing
Jamaal Charles had 143 of those yards and 76 of his came on on one one, beautiful run. Tim Castille added 9 yards on 4 carries.
152 total yards rushing is the best performance since Week 2 against the Raiders when the Chiefs rushed for 173 yards.
More from Tamba Hali
It was another great day from Tamba Hali. He had a sack and two QB hits. If you watched the game, you also noticed Hali getting plenty of pressure on Fitzpatrick off that right side throughout the game.
Is this defense coming together?
Three turnovers forced
Even though the Chiefs weren't able to capitalize on their three turnovers, that doesn't mean the defense didn't do a good job.
Mike Vrabel forced a Ryan Fitzpatrick fumble. Brandon Carr stripped Bills WR Shawn Nelson and recovered the fumble. And Brandon Flowers had a pick in the end zone. It was a great effort by the Chiefs' D.
The defense did a lot to help win this game. The Chiefs' offense did not get it done.
Tyson Jackson's best game?
The Chiefs' first round pick had 8 tackles yesterday, his highest total of the season. His second best game was 7 tackles and that was Week 9 against Jacksonville. Jackson's next highest tackle total is 3 and he has 4 games this year without a tackle.
I'm not saying tackle stats are the end all be a evaluation of Tyson Jackson. But when you see his tackle numbers jump like that, something's clicking for the #3 overall pick.
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Without stretching it too much, you definitely have some bright statistics in this game. Anything else stand out to you?
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Thanks for this!
I needed to read something positive about yesterday’s game this morning. Was pretty heart-broken that we lost yesterday but, thankfully, beer helped numbed the pain!!!
Kind of surprised at the voting results
Tamba has been great for us and all, but he doesn’t deserve the “best stat honor” for yesterday. It was a toss up for me between rushing yards and turnovers forced. Without either of those two (Charles’ long TD run, Flowers’ end zone INT) the score would have been skewed much more badly.
The D did much better this week. The rushing yards was a problem, but losing Dorsey hurts us. I’m not ready to say the D is “coming together” though. The last two lost games to our rivals won’t be so easily forgotten. They need to continue geting better on D before I’ll say this was any more than an exception to teh rule.
Sorry if I seem a little dsown on the Chiefs today. I’m still pretty pissed.
Everyone stop. Take a deep breath. Count backwards from 10.
Ok. Now remember that the back up QB is ALWAYS the most popular guy in town when a team is this bad. Matt will bounce back. He had one of the best TD to INT ratios for the first several weeks of the season. Chill out people.
by Red N Gold Beast on Dec 14, 2009 8:10 AM CST reply actions
Yeah, pretty pissed myself
we are staring down the barrel of 3-13, have we turned into the Detroit Lions? I am pretty down, just seems like there is no end in sight to the losing.:(
Good move by the Chiefs org, glad to see LJ gone.
Looking at what Tamba has overcome his entire life,
and making the transition to olb the way he has, I think he is the bright spot on our team.
Good move by the Chiefs org, glad to see LJ gone.
im just waiting for the Tamba Hali story to come movie wise...
since michael oher got his movie.
by MountainManMike on Dec 14, 2009 3:38 PM CST up reply actions
Don't be too down about it!
Buffalo is (sadly) our overall equal, and I’d say that overall we outplayed them. Honestly at this point in the season I’d rather just play well but find a way to lose. I know it’s not a popular attitude, but in this year in particular I think it’s to our long-term benefit to have a better draft position (more so for the 2nd, 3rd, & 4th rounds).
The ONE game that I do want KC to win though is the game at Denver. I will take a 1-2 record with a Denver win over a 2-1 record with a loss at Denver. Knocking them out of the playoffs would make an awful season much better.
Predictions:
Kansas City will not win more than four games in 2009
Kansas City will have a new OC and DC in 2010
Kansas City will win at least seven games in 2010
by jmcgoblue on Dec 14, 2009 9:18 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I like your outlook there
as long as the team doesn’t think that, I don’t totally disagree :)
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers
Yes Eric we have become the Detroit Lions
….looking at the past 3 seasons (up until this week) both teams have a total of 9 wins.
2007……………….2008……………………2009
Detroit ……………….7-9…………………0-16…………………….2-11
KC……………………4-12……………….2-14…………………….3-10
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
that was a stat i didnt need to see
please attach a warning to stats like that in the future…or have some strong koolaid sitting there for us after such a stat.
by MountainManMike on Dec 14, 2009 3:41 PM CST up reply actions
I'd really like to see the Defense "step up" against a good team.
Seems the only time we’re decent is against below-average QB’s. The Star this morning credited offensive woes but we still gave up 200 yards on the ground to 2 RB’s, our team generally gives up about 500 yards of offense, and we had back-to-back weeks where we gave up 40+ points.
I’d say the defense is quite a problem.
Chiefs have 99 Problems and Cassel is ONLY one.
Losing Dorsey hurts
and I’m saying the weakest position on this team right now is NT. There are lots of poor spots on this team, but Ron Edwards consistently gets shoved off the line of scrimmage by ONE guy when he should be occupying two.
I’m not saying it’ll fix all our defensive woes, but even just a “good” NT is going to let Dorsey, TJ, and our ILB’s get free more often. That makes run stopping better (if our ILB’s learn to take the correct angle), and it means the offense doesn’t get to double and triple team Tamba all game and take away the pressure.
As bad as our offense is, a NT upgrade might make the most significant difference on the team next year. Get Pickett and Hampton on the phone (love Wilfork, but not good chance on that).
"I don't know if I want to go to New York. They'll have to pay me a lot more money because I like it here in Kansas City." -- Roger Maris
The defense still needs work, to be sure.
However, they are showing signs of improvement amongst individual players if not the whole unit. Certainly the defense played well enough to win the game yesterday. The offense, on the other hand is horrendous. It is going to take some serious upgrades at several positions to make the offense viable during the off season. Let’ just hope the right choices are made.
I said 3rd down efficiency
because it was improved against a pretty good pass defense. We need the offense to start sustaining more drives…it’ll make the D look much better as well. Rushing yards aren’t so impressive to me, because they came against one of the worst run defenses. The turnovers came against an awful QB, so that’s not saying much. Tamba was good, but that’s becoming an expectation now. Tyson Jackson was a nice surprise in the stat sheet, but for some reason I don’t remember seeing him that much during the game.
Predictions:
Kansas City will not win more than four games in 2009
Kansas City will have a new OC and DC in 2010
Kansas City will win at least seven games in 2010
Same here I remember only once or twice
Hearing him make a good play. It still seems like he gets pushed around too much and doesn’t really have a nose for the ball.
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by Scaryclouds on Dec 14, 2009 9:49 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
The one that stuck out the most to me was a big solo run stuff on 3rd and short.
Good to see him make plays like that. Can’t wait to see the finished product he brings after he’s up to NFL speed. If we can land a big, young NT, we’ll have a decent to above average DL for many years.
Everyone stop. Take a deep breath. Count backwards from 10.
Ok. Now remember that the back up QB is ALWAYS the most popular guy in town when a team is this bad. Matt will bounce back. He had one of the best TD to INT ratios for the first several weeks of the season. Chill out people.
by Red N Gold Beast on Dec 14, 2009 11:22 AM CST up reply actions
Defense is not coming together
We got killed by the run…again. This D is set on the outside with Jackson/Dorsey, Hali/Vrabel/Studebaker, and Flowers/Carr. The entire interior needs gutted – new NT, new MLB’s, new Safety’s.
I'm going to have to call out Tyson Jackson.
The reason why he got some many tackles is because their entire offense was centered around the fact that they could run to the left and if it wasn’t open then they could cut back to Tyson Jackson anytime they wanted for a decent gain. He couldn’t contain at all on the back end and it cost us BIG in this game.
With these positives, Chiefs have something to look forward to...
a 3-13 record means nothing because Chiefs will turn that corner in the near future!
"Is this defense coming together?"
Of course not. Giving up 200 yards on the ground is not a sign of a defense ‘coming together’.
Yeah I agree with that point
simply because we need a nose tackle. Edwards is not getting two blockers to commit to him consistantly and as such, we are unable to truly free up the linebackers.
Rank of skill of playing QB for the Chiefs
Cassel > Brodie's wife > Brodie
by IowaChiefFan on Dec 14, 2009 12:29 PM CST up reply actions
Other good stuff
- Pass defense… 83 yds passing for Fitz… no big long pass plays
- Pope had a decent game, 4 catches for 45 yds is about what I expect from a Chiefs TE nowadays
- Cassel was very accurate and solid in the first half (yes, he didn’t play as well in the 2nd half, but the INTs were certainly not all his fault, and he did lead the team down the field and gave them a chance to win… they just didn’t get it done)
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers
oh, and on Charles's Big run...
the execution was sweet… he was lightning quick to get the handoff and hit the line, and Waters blocked at least 3 Bills to the inside, creating a HUGE running lane
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers
good stats...
We lost again, there’s a stat we’re at the top in. But when your starting QB can fumble F**k week after week without fear of being benched, where is the surprise? Pioli cut some defensive personnel to make room on the roster for New England’s cast-offs, but won’t let his New England QB be benched although he really sucks, and we can’t win…mystery there! If Pioli wants to have Patriots on his roster, fine, send him back to Foxborough. And he can take that pathetic joke Haley with him. With his play calling talents, any team would want him… and since he rides the short bus, they wouldn’t need to provide him with a ride.
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