Cassel Doesn't Have It.

is too slow indivcense overrated who u need is a guy like k orton utill u can get a qb

just needs a chance J-man. He was a winner at Alabama and he can win for the Chiefs.

I am completely comfortable with Cassel/Croyle as Starter/backup but Croyle will be FA this year I think. It’s in Croyles hands on that. Cassel and Croyle are a combined 53 in age. I am getting close to that number all by myself. Let the QB’s grow into the position.
With a better team around both of them :)

Remember TrINT Green when he first came to KC? Everyone wanted to throw him under the bus. Ok, on to my next point. I like Croyle and I think he is a good QB. How many chances has he had to be our QB? A lot of chances. It isn’t his fault he got injured but it is his fault that he didn’t step up when it counted against Thigpen and Huard. He did start in week one which we were pretty much the same team and he played well but couldn’t get the win. Cassel has a lot of problems he needs to work on. He holds onto the ball too long, he can overthrow and underthrow, and makes bad decisions in the pocket. I want to give Cassel another season because he has shown he has the tools. It takes QB’s a while to mold with a team. Peyton Manning had I think over 20 picks his first year as a QB. I bet a lot of people wanted to throw him under the bus. What I’m saying is be patient and good things are most likely to come. We don’t have much to lose. We are rebuilding and have to be patient anyways. If Cassel doesn’t pan out then that is fine. Give Croyle a season to show that he can stay healthy and we’ll see what he has. We brought in Cassel for a reason.

Tall, mobile, not great peripheral vision, slow release.

Bono was successful in SFO. So was Grbac, for that matter. But not quite top-shelf, either, and you needed something more with the poor tackle play of the Chiefs since John Alt retired (OK, brief period with Roaf and Tait that made TrINT into something to talk about).

I think Cassel is probably better than Bono, but not good enough to prosper with this team, at present. Can the team be built around him? Sure, it can. Until it’s built, we’ve made PLENTY of QB moves for the near term. If the offense continues to struggle after the line and WRs are sorted out, then we’ll know for sure Cassel’s a waste. That point in time will come right around the time his guaranteed money runs out, so the Chiefs have a rugged QB, who has the inside track for when the team matures, and they can walk away from him if things don’t gel.

He’s being coached very conservatively, because the Chiefs do not have the talent to be resilient in case things go south on ’em. At least that seems to be the thinking.

I’m more of a risk-taker myself (and have the scars to prove it). So I don’t care a whole lot for the conservative philosophy, but I also have seen enough times how much this team struggles when they DO open it up. Unwilling to take the heat when this doesn’t pay immediate dividends, there are certain aspects of the offense that simply CAN’T manifest, right now.

As far as Brodie Croyle goes, I don’t think he could be a worse NFL QB. He’s had his shot and he flat out sucked. He’s a gunslinger with a strong arm who makes poor decisions, can’t scramble for shit and has severe durability problems. I’m not a fan and no matter who else is in there and is playing like crap, I’d hate to see Croyle take go back in to take his place.

Now Cassel, he’s not playing well and he seems to be regressing. I’ve been saying for about a month now that we’re turning him into a head-case. By no means do I think the line is playing well enough to earn a pass, but they are showing improvement while Cassel seems to be getting worse. I’m willing to let it slide this year. He’s on a shit team in a shit system without a QB coach to lean on. He has a direct line to a HC who is overextended and often acts like a lunatic during games.

I’m willing to see it through to next year with him with the expectation that he and his team (including the GM and Coach) have an incredible amount to prove. This team is not complete. Next year, it had better be and as such, Cassel better play much better.

I know this has been beaten like a dead horse…BUT…

Tyler Thigpen was the best option for this season. He has the legs to get away from the blitz and make plays that Cassel nor Croyle can.

I was watching him in the Texans preseason game and he made that TD throw to Cottam. It was very impressive….he was scrambling away from defenders buying time and then fakes like he is running and throws a no look pass in the end zone to a wide open Cottam.

Thigpen could have been taking the hits this season buying time until we get the oline fixed and get a solid WR corp. But now Cassel is getting banged up badly and having horrible games as a result….also probably losing some confidence.

I dont think Tom Brady himself could have done much better than Cassel has for the Chiefs.
Just picture Brady, for a moment, as our QB; does that translate into a winning season? No.

Joe

That its good if your starting QB has a low INT rate. Its like Chris Chambers was saying, this isnt all on Cassel, the recievers have to run the right routes and catch the balls they get their hands on.

Look at his deep throws (the few that he’s thrown all year) and that’s all the proof you need. A 40 yard pass looks like a freakin punt! Chambers has had to slow down, and almost wait for all the deep balls he’s caught this year.

Brodie throws it with some balls, he just needs to hit the target.