Chiefs Struggle Against the Bills; Lose 16-10
by Chris Thorman on Dec 13, 2009 3:06 PM CST
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PrintThis loss really hurts. Maybe it's because the Chiefs had a chance, deep in Buffalo territory, at the end of the game to win it.
But no.
Cassel's pass was tipped and picked off by the Bills with 2:13 left in the game. Chris Chambers had dropped a big pass near the goal line on the previous play.
Dropped passes. Sound familiar?
The Chiefs even got the ball back but a deep Hail Mary pass with no time left was caught by Buffalo.
Here are some notes on the game. Tweet your questions to Joel at @ArrowheadPride.
We need to keep our chins up for one more week in order to sell out the Browns game and preserve the NFL's longest sell out streak for another year.
The Good
- The Chiefs defense came up big with twelve minutes left in the game. They shut down the Bills after Buffalo took over with great field position. Rian Lindell missed a 51-yard kick.
- RB Jamaal Charles nearly does it all. After a tipped pass resulted in a Buffalo INT, Charles chased down the Bills linebacker and nearly stripped the ball back.
- LB Tamba Hali applied pressure all day on QB Ryan Fitzpatrick. Hali had one sack, his 7.5 of the year.
- On 3rd and 16, with 7 minutes left, Cassel hit Wade for a 22-yard first down. It was the offensive play of the game. Leonard Pope's 16-yard catch and run on 3rd and 8 was also big.
- TE Leonard Pope had a huge game - 4 catches for 45 yards - with a couple of big catches near the end of the game.
The Bad
- A Rudy Niswanger holding penalty in the fourth quarter negated a big pass play by Cassel to Chambers.
- WR Chris Chambers was called for holding on that huge Jamaal Charles run late in the fourth quarter. This was a killer penalty.
- DT Glenn Dorsey left the game before the half with a knee injury. He did not return.
- WR Mark Bradley signaling first down when he was ten yards short.
- The Chiefs had five penalties in this game, some coming at very critical junctures.
The Ugly
- The Chiefs forced three turnovers and scored zero points off of them.
- WR Chris Chambers dropped a huge pass near the goal line with under three minutes left. Another drop.
- Cassel was 26/43 for 224 yards and four INTs. He had 145 yards passing the first half. His QB rating was 35.4.
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My grade - F
Just terrible
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by craig in calgary on Dec 13, 2009 3:07 PM CST reply actions
Whatever
This is football, not fantasy football.
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by craig in calgary on Dec 13, 2009 3:09 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Awful all around.
Chiefs have 99 Problems and Cassel is ONLY one.
Epic and ultimate Fail.
Offense gets whatever can go below F-
D gets B
JC gets A because hes JC
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
D get a B????
200 Yards on the ground. Still an F!
by casselreadychiefs on Dec 13, 2009 4:03 PM CST up reply actions
I say limit DBowe's play
He’s not playing for anything but a chance to get hurt. He’s been outta football for 4 weeks and is probably not in the best shape of his life…..fragile bones and muscles get hurt…i say play the benchies to see who we keep and judge progress
We will once again be amongst the NFL's elite!!!
by KrazyKreamChief on Dec 13, 2009 3:09 PM CST reply actions
Watch the insults
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by Chris Thorman on Dec 13, 2009 3:27 PM CST up reply actions
At least he attacked the comment and not the individual.
But yeah, not very tactful.
Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.
i don't know the writer or i would have gone after his mom!! lol
how about this the idea of not having our best players on the field at all times ie bowe and dj… are not going to produce any POSITive results for my fave team!
by kcstevesportsfan on Dec 13, 2009 7:56 PM CST up reply actions
Sucks...I gotta get out of here...
I would not be a good representative of Arrowhead Pride today…
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We have the longest sell out streak?
hm, didn’t know that.
Probably time to end that streak. What message do these guys get sent when we keep selling out the stadium for this crap?
Scott Mitchell did put up good yardage, as like usual, it was all his receivers fault
Ralph Wiggum would be a better GM than Dayton Moore
good thing Kennesaw Mountain Goodell doesn't care about fake sellouts
Ralph Wiggum would be a better GM than Dayton Moore
Overall F
Charles and Hali both looked good but neither was enough to raise the team effort to a D
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The Brandons did well also.
INT and a strip and fumble recovery along with several passes defended is nothing to sneeze at.
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I thought we had a shot
Buffalo doesn’t have a QB.
Chiefs have 99 Problems and Cassel is ONLY one.
as long as the other team has a RB
We will lose.
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
by NJChieffan16 on Dec 13, 2009 3:11 PM CST up reply actions
Thanks
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by Chris Thorman on Dec 13, 2009 3:11 PM CST up reply actions
3 turnovers and no points!
That’s killer!!!! :(
Cassel makes one good play..
then turns around and makes two bad plays….he has got to get better..point blank
Well we beat the Stealers
and they did too…………maybe I need to start wearing a grocery bag on my head.
well...
sounds like I’ll be able to upgrade my seats at the Browns game, you know, since no one will FREAKING SHOW UP!!!!!!
I think this is the first game all season
where the Defense actually played respectably. Not particularly good (still gave up lots of yardage), but respectable.
Chiefs have 99 Problems and Cassel is ONLY one.
Cassel F-
Sure Chambers dropped that pass, who cares.
He missed a wide open Bradley 3 times
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by craig in calgary on Dec 13, 2009 3:12 PM CST reply actions
C
Chiefs have 99 Problems and Cassel is ONLY one.
C?!?!?!? Based on what exactly?
Whatver.
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by craig in calgary on Dec 13, 2009 3:14 PM CST up reply actions
Well, it could have been as bad as last week!
:) Literally just trying to stay positive. He made a few good throws, but his receiver did let him down when it mattered the most.
Chiefs have 99 Problems and Cassel is ONLY one.
That was one drop.
It would’t have mattered if he makes throws earlier in the game.
This gams should have been a Chiefs blowout
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by craig in calgary on Dec 13, 2009 3:16 PM CST up reply actions
What the hell happened to the defense?
Seems like teams can run anytime they want and all day long. I’m not saying the defense was good at some point. But, I don’t remember getting blown up in the running game like we have the last 3 or 4 weeks?
I will say this
Tamba Hali looks like a damn good OLB. Who knew the position change was going to work this well for him.
Charles is a man-child. If he spends the off-season carrying around 45lbs. plates to strengthen his grip on the ball, he’ll be hell on wheels next year. Fumbles kill but the guy can flat out play.
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We need everything
including a couple coaches………
I contend that this team's biggest weakness is the coaching
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You'd think they'd be looking more to execute than be clever or cute.
I see more cute than just solid execution.
Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.
Desperation
They’re looking for any stroke of luck to give them confidence when they should be taking baby steps.
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bad play calling mostly like that 4th and goal
where they faked the inside run and cassel got sacked we should have run the damn balll in !
It's quite possible
I’m starting to lean that way.
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pioli will draft one late I bet. but Cassel will be the opening day starter, barring some career-ending injury or something.
Chiefs have 99 Problems and Cassel is ONLY one.
If Pioli brought in a guy that he has worked with and knows better than any rookie QB
and thought he could lead the team? Do you believe that he could evaluate the talent of a young QB in the draft?
This is a thought that scares me.
"You play to win the game." Herm Edwards
Really why bother sticking around if all you guys do is bash the team? If you that sick of it be gone really… All the problems are far from problems caused by Pioli now can I question taking Cassel sure… But how about all the drops? Lack of consistent protection, defense has been spotty coaching all got together late
And if you cant handle people bitching about the team during a poor season
you can go somewhere else as well. Drops, poor takling, poor coaching, poor ints, are all a product of either bad talent, bad coaching, or bad players around the QB. All of those things point to the GM.
I’ve been the biggest Cassel supporter there is. But, I’m finding it hard to do any longer. Yes there are drops…but there are also a lot of missed passes and flat out bone headed decisions he is making in the pocket.
the GM also came in late
he didn’t get a full offseason to evaluate current players, college players or FA’s. and by the time he got here most decent FA’s were already signed. they made changes and brought in players throughout the season, gotta give em credit for that. plus, i’m not really sure what people were expecting this year, with all the shake-ups, we were bad last year and we’re bad this year; it should have been expected. see what he does next year then bitch.
by E.C. on Dec 13, 2009 3:29 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't think they were in good position to attract the top FAs, either, all else being equal.
The good players already on-board were interested in jumping ship. No question, Pioli will have to make some hits in the draft and show something on the field with them, before many FAs will be interested or see any possibility of putting them over the top.
Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.
by hmills110 on Dec 13, 2009 3:38 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
The point is...
Pioli did bring in Cassel and determined that he was going to be the franchise QB. Many people have determined that even with tools around him, he is not going to be the QB to lead this team to a superbowl.
If those people are correct, that falls on Pioli.
mostly i've heard that he's good with players around him
and he showed it last year. plus the dude took a shot on a QB, it happens, it doesn’t always work out, at least he knew him up close which usually isn’t the case, so i have to think that he knows more about him than most, including us.
Aside from RB, we need a full offensive change. The defense gave us a chance to win and we blew it.
Joe
Raiders Suck!!!
If I had 3 wishes right now
They would be world peace, an end to disease, and a chance to punch Chris Chambers right in the nutsack.
by Soria's Unibrow on Dec 13, 2009 3:14 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I'm kinda glad that happened, in a way, because he doesn't show great technique for a veteran.
He’s pretty consistent if he’s open and the ball’s in his breadbasket. But you see he’s more of a basket catcher than a snatch the ball out of the air at its highest/earliest point receiver. This narrows the effective window.
A good route runner, he DOES create separation better than ’most anyone else on the roster, but… Worth keeping? Yes. Worth paying #1 or #2 money to? Very questionable. Offer him the #3 or #4 money he actually rates, and then maybe he walks or sticks with a poor attitude, because he did and can make some big plays.
Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.
This narrows the effective window.
And the completion percentage. I can see Haley and Chambers lockin’ horns down the road, and I’m not sure the best outcome will result.
Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.
Cassel had 143 yards rushing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DO WE WIN?
Hell no
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
rofl I mean CHARLES
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
by NJChieffan16 on Dec 13, 2009 3:14 PM CST up reply actions
enter gatsby with a zinger here...
He’s on a roll today
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Cassell had 143 yards rushing?
Oh, you mean JC…………………..scared me for a minute.
Grade: D-
Below average to bad.
We had LOTS of quality missed opportunities that we couldn’t capitalize on
1. 4th and 1: negative boot leg
2. Missed deep pass to Bradley in the endzone
3. 2nd missed deep pass to Bradley in the endzone
4. Cassel sack that took us out of FG range in the 3rd quarter I believe
5. Chambers dropped pass
I don't want no Yo-Yos
by CaptainPoopDeck on Dec 13, 2009 3:14 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
What about 3 TOs, especially in the endzone once.
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
by NJChieffan16 on Dec 13, 2009 3:15 PM CST up reply actions
30.32 QB rating over the last 2 games
Just terrible play from the QB. All home games as well. Oh well…..At least he had a completion % better than 33% this week.
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
That's retarted
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"Let me think...Lets not run Jamaal Charles more often....THATS IT...(jumps)"
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by NJChieffan16 on Dec 13, 2009 3:17 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, I just belched too
and a chunk came up with it
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That was the best play call EVAR!!!
"You play to win the game." Herm Edwards
All Croyle had to do was sidestep and it's an easy completion.
That’s simple 1-on-1 stuff with the defender off his feet and the QB with lots of space around him, otherwise. Long as we’re reamin’ Cassel, that was something pretty basic that anybody with an ounce of street ball in him executes much better than that.
Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.
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Whether the defense looked bad in the stats...
they gave the offense multiple chances to win that game…..
Haley
Is not helping this team. Just helps shoot them self in the foot.
by cwebb44 on Dec 13, 2009 3:17 PM CST via mobile reply actions
This. +1111111
Chiefs have 99 Problems and Cassel is ONLY one.
His game management is so terrible
amazingly terrible
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I didn't see anything wrong with the coaching today.
Execution was the problem, not the gameplan
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by craig in calgary on Dec 13, 2009 3:18 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
OMG the play calling was bad
Oh Oh Oh…. How’bout we go for it?!
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What are you talking about?
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by craig in calgary on Dec 13, 2009 3:20 PM CST up reply actions
are you serious, Craig?
It’s gotten to the point where I’m screaming for some conservative play calling because we go for everything when we clear do not have a team that can execute.
I can't believe you made me say it. I think I need to take a shower now.
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I thought I read somewhere last week where someone posted
that the Chiefs lead the league in 4th down conversions. That’s insane!
can anyone confirm this?
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lol
and that horrible 4th and goal bootleg omfg! i was there everyone knew he should have ran the fucking ball
Should of kicked
The field goal from the one or at least run it up the gut and stick them on the 1 or 2 yard line. Then at the end if we would of kicked it we had a shot to at least tie the game. In a game where it’s this close you take any points you can get.
by cwebb44 on Dec 13, 2009 3:22 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Should've.
Take the points. And when it’s 1st and goal from inside the 5, go with your bigs and send a FB on ahead, either with or without the ball.
Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.
nothing says game-ending glory
like the zombie-esque coach swearing up a storm after the last play
Ralph Wiggum would be a better GM than Dayton Moore
I was right there with him
I wanted a flag too after Cottam got knocked down.
First you have to build a reputation, before you start getting those calls.
Hate to say it, but ties go to the successful.
Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.
Can we wish for Cassel to
Call some jerk a bad word and talk about Haley’s golf game so he can be cut?
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
Your 3-13 prediction looks more and more realistic
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
by NJChieffan16 on Dec 13, 2009 3:19 PM CST up reply actions
Chiefs players are our players, for better or worse
Thats a rather harsh thing for someone who I’m sure wishes we’d win as much as the rest of us would like.
Chiefs have 99 Problems and Cassel is ONLY one.
by jk86 on Dec 13, 2009 3:19 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Your kidding right???
As much as you have talked about players you didnt like…..I like Cassel, just would like him better in a different uniform.
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Dec 13, 2009 3:32 PM CST up reply actions
We should have ran the ball early
At the worst, the clock would continue to run. Instead we passed ALL THE TIME in the first few series.
Chiefs have 99 Problems and Cassel is ONLY one.
I've been backing Cassel this whole year but that was garbage
these last 2 games have been AWFUL QB play AWFUL.
Would ya like a free NANAA!
by Jazzy Megalodon on Dec 13, 2009 3:19 PM CST reply actions
He also tried to get the ball back, but the refs took it.
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
by NJChieffan16 on Dec 13, 2009 3:20 PM CST up reply actions
Neither can Cassel
so if you say that, you have to inform people that even if Cassel was Brees/Manning combined he couldn’t do it on HIS own.
Chiefs have 99 Problems and Cassel is ONLY one.
NFL QB's are supposed to be the top in the world
the guy is getting paid 63 million dollars to throw the ball. You would think he would be good enough to hit an open receiver down the field at least 1/3 chances. Stop defending the guy. He stinks just as much as most of the other players we have. Problem is, he is the one with the ball in his hands every offensive play and the one who gets paid to make good decisions.
With that trick shoulder of his, he oughtn't be throwing it much or at all, unless he's a southpaw.
Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.
don't tell bones that
we don’t want anyone mentioning how much better charles is than 2.7
Make sure you give The Hoff some love:
Here's to you Steve Hoffman
big big loss!!!
This had draft implications. We’ll be glad we didn’t win, in April!
Speakin of that...anyone notice the refs cheated us all game
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
Yeah, it was pretty shameless.
Chiefs have 99 Problems and Cassel is ONLY one.
I not one to think the refs cheat....but its getting a little sad.
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
by NJChieffan16 on Dec 13, 2009 3:22 PM CST up reply actions
That Chambers drop sucked the air out.
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
by NJChieffan16 on Dec 13, 2009 3:22 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
so did that tipped interception
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The thing about Cassel's ints
is that most of them were tipped, can we really blame all of that on him?
I blame Chambers at the moment.
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
by NJChieffan16 on Dec 13, 2009 3:24 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah....
Since he threw 4 picks. Don’t know how you and others can trot out and defend Cassel week after week.
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Dec 13, 2009 3:25 PM CST up reply actions
Because they were tipped?
and our receivers cant catch?
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
by NJChieffan16 on Dec 13, 2009 3:26 PM CST up reply actions
I'm afraid that's pretty much the case.
The Chiefs need to patch the O-Line (maybe not as many big moves necessary as some think), land a solid NT, and spend the rest of their coin on perimeter players on O and D. I think the lack of real competition in training camp gave them a false read on the talent they had, and a key to developing unknown players is matching them up with good players on the opposite side of the ball.
Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.
Some day you will realize
That is all excuses and maybe you will realize that Cassel sucks. That isn’t a defense of the recievers because they havent played lights out but they didn’t screw this game, Cassel did. A wasted Charles performance, just like last week’s wasted Hali performance.
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Dec 13, 2009 3:29 PM CST up reply actions
tell that to Chris Chambers
just sayin
The only measure of true success in the NFL is the Vince Lombardi trophy. Anything less is a rationalization.
Pretty much his fault on the tips
Who threw the ball in a position to be tipped? Santa Claus?
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Dec 13, 2009 3:30 PM CST up reply actions
Listen man...all this blame you put on Cassel...If Chambers caught that ball, would you still be raggin him?
We was driving…
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
by NJChieffan16 on Dec 13, 2009 3:33 PM CST up reply actions
Investment
What do the Chiefs have invested in Chambers—nothing. In Cassell—boo coo bucks. Yet Chambers has done good right off————-Cassell has done very little.
ummm yeah
He throws them in positions to be tipped. Like last week when he hit a guy in the helmet that really wasnt doing anything to try to tip the ball.
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Dec 13, 2009 3:25 PM CST up reply actions
My AP is broken
acting like Matt Cassel and screwing up
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
Senior NCAA QB list
Todd Reesing, KU (go to Canada, Todd, it’s the only way you can stop the Big 8 QB jinx)
Levi Brown, Troy
Tyler Sheehan, Bowling Green
Max Hall, BYU
Thaddeus Lewis, Duke (has to be tough to make it through life with the name Thaddeus)
Tim Hiller, Western Michigan
those are the Seniors with more yards per game than Colt McCoy
Freddie Barnes (Bowling Green) has 11.5 receptions per game, which is kind of crazy
Ralph Wiggum would be a better GM than Dayton Moore
when this is the best effort you can cough up
against one of the truly terrible teams in the NFL, AT HOME, you deserve to lose.
What’s become obvious is that there probably won’t be anyone on the Chiefs today who will be playing when the team gets to competent.
The only measure of true success in the NFL is the Vince Lombardi trophy. Anything less is a rationalization.
FU*K
im hate this every week we lose we have not won in a long time i miss the winning days im not happy with a 3 game winning season we get no love from no body we have player that show up when they want like Corey Mays where the hell have he been we have 3 solid player Jammal Charles he makes all the plays on O get this guy some help then we have Brandon Flowers he might as well change in to a WR seem like he catch better then are WR and my fav Mr.Hali i mean this is a guy alot of you people thought was not gone be able to get the job done he is a monster but he can’t do it all on D he plays his heart out you seen last week game 3sacks 2force fumbles if i had a game like that i a want to win….I know yall will have alot to say but o well im upset
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Man these are who I feel for.
Jamaal Charles, Tamba Hali, Chris Chambers(yea I said it), Matt Cassel(imagine a rec corps that can catch)
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
by NJChieffan16 on Dec 13, 2009 3:27 PM CST up reply actions
yea you are write about Matt but he also make some dumb plays like i said last week he trying to hard to make plays thats same as Charles that the reason he fumbles he try in make plays cuz the next man won’t
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by Da Chiefs Guy on Dec 13, 2009 3:29 PM CST up reply actions
Oh and I forgot the Brandons.
They do their job. True that Flowers might as well be a WR.
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
by NJChieffan16 on Dec 13, 2009 3:30 PM CST up reply actions
my mock Drafy
A brand new team
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Well, we have an outside linebacker and a running back.
2 down 51 to go.
Charles isn't durable enough
he’s going to have a lot of trouble staying in the league
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not durable enough?
he played this game w’ a dislocated shoulder! I think Kolby Smith is the onew’ durability issues
dude, his arm is going to completely fall off
you can only go to the well so many times.
He’s just not big enough to handle the pounding
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Yeah he needs to bulk up like Chris Johnson, the best back in the NFL
That will take him a long time! Sixteen whole ounces! I hope he can do it.
Drew Brees is too small to make it in this league. Maurice Jones-Drew is too small to make it in this league. Steve Smith is too small to make it in this league.
Or if baseball is your thing: Pedro Martinez is too small to start. Tim Lincecum is too small to start.
by Soria's Unibrow on Dec 13, 2009 3:35 PM CST up reply actions
neither Drew, nor Maurice, nor Smith
has the injury history of Mr. Charles. If you’ve got a trick shoulder, its not going away.
Dude plays tough, no two ways about it, but there’s a reason he fumbles and a reason why he gets hurt. He plays too tough for his body
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Too bad they will trade them after the season
I am sure Bowe is gone too. They have to remove anything brought in by Carl P
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Dec 13, 2009 3:27 PM CST up reply actions
They better not get rid of Bowe.
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
by NJChieffan16 on Dec 13, 2009 3:27 PM CST up reply actions
Bowe has the best hands on the team thats a – for him to go
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by Da Chiefs Guy on Dec 13, 2009 3:30 PM CST up reply actions
Nothing wrong with his fundamentals catching the ball. But yes,
a team that needs a monster with the ball after the catch, and can afford an occasional drop.
Oh, never mind. Bowe could be a very solid part of a very good team, but I’m not sure he’s going to be worth the money he gets, considering the lack of a dominant player on the other side.
Chiefs could get it done with quick, pesky receivers who caught everything in reach, as a complement to Bowe. Might be surprised at how good Bradley, Wade and Long start looking in that regard, with just a little bit better offensive line.
They moved the ball very well, at times, against this Buffalo squad. I think the loss is heartbreaking to others (moreso than to me, surprisingly), because they looked close to turning the corner.
Most of this game, I didn’t see Cassel as the limiting factor. That was a pretty weak pass on the run, though, when his feet bought him an opportunity to reverse field and complete a pass over the top to a receiver (I think it was Charles, although the broadcaster called someone else’s number) who had a clear step on his guy. And great WRs make that pass look better than it was, able to come back as well or better than the DB and contest for the floater at its highest point.
Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.
well 2 LB Vrable
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by Da Chiefs Guy on Dec 13, 2009 3:29 PM CST up reply actions
anyone wanna take bets on how fast the Chiefs announce the hiring of an OC
after the final game of the season?
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DC would be nice too
as well as hiring of new scouts
The only measure of true success in the NFL is the Vince Lombardi trophy. Anything less is a rationalization.
well, they're on the clock
they better produce something a damn sight better than last year’s draft
The only measure of true success in the NFL is the Vince Lombardi trophy. Anything less is a rationalization.
well, we drafted Jackson and Magee
and there’s still a need (actually 2) at D-end. Someone competent for once might be nice
The only measure of true success in the NFL is the Vince Lombardi trophy. Anything less is a rationalization.
funny
the great Jim Kerney don’t know if i spelled that rite said the same thing he was the SS for the superbowl winning team of the chiefs he was my Sub at school like last week
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by Da Chiefs Guy on Dec 13, 2009 3:34 PM CST up reply actions
we need a DC more then OC
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by Da Chiefs Guy on Dec 13, 2009 3:32 PM CST up reply actions
I call it a tie
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I say we put the pressure short-term on the talent acquisition crew.
It’s so easy to misjudge the playcaller, when the execution is at such a low level. Near-term, I’d be giving my position coaches a VERY hard look. T-Jax looks like a real beast, but he’s running himself out of position too often – nothing anybody’s doing to stop him, just his own eyes and eagerness leading him astray.
Hard to judge at this point, though. It’s a bit disingenuous to bemoan the across-the-board lack of talent and then castigate the coordinators.
Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.
6 months
then the OC is fired in August for not gelling with Haley
Ralph Wiggum would be a better GM than Dayton Moore
When a QB puts up nearly Russel numbers, you know you suck
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
oh and forgot to add "and wins" in there...
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
by NJChieffan16 on Dec 13, 2009 3:29 PM CST up reply actions
that's twice in the same season
your team has to be in a BIG world of suck for that to happen
The only measure of true success in the NFL is the Vince Lombardi trophy. Anything less is a rationalization.
cassel seems to be a mix of russel and culter...
worst of both worlds.
by MountainManMike on Dec 13, 2009 3:40 PM CST up reply actions
This defense is terrible up the middle
We still need a NT, 2 MLBs, and Saftey for this defense to make the next step of being a top 15
Yep. NT is a MASSIVE need
We couldn’t stop the run for anything today.
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He isnt a NT
Maybe could play DE in our system but we arent hurting there. With our first pick the only NT option is Cody.
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Dec 13, 2009 3:34 PM CST up reply actions
yeah, we ARE hurting at D end
pretty much every position on the team needs an upgrade
The only measure of true success in the NFL is the Vince Lombardi trophy. Anything less is a rationalization.
You
Are crazy the guy is 6 3 300 and has a ton of room to put on more mass. Wilfork wasn’t a 350 pound d tackle when he came out either.
by cwebb44 on Dec 13, 2009 3:37 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
bones is right
He’s still a good 25lbs. or more under weight. You don’t take a speed monster like Suh and bulk him up to turn him into an NT when he’s not a natural fit. Adding weight to him will detract from his natural abilities. He’s a 3-4 DE or a 4-3 DT.
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Suh could play 4-3 DE, as well.
If he’s there, you take him, and worry about the ramifications, later.
Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.
Yeah he could
but when you already have two top 5 draft picks playing 3-4 DE why would you go there?
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Wilfork or draft Cody
Suh’s not big enough for our needs
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I don't get why he couldn't
he was constantly double teamed and proved that he could play in the middle
Yes but...
NFL > NCAA
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If the glove don't fit....
we don’t need a guy like that. We have EPIC needs everywhere else.
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true, but...
we will probably still have a high pick in the draft. if Suh is there whenever we do pick, I don’t think we pass on him
If we pick that high
I’d rather have Berry
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When you are as bad as we are
You don’t pick and choose what position you need. You take the best player available. If it’s a NT or LB or OL.
You don’t pass on a future all-pro player because he didn’t fit the position you are looking for. We are soo bad that we need help at every position.
I completely disagree
You should never take a player that you don’t need. If the guy is a 3-4 DE and you already have two that were each drafted in the top 5 and already have NFL game experience, you don’t do it again.
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If Reggie White was available and you knew that
he was going to go down as the best DE to ever play the game? Would you pass on him because he doesn’t fit your style?
Not me…I’ll make adjustments to figure out a way get him in my defense. And I will tell you that Suh looks more dominate than Reggie White did in college.
If this team was only a few pieces away from winning, I’d agree with you somewhat. But, we have holes everywhere.
Now is the time to do it.
It’s not like they have all the Pieces in place for the 3-4 at this time. I don’t care what the guy weighs, bottom line is that he is a man-child and takes on double teams all the time. I find it hard to believe that he couldn’t be productive at any position you put him on in the DL.
That's all fine and well for argument's sake
But that assumes the GM and Coach are going to be willing to adjust their chosen scheme. I don’t see it happening and here’s why; On Offense, they’ve gone to a zone blocking scheme because once implemented should be much easier to acquire players for. On Defense, they’ve moved towards a 3-4 because well… once implemented it should be much easier to acquire players for. You have to remember that they’re doing things for the long-term and quick fixes aren’t really a part of their plans.
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And wilfork is?
Look at his size it almost identical to suh’s
by cwebb44 on Dec 13, 2009 3:42 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
wilfork has 25 to 30 lbs on Suh.
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No
codey are how ever you spell it
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by Da Chiefs Guy on Dec 13, 2009 3:36 PM CST up reply actions
yaya Suh is the best player in this draft
problem he is going Top 3…and we are not getting a top 3 pick so no use talking about it
if we lose to Cleveland
then we’ve almost clinched #1, right?
If so.. then, Problem Solved
Ralph Wiggum would be a better GM than Dayton Moore
Tampa is 1-12 DET is 2-11
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
by NJChieffan16 on Dec 13, 2009 3:35 PM CST up reply actions
the Bucs are gaming the system
why else would you start a K-State QB unless you were trying to get the #1 pick?
Ralph Wiggum would be a better GM than Dayton Moore
I watched Freeman a lot in college
I was never impressed by him that much at all. He looks good in a uniform, but his decision making and consistency were terrible. He got drafted simply because he is tall and has a big arm. Ryan Leaf 2.0
by Soria's Unibrow on Dec 13, 2009 3:38 PM CST up reply actions
Very True...
This guys is a great QB on paper. But everytime I’ve watched him play I’m not seeing a future star there.
Not even close
I think we are at #5 right now.
Tampa, Detriot and STL are all shoe-ins for less than 3 wins.
Suh will be a fine player he isnt a 3-4 NT….End of story
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Dec 13, 2009 3:36 PM CST up reply actions
Peace..
It is a little after midnight here. Big day tomorrow got a big week before I get on that plane on Thursday to come home after 4 months in this shit hole
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
aight peace...
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
by NJChieffan16 on Dec 13, 2009 3:34 PM CST up reply actions
We need
Someone to tell Haley no let’s not do that it retarded.
by cwebb44 on Dec 13, 2009 3:34 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I finally found a way to enjoy this team,
I bet $100 against them. Go Chiefs!
good call...
i could use some extra Christmas cash this time of year.
by MountainManMike on Dec 13, 2009 3:44 PM CST up reply actions
Vegas Line
Bills -2.5 Bet of 120 wins 100. I went through sportsbook.com. Had to Western Union them money this morning because my credit card company doesn’t allow gambling.
by Bono Bootleg on Dec 13, 2009 4:57 PM CST up reply actions
I don’t know anymore. from gmdm to pioli, ttp? I can’t we were set up for success and we capitalize by losing? is this how it feels to be lions/browns/stl fan? expect the loss? I refuse. baltimore, jax, etc. the play calling is better but I’d honestly rather watch MLB network and the winter meetings than this crack team take the fid for one more Sunday. “inside the pads!” do not hold. Goddammit niswanger/chambers! I’d rather watch the mo mavs than this sorry excuse count me a jax fan from here on out. at least they have a direction and identity. Aaaaaaaahhhhhhhh!!!!! Just so upset/frustrated. Just 5 wins and you can’t even do that. Fuck kc sports and especially the chiefs bat least the royals let me know they’re bad but you hide it!
by 8k1c6 on Dec 13, 2009 3:36 PM CST via mobile reply actions
HEY GUESS WHAT
WE GOT JASON KENDALL HELL YES
by Soria's Unibrow on Dec 13, 2009 3:39 PM CST up reply actions
so glad Jenkins and bale are gone. Glad teagan was ‘trade bait.’ now if We cam eat guillens contract I keep reiterating our ineptitude when the Yankees offered us 100k for bannister. That’s how you know you’re a food team, when a piece of your rotation is only as good as a dollar
by 8k1c6 on Dec 13, 2009 3:56 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Oh Boy~~~We might draft third again!!!
Can we get another defensive end we never heard of again, could have had thirty other players might have helped. Look what Jermey Maclin is doing in Phil
I didn’t mind the Cassel trade considering what we gave up and Vrabel was thrown in but to throw the dude money before he proved anything and now watch him single handedly lose games it has made me realize the chiefs are no where near to being a respectable team, He is a horrible excuss for a starting qb, atleast when thiggy, or brokie was back there, not much was expected because we hadn’t invested a wholelot in them. Now I find my self having to defend the chiefs everyday on there moves and play in general, Thank you Matt Cassel and see horrible wr’s atleast now we may have a shot at Eric Berry.
by SKyNYrDCHiEF44 on Dec 13, 2009 3:47 PM CST via mobile reply actions
God I hope so
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You don't need to defend them to be a fan. Just the fact that you know as much as you can tells EVERYone you're a hard-core fan (with class)
Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.
Maybe its just the TV coverage but does anyone else notice how when they show a QB like Payton Manning he is looking at pictures of the D, talking to his W's. Whenever they show Cassel his is just walking around.
bothers me.
Would ya like a free NANAA!
by Jazzy Megalodon on Dec 13, 2009 3:55 PM CST reply actions
I’m a younger fan, so the 3-4 is ‘exotic.’ i liked the switch but WE are a 4-3 team. No depth behind Edwards. WTF?’ cut Wade Wade, belcher, mike brown. We are built as a 4-3 and ‘push’ blocking. Square peg in a round hole? Don’t force bit adapt? That’s why a goof coach does. I’d strength and cchamge gameplans
by 8k1c6 on Dec 13, 2009 4:42 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
lmao
-Erykah Badu, I have accepted your proposal. So, Mrs. DTR, let's get to consummating...you are on notice.
-"All praise Chiefus."
by DThomasReigns on Dec 13, 2009 4:25 PM CST up reply actions
Disgustingly Bad Blame Scott Poili
Clark Hunt does not know anything on how to run a business and Scott Pioli left Todd Haley out to dry his year. Poili bought a QB only because he was from NE but forget to buy the meat (OL) and potatoes (WR) that are needed to have success. Blame Scott Pioli for the mess this year. Why is everyone giving him a free pass of a shitty job so far!!.
by NFL season ticket holder on Dec 13, 2009 4:18 PM CST reply actions
Na, blame CP this year
if it’s near this bad next year, blame Pioli.
Predictions:
Kansas City will not win more than four games in 2009
Kansas City will have a new OC and DC in 2010
Kansas City will win at least seven games in 2010
where are we letting Pioli off the hook?
He is paid millions to define where they need help. Yes you can not rebuild in 1 year but you should not have to start in the same place you were at this time last year. If not worst off that you were last year. It took them until week 6 to find 5 OL. It’s taken them 13 weeks to play WRs in back to back games. i did not expect much but this season has been a complete waste of money for anyone that had to pay to watch them play this year. I see no progress in this organization.
by NFL season ticket holder on Dec 13, 2009 4:32 PM CST up reply actions
all these arguments have been rehashed constantly
I’m no saying there’s anything inherently wrong with your opinion, I just don’t agree with it. Installing a new D and new O rarely has good results in the first season of transition. Denver has done it fairly well, but they had a lot more talent to start with.
Predictions:
Kansas City will not win more than four games in 2009
Kansas City will have a new OC and DC in 2010
Kansas City will win at least seven games in 2010
Pioli has brought in virtually nothing - Cassel aside, and no protection or OL upgrade for the QB is absurd
seriously, Pioli did no homework on this team coming in and it APPEARS he spent the off-season making slogans like “The Right 53” and “The Plan” (aka The Process) and “I’m Too Busy Too Discuss The Direction Of The Team WIth The Only Pro-Bowler Still On The Roster”
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!
because you can't bring pver an entire team in 1 half of an offseason
he did replace what 75% of the players here?
Only thing more disgusting
The only thing more disgusting than an Chiefs lost was while we were driving home where we got to see a Police chase where the dummy that tried to out the Independence police flew off the road and mostly likely threw away his life.
The driver flew over the guard rail into a spinning dive off a 50 foot drop. Had sad for them..
by NFL season ticket holder on Dec 13, 2009 4:25 PM CST reply actions
What?
-Erykah Badu, I have accepted your proposal. So, Mrs. DTR, let's get to consummating...you are on notice.
-"All praise Chiefus."
by DThomasReigns on Dec 13, 2009 4:27 PM CST up reply actions
today's Darwin award winner
maybe he took one for the human race today
The only measure of true success in the NFL is the Vince Lombardi trophy. Anything less is a rationalization.
Tyson Jackson had 8 tackles
That’s nice to see. Hopefully he isn’t going to emerge just as Dorsey had a major injury… Any word on what happened to him?
Predictions:
Kansas City will not win more than four games in 2009
Kansas City will have a new OC and DC in 2010
Kansas City will win at least seven games in 2010
He made more plays and got burned more, too, to my eye.
Prediction for '09: Chiefs are looking like a .500 team, especially considering Denver's inattention to D-Line, Chokeland's disarray, and a San Diego team that looks like it's on the decline. With a weak schedule, Chiefs steal a few and win between 7 and 9 games, and if .500 or better, will contend for supremacy in a weak division.
I agree actually
and was surprised to see him get credited with so many. The one play that stuck out to me was when the RB was forced toward the sideline by the LBs, and TJ appeared to be jogging as he chased toward the guy. Pretty disappointing in that respect.
Predictions:
Kansas City will not win more than four games in 2009
Kansas City will have a new OC and DC in 2010
Kansas City will win at least seven games in 2010
Seems like it's alway one player who screws up in key moments
The overthrows by Cassel when Bradley was open in the endzone… Dropped passes on well thrown balls in key situations… The miscommunication on that 4th down in the 1st quarter. KC is NOT ready to win mentally. This reminded me of the first Oakland game.
Predictions:
Kansas City will not win more than four games in 2009
Kansas City will have a new OC and DC in 2010
Kansas City will win at least seven games in 2010
I am so sick of this team
Dorsey = bust, Albert = bust, releasing Pollard=biggest bust of my life, TJ=super bust and worst reach pick ever, our whole team is a f’ing joke. I really dont see anything changing anytime soon. we will make another huge reach with our next pick, picking only who we think we need rather than the best athlete, etc. Im almost glad I dont get the games where i live. PATHETIC!
Well if TJ is a super bust in his first season
The same could be said about Peyton Manning, Troy Aikman, and countless others. I think this is a bit of a knee jerk reaction here
this is like comparing apples to pizza. drafting a qb in the top 5, you expect a game changer. drafting tj, a guy who won’t put up stats and absolutely disappears and is over-shadowed by a udfa named wallace is absolutely unacceptable. i’d take the STD named DHB over tj at this point. swear to god if we don’t grab okung or fox, pioli has no idea what’s going on. he’ll probably grab suh for ‘depth.’ i’d rather hit ‘simulate season’ on madden than see what happens next. i’m utterly ashamed
by 8k1c6 on Dec 13, 2009 10:16 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Actually---
Dorsey was supposed to be the best in the whole draft!
What do the Chiefs need?
They sorely need offensive linemen but just once I’d like to see them draft a real QB. One of the best Chief QBs was Bill Kenney and he went to college in Greeley Colorado for crying out loud. In 50 years you would think just once they could draft a pro quality QB. Dawson as most of you know was not drafted
thing that bothers me most is ... we needed OLine BEFORE the season started
and that was never addressed thru the draft – we SHOULD have taken OL OL OL and then OL OL and OL … and Succop
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!
Do I ever agree with that
In spite of my QB comments.
Uh... actually... neither was Kenney.
Anyway… not by the Chiefs. Kenney was 1978’s “Mr. Irrelevant” (on a technicality) and was drafted by the Dolphins. The Chiefs got him on the waiver wire.
John
"Gentlemen! You can't fight in here. This is the War Room!"
I'm late getting back here but--
I never said Kenney was drafted by the Chiefsjust that he was a good Chiefs QB. Also I meant to say that Dawson was not drafted by the CHIEFS. It was Pittsburgh I believe and they let a hall of famer get away.
car chase update
DEPENDECE, Mo. – Three people were injured after a police chase Sunday afternoon.
The chase ended near Interstate 70 and Lee’s Summit Road after the driver lost control of the car and crashed into an embankment.
It happened around 3 p.m. Sunday.
Police confirmed three people inside the car were injured, but their injuries are not life-threatening.
Traffic was backed up for hours, according to authorities.
It is not yet known why police were chasing the car. Police have not released any other information.
by NFL season ticket holder on Dec 13, 2009 7:18 PM CST reply actions
wonder if this was cassel, pioli, and Haley trying to get the fuck out of kc ala petrino?
by 8k1c6 on Dec 13, 2009 10:23 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
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