Study: Kansas City is Saturated with Sports Franchises
Recently, Portfolio.com analyzed 82 professional sports markets to determine which cities were overextended with their sports franchises and which ones had room for more teams.
How did they come up with these "saturation" numbers and how did Kansas City do?
It's there, after the jump.
Portfolio took the total personal income of a city (the sum of all income earned by residents in an area) and compared it against team revenue and ticket prices to determine a city's capability to support the franchises. Make sense? Take how much a team makes and how much ticket prices are and compare it against how much cash a city makes in a year. The higher the total personal income, the higher the ability a city has to support more franchises.
Portfolio determined these to be the minimum total personal income thresholds for each league:
- MLB - $86.7 billion
- NFL - $37.3 billion
- MLS - $13.9 billion
KC has all three of these franchises - the Royals, Chiefs and the Wizards. Kansas City would need a total personal income of $137.9 billion each year to "officially" be able to support all three of these.
As you probably guessed, KC falls short - $57 billion short in fact. Kansas City's total personal income in 2008 was $80.8 billion.
The Biz Journal's study doesn't suggest that KC is going to lose a franchise - only suggesting that the city will have issues with attendance and revenue in these franchises in the near future.
This study does suggest that supporting a new sports franchise, say in the Sprint Center downtown, would be very difficult for Kansas City.
I completely agree. The idea that came up a few years ago about Kansas City getting an NHL or an NBA team seemed ludicrous to me. KC is a football town at heart and frankly I don't think it's citizens really have that much interest in baseball, hockey or basketball.
If we're talking about an NFL television blackout for the city's most beloved franchise, how in the hell could Kansas City support any new franchise?
Anybody who is pulling for Kansas City to get an NHL or NBA team is legitimately crazy. Or stands to make a lot of money. It's one of those two.
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I don't know if KC could support another franchise
I agree KC is a football town. But I think a successful team in a well run league (this would leave out MLB) could always have a chance. The Kings were actually fairly popular considering how low the NBA was ranked in those days (it was difficult for the NBA to even get live network broadcasts for playoff games in the late 70s – pre Larry and Magic).
I find it interesting the MLB requires so much more income than having the most popular sports league, the NFL. Another reason I have questions about whether MLB will be viable in the long run.
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I think it is because of the
900 game schedule and the bloated player contracts
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by Scaryclouds on Dec 10, 2009 9:20 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Seriously...
baseball from April to October, really? Makes it hard to appreciate any 10 or 20 game winning streak when they still have 150 some games still to play.
by RA_ChiefsFan on Dec 10, 2009 9:30 AM CST up reply actions
RE: the Royals
they were very popular until the early 90s. If MLB would attempt to adopt a level playing field, I think they’d have a chance again. Until that happens, there’s no point in caring about baseball unless you’re a NY, Boston or LA fan. Even if you draft great, players leave once they hit their prime these days.
Predictions:
Kansas City will not win more than four games in 2009
Kansas City will have a new OC and DC in 2010
Kansas City will win at least seven games in 2010
Agreed - I was a big Royals fan
For me their success in the late 70s and early to mid 80s was sort of a consolation prize while the Chiefs struggled. But you’re mostly correct (add Chicago to your list), baseball and their unwillingness to have any real salary cap or revenue sharing has created something like an 8 team championship league and a 22 team player development league.
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You can maybe argue KC isn't a pro-basketball town
But with the school that invented Basketball right next door and being a perennial contender in the NCAA, this town likes its college hoops.
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by Scaryclouds on Dec 10, 2009 9:18 AM CST via mobile reply actions
I'd trade the Royals for a NBA team in a heartbeat
I’m definitely in the minority about disliking college athletics. I almost always prefer watching better players, but I understand how people have ties to schools around here.
Same here
Though I would prefer NHL to NBA.
Personally I think college hoops is better than NBA. part of the reason may because there are no local NBA teams, but another is I don’t care for many of the NBA players. A lot of them seem somewhat thuggish. The NBA doesn’t seem to push it’s players to do community service like the NFL does.
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by Scaryclouds on Dec 10, 2009 9:37 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I live in san antonio...
and i never liked the NBA until I moved down here, even when I lived in seatle. The Spurs are a model franchise and you don’t see any of that thuggish BS from a single Spurs player. A franchise like that would be good for KC if it could support it, which I doubt, but it def brings national media attention down here. I will say that an NBA team that is full of players that aren’t thugs and go about their jobs quietly and professionally doesn’t get as much attention as the other teams, even though they’ve won 4-9 titles.
nba is easier to support
as opposed to filling a 40,000 to 50,000 seat baseball stadium the much smaller basketball arenas are much more likely to have a better percentage of seats sold. the same would go for hockey. but personally i still think college basketball would trump a new nba franchise.
by chief in colorado on Dec 11, 2009 2:32 AM CST up reply actions
I believe this was part of the reason why the Sonics went to Oklahoma...
they didn’t want to have to compete with baseball and football. As much as I love the KC metro area we are not a big market city that can sustain another pro sport. Plus in order for another team to come in and thrive they would need to be successful. It’s bad enough we’ve had to suffer through the Royals’ repeated years of mediocrity, add on to that the lowly state of the Chiefs and it’s going to be hard for an NBA or NHL team to come in here and survive if they’re not winning championships quickly. I guess on the bright side we got a nice shiny stadium to see the occasional concert in.
As much as I love going to Chiefs games...
I’d give my season tickets up in a heartbeat for NBA tickets.
Over 48 hours in the car, traveling over 3600 miles round trip all to see the Conference of Champions play in the 2010 Holiday and Rose Bowls.
There's alot of other sporting events
I’m sure alot of money is allocated to attending college game, especially if you are a grad of missouri or kansas. Some people it is racing with a major track or all of the smaller ones. With all of the gamgling available there’s a chunk.
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I think an NBA team would thrive here given a couple of years to take off
I for one would’nt buy season tickets, but would go take in several games depending on the opposing team.
Its hard to imagine a NHL team coming here much less surviving. I think KC is missing out if they dont get something done with the wizards stadium,and let it go to the land of OZ and make believe birds.
This study is overly simplistic.
- First off it shouldn’t measure personal income, it should measure disposable income. The thresholds they have established don’t take into account things like cost-of-living. For example, let’s say you make $40,000 in Johnson County. On average, the same job in San Jose pays $45,000. On the face of it, it appears San Jose residents have an extra 5K to spend on the San Jose Sharks. In reality, your mortgage, taxes, and living expenses are much higher in San Jose—almost 50% higher than living in Olathe. Even though you make less in Olathe, you have more money left after paying the bills to spend on things like Wizards games.
- It assumes there are no other viable entertainment options. Even though Norfolk and Las Vegas have similar amounts of available personal income, there are a LOT more entertainment options in Las Vegas than in eastern Virginia. In fact, Las Vegas has some of the lowest personal savings rates in the country, indicating (to a degree) that peoples money on luxuries and entertainment are already stretched. These “thresholds” in reality are incredibly variable depending on the market.
- No direct measure of corporate support. I’m sure the threshold number implies some degree of corporate support, but again its quite variable. Why does Norfolk not have a franchise? Because 35% of its regional economy is in the defense industry, which has some of the lowest revenue support of sports entertainment (Northrop-Grumman Arena?). If the CEOs of Garmin and Sprint grew up playing on the same ice rink in Toronto, there would be an NHL franchise in KC within a year. With the right corporate sponsorship, any region could support an additional sports franchise.
- The contention that, “these cities will have issues with attendance and revenue in the future.” Oh, really? The KC market is not a boom-and-bust region. Growth has been fairly steady over the past few decades. The relative personal income now is not appreciably different than when the MLS Wizards started playing in 1996. KC’s “personal income threshold shortfall” has been the largely same for the last 13 years. Still, the Chiefs have been top three in attendance for most of those years. The Royals had their 2nd best attendance numbers since 1994 this year—one of the worst economic years on record when money should be short. The Wizards are getting offers on both sides of the state line for a new stadium-a massive commitment and investment, one that investors don’t make without researching the entertainment market.
It’s not income that keeps people out of the stadium, it’s the LOSING. The Chiefs aren’t threatened with their first blackout because of competition with the Royals and Wizards, it’s because the Chiefs have gone 5-32 and nobody wants to watch their team lose-again-on a cold day in the middle of December. People went to Royals games because people went to see Greinke win. I defy any market in the country to go through the Royals last 20 years and still pull 22,500 in a 65-97 season. Winning breeds attendance and the additional revenue that comes with it.
Would an NHL team do well in KC? If it loses 75% of the time like the KC Scouts did in the mid ‘70s, probably not. If it’s a consistent winner, I think it would.
by Cairo on Dec 10, 2009 1:25 PM CST reply actions 6 recs
My sentiments exactly...
The Royals were one of the few teams to increase attendance last year. Some will say that is because of the new stadium, if you ask me that offset the economic downturn of last year. Fact is, Royals started out strong, Greinke was a beast and the fans returned.
Dont get me wrong I love football, but KC is as much a baseball town as it is a football town and if they are in a pennant race any time in the near future you will see as much blue as you see red in KC.
Not only that… But I dont have any specifics, but I remember reading somewhere that KC has one of the fastest growing networks in America.
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by averagegatsby on Dec 10, 2009 1:42 PM CST up reply actions
KC has one of the fastest growing networks in America
What do you mean?
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network was the wrong word...
I meant markets.
And remember this is paraphrasing off the top of my head. But the KC metro area is growing fairly well. And of course there are markets like Pittsburgh and Detroit that are actually shrinking. Thats not to say that the KC area is going to be a top 10 market in the near future, just that when compared to other markets its growing faster. That could be because the KC market has more room to grow than others.
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by averagegatsby on Dec 10, 2009 2:19 PM CST up reply actions
ok
Yeah, haven’t seen those statistics. Interesting. I would have thought KC is suffering similarly as a “rust belt” city and people fleeing to the coasts.
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Well...
From what I understand KC’s big company’s are a little more diverse, not as dependent on the steel market like Pittsburgh, or the automotive industry like Detroit.
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by averagegatsby on Dec 10, 2009 2:24 PM CST up reply actions
Now that I think of it...
the article may have only been comparing the Midwestern markets.
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by averagegatsby on Dec 10, 2009 2:26 PM CST up reply actions
Most likely.
On average, growth in the United States is still in the Sun Belt. KC is growing faster than the Rust Belt, slower than the Sun Belt, and about average with the rest of the US. This isn’t a bad thing: when you have 30% metropolitan growth in 8 years like you do in places like Austin, Phoenix, and Las Vegas it can really stress infrastructure and services, and cities often lose a lot of their regional character and identity.
Or on a smaller scale..
Look at the logistics problems in Branson.
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by averagegatsby on Dec 10, 2009 2:46 PM CST up reply actions
very good post
To answer you and averagegatsby below, I think KC will very ably support the Royals if they were serious about winning. Unfortunately, the economics of baseball are atrocious thanks to Selig and the rich, big city owners AND we’ve had an el cheapo owner that has had the wrong philosophy. He has always seemed to think that “I’ll spend the money once the fans start attending enough” instead of the proper and logical path that “if I spend the money, make the commitment, then the fans will come.”
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It would also help
if the Royals actually had a competent GM since John Schuerholz went to Atlanta. I think if KC had Tampa’s talent the Royals would be much more popular than the Rays are in their city.
KC is a very good sports town, when residents are given a good product.
Predictions:
Kansas City will not win more than four games in 2009
Kansas City will have a new OC and DC in 2010
Kansas City will win at least seven games in 2010
If they win...
I think it all depends on a team winning. If the Royals do good, that the K will be packed, as is Arrowhead when the Chiefs play well. If KC were to get an NBA team then I would bet the Sprint Center would be sold out if the team plays well, but as usual you have fairweather fans that don’t want to support a team that is losing. If KC had an NBA team to go along with the Chiefs, Royals, & Wizards, and all four teams were championship caliber, then the seats would be filled every game. I feel KC could support another franchise, but in my world the entire city is full of die hards that support their teams no matter what. With that in mind I know that KC couldn’t support another franchise, which goes against what I feel.
They could support another team.
To me Kansas City is a perfect City for an NBA team but honestly I’m more a hockey fan soo that wouldnt work out too well. But overall the money base would be basketball we are close to KU and somewhat to Mizzou so you would gather a good fan base
I think KC IS a college basketball town
but who knows about NBA. I personally hate it and think it’s boring.
KC has a very good college sports scene because of so many residents living there that are of all alumni of the surrounding (former) Big 8 schools.
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I don't like the NBA either
but I do hear that it’s gotten better than it was in the 90s & earlier part of the decade. I prefer the NHL, but either league would do well in KC with a good team.
Predictions:
Kansas City will not win more than four games in 2009
Kansas City will have a new OC and DC in 2010
Kansas City will win at least seven games in 2010
KC could support another team
If they are winners. KC is the biggest bandwagon market. KC fans (people living in KC) are sorry ass fans. Of course….That will take revenue away from the Royals…but who gives a shit about the Royals as long as a winner is in town?
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
thats the way it is
within most major markets. having lived in or around several sports markets (denver, LA, DC, Philidelphia, and huston) you see the same everywhere. since it is the local team you will have bandwagon people jumping on and off constantly. it seems worse because you are right in the face of the problem. my best example has been watching the rockies over the last 3 years, ticket sales at coors firld is like a roller coaster.
by chief in colorado on Dec 11, 2009 2:38 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah I guess
But how is ticket sales for the Donks? I mean the Rockies are Denver’s second team to the Donks. When is the last time they had a blackout?
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13

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