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Just Rambling Some Thoughts Here

Thanks for giving this a look feel free to scrutinize me about anything but I'm just going to cover some things that I would like to get an outside opinion on.

Star-divide

As much as I'd love to see it, Eric Berry probably won't be a Chief.

 I was high on Taylor Mays until I saw Eric Berry play this season.. The dude looks promising, but I don't seem to recall Pioli and co. attending any Tennessee games. I'll just be honest, while I like to think I can pick out every guy who will succeed in the NFL, there's a reason why Scott Pioli talks to players and I talk about them.

Why do I get the feeling we're drafting a Tackle with our first pick hoping Mount Cody falls to us in the second?

 

Pioli and co. need to seriously think about trading for Sebastian Vollmer

If we could land Vollmer for our early second we will have robbed the Patriots.. Vollmer is a legitimate LT in the NFL. Some of his first NFL starts came against  Miami (Joey Porter), the Colts(Freeney/ Mathis), and the Titans (Kearse/ Vanden Bosch) and he played valiantly. Imagine Vollmer, Albert, Waters, Ndukwe (or Smith), and O'callaghan? Then again Vollmer was a second round choice so we'd probably have to throw in another pick.

  

I've always dreamt of having a red and gold clad Wilfork play in between two red and gold clad first round picks

But it looks like it isn't going to happen.. From everythig I've read, the Pats aren't exactly high on Ron Brace. I'm betting the plan was to let Wilfork go to free agency so they could sign Seymour to an extension and plug in the youngster. One problem, the youngster doesn't exactly look like a rockstar. So they export Seymour so they can sign Wilfork. The NT is key in the 3-4 and New England will lock theirs up for another 5 solid years of production hoping they find or develop a replacement. That said I'm crossing my fingers. If Wilfork hits the market Pioli may splurge to get him. Could you imagine the destruction!?

 

I get a gut feeling Mangini shatters my dreams and reels in Weis

Mangini needs somethng big to happen to save his butt from being kicked back down to coordinator or college head coach (Lane Kiffin style), and Weis is something big (in more than one way).  Plus it'd be a perfect marriage. Correct me if I'm wrong but Mangini is a defense coach, and Weis is an offense coach, no conflict, each man sticks to his guns and contributes to the greater cause. BONUS Weis would be able to work with Brady Quinn (who he fooled everyone into thinking was an NFL quarterback) and pick up some Notre Dame players with their draft position. Clausen and Tate fill two needs and will be picked around 1-5 and 32- 37 respectively.

 

On second thought Crennel is more important to me than Weis

I think Haley is developing a lot as an HC/OC and for his own sake he should hold on to that title until he gets some credibility in the NFL, then some young up and coming positions coach that will do everything he says can be hired. On the offensive side the position I see with the most urgency to fill is QB coach. Haley has always been a receivers guy, what the hell is he doing coaching quarterbacks!? How you find a QB coach I don't know but we need one, prefferably one that comes with a late round QB prospect to groom for the future.

 As for the defense, Pendergast's "creativity" is not working, and his strong suit (secondary) has been vastly underperforming compared to what the previous regime got out of them. I think if we can keep Pendergast on as a secondary coach and bring in Crennel (who's specialty is D line), teamed with Gibbs, whose been doing a phenomenal job coaching linebackers, we'll have a pretty solid staff for defense.

 

Does it irritate anyone else that players that have "escaped" Kansas City since Pioli arrived are succeeding?

Bernard Pollard and Larry Johnson were meant to be made examples of. Instead Johnson got his first 100 yard game in who knows how long and will probably get to go to playoffs seeing as the Bengals have swept their division. Also Berard Pollard is a vital key to the Texans defense and is even drawing some Pro Bowl talks!

 

That's all I got. Fire away and thanks for reading

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I'm ok with Haley calling the plays

I agree that he does seem to be getting better with the playcalling as the season progresses, though he still looks to be pretty conservative in the first halves of games. The added involvement of Charles is allowing him to be a little more agressive, though.

What is very concerning is Clancy’s defense and the lack of adjustments and just plain boneheadedness. Antonio Gates being able to release freely from the line and never run into double coverage is mind-boggling. I’m getting real sick of guys coming and putting up season-high numbers on us. It’s gotten more than a little ridiculous.

While we’re at it, get a QB coach as well. Cassel needs to work on his mechanics a bit. It doesn’t seem like he is releasing the ball at the top of his throwing motion. Instead he seems to be pushing the ball a little causing it to come off flat and low and into the helments and outstretched arms of DLinemen. His reads need coaching also. He’s too hesitant in the pocket, often throwing to guys AFTER they’re open as opposed to anticipating better.
  
As for LJ… Even Matt Forte behind Chicago’s dismal OLine put up 2 TDs and 80+ yards vs. Cleveland. How’s HE looked in his other games? I wouldn’t put too much stock into LJ’s performance on Sunday.

Got nothing to say about Pollard, really. Sounds like he has become a leader in the seconday and has brought a lil swag with him. He’ll show his true colors, but as it stands now our replacement is no better vs the pass OR the run, and has zero uspide.

"The first step to penetration... must not be lateral"
-Confucius, in contrary to Glenn Dorsey lining up in the 2-tech

by ArrowSpread on Dec 1, 2009 5:58 AM CST reply actions  

very true about LJ

I’m just getting pissed that ESPN keeps running stories about his “resurgence”

Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.

by 808NaNz808 on Dec 1, 2009 11:39 AM CST up reply actions  

nice post

I agree with Todd’s plays are receptacle. But he isn’t a legit threat. And if im right Ken Wishinhunt was calling the plays for Arizona last year.

Hate Larry Johnson.

by royalsfan99 on Dec 1, 2009 7:10 AM CST reply actions  

I like the post

I think Haley has been doing fine calling the plays and running the O. I’d like to see our OC for next year brought in as the QB coach now and “groomed” under Haley then take over as OC at the end of the season.
The D is literally killing any chances of success. Pendergast is not a good DC. I really don’t care when, but the DC must change. Agree that the secondary performance has really dropped and the QB pressure is horrific. We can never be a good team until the D is rock solid. Coaching is a huge key for us to become legitimate.

The two obvious keys from the spanking the Saints gave the Patsies – Protect your QB and harass the opposing QB. These are our two major weaknesses and why we can’t be respectable yet.

by TXChiefan on Dec 1, 2009 7:21 AM CST up reply actions  

That's what I was thinking

If we could bring in a QB coach that could be taught the system under Haley we could have a pretty solid staff. I was hoping Zorn would get fired cuz the dude is a hell of a QB coach

Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.

by 808NaNz808 on Dec 1, 2009 11:41 AM CST up reply actions  

you are not right.

haley called the plays in arizona last year and half of the previous year

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by kcguy on Dec 1, 2009 7:38 AM CST up reply actions  

Receptacle?

Main Entry: re·cep·ta·cle
Pronunciation: \ri-ˈsep-ti-kəl\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French, from Latin receptaculum, from receptare to receive, frequentative of recipere to receive
Date: 15th century
1 : one that receives and contains something : container
2 [New Latin receptaculum, from Latin] a : the end of the flower stalk upon which the floral organs are borne b : a structure or tissue (as of a fungus or fern) bearing spores or sporangia
3 : a mounted female electrical fitting that contains the live parts of the circuit

Now about Ken Whisenhunt calling the plays last year. Is this just failure to know anything or are you claiming to have some inside knowledge of what was really going on in AZ?

I’m guessing that since you can’t even spell the head coach’s name that you don’t have any inside info.

On a seriious note, be honest…just for a second. You don’t even watch football do you?

This is my signature line. It is full of awesome and win.

by KCSatchmo on Dec 1, 2009 1:31 PM CST up reply actions  

easy with the personal attacks there

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers

by stagdsp on Dec 1, 2009 2:07 PM CST up reply actions  

It's a legitimate question

This is my signature line. It is full of awesome and win.

by KCSatchmo on Dec 1, 2009 2:11 PM CST up reply actions  

just try to question his points, instead of his aptitude

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers

by stagdsp on Dec 1, 2009 4:00 PM CST up reply actions  

a mounted female

Air Cassel - approved for takeoff

by kabrink on Dec 2, 2009 2:45 PM CST up reply actions  

nice

lol

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by Buck'O on Dec 2, 2009 3:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Yep

football is a team sport. You put a guy on a bad team with bad support and he will probably kind of suck. Put him on a good team with good support and his play will be more noticeable.

Larry isn’t suddenly a good running back again. He had a good game against a terrible team behind a good line. Do you guys think Benson just suddenly got it? That Bernard Scott is the next Barry Sanders? Hell no. The Bengals have blocking and when you have blocking running backs get yards.

That is why I am so impressed with Jamaal Charles. This kid is one of the rare running backs that can make his BLOCKERS look better. If he can learn to hold on to the ball he has the chance to be a pro bowler.

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by Patrick Allen on Dec 1, 2009 8:13 AM CST up reply actions  

Personally, I don't think him holding onto the ball is a real problem.

He was stripped, he didn’t fumble it or drop it on his own or anything. It’s a correctable mistake of just putting the ball in two hands/arms in traffic.

I agree with you on everything else though. Pollard is on a better team overall than he was here and that inherently makes HIM look better as well.

If you only knew...

by IISaiNtII on Dec 1, 2009 8:29 AM CST up reply actions  

Right, Houston has a pretty good secondary. Pollard doesn't have to.....

….do some things he had to do in KC, like play coverage. The CBs are good enough that he can do what he does best, come up closer to the line and put a licking on somebody. That is why it has been so good for him, they don’t ask him to do what KC asked him to do.

Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.

by BigRedChief on Dec 1, 2009 9:27 AM CST up reply actions  

I guess your right

but like I said about LJ earlier, I hate that ESPN is calling his move to Houston a “resurgence” It makes us look like the Raiders with how they destroy careers

Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.

by 808NaNz808 on Dec 1, 2009 11:42 AM CST up reply actions  

Eh,

ESPN is just a bunch of douchenozzles. 99% of what they say is drivel.

If you only knew...

by IISaiNtII on Dec 1, 2009 12:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Why would Weis want to go to the train wreck that is Cleveland?

So he can be with Quinn? Doubt thats enough. NE or KC seem the only likely places.

"What?!?! I aint no Obama for the weed!"
-Turk McBride

by HIV 2 Elway on Dec 1, 2009 8:31 AM CST reply actions  

I wouldn't be upset if Weis came to KC but I wouldn't be thrilled either......

… I personally would like to see more of an progressive and agressive play caller. Kinda like Todd Haley WAS in Arizona. He has this offense choked down so much sometimes that I feel like he is setting up the opposing defense for some kind of big play….. but it never comes. I say bring in Schottenheimer, no not Marty. Brian Schottenheimer is a really creative OC for the Jets and I think he could really do some good for this team but I’m not sure his next position will be anything less than a head coach. Possibly Pioli could give him the title of assistant HC and that may be enough to sway him KC’s way…. that and a big bag of cash.

Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.

by BigRedChief on Dec 1, 2009 9:35 AM CST reply actions  

If Pioli really likes Weis

would he fire Haley and bring in Charlie as new HC. Weis might be a candidate for HC in the NFL.

by choirboy on Dec 1, 2009 12:02 PM CST reply actions  

hell no

Weis couldn’t even do it on the college level.. His greatest capacity will be as OC in the NFL

Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.

by 808NaNz808 on Dec 1, 2009 12:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Nope, don't see that happening at all.

Haley is the coach here for at least 3 years.

If you only knew...

by IISaiNtII on Dec 1, 2009 12:13 PM CST up reply actions  

The NFL is different

Weis wouldn’t have to deal with recruiting. I don’t think he was that bad at Notre Dame.

by choirboy on Dec 1, 2009 12:13 PM CST reply actions  

There is no reason to fire Haley

If Pioli had wanted a placeholder coach he would have kept Herm around.

“Sorry Clark, I know we fired Herm & had to pay him $4 million to go work for ESPN, but I’m gonna have to do it again with Todd. Yeah, I know you still owe him $8 million for the next two seasons, but I really need my pal Charlie in here if we’re ever going to be successful.”

I don’t think so.

Predictions:

Kansas City will not win more than four games in 2009
Kansas City will have a new OC and DC in 2010
Kansas City will win at least seven games in 2010

by jmcgoblue on Dec 1, 2009 1:58 PM CST up reply actions  

You mean except for the fact that he always had highly ranked recruiting classes

and couldn’t perform on the field?

I used to work with an old man that told me. Son, every workplace has a dumbass, if you don't have one where you work, then I'm afraid you're it.

by Warden11 on Dec 1, 2009 7:43 PM CST up reply actions  

As far as the Pollard / Johnson issue

Both are probably better athletes than what we currently have. I would also include Turk and Tank. This makes me think that Haley and his staff were unable to design a system to include them, direct, control or motivate them. Cutting Pollard and Tank really is puzzling because we had no depth at those positions. Why not wait until the off season. It makes Pioli and Haley look stupid and egocentric.

by choirboy on Dec 1, 2009 12:59 PM CST reply actions  

Turk got cut and Tank got traded...

….Great athletes are nice to have but if they can’t or don’t preform at the position then why hang on to them? Pollard got beat out by Mike Brown, I really don’t think Haley would sit him because he gave us a better chance to win than Brown. Pollard wan’t performing, Turk was WAY out of his comfort level in the 3-4 and, to an extent, you could say the same about Tank. Ego or stupidity have nothing to do with those decisions.

Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.

by BigRedChief on Dec 1, 2009 1:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Sebastian Vollmer

I agree – He’s a freaking mountain at LT. If I’m NE, why would you let him go? Wouldn’t you rather trade Matt Light instead of him?

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by craig in calgary on Dec 1, 2009 4:49 PM CST reply actions  

I have a friend who went to High School with him...

or as they say in Germany Gymnasium

This space for rent.

by averagegatsby on Dec 1, 2009 5:46 PM CST up reply actions  

agreed

if anything, Matt Light would be available, as Vollmer takes over

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers

by stagdsp on Dec 1, 2009 8:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Turk and the 3-4

Turk has 19 tackles, 1.5 sacks and a fumble recovery for Detroit. I still dont understand why we did not beef him up to about 295 and see how he fares as a reserve DE. I guess he would have taken Gilberry’s spot. It also seems like we could have at least received 6th round picks for Pollard and Turk.

by T.Fletch on Dec 1, 2009 6:18 PM CST reply actions  

Detroit runs a 4-3

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers

by stagdsp on Dec 1, 2009 8:04 PM CST up reply actions  

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