Matt Cassel Shows His Frustration With Booing Fans
by Chris Thorman on Dec 13, 2009 5:33 PM CST
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PrintWith 1:10 left in the first half and the Chiefs down by a touchdown, Chiefs QB Matt Cassel led the Chiefs on a 27-yard drive that ended near mid-field.
Cassel hit Bobby Wade on a long third down for a 22-yard gain. He also hit Chris Chambers for 10 yards to get the Chiefs to the Buffalo 48-yard line. Then a sack; 1-yard pass; and two incomplete passes shut down the Chiefs' chances of getting a late first half score.
When Cassel's 4th and 15 pass hit the ground, the boo birds of Arrowhead came out.
And so did Matt Cassel's frustration. Here's what he had to say to the booing fans of Arrowhead:
I'm not 100% but I'm close:
Cassel said "Shut the **** up" to the booing fans. Joel tells me that there were quite a few folks at the stadium talking about this.
Cassel isn't used to losing, playing on great USC teams in college and of course the New England Patriots in the NFL.
I guess the boo birds got to him today. Can't say I blame him for being frustrated. At the time, Cassel was playing a pretty great game. Here are his first half stats:
- 18/24
- 145 yards
- 89.9 QB rating
Did Cassel have a right to be frustrated by booing fans at the end of the first half? Yeah, I think he did. Those numbers are pretty great considering what the Chiefs have been putting up.
Here's what Cassel had to say after the game about the fans:
"Hey, they’re allowed to do whatever they want. They pay the money to come here and we have to perform.”
“You know, it’s frustrating not to be winning; that’s really what it is. You come out and put so much hard work in each and every week and to not have the production all the time on Sunday and putting up the W’s for the fans, for us and for everybody, it’s frustrating.”
Chiefs fans, take it easy on Cassel. He's putting with a lot of BS this season, especially with the dropped passes. He deserves better from Chiefs fans.
H/T to C.E. Wendler of WPI for the video.
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"Let the Raider fans boo their players. We’re better than that."
If someone asks you if you want extra mayonnaise you have to say yes, cus that's part of it.
-Jared Allen
by JComp11 on Dec 13, 2009 5:37 PM CST reply actions 24 recs
+3
We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09. Almost there :)
And Succop will be the Key in two of them. Skins & Raiders! Pittsburgh Sweet!
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
by Steve_Chiefs on Dec 13, 2009 5:42 PM CST up reply actions
Those of you voting No
Let us know your thoughts.
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At the time
He was playing pretty well, which is the key.
by Joel Thorman on Dec 13, 2009 5:40 PM CST up reply actions
That’s irrelevant to me. You don’t boo your own players.
If someone asks you if you want extra mayonnaise you have to say yes, cus that's part of it.
-Jared Allen
by JComp11 on Dec 13, 2009 5:42 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
um i was there
and yes he deserved it… today’s loss lies on his shoulders he had and has had plenty of opportunities to show me what he can do as a quarterback with or without time… he can stfu himself… play better if you don’t wanna get booed!!!! dumb a**
Um good for you.
How does it lie on his shoulders? Did you see the ball bounce off Chambers hands? He deserves some of the blame, but this loss doesn’t "lie on his shoulders.
If someone asks you if you want extra mayonnaise you have to say yes, cus that's part of it.
-Jared Allen
I think they booed because of those bad passes at the end of the half
If you thought they looked bad on tv you should of seen them live. Im not saying we as Chiefs fans should boo our players but it wasnt pretty.
I’m not sure that the bad passes call for putting the blame for the loss completely on Cassel. By the way, after hearing what Chambers had to say last week, how does anyone know whether it was even Cassel or if the receivers just ran the wrong routes again?
If someone asks you if you want extra mayonnaise you have to say yes, cus that's part of it.
-Jared Allen
Im not blaming the loss on Cassel
that loss goes for everyone from Cassel to Haley to every player on the team. Im just saying that why the crowd was getting frustrated b/c it looked like they had no clue what they where doing out on the field
And also...
after the game, he was asked about the booing, and said fans were entitled to express their feelings, because they bought their tickets.
John
"Gentlemen! You can't fight in here. This is the War Room!"
Yeah
Chris is adding those quotes in right now. He forgot.
Luckily there’s an editor around here :)
by Joel Thorman on Dec 13, 2009 5:44 PM CST up reply actions
Couldn't agree more...
He has been absolutely awful the last few games, and he played an ok half. We were still losing and the fans were obviously frustrated that we were once again putting up next to no points on the board. The fans pay to go to the game, they pay for the team gear, they have a right to boo.
by 5280ChiefsFan on Dec 13, 2009 7:49 PM CST up reply actions
its certainly a lot nicer than what a lot of fans yell at their tv...
isn’t the old adage to say something to a person’s face and not behind their back? lol.
by MountainManMike on Dec 14, 2009 1:24 AM CST up reply actions
3 points in 1st half
I’d say the reaction isn’t 100% geared towards Cassel, but how many of those completions were short-yardage? Short-yard passes beef up his completion percentage. Let’s not overlook two of those incomplete passes to Bradley would’ve put 6 points on the board.
Don’t get me wrong, Cassel threw some nice passes. But remember, he’s the quarterback of the present/future, yet we’re still watching Thigpen highlight reels from last year.
well said
I wasn’t booing but if I were, it would be aimed at the entire offense save JC. People pay a lot of hard earned money to see those Chiefs and they are justified putting pressure on the entire organization to get this thing fixed. I only have one problem with Matt’s play and it is the over throws all season long. Outside of his missing the long ball consistently, I don’t think most of his play is all that bad. So I say boo away fellow Chiefs fans but let it be aimed in the right direction…not one player.
They paid their money
or not
We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09. Almost there :)
And Succop will be the Key in two of them. Skins & Raiders! Pittsburgh Sweet!
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
The fans are frustrated too
They boo at seemingly inappropriate times, but it is the accumulation of all the horrendous play this team has put on the field all season.
So if you look at that one series of plays under a microscope by themselves, it might seem totally unreasonable. But you can’t. The Chiefs have been bad all season and every failure they have on the field is a continuation of that. Not as though its the first time all season.
So that has to be kept in mind too.
a fair amount of dropped passes this year can be attributed to Cassel never hitting his guys exactly where they should. And this was another terrible game from him. The missed opportunities outweigh the handful of completions he had.
a fair amount of dropped passes this year can be attributed to Cassel never hitting his guys exactly where they should
In the hands? The dropped passes stats comes from passes that were deemed catchable, not ones the players had to dive for.
If someone asks you if you want extra mayonnaise you have to say yes, cus that's part of it.
-Jared Allen
Yeah
Not every pass will be perfect…but they can still be catchable.
by Joel Thorman on Dec 13, 2009 5:46 PM CST up reply actions
+1
"Gonna gallop all over the Chiefs. Cleat prints on the chests. Mud in the face masks." - 2.7* *Yes I know it was changed to 2.9 but f*ck the statisticians.
by Kristospherein on Dec 13, 2009 5:56 PM CST up reply actions
I'm one of the most anti-Cassel guys on here but...
the problems today were NOT his fault. Had Chambers made the EASY TD catch at the end we wouldn’t be having this conversation right now.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Dec 13, 2009 9:13 PM CST up reply actions
yeah
and if he didn’t overthrow mark bradley in the endzone twice and he dived for it we would of one of course its his fault!
Fans that boo this team have unrealistic expectations.
If someone asks you if you want extra mayonnaise you have to say yes, cus that's part of it.
-Jared Allen
by JComp11 on Dec 13, 2009 5:46 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Expecting your team to play like professionals rather than High Schoolers?
I don’t think that is unreasonable at all.
Agreed, DJ.
-Erykah Badu, I have accepted your proposal. So, Mrs. DTR, let's get to consummating...you are on notice.
-"All praise Chiefus."
by DThomasReigns on Dec 13, 2009 5:54 PM CST up reply actions
oh yah
so you think that the first half of play was our team playing like high schoolers. i thought we played a pretty damn good first half. had some missed opportunities but the over all play was the best first half we’ve had all season.
UCrawford will eventually calm down and realize that Haley isn't a bad coach.
Will embrace the Fire Haley Bandwagon if we lose to the raiders by more then a TD...
..But we aren't going to lose.
LJ will not land in Pittsburgh
The Chiefs will not be the number one pick in this years draft
The Chiefs first pick of the draft will NOT be a OL
Thinks UCrawford just needs a hug... offer is there when you are ready UC :p
They scored 3 points
I don’t care how many yards you get. You don’t win based on yardage.
They cannot convert 3rd downs (25% again today) to keep drives going and continue making poor decisions, both in play calling, picking who to throw to and game managment. Those are things that should be learning in High School, not in the NFL.
They're just as bad as us actually
We’re both hovering around the NFL record low, I think.
by Joel Thorman on Dec 13, 2009 6:11 PM CST up reply actions
and that my friend is where your unrealistic expectations come in
how many times this year have we moved the ball well in the first half. none. but that isn’t good enough for you. the fact that the offense was clicking most of the first half wasn’t, something we haven’t done all year, good enough for you. don’t get me wrong, i want this team to score, and i sure as hell want this team to win, but the fact is as JComp said we have almost zero talent. we aren’t going to learn to score in the first half over night. as bad as our offense has been all year, let alone in the first half, our first half performance today was an obvious improvement. but i guess improvement isn’t good enough is it.
UCrawford will eventually calm down and realize that Haley isn't a bad coach.
Will embrace the Fire Haley Bandwagon if we lose to the raiders by more then a TD...
..But we aren't going to lose.
LJ will not land in Pittsburgh
The Chiefs will not be the number one pick in this years draft
The Chiefs first pick of the draft will NOT be a OL
Thinks UCrawford just needs a hug... offer is there when you are ready UC :p
Asking me to be happy about the Chiefs 1st half performance today is like
asking me to be thrilled at finding corn and peanuts in a pile of crap.
We have lack of talent in spots that need to be addressed. But saying we have “zero” talent is flat out wrong and an excuse for poor coaching. No team has “zero” talent.
I do not expect this team to be perfect. I don’t even expect them to win. I do expect them to play like an NFL team for 60 minutes and they still haven’t done that in a single game this year.
So you can look at a chunk of a game and say “Why can’t you be happy about the 2 drives they moved the ball in this game, even though they choked when they got close and were inconsistent in their game managment as usual”, but that doesn’t change the fact that they continue to stink for the majority of the time.
The Chiefs dominated time of possession in the 1st half 18:16 to 11:44 and were behind 10 to 3. Time of possession and yardage means nothing if you can’t close the deal.
For once, DJ, I've got to agree.
At some point this progress—and I’ve seen flashes—needs to turn into product.
Getting “3” from Succop is nice, but we need to start putting up more points than that, especially with a nearly 7-minute time of possession difference.
"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"
-Marty Schottenheimer
by go_saleaumua on Dec 13, 2009 9:52 PM CST up reply actions
and in there lies the point
people that continue to complain are the ones that seem to forget that we have been nothing more then a stinking pile of crap for the past 3 years. i’m not saying we were great today, but at least we show signs that our crap doesn’t stink as much. yes we need production, yes we need need to score, yes we need to win, but you have to learn to walk before you can run. baby steps first and the fact that our offense looked like an offense for 18 min is a step in the right direction.
i am in 100% agreeance that eventually we need to produce some results, i’m just not in agreeance that we should have turn the corner already. just like if a baby keeps putting one foot in front of the other eventually they are not going to fall down, if we keep producing drives, eventually we have to score. this was never going to be a quick or easy turn around.
UCrawford will eventually calm down and realize that Haley isn't a bad coach.
Will embrace the Fire Haley Bandwagon if we lose to the raiders by more then a TD...
..But we aren't going to lose.
LJ will not land in Pittsburgh
The Chiefs will not be the number one pick in this years draft
The Chiefs first pick of the draft will NOT be a OL
Thinks UCrawford just needs a hug... offer is there when you are ready UC :p
+1 JComp
"Gonna gallop all over the Chiefs. Cleat prints on the chests. Mud in the face masks." - 2.7* *Yes I know it was changed to 2.9 but f*ck the statisticians.
by Kristospherein on Dec 13, 2009 5:56 PM CST up reply actions
I'm always up for a little Cardinals bashing!
I kid, I kid…
by Joel Thorman on Dec 13, 2009 5:46 PM CST up reply actions
That is a very immature response by Cassel
Yes, the booing is terrible, but he needs to be above that type of response.
This is about his reaction and not about the booing by the fans being right or wrong.
Cassel has a lot to learn about being a quarterback and leader. He is inexperienced as far as his play and demeanor.
I desperately want him to succeed, but he has to survive and learn from the adversity of this season. He played an average to poor game even at this point in the game, and has all season.
We need a QB coach to buffer him from Haley and to provide an appropriate amount of perspective and mentoring.
-Erykah Badu, I have accepted your proposal. So, Mrs. DTR, let's get to consummating...you are on notice.
-"All praise Chiefus."
It was an immature response...
but how exactly would you have responded in his position? I think he’s held up pretty well over the course of the season and if THAT is the extent of his frustration at the fans, then I’m ok with it.
"Gonna gallop all over the Chiefs. Cleat prints on the chests. Mud in the face masks." - 2.7* *Yes I know it was changed to 2.9 but f*ck the statisticians.
by Kristospherein on Dec 13, 2009 5:54 PM CST up reply actions
The fact that he physicalized his response is the problem.
He can think it, but succumbing to the degree of saying it knowing cameras are on him shows how he is not handling the pressure well…from the HC all the way to the fans.
-Erykah Badu, I have accepted your proposal. So, Mrs. DTR, let's get to consummating...you are on notice.
-"All praise Chiefus."
by DThomasReigns on Dec 13, 2009 5:57 PM CST up reply actions
If him muttering to himself...
is the biggest sign of Cassel’s frustration, I can certainly live with that. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again – this guy is playing behind the worst offensive line in the NFL and he has absolutely no one to throw to. He’s been getting his head beat in every Sunday for the past three months, I don’t know what more Chiefs fans can ask of this guy other than him not totally melting down before the season is over. This year has been a train wreck, I’m not sold that he’s been getting coached up right anyway, and that just adds to his troubles. Give the guy an O-Coordinator to work with, maybe somebody to throw to who might actually catch a pass from time-to-time in a clutch situation, let him work on his deep throws, because he’s awful at those, and who knows, this kid might turn into something. But as fans, if we think this year has been frustrating for us – imagine how Cassel feels. He’s a competitor, and there’s no denying that. He’s frustrated and tired of losing, and it showed with what he said. I can live with him and the fans being angry.
www.coachesaid.com/mo
I have deffinatly been bashing Cassel, but I see nothing wrong with his comment that was to HIMSELF.
So from my point of view I watched alot of good things to go along with the bad today.
The first thing I saw and a very important piece Cassel was EFFECTIVLY looking the defence off and cycling through his progressions (MUCH better).
He showed his flustration and was undoubtidly giving 110% today. I only credit Cassel with 1 INT today and it was a bad one but did not lose the game and this was clearly his best game as a Chief even with the turnovers.
We have been playing without D_Bowe witch is a big deal and does limit our WR options.
He was off target on both balls he threw long but he does not have much of a relationship with his WRs yet and on deep passes is where that will show up just as much as timing routes witch were better today. I did not enclude the last hail marry because I tought it was catchable Cottam was OBVIOUSLY held down by the corner and it should of been 1st and goal with no time left.
Cassel was accurate today with his passes, overall it was a much improved performance and I really want to see what we do with Bowe on the field now that the team is comming together alittle more.
Yes that means Cassel showed enough good things today that I am with him being the guy. With some upgrades and three more decent games I won’t even push for someone else to come in. Yea I am calling a 4 Int game decent but you have to look at the variables and it relly was a decent outing and can only really put the blame on Cassel for 1 Int because the other one the forced pass to Chambers on 4th down was desperation and I’m happy that he tried to make a play. If it wasn’t for an excellent play by Buffalos defender that would of been a first down to but it got tipped.
by kcchiefstd on Dec 13, 2009 7:43 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
exactly Hippie
"Gonna gallop all over the Chiefs. Cleat prints on the chests. Mud in the face masks." - 2.7* *Yes I know it was changed to 2.9 but f*ck the statisticians.
by Kristospherein on Dec 13, 2009 5:57 PM CST up reply actions
I really have no problem with what Cassel did
Its not like he did it during an interview or something.
He takes pride and like all of us when his work is criticized, he got upset. No big deal. Im sure he was just saying it to himself. Who hasn’t?
I don’t fault Cassel for his reaction in the way it was expressed, but neither do I fault the fans for booing.
Is anyone surprised?
Don’t get me wrong. It sucks to watch the Chiefs play as poorly as they are right now. But the majority of us new this year would be a struggle and now we seem to be jumping ship because we can’t handle what we knew was coming. The only thing that matters is winning right? We already have one more win than last year. That’s progress. You are what your record says you are.
our record says that we r still an awful team...that should be moved to the UFL or CFL.
ok, maybe thats a little harsh but just because we have one more win than last year doesnt mean we r a better team…just that there was one more team this year out there who somehow played worse than us on the sunday we played them.
personally from the games i have seen, our team is worse this year than last year as sadly amazing as that is.
by MountainManMike on Dec 14, 2009 1:46 AM CST up reply actions
He and the team deserved the boos at the end of the half
because of the poor, actually embarassingly bad clock management. This isnt a new problem its been an issue all season and ended up costing them the game in the end. When you’re on the opponents 48 yard line, with 50 seconds left and a kicker that can hit from 50-55 yards you have to do better then that. A FG there means Chris Chambers drop on the 2 yard line in the second half isnt so bad because we wouldve been kicking the game tying FG rather then losing another game.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
but all he's thinking about at that point in time
is crap I just threw an INT…and he hates to throw INTs
"Gonna gallop all over the Chiefs. Cleat prints on the chests. Mud in the face masks." - 2.7* *Yes I know it was changed to 2.9 but f*ck the statisticians.
by Kristospherein on Dec 13, 2009 5:59 PM CST up reply actions
Pioli and Haley have failed Matt...
…he needs more a lot help and a coach he can consult with thru out not a guy spread too thin.
Matt Cassel has a right to be frustrated
Matt Cassel has a right to be frustrated with booing fans, and here is why:
(1) Matt Cassel is constantly being pressured, bit, and sacked. The Bills sacked Cassel four times in the first half.
(2) If Matt Cassel can escape the pass rush, he then must throw the ball to one of the monkeys the Chiefs call a receiver. The Chief’s best receiver is a guy they claimed off waivers from the Chargers in mid season. Yeah, Chambers has been productive; but among this crowd, how could he not be?
(3) Even if Matt Cassel is escaping pressure and his receivers are catching the ball, he must also contend with the fact that the Chiefs are usually behind score wise. Sure, the defense played okay today. But lets not forget the fact that our defense usually gives up a lot of points in a game.
(4) Finally, Cassel must also contend with the “WTF” play of his fellow teammates, e.g., Wade letting a punt sail over his head.
matt cassell
I voted “no” and here are my reasons. He misses open receivers all the time. Last week he was Jamarcus Russell-esque in how badly off-target he was. For everyone who thinks he had a good game, the yards-per-completion was 5.2 yards! That is awful. Remember the year Steve Bono went to the Pro Bowl? He had a great completion percentage but was only ahead of Boomer Esiason for yards-per-completion. That was the year the Jets were 1-15 and Esiason was running for his life all season
ummmm
Last week he was 10/29 with what was statistically scored as 10 drops but was probably more like 12. Thats not missing open receivers. Not to mention its impossible to get into a rythym when your receivers are dropping everything.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Dec 13, 2009 6:05 PM CST up reply actions
Actually, basic math says that his yards-per-attempt was 5.2. His yards-per-completion was 8.6.
There’s a distinct difference – the stat given in a box score is usually yards-per-attempt.
I feel bad for him beeing boo'd. Goes with the territory really.
We are better than that but people will boo. In reality though he SHOULD have had considerably more passing yards than he has. And more points.
Those dropped passes are unforgiveable at some point. I mean the long one to Wade last week would have given him I believe around 70 passing yards right there (correct me if I’m wrong on that one) or pretty dam close to it anyway.
This week if Chambers catches the pass in front of the end zone we have a chance at 7 points and the win. Then we wouldn’t be so hard on Cassel.
He may not be stellar or a superstar but he doesn’t generally turn the ball over when it counts. We had that game. His receivers once again let him and the team down. They lost the game.
Cassel had his fair share of botches. He missed a couple of potential TD’s because of nothing more than bad aim. Or so it seems. After last week I wonder. Now that Chambers has admitted receivers are out of position for Cassel quite regularly. So now I don’t know how harshly to judge Cassel.
But booing our QB that soon on when he was trying does no good. It breaks morale and shows no support what so ever. I do feel that was a Raiders thing to do.
Sorry Cassel.
by krayfish on Dec 13, 2009 6:15 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Been there, done that.
Last year’s beatdown was demoralizing. This loss just proved a point: This team needs HELP.
"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"
-Marty Schottenheimer
by go_saleaumua on Dec 13, 2009 10:51 PM CST up reply actions
I've Been Wondering About Haley's Future Lately
I’ve been ON the Haley band-wagon all season. I’m trying to stay there, but knowing Marty, Cowher, and Shanahan are available makes me wonder if Haley wasn’t a one year experiment until the big boys were ready to re-enter the league.
If Haley turned the team around-great we’ll keep him and keep moving forward-but if the team faltered again and didn’t turn the corner we go out and get a big boy in the off-season.
by Ryan in Nixa on Dec 16, 2009 12:32 PM CST up reply actions
Booing is not good.
But it’s not likely to go way anytime soon or ever. But sometimes poor quarterbacks do.
At least he didn't pull a Mike Vick
And flip off the home crowd for booing
Predictions:
Kansas City will not win more than four games in 2009
Kansas City will have a new OC and DC in 2010
Kansas City will win at least seven games in 2010
by jmcgoblue on Dec 13, 2009 6:28 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I voted NO and let me tell you why...
1. The fans come to the game to pay money, and its GOOD money to see their favorite team play a football game. They have a right to do whatever they want in the stands in regards to cheering or booing whoever they want…correct so far?
2.
Out of all the people on the team, why would Matt Cassel want to tell the people that pay that good money to see them play to STFU when those people in the stands PAY HIS FKN salary?
He did not say that to ANYONE he said it under his breath to himself.
I want to know who highlighted Cassel face in the camera at taht point he is the one who should NOT of had the camera highlighting Cassels face wanting to catch something. It is a non issue did Cassel say anything against the fans booing during his press confrence NO he said the fans had the right to be booing so I YELL HE HAD THE RIGHT TO BE FLUSTRATED AND WHAT HE SAID TO HIMSELF IS NOT AN ISSUE!!!! It should be dropped and forgot about imediatly.
saying it to himself?
i may not be a doctor but ive watched them on tv a few times and think i can diagnose what the problem seems to be with cassel. Cassel has taken shot after shot because of a bad line and holding onto the ball too long. because of this, he is now hearing voices in his head from traumatic head injuries sustained over the season. he obviously was not saying stfu to fan but to the voices in his head. case solved…who’s next?
by MountainManMike on Dec 14, 2009 2:03 AM CST up reply actions
Didn't say it TO anyone, Coady. He was talking to himself.
I would/have said the same, in pressure situations. It’s just letting steam off.
"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"
-Marty Schottenheimer
by go_saleaumua on Dec 13, 2009 10:02 PM CST up reply actions
I agree
I mean it is not good taste to boo your own players but the fact of the matter is…Fans pay their salary. They are here, playing football and getting paid for it for entertainment. When you go to food establishment and the service is terrible, you complain right?
So there is really no diffference here, they paid hard earned money for tickets, merchandise, food, etc….only to watch this pathetic excuse for Professional football. Booing is pretty much the only way to vocally express their displeasure at the time.
Booing and cheering---
the two main forms of vocal expression at games. Surely Cassell didn’t expect cheering. Dead silence I guess.
I am not one to boo
But It is hard to blame people who pay $100 to go to the game. When a team is as lacking in talent as this one has been, it gets hard to keep up your fanhood.
4-19 at home since the beginning of ’07. This is historically bad.
Maybe Matt should realize that he is well paid to play well. He is paid to lead- and shows little interest (ala Elvis Grbac) to do so. He thinks of himself rather than the team (Which is why he took these more general boos personally.
Sometimes people boo because they are assholes.
Sometimes they boo because it hurts.
Is it safe?
Khazad--interesting take.
“He is paid to lead- and shows little interest (ala Elvis Grbac) to do so. He thinks of himself rather than the team (Which is why he took these more general boos personally.”
Care to expand on that? I haven’t seen a thing that tells me that—but I couldn’t afford season tickets this year, and don’t have DirecTV, so I don’t see all the games. Just wondering if you’d seen something I haven’t…
"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"
-Marty Schottenheimer
by go_saleaumua on Dec 13, 2009 10:05 PM CST up reply actions
Possible
He might have been telling the voice in his ear to STFU for calling the same play that didn’t work the last 14 times!
by Bra on Dec 13, 2009 6:43 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
lol that is another possibility.
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
by NJChieffan16 on Dec 13, 2009 7:53 PM CST up reply actions
Well
We indirectly pay these guys’ salaries. If your employees are incompetent, wouldn’t the boss let the employee know about it? It’s not like we have a stockholder meeting where the Chiefs listen to our grievances. Fans are limited in the ways in which we can tell our team that we are disappointed in them. If Cassel wants to hold a meeting where we can explain our rationale and true feelings, that would work great, and more civilized. In the meantime, the only way we have to communicate to our players is by shouting at a game (or, with less success, at my tv) I think Cassel is right-if you buy a ticket, you can voice your opinion. But is Cassel justified in being upset with the booing? Absolutely. He’s doing his best and it isn’t enough. He’s not out late partying before a big game. He’s not skipping practices. What employee wouldn’t get upset when his or her boss let them have it, but they were giving their all?
by 1kmilesfromkc on Dec 13, 2009 6:56 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
so the crowd is justified in booing because they are paying for the product, but cassel is allowed to be upset. it seems contradictory, but i believe both the crowd and matt are both justified.
however, if matt wants to shut up the crowd, why not be a leader and let the offense shut up the crowd? no matter how many dropped balls, somebody has to make something happen. sounds to me like it was more fan frustration by the mistakes. like haley’s said, this team isn’t good enough to make mistakes, that includes cassel. regardless of throws, he has to play mental-mistake free football for this crappy team to have a chance. he needs to kidnap his receivers and make them practice 2, 3 extra hours a day with him. throw after throw. make these guys catch the ball.
"We're not losers, we just can't win!"
by chief Stevie_k on Dec 13, 2009 7:07 PM CST up reply actions
NO
Cassel actually played better than he has been and you think Brodie will come in now. Not a chance. I have been one bashing Cassel pretty hard but he showed me the things I said he must do this week if he wanted me to quit talking smack so I am going to back him into next week and see what happens hopefully more improvment like what he did today. Looking off the D and making it obvious what mistakes are not his by his play.
We lost today because of WRs not an adequate RB to spell Charles, our O-Line and Run D That is the bottom line.
Me too KCCTD
I’ve been hard on Cassel too but, he really played pretty well today other than the HORRIBLE INT in the 3rd qtr. Which reminds me. Why do we suck so bad in the 3rd quarter? Not just this year. It was the same under Herm as well.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Dec 13, 2009 9:24 PM CST up reply actions
man if you were there
i spent that money. and what he said at the game he meant. after that at the press conference he was just saying what thier pr person told him to say… and worked him like a puppet
Or maybe...
Cassel actually meant it. I know I’ve said things in frustration that I’ve regretted later.
He’s human. Not like he got on the PA and said it to everyone. If he hadn’t had a camera on him, I doubt anyone would’ve known he ever said it. People vent sometimes. Big deal.
i dont know what the big deal is...
its not like he dissed kc bbq.
by MountainManMike on Dec 14, 2009 2:09 AM CST up reply actions
I would love that
if we can’t have a OC or QB coach.
Matt should step up and call the shots. WR's on me. Calling my play coach, Sorry
We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09. Almost there :)
And Succop will be the Key in two of them. Skins & Raiders! Pittsburgh Sweet!
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
by Steve_Chiefs on Dec 13, 2009 7:58 PM CST up reply actions
Matt
We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09. Almost there :)
And Succop will be the Key in two of them. Skins & Raiders! Pittsburgh Sweet!
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
by Steve_Chiefs on Dec 13, 2009 7:59 PM CST up reply actions
I Forgot to add
that Matt, to you personally you big fkn baby, any second string quarterback from any team in this league could come in to a game any given sunday and put up better than a 14 qb rating or whatever it is you managed to have, as well as average a better qb rating then you have had in the past two weeks. Hell, they can even overthrow, underthrow and forget to throw to wipe open receivers…we pay you 60 million dollars to take your ass out on that field as a STARTER, not one of those backups ok. In case you dont know what one of those is let me name you some names. Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Phillip Rivers, Tom Brady….ever heard of any of those. You match up to those “starters” about as well as white matches pink. Before you open your chops again and tell us fans to STFU, you might want to take Monday thru Saturday to learn the playbook, work with your recievers and make some progress towards being better than a college system QB ok.
wow
youre brutal, what horrible things did the chiefs do in their past lives to deserve fans like you? fans are supposed to support their team under all circumstances. Cassel has been under fire since he got here, unwaranted. He is sacked more than anyone, and has more passes dropped than anyone. How the heck is supposed to succeed? As for those “other” QB’s? yeah they all have tallented teams around them and always have, you dont know what youre talking about.
LJ is gone... Long live King Charles!!
by Vancouver Chiefs fan on Dec 13, 2009 7:42 PM CST up reply actions
you must be watching from the comfort of your living room and only see what TV wants you to see
by NFL season ticket holder on Dec 13, 2009 8:02 PM CST up reply actions
Riiiiiight
You know what else i see? STATS. And the stats say we have the worst WR’s and worst OL in the league. It does’t take a rocket scientist to see that Cassel isn’t the main reason we’re losing, and watching the game live has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with that.
LJ is gone... Long live King Charles!!
by Vancouver Chiefs fan on Dec 14, 2009 1:35 AM CST up reply actions
That Sucks
cause YOU know he does all that
We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09. Almost there :)
And Succop will be the Key in two of them. Skins & Raiders! Pittsburgh Sweet!
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
by Steve_Chiefs on Dec 13, 2009 8:00 PM CST up reply actions
i swear i'm a guy
but pink and white actually do match.
by 1kmilesfromkc on Dec 13, 2009 9:50 PM CST up reply actions
Ummm....
"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"
-Marty Schottenheimer
by go_saleaumua on Dec 13, 2009 10:07 PM CST up reply actions
i agree personally
he did bad today and really he’s shown me nothing that proves he deserves the money or the job
relax folks...
its just his new catch phrase…kinda like ocho cinco’s “child please!” u watch…its going to spread like wild fire and be a hit for weeks.
by MountainManMike on Dec 14, 2009 2:18 AM CST up reply actions
Dear Matt,
Take a lesson from Kansas City’s newest sport icons: Zack Greinke. He won the freaking CY Young with a horrible offense and defense.
great comparison
that was sarcasm
LJ is gone... Long live King Charles!!
by Vancouver Chiefs fan on Dec 13, 2009 7:43 PM CST up reply actions
Winning the CY Young is
EXTREMELY difficult when you have a shitty defense behind you. Thinnk about a shitty defense makes less plays which means more hits and runs given up by the pitcher. I actually think it’s a pretty good analogy.
BOO!!! BOOO!!!
I’ve watch NFL football for 48 years and the Chiefs all my life. That includes every Chiefs home games since 1974 and every QB from Len Dawson to Matt Cassel. If you put a 14 on Matt Cassel, he is carbon copy of Matt Blundin.
In 13 games, he has not shown me that he is a every day winning QB. Winning QBs make their teams better and can help hide your team’s weakness. Winning QBs know what to do in game situations that help your team. Matt Cassel has failed to deliver on any of those skills. You can blame the OL and the WRs but you are reading it 1st her that Cassel is bad experiement that will take the Chiefs 2 years to figure out. Matt Cassel deserves every BOO that is thrown toward him.
by NFL season ticket holder on Dec 13, 2009 7:58 PM CST reply actions
Blundin
Are you sure, that besides the QB pick that was blown in the greatest QB draft ever is the worst.
Are you sure?
We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09. Almost there :)
And Succop will be the Key in two of them. Skins & Raiders! Pittsburgh Sweet!
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
by Steve_Chiefs on Dec 13, 2009 8:05 PM CST up reply actions
Blackledge
was just on my TV, I boooooed him:)
We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09. Almost there :)
And Succop will be the Key in two of them. Skins & Raiders! Pittsburgh Sweet!
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
by Steve_Chiefs on Dec 13, 2009 8:26 PM CST up reply actions
Blundin Fail <Blackledge Fail
Blundin was an error. Blackledge was an epic mistake.
"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"
-Marty Schottenheimer
by go_saleaumua on Dec 13, 2009 10:12 PM CST up reply actions
I was born in 84 but have watched every game since I can remember.
I agree but am trying to keep faith because I know Cassel is going to be here atleast two more years.
Want to bring Grbac back?
Or do you know of a winning QB who could win behind this line? I don’t.
"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"
-Marty Schottenheimer
by go_saleaumua on Dec 13, 2009 10:11 PM CST up reply actions
The line didn't play that bad. That excuse is dead and can't be used anymore.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Dec 13, 2009 10:23 PM CST up reply actions
I think...
this team is frustrated to the hilt. The finger pointing and the blame game has begun. It’s not Cassel or the line, or the WRs. It’s the whole offense who are not working together and are frustrated beyond belief. The Chiefs offense seems to be on a crash course to self destruction.
This season can’t be over soon enough for me. These guys need some time off and an offseason with loads of new talent brought in. If they continue like this, it’s going to get real ugly by the end of the year.
On the bright side, Jamal Charles is going to be a full fledged superstar by this time next year. He is as good as any all purpose offensive player in the league.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Dec 13, 2009 10:32 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec/+1.
"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"
-Marty Schottenheimer
by go_saleaumua on Dec 13, 2009 11:01 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed. But more's still needed.
I expect it will come with time in ’09 (and more talent, next spring).
"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"
-Marty Schottenheimer
by go_saleaumua on Dec 13, 2009 11:00 PM CST up reply actions
All respect due, 1970...
“Didn’t play that bad” does not equal “good.” I will agree, and I am DELIGHTED, that we can hold and sustain a pocket, even briefly. We’ve come a long way since October.
That said, until I see sustained drives with consistent pocket protection & linemen firing, holding, and sustaining their blocks downfield in the running game, I’m not going to call the issue dead.
The problem is bigger than the O-line. But an above-average line keeps bad teams competitive—and we’re just now sniffing average.
"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"
-Marty Schottenheimer
by go_saleaumua on Dec 13, 2009 10:58 PM CST up reply actions
W/O a doubt, you are correct.
This line still needs a ton of help but, it is no longer the hindrance that it was several weeks ago. Cassel has had sufficient time to make plays and the run blocking is even improved by a large margin. (or it could just be that J Charles is a freak)
All I’m saying is that Cassel can no longer use the O-line as an excuse for his poor play because the improvement of the line has been far more visible than the improvement of the QB position. Also the improved run game should be helping MC out as well but, it hasn’t shown itself to be as tangible as it should be. Probably because we aren’t running the ball nearly enough.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Dec 13, 2009 11:54 PM CST up reply actions
and we arent running the ball very much
because we have no other viable RB besides Charles that can spell him
Positive...
He is no Len Dawson, Mike Livingston, Bill Kenney, nor a Steve DeBerg. He is not at the level of of these QBs of David Kreig, Warren Moon or Joe Montona, Steve Bono, nor even Elvis Grbac , Rich Gannon, and a Trent Green. If you don’t agree with him being a Matt Blundin maybe you can compare him to Todd Blackledge, Damon Huard, Todd Collins, Mike Elkins, Steve Fuller, or Tony Adams. Since Blundin sit behind Joe Montona— I view him as a Matt Blundin that was allowed to play 12 games just because you sign him to a $63 million contract.
by NFL season ticket holder on Dec 13, 2009 8:28 PM CST reply actions
It was after the 3rd down play, not after the 4th down ...
he made this comment after winging it out of bounds. It wasn’t the ideal play, but I thought he did it to stop the clock and avoid another loss (we were out of time outs). Who knows to whom his response was to, but the booing only showed that the fans did not understand what/why he was doing it (i.e., throwing it away); thus, I think the reaction was justified … I knew (sitting on my couch) this would be an issue thanks to TV cameras catching everything … you honestly think that NFL players haven’t said/done this before? Love how people attack the players via blogs based upon only what they see on TV.
Soooooo
Not only does he suck, but he is a punk ass bitch too?
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
He's a punk ass bitch
For responding to hecklers? Because that’s what you boo-birds are. Hecklers.
"The first step to penetration... must not be lateral"
-Confucius, in contrary to Glenn Dorsey lining up in the 2-tech
Chiefs fans, take it easy on Cassel. He’s putting with a lot of BS this season, especially with the dropped passes. He deserves better from Chiefs fans.
We are taking a lot of BS because of him too. He is paid a lot of money to perform and isn’t and that is the bottom line. The WRs are having tons of drops but that is no excuse for Matt to go and throw picks. Cassel is a backup QB and that is it and that is all.
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
I'm not 100% convinced either
I think this team is too bad on too many fronts to get a fair look at anyone.
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by Chris Thorman on Dec 13, 2009 9:16 PM CST up reply actions
I'm with you Chris.
"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"
-Marty Schottenheimer
by go_saleaumua on Dec 13, 2009 10:13 PM CST up reply actions
Shouldn't we at least be seeing signs that he can be successful?
Yes…I see the drop passes and I see poor blocking at times. I was the one saying if this guy just had some time to throw he will be ok. Now I’m seeing him with some time and he is missing throws and still taking sacks at times that he has time to get rid of the ball.
Please tell me what I can hang my hat on here to believe again other than to reference me to what he did last season with the Pats.
by vincent2668 on Dec 13, 2009 10:47 PM CST up reply actions
Bottom line for me...
Cassel put us in a position to win at the end and Chambers dropped it. Regardless of the rest of the game. We should have won. Period. This loss falls squarely on the shoulders of Chris Chambers. And this is coming from me and I have been VERY vocal about Cassel and his poor play.
Todays loss was NOT his fault. I thought overall Cassel played a decent game.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Dec 13, 2009 9:30 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Cassel is obviously saying STFU to Haley...
…who was talking to him through the mic.
I agree Nick!
We’re all guessing here, but I bet Haley was doling out some QB coaching through the helmet and Cassel was expressing his appreciation for the words of wisdom.
I think its kind of funny...
I dont think its okay to boo, but I dont think they were booing Cassel, they were booing the Chiefs, I think he took it a little to personal.
You really should get professional help. Your obsession with ND football is not healthy. ---Dr. lookingdeadred
I don't have to stop and look at the QB rating before I Boo
Fans want to see there QB make big plays at critical times and lead the team to TDs and wins. I don’t give a crap what his QB rating is. If he is fruturated with the fans, then good…he knows how the fans feel about watching the team.
Just one more game
Of boos Matt. Then the fans will cheer you for overthrowing wide open receivers. For the record, I still have faith in Matt. We might get Suh afterall.
by raiderhater77 on Dec 13, 2009 10:45 PM CST via mobile reply actions
GARBAGE
He is garbage, thats all I can say, I didn’t like him in New England and I haven’t liked him here since he’s been here. Brody Croyle gives us a better oppurtunity to win than Cassel and thats not much. The only reason he was good in New England is because he was a product of the system. He will never be a good QB here in KC, even if we end up with the best O-line in football Cassel will still be garbage. He wastes too much time in the pocket, he over throws receivers, he can’t hit his receivers in stride….He’s jut not good, he’s nothing more than a high school QB on an NFL team…..bench him!!! At least bench him the rest of the season and bring in a QB who can actually play in the offseason
Every quarterback in the NFL plays in a system. Every single one.
Some ‘systems’ just happen to have players in them that actually know what they’re doing, and are placed in a system that maximizes their talents. Cassel is perfectly capable of hitting receivers in the hands, especially in the intermediate ranges of the field – too bad his receivers can’t separate from defensive backs (or catch) to get open and his offensive line can’t block long enough for his receivers to get into the 15-30 yard range consistently.
Fans scared
Look..I truely don’t know if the guy will be any good or not for years to come. But, I think there are a lot of people here that don’t want to think that Cassell may not be the QB of the future. I think that reason is because if in fact he is not the QB of the future then we are screwed for the next several years. If Cassell needs all the pieces around him that he had in NE to be successful we are screwed anyway. Because there are so many pieces missing to get to that level that it will not be fixed in one or even 2 offseasons.
Why would we be screwed for several years?
His contract (contrary to what most people think) isn’t that big. It’s around the average for a starting QB. the full 63 million isn’t guaranteed. Only about 30 of it is. The Chiefs are so far under the cap that we could cut him, eat the contract and draft a first round QB without flinching.
Everyone stop. Take a deep breath. Count backwards from 10.
Ok. Now remember that the back up QB is ALWAYS the most popular guy in town when a team is this bad. Matt will bounce back. He had one of the best TD to INT ratios for the first several weeks of the season. Chill out people.
by Red N Gold Beast on Dec 15, 2009 1:13 PM CST up reply actions
Cassel has no oline, no OC, no QB coach. no GM, no defense, no receivers, and no head coach. Why boo him ?
The line has been playing better, the GM has brought in a bunch of new players, and the defense gave them 3 turnovers and a chance to win late. As far as the OC, QB coach and receivers go, I agree with you there.
If someone asks you if you want extra mayonnaise you have to say yes, cus that's part of it.
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The line play was much worse early in the year and he was putting up better number then
So, now that he has a had better line play and a running game; why has his play been worse? Receivers where dropping ball early in the year.
The ONLY excuse I can come up with is that he got so beat up early in the year, he is gun shy now? If this guy does have the tools, I hope un repairable damage wasn’t done to this guy by getting killed in the pocket the first 8 games of the year. That is what happened to David Carr
by vincent2668 on Dec 14, 2009 12:31 AM CST up reply actions
Today was the day I finally realized that Cassel is incapable of hitting receivers in stride on the long bomb.
Drops are one thing, but over and over and over and OVER again. God damn! :(
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all smart ass comments aside...
personally, i completely disagree with booing him. i feel like its only ok to boo someone on the team u cheer for if they r not giving 100% but even though i dont feel cassel has the talent to be a good qb in the nfl, i certainly dont think he is half-assing it out there. i do think he gives 100% and shouldnt be booed…sadly even people who try their hardest can fail miserably.
by MountainManMike on Dec 14, 2009 2:33 AM CST reply actions
Tell that to
every ranking person in the military! Are we supposed to cheer him when he sucks? No! So if we can’t cheer and we can’t boo when he sucks, what are we supposed to do? Stay silent? Come on guys, this is sports! I’ll be honest, I’ve NEVER booed the Chiefs, and I had season tickets for the 10 years that I lived there. However, I now live out west. If I’d been at the game last weekend. I don’t know if I could have controlled my frustration- I may have booed. Now, if Cassel doesn’t have the talent, he could quit and give back the money, but that isn’t going to happen! If he wants to take on the responsibility and the paycheck that comes with being the franchise QB, we expect results. The season is almost over, and we haven’t seen ANY improvement over the course of this season. If he’s trying his hardest and is still failing this miserably, it’s time to admit that Cassel should sit for a while.
I think his frustration is absolutely justified
For anyone on this board, or any fan in the stands, who thinks for a second that he Cassel isn’t putting in 100%effort amidst the chaos that is this Chiefs team, you’re delusional.
Where were the boos when MFers were droppin balls? He overthrew a couple of passes.. big fucking deal. But Bobby Wade’s lousy effort in getting one hand on a VERY catchable ball goes un-booed? Delusion. Everywhere.
Where were the boos when Cassel was landing on his ass every other dropback in previous games? Aint NO ONE on this team progressing, but he’s the one gets booed. It’s really just dumb and classless to be honest.
I know this team sucks. You booers know this team sucks. Everyone in the NFL knows this team sucks. But no, you’ve got to put your worthless stamp on it by booing. You add absolutely no value, other than the insanity of paying money to see a losing team in December. You want to voice your displeasure? Stop paying money to see a shitty team. The front office WILL get the message.
They don’t need you chiming in.
"The first step to penetration... must not be lateral"
-Confucius, in contrary to Glenn Dorsey lining up in the 2-tech
by ArrowSpread on Dec 15, 2009 10:52 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
+1
Awesome post.
Everyone stop. Take a deep breath. Count backwards from 10.
Ok. Now remember that the back up QB is ALWAYS the most popular guy in town when a team is this bad. Matt will bounce back. He had one of the best TD to INT ratios for the first several weeks of the season. Chill out people.
by Red N Gold Beast on Dec 15, 2009 1:18 PM CST up reply actions
Don't know if I could boo while sitting there,
but I can tell you I was yelling at my television set. If the people booing were like me, it was the sack that did it. Most of the sacks he takes now are his fault. The OL has really stepped up and given him great protection the past several games. The guy holds it an holds it, not sure what to do. I wasn’t booing, but I was yelling “throw the f’ing balll away!”. That’s not rocket science and is becoming more and more frustrating.
I also totally agree, stop buying tickets and the team will get the message that the fans just aren’t going to put up with this nonsense. If they want sellouts, they need to upgrade the product. Fans don’t “owe” anything to the team. It’s vice versa.
Personally, I could care less.
So what if he said it? Even though I don’t agree with the fans booing the team, they have the right to do so. It’s not like it’s not warranted. The fans are frustrated. The players are frustrated. Fans will boo and players will say “STFU”.
And for what it’s worth, he didn’t look to be directing his frustration towards anyone in particular (he wasn’t yelling at anyone). It looked like he was saying it to himself. I probably would have said the same thing. All the crap that was being said about him in the weeks prior to this game were probably getting to him.
He’s under a lot of stress. The fans are being too hard on him, IMO. The WHOLE team is so bad right now that when our QB makes questionable decisions, it becomes all too easy to project the team’s ineptitude on the face of the offense, the QB. Cassel has his problems, but in no way is it all his fault. We need to back off guys. Give the guy a chance. It’s not his fault that KC traded for him, gave him a bunch of cash, stuck him behind this OL, and gave him these WRs to throw to. I get the sense that he wants to be here and wants to be part of this rebuild, but if we’re not careful, we’re going to break this guy. Let’s not do that.
Everyone stop. Take a deep breath. Count backwards from 10.
Ok. Now remember that the back up QB is ALWAYS the most popular guy in town when a team is this bad. Matt will bounce back. He had one of the best TD to INT ratios for the first several weeks of the season. Chill out people.
by Red N Gold Beast on Dec 15, 2009 1:08 PM CST reply actions
Cassel will be a success if....
He can persevere through the adversity. What do you really expect, it takes basically max protection to keep him upright and then we have limited receivers open with the most drops. The way he played in the first quarter in a half should tell people he can be the guy. New Coach, new system (installed 1 week before the season, no OC, no QB coach, a new head coach that has been very green to say the least, virtually no running game in the first half of the season and finally a revolving door of players. Did I mention the defense that is 31 in the league again this year!
It is true that because he handles the ball the most, he will take the brunt of the punishment. Here is the bottomline: Add talent and watch Cassel grow!
*I for one can wait to watch all of these naysayers eat crow on this one! Pioli got it right!
by casselreadychiefs on Dec 15, 2009 2:30 PM CST reply actions
How do we know the "STFU" was directed at the fans?
Maybe it was directed at a defender talking smack?
If everyone worked as hard as me, I would be out of a job.
-Steve Nash
Here's your options as I see them.
1. You can “boo” your players hoping that will inspire them. That’s never worked in the history of the NFL, but there’s a first time for everything.
2. You can “boo” the team hoping that the ownership will change something. They did last year, and aren’t likely to change unless they think that the combination of Pioli/Haley/Cassel won’t work out long term. You’re still rebuilding.
3. You can cheer them anyway, because they’re your team and they’re doing their best. Maybe just maybe they’ll get fired up for the hometown crowd.
You know a couple years ago the Giants won on the road, but couldn’t at home from lack of fan support. Their home games were a harsher environment than their away games. Pretty messed up.
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