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Kansas City Chiefs Release Larry Johnson

The Larry Johnson era is over.

The Kansas City Chiefs have officially released embatted seven year veteran RB Larry Johnson.  Per the Mothership:

The Kansas City Chiefs released RB Larry Johnson on Monday. In 75 games (55 starts) with Kansas City, Johnson rushed 1,375 times for 5,996 yards (4.4 avg.) with 55 touchdowns. He also registered 151 receptions for 1,369 yards (9.1 avg.) with six TDs. He concluded his Chiefs career with 30 100-yard rushing games and also added two 100-yard receiving games.

Johnson established an NFL single-season record with 416 rushing attempts in 2006 when he set a franchise single-season mark with 1,789 rushing yards. He originally entered the league as the Chiefs first-round selection (27th overall) in the 2003 NFL Draft out of Penn State.

A first round draft pick in 2003, LJ has certainly had his ups and downs with the organization, including run-ins with all three head coaches during his tenure.

Highlights of LJ's tenure with the Chiefs after the jump.

Star-divide

A few LJ highlights through his seven year career with the Chiefs:

1st round pick in the 2003 NFL draft.  Many fans will remember this because we traded down with the Pittsburgh Steelers.  The Steelers took Troy Polamalu.

LJ was told by Dick Vermeil early in his career that he needs to "take the diapers off", a statement that became very telling throughout his career with the Chiefs.

LJ sprang to life in the last nine games of the 2005 season.  He put up arguably the best half of a season for a running back ever.

He did it again in 2006 with another 1,700+ yards rushing and a NFL record 416 carries.  This would be the last time LJ was effective on a regular basis.

In 2007, he suffered an injury and missed the final nine games of the season - all Chiefs losses.

In 2008, he was deactivated by the Chiefs for several games, and officially suspended by the NFL one game, for another altercation with a woman at a nightclub.

In 2009, he became expendable with a 2.7 yards per carry average and the Twitter incident.

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Good Move By Pioli And Haley

I have just gained an iota of respect for our head coach.

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Fire Haley now.

by UCrawford on Nov 9, 2009 9:34 AM CST reply actions  

For the first time in a LONG time...

I totally agree with you, UCrawford.

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by go_saleaumua on Nov 9, 2009 9:39 AM CST up reply actions  

agreed

there’s a lot of things we should have done over the last 10 years. that’s why we are in such horrible shape.

UCrawford will eventually calm down and realize that Haley isn't a bad coach.

by Leaf on Nov 9, 2009 9:40 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed

Such a long, long saga of horrible drafts.

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Predictions for 2009

Fire Haley now.

by UCrawford on Nov 9, 2009 9:43 AM CST up reply actions  

Still want to fire Haley?

It is a new Era at Arrowhead. I do not yet know if it is one of greatness or one of ineptitude. I am excited to see which way it goes, and will support my team until the end, bitter or sweet!

by KC4Life on Nov 9, 2009 9:44 AM CST up reply actions  

he said he had an iota of respect for him

not have his man child. so my guess whould be yes

UCrawford will eventually calm down and realize that Haley isn't a bad coach.

by Leaf on Nov 9, 2009 9:45 AM CST up reply actions  

I think you gotta give me one more year.

It is a new Era at Arrowhead. I do not yet know if it is one of greatness or one of ineptitude. I am excited to see which way it goes, and will support my team until the end, bitter or sweet!

by KC4Life on Nov 9, 2009 9:47 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh My Yes

An iota of respect has only the effect of a grain of sand in regards to filling the hole Haley has dug for himself here.

But I won’t be quite so vehement about it for a week or two. Maybe. :)

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Fire Haley now.

by UCrawford on Nov 9, 2009 9:47 AM CST up reply actions  

Yes Polamalu would have been great

But that would have meant that we had people who could draft— I haven’t been terribly impressed with our drafts over the recent years

by Ren on Nov 9, 2009 9:41 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

hindsight is 20/20

had anyone known Troy would be who he is, he would have gone in the top 5.

by jmcgoblue on Nov 9, 2009 9:58 AM CST up reply actions  

Apparently Pittsburgh knew.

After all they DID trade with us to get him. And if anyone can scout talent, I’d argue that 6 time world champs know how to draft.

It's years like this that I wish I was a bear. Hibernation would make it so much easier.

by Red N Gold Beast on Nov 9, 2009 10:39 AM CST up reply actions  

100% correct!

If you don't recount the problems and issues of the past you are doomed to repeat them!!!!!!!

by Fan of the Red And Gold on Nov 9, 2009 9:41 AM CST up reply actions  

I think he proved over the last two seasons

that his “greatness” was more a product of an excellent offensive line that opened big holes for him. He is average to below average left to his own talent.

I remember Dawson to Taylor, Kenney to Carson, and Blackledge catching the snap in his facemask. Seen it all...

by BinSC on Nov 9, 2009 9:46 AM CST up reply actions  

+1

Not that Priest wasn’t talented, but I have always believed that him and Larry Johnson achieved their accomplishments because of our offensive line. I could have run behind those guys and put up decent numbers and I am nearly 50 years old!

by Nemoi on Nov 9, 2009 11:00 AM CST up reply actions  

Drafts are tricky things...

whos to say Polamalu would have played for us the way he has played for the steelers. Some players blossom in some organizations and fail in others. There is no way to really know. Johnson was a great prospect. Did you see his college games? He was the headline of some of the greatest conference games in big 10 history.

When he was drafted was confusing because we had a great running back already, but he was thought to be another franchise running back and he was for 2 years. That’s the way it goes sometimes.

He definitely did not fit into the type of offense Haley wanted to run anyways so I doubt he will be missed by much of anyone.

by Lucasjr5 on Nov 9, 2009 10:27 AM CST up reply actions  

and...

if we had polamalu our secondary wouldnt be so bad and we could have won a few games with a few stops thanks to him. amazing how one move can really alter things down the road.

"Larry Fitzgerald, move over because there's another young gun, and his name is Dwayne Bowe from Kansas City" - 2009 Cris Carter Hall of Fame WR

In Pioli We Trust! Right?

by KC Nate on Nov 9, 2009 3:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed

This is the best thing for the Chiefs. And the fanbase can still say Priest is the all time leading Chief’s rusher!

It is a new Era at Arrowhead. I do not yet know if it is one of greatness or one of ineptitude. I am excited to see which way it goes, and will support my team until the end, bitter or sweet!

by KC4Life on Nov 9, 2009 9:43 AM CST up reply actions   2 recs

I wish.......

He won’t be around when we get to pickin a RB……….but the kid is a baller.

by Hail2DaChiefs on Nov 9, 2009 9:41 AM CST up reply actions  

See ya later, Lawrence.

Have a great time in New York or Vegas or whereever the hell you’re going to spend your free time now.

by JacinB on Nov 9, 2009 9:36 AM CST reply actions  

He'll Probably Spend Much Of That Time Wondering

Why Jay-Z will no longer return his phone calls.

I think Larry is about to come to the realization that fame is very fleeting once you’re no longer on a team on Sundays.

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Fire Haley now.

by UCrawford on Nov 9, 2009 9:37 AM CST up reply actions  

Good move...

He is a bum…

Wonder where he ends up…? I don’t see a team picking him up on waivers because of his contract…

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by woodman212 on Nov 9, 2009 9:37 AM CST reply actions  

I Think He Ends Up Nowhere

Nobody likes a pain in the ass who can’t get 3 yards a carry.

I suspect that Johnson’s career is now over. And best of all, Priest Holmes stays leading rusher. Which should piss Johnson off no end…he never could beat Priest. :)

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Fire Haley now.

by UCrawford on Nov 9, 2009 9:39 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I still think someone will pick him up.

Post waivers and for pretty cheap, but someone will.

by NJ Chiefs Fan on Nov 9, 2009 9:41 AM CST up reply actions  

How humbling will that be lol...

…might have to trade in the Maybach

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by woodman212 on Nov 9, 2009 9:42 AM CST up reply actions  

They Didn't Pick Up Shaun Alexander For A Long Time

And he had much less baggage than Johnson does.

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Fire Haley now.

by UCrawford on Nov 9, 2009 9:42 AM CST up reply actions  

Maybe New England since they like these attitude guys

Though it may hit too close to home since LJ basically tortured Pioli and the Chiefs…

Cincy and Oakland are breeding grounds for malcontents…

Cleveland? Hey why not..

by golfbard on Nov 9, 2009 9:51 AM CST up reply actions  

I duno man...

There will have to be somebody interested…They will think they can change him probably…

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by woodman212 on Nov 9, 2009 9:41 AM CST up reply actions  

We play Oakland next

hmmmmmmmmm

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by KCSatchmo on Nov 9, 2009 9:42 AM CST up reply actions  

Always a sucker GM or HC

looking to save their job. He will be playing within a couple of weeks…and they will regret it.

I remember Dawson to Taylor, Kenney to Carson, and Blackledge catching the snap in his facemask. Seen it all...

by BinSC on Nov 9, 2009 9:48 AM CST up reply actions  

If I'm not mistaken

Priest’s little mini-comeback is that difference between who held the overall record. lol

by KCScuba on Nov 9, 2009 10:30 AM CST up reply actions  

Yup

The mini-comeback that caused Johnson no end of frustration. :)

Every day I like Priest a little bit more. :)

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by UCrawford on Nov 9, 2009 10:31 AM CST up reply actions  

Livid

Priest did it in the middle of Johnson’s contract negotiations. Peterson used Priest as leverage to get Johnson to report.

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Fire Haley now.

by UCrawford on Nov 9, 2009 10:32 AM CST up reply actions  

Bummer...

I wonder if Priest liked LJ, honestly.

by Wrestler189s on Nov 9, 2009 10:34 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't read AP near as much as I used to

I wasn’t sure if we’ve already had 3 fansposts about Priest’s mini comeback and the record. Yep, as weird as Priest was at times, I still like him every bit as much. I have 2 chiefs jerseys, Johnson and Priest, I guess one is going to good will.

by KCScuba on Nov 9, 2009 10:45 AM CST up reply actions  

+1

If Larry Johnson wasn’t going to have a bust out season (and stay out of trouble) this year, I was really hoping that Priest would maintain the title. I feel much better that it is held by a player with class.

by Nemoi on Nov 9, 2009 11:05 AM CST up reply actions  

New England

Wouldn’t that be fucked up?

It's years like this that I wish I was a bear. Hibernation would make it so much easier.

by Red N Gold Beast on Nov 9, 2009 10:42 AM CST up reply actions  

Not really

it’s not like it hurts KC in any way if he goes to NE. In fact it guarantees that we don’t have to play against him for the rest of this year & next.

by jmcgoblue on Nov 9, 2009 10:44 AM CST up reply actions  

I Doubt He'll Go There

Belichick will put up with a player only so long as that player’s got enough ability to offset his baggage. 2.7 doesn’t have that anymore.

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Fire Haley now.

by UCrawford on Nov 9, 2009 10:51 AM CST up reply actions  

Randy Moss wasn't exactly setting the world on fire in Oakland

It's years like this that I wish I was a bear. Hibernation would make it so much easier.

by Red N Gold Beast on Nov 9, 2009 11:06 AM CST up reply actions  

Ditto.

Moss was a “problem” in Oakland and is now a “leader” on the Patriots. This is a definitely possibility.

by ilamuku on Nov 9, 2009 4:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Larry was never as good as Moss, IMO. Moss is one of those rare athletic freaks that can do a lot without trying much.

by bh13 on Nov 9, 2009 10:07 PM CST up reply actions  

It'd do us a favor

Any team that claims him on waivers has to pick up the remaining balance of this year’s salary, which is $2.1 million. Let’s hope someone picks him up on waivers.

by HTrayne on Nov 9, 2009 11:51 AM CST up reply actions  

HIP HIP!

"The first step to penetration... must not be lateral"
-Confucius, in contrary to Glenn Dorsey lining up in the 2-tech

by ArrowSpread on Nov 9, 2009 9:37 AM CST reply actions  

Hooray!

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by woodman212 on Nov 9, 2009 9:37 AM CST up reply actions  

Jorge!

It is a new Era at Arrowhead. I do not yet know if it is one of greatness or one of ineptitude. I am excited to see which way it goes, and will support my team until the end, bitter or sweet!

by KC4Life on Nov 9, 2009 9:42 AM CST up reply actions  

Good work Pioli

I approve, and I’m not buying the argument that now several players will start acting up so they can receive their walking papers too.
Goodbye LJ

by The Other Patrick Allen on Nov 9, 2009 9:37 AM CST reply actions  

hey brother

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by Patrick Allen on Nov 9, 2009 9:45 AM CST up reply actions  

Hey man

I was wondering where you were. No more LJ baby!

by The Other Patrick Allen on Nov 9, 2009 9:47 AM CST up reply actions  

Haley

better start winning some games or we go after him next

by The_New_KC_Chiefs on Nov 9, 2009 9:38 AM CST reply actions  

About time!

Thanks for the 2 good years, but your a CANCER to the NFL. Go destroy someone elses locker room and image!! The FIRST step in the RIGHT direction. APPROVE +1000000 Pioli

by Coady on Nov 9, 2009 9:38 AM CST reply actions  

Waivers

It’ll be interesting to see what teams will be interested in him. Schefter on ESPN said that he will most likely clear waives because of his contract and will thus become a free agent.

by zbschiefs on Nov 9, 2009 9:39 AM CST reply actions  

where's kcbh when you need him...

This is a move that should have come a long time ago.

by Kristospherein on Nov 9, 2009 9:41 AM CST reply actions  

He is cleanin out his locker....

:)

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by woodman212 on Nov 9, 2009 9:42 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Yup

He’ll be appealing to AP’s league commish (Chris) for reinstatement if he wants to come back to AP.

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Fire Haley now.

by UCrawford on Nov 9, 2009 10:32 AM CST up reply actions  

Lame

He wasn’t rude or abrasive, he just disagreed with the criticism of LJ. Is this turning onto some “agree with me or your gone” fascist bullshit?

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by HIV 2 Elway on Nov 9, 2009 10:52 AM CST up reply actions  

He Got Warned By Another Moderator For Trolling

But he posted a comment regarding how he hoped Johnson came back with the Broncos to burn the Chiefs that was completely out of line. We won’t be having that here.

If Chris or Joel decides he’s worth reinstating, he can come back.

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Fire Haley now.

by UCrawford on Nov 9, 2009 10:54 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

It was clearly trolling....

Constantly posting things that will cause outrage in others (and for that purpose)….Being so loyal (or whatever) to a player OVER the team this site is dedicated to that you would hope he goes to a division rival and defeat said team. This is unacceptable behavior. It goes beyond free speech and to the point of interfering with others…

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by woodman212 on Nov 9, 2009 11:00 AM CST up reply actions  

Free Speech

Doesn’t really factor into it. Free speech is about the government’s ability to infringe on what you’re saying. AP is “owned” by Chris and SB Nation. They have a right to dictate content on their own site (hence the AP Community Rules). The moderators felt that kcbh violated those rules so he got warned, he persisted, then he got banned.

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Fire Haley now.

by UCrawford on Nov 9, 2009 11:02 AM CST up reply actions  

LJ

He was chasing a Chief’s All time record in a rushing category this year. Anybody remember what it was or if he passed it? Cause I think he was short! Rushing yards?

by DuctTapeMessiah on Nov 9, 2009 9:43 AM CST reply actions  

Wrecked!

It is a new Era at Arrowhead. I do not yet know if it is one of greatness or one of ineptitude. I am excited to see which way it goes, and will support my team until the end, bitter or sweet!

by KC4Life on Nov 9, 2009 9:46 AM CST up reply actions  

Ok time to focus on a S and Oline

Berry or Okung and fill in the gaps making sure Goff is gone by 2010

by Ren on Nov 9, 2009 9:43 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

Let's See

Houston, San Diego, Washington, Seattle.

That’s all I can think of off the top of my head.

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Fire Haley now.

by UCrawford on Nov 9, 2009 9:45 AM CST up reply actions  

Somebody will take him

Somebody always does.

John

"Gentlemen! You can't fight in here. This is the War Room!"

by RDOGuy on Nov 9, 2009 9:46 AM CST up reply actions  

Right

I agree.

John

"Gentlemen! You can't fight in here. This is the War Room!"

by RDOGuy on Nov 9, 2009 9:47 AM CST up reply actions  

He does

have a little left if someone has a line to open some huge holes but it is still good riddance for our situation.

by ttownmikey on Nov 9, 2009 9:47 AM CST up reply actions  

None Of Those Teams I Named

Have good offensive lines. I don’t think anyone will see him as either a good fit or a worthy gamble.

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by UCrawford on Nov 9, 2009 9:49 AM CST up reply actions  

If thats the case

we should have hit them up before the trade deadline! :)

by ttownmikey on Nov 9, 2009 9:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Waivers

On the very unlikely chance he is claimed off of waivers, would that mean that the Chiefs would not be responsible for the money due to him in his contract for the year? Just curious to know how it works.

by zbschiefs on Nov 9, 2009 9:51 AM CST up reply actions  

If he is claimed off of waivers then the new team pays

I think that’s how it works. The Chiefs are fully relieved.

by Ren on Nov 9, 2009 9:54 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I am a little confused too but

I am pretty sure you are correct. Since we picked up Chris Chambers, the Chargers don’t have to pay him whatever his contract is anymore….now the Chiefs do. So i think the LJ situation is the same.

by Wrestler189s on Nov 9, 2009 9:55 AM CST up reply actions  

But if he clears

waivers, don’t we still have to pay him the remainder of his contract for this year & he can sign a new contract with whomever for the rest of the year?

by ttownmikey on Nov 9, 2009 9:58 AM CST up reply actions  

Yes

But it’s still worth it to get rid of him.

I suspect that the Chiefs will be filing a grievance, however, to try and negate what they can of his contract.

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Fire Haley now.

by UCrawford on Nov 9, 2009 9:58 AM CST up reply actions  

I see what you're saying...

but league history is full of examples where a guy was a problem or ineffective on one team, but did better on another. I think somebody will give him a try. With the right team, he could still contribute.

And let’s not forget… Johnson has not been much of a baby when he’s been contributing. The trouble with the law is another matter… but that wasn’t the cause of the latest drama. You could make an argument he’s gotten past that.

John

"Gentlemen! You can't fight in here. This is the War Room!"

by RDOGuy on Nov 9, 2009 9:52 AM CST up reply actions  

Well, this gives him more time to beat on women!

J/K

It was only a matter of time…thanks for the few good years Larry, key word is few. No more distractions!!

by ChiefFan4Life on Nov 9, 2009 9:43 AM CST reply actions  

hmmmmmm
Some have speculated that the Patriots would sign him. One league source has predicted to us, however, that coach Bill Belichick would not be interested.

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by woodman212 on Nov 9, 2009 9:45 AM CST reply actions  

-PFT

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by woodman212 on Nov 9, 2009 9:45 AM CST up reply actions  

Thank god...

now we can finally get over this whole situation.

by Wrestler189s on Nov 9, 2009 9:45 AM CST reply actions  

wow!!!!

I was starting to wonder if they’d do it…

but, I like the move. gotta move forward

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Nov 9, 2009 9:45 AM CST reply actions  

obviously they planned this all along

supsend him for a bit so he losses some money then cut his ass.

UCrawford will eventually calm down and realize that Haley isn't a bad coach.

by Leaf on Nov 9, 2009 9:47 AM CST up reply actions  

yep

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Nov 9, 2009 9:48 AM CST up reply actions  

I hope he winds up on ...

Casey Printers CFL team. If anyone can make chicken salad out of Larry’s non-run game, Printers can.

by JacinB on Nov 9, 2009 9:47 AM CST up reply actions  

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Larry Johnson would run wild in the CFL. He’s bigger than all the linebackers.

Johnnie Morton: The Man. The Myth. The Legend.

by craig in calgary on Nov 9, 2009 9:53 AM CST up reply actions  

Let him.

As long as he isn’t in KC, I don’t care.

by JacinB on Nov 9, 2009 10:00 AM CST up reply actions  

Now I'm waiting for all of the LJ defenders to come out of the woodwork.

They’ll call him “the next Ced Benson,” and talk about how he got hated on in KC. “No one understood Larry Johnson,” they’ll say. And they’ve got a point on the second half of that.

But the first? The next Ced Benson? Unless Larry can run into a Midas and get some new tread for those tires, I don’t see him sniffing an NFL starting job (hell, an NFL job period) again.

LJ defenders? Where you at?

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by go_saleaumua on Nov 9, 2009 9:47 AM CST reply actions  

Hey Now

No rabble-rousing.

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by UCrawford on Nov 9, 2009 9:49 AM CST up reply actions  

At Least Not Against Other AP Commentators

Just be happy that Johnson is gone…I am.

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Fire Haley now.

by UCrawford on Nov 9, 2009 9:50 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm not looking to rabble-rouse...I'm genuinely surprised that there's a lack of LJ defenders out this morning.

Every other time this subject’s been broached, the comments have always been about 70/30 or so…I have a lot of respect for the people who support Larry. I just don’t agree with them.

"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"

-Marty Schottenheimer

by go_saleaumua on Nov 9, 2009 9:55 AM CST up reply actions  

Fair Enough

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by UCrawford on Nov 9, 2009 9:59 AM CST up reply actions  

I think people are Chiefs fans first

And thought, when on the Chiefs, LJ could help them. Now that he’s gone, I don’t think many people care.

by Joel Thorman on Nov 9, 2009 10:01 AM CST up reply actions  

Indeed.

"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"

-Marty Schottenheimer

by go_saleaumua on Nov 9, 2009 10:16 AM CST up reply actions  

Well, we know how the history goes

Ex-Chiefs tend to go on to play on successful teams. Lawrence Tynes, Kawika Mitchell and Scott Fujita come to mind. Oh, and Pollard had a 9 tackle, 3 assist, 2 INT game against his division rival Colts yesterday.

It's years like this that I wish I was a bear. Hibernation would make it so much easier.

by Red N Gold Beast on Nov 9, 2009 10:58 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

The Difference Being

That those guys got cut when they were young for their position so they had years ahead of them. Johnson didn’t…he was a beat up RB who was getting terrible ypc who was near the end of the universal life of a RB.

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by UCrawford on Nov 9, 2009 11:00 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh, I'm aware of the difference.

And don’t get me wrong, I’m glad LJ is gone and was a supporter of cutting him for the last 3 weeks. But we’ll see what happens when he’s put behind even a decent OL.

It's years like this that I wish I was a bear. Hibernation would make it so much easier.

by Red N Gold Beast on Nov 9, 2009 11:03 AM CST up reply actions  

Won't happen

Teams with decent o lines are probably happy with their RBs production.

by dethrat on Nov 9, 2009 11:04 AM CST up reply actions  

Out Of All The Teams That Need RB Help

I can’t think of any that have a decent o-line.

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Fire Haley now.

by UCrawford on Nov 9, 2009 11:04 AM CST up reply actions  

Those kind of go hand in hand!

If they have a good o-line, they have a good RB whether he truly is or not! At least that’s what I seem to remember from back when we had a good line.

by ttownmikey on Nov 9, 2009 11:09 AM CST up reply actions  

One of the things we're going to find out

is whether part of LJ’s problem was that he couldn’t adjust to the zone blocking scheme now used by the Chiefs. My personal belief (as expressed in a post a couple of weeks ago) is that he isn’t well suited for it.

So it might not so much a question of finding a team with an outstanding OL, but rather one that suits LJ’s style. In other words… it might be that LJ could be productive behind even a mediocre line… as long as it uses a man blocking scheme – and therefore doesn’t require the RB to have vision, be patient for holes to develop… and so on.

John

"Gentlemen! You can't fight in here. This is the War Room!"

by RDOGuy on Nov 9, 2009 1:21 PM CST up reply actions  

wrecktastic

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Nov 9, 2009 9:48 AM CST up reply actions  

Yup

He should have been gone before the season started.

I may have been wrong on my Larry Johnson predictions…but now I’m betting that most of you wish I weren’t. :)

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Fire Haley now.

by UCrawford on Nov 9, 2009 9:50 AM CST up reply actions  

+1

Winning begins with Attitude - Haley and Pioli will be winners in KC!

I'll forever be a Chiefs fan! Only God himself could take that away from me, but when I get to my great reward, I'll rejoin two bigger fans, my Mom and Dad.

by Lanier63 on Nov 9, 2009 10:00 AM CST up reply actions  

You think they will bring Jackie Battle back?

or do we not need him because of Kolby?

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by Patrick Allen on Nov 9, 2009 9:49 AM CST reply actions  

agreed

these guys give the Chiefs a good chance for the rest of the year

then, bring up Javarris or draft someone if help is needed

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Nov 9, 2009 9:51 AM CST up reply actions  

Maybe Not "Fine"

But we’re in no worse shape with those three than we were with Johnson. And it’s about time that all three of them got a real shot at the starting job. Without Johnson taking away snaps now they can get their shot.

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by UCrawford on Nov 9, 2009 9:52 AM CST up reply actions  

I think a back like Charles is good for us now

He looked pretty good yesterday. The most important thing I saw was him making guys miss and then gaining a few more yards which is just huge for this offense right now.

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by Patrick Allen on Nov 9, 2009 9:54 AM CST up reply actions  

Savage did that too...

and so did Kolby! Shit, we are fineeeeeee. lol

by Wrestler189s on Nov 9, 2009 9:56 AM CST up reply actions  

He was also blocking...

Something I didn’t know a Chiefs running back was capable of thanks to LJ.

by RA_ChiefsFan on Nov 9, 2009 10:00 AM CST up reply actions  

he's on IR

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Nov 9, 2009 9:50 AM CST up reply actions  

ah yes forgot

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by Patrick Allen on Nov 9, 2009 9:55 AM CST up reply actions  

It’s a good move for the LJ.

Now he can go play for a real football team.

by kcbh on Nov 9, 2009 9:50 AM CST reply actions  

A Real Football Team

Doesn’t give a damn about a RB who gets 2.7 yards per carry.

That’s below replacement level performance.

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by UCrawford on Nov 9, 2009 9:51 AM CST up reply actions  

So are you a Chiefs fan or a Johnson fan?

I dont get it….

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by woodman212 on Nov 9, 2009 9:52 AM CST up reply actions  

The Chiefs ARE...

and always WILL be a real football team!

No one ever says, "It's only a game" when their team is winning.
George Carlin-R.I.P.

by idahochieffan on Nov 9, 2009 9:52 AM CST up reply actions  

seriously, kcbh

you don’t sound like a Chiefs fan at all

with all due respect, maybe you should find a “real football team” to blog about

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Nov 9, 2009 9:53 AM CST up reply actions  

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by Patrick Allen on Nov 9, 2009 9:55 AM CST up reply actions  

Actually this may be more accurate.

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by Patrick Allen on Nov 9, 2009 9:57 AM CST up reply actions  

HAHAHAH

i saw the first picture and was like wth is that? Lol.

by Wrestler189s on Nov 9, 2009 9:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Hey.

Shouldn’t you be cleaning out your locker and booking a flight to New York?

by JacinB on Nov 9, 2009 9:55 AM CST up reply actions  

The release of LJ changes

nothing to the success of this team. We still can’t rush or the coaches don’t want our players to rush.

by ilamuku on Nov 9, 2009 4:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Uh …. ok.

How many games has this team won in the last 4 years.

by kcbh on Nov 9, 2009 9:52 AM CST reply actions  

What, You Mean With Johnson In The Lineup?

Probably not too many more than they’ll win without Johnson in the lineup.

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Fire Haley now.

by UCrawford on Nov 9, 2009 9:53 AM CST up reply actions  

go root for the raiders where real non fans are

by 67401erk on Nov 9, 2009 9:58 AM CST up reply actions  

So when the

Patriots went 1-15, 6-10, 2-14, then 5-11…That means they aren’t a real football team either?
Every team has its slumps. Honestly, if you don’t ever have a slump you aren’t a real football team because you have never gone through bad times before.

by Wrestler189s on Nov 9, 2009 10:01 AM CST up reply actions  

Great now we can lose and run the rock 10 times a game.

by kcbh on Nov 9, 2009 9:53 AM CST reply actions  

10 times for 50 yards

is better than 25 times for 68 yards.

Hopefully this shows up as a reply to kcbh

by The Other Patrick Allen on Nov 9, 2009 9:56 AM CST up reply actions  

If Johnson Got The Rock 10 Times

We’d have 27 yards.

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

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Fire Haley now.

by UCrawford on Nov 9, 2009 9:56 AM CST up reply actions  

really?

there are chiefs fans that were chiefs fans because of larry johnson? That’s pretty sad…. like that guy who follows Favre to every franchise then camps out at his house every time he retires. Go pick someone who is good next time.

by Lucasjr5 on Nov 9, 2009 10:34 AM CST up reply actions  

What?

Please don’t be happy about that because sad in so many ways.

by kcbh on Nov 9, 2009 9:56 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah.

5.0 yards per carry is so much worse that 2.6 yards per carry.

We’re gonna suck now.

by JacinB on Nov 9, 2009 9:57 AM CST up reply actions  

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by Patrick Allen on Nov 9, 2009 9:58 AM CST up reply actions  

What?

You’re saying that a RB who gets 2.7 yards per carry is better than a RB who gets 5?

Sorry dude, but that’s a pretty indefensible position. A RB who can’t get at least 3 ypc has no business playing in the NFL.

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Fire Haley now.

by UCrawford on Nov 9, 2009 9:58 AM CST up reply actions  

Let's not feed it

it lives under the bridge and has no real opinion.

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by Patrick Allen on Nov 9, 2009 10:00 AM CST up reply actions  

Let’s see if I got this right, you compare one player who runs the rock 6 times in a game to a player who runs it 25 times.

by kcbh on Nov 9, 2009 10:01 AM CST up reply actions  

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by Patrick Allen on Nov 9, 2009 10:02 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Funny Thing Is

A player who gets the rock 6 times per game and gets 5 yards per carry isn’t really less valuable than a player who gets the rock 25 times in a game and gets 2.7 ypc…and no touchdowns…and who whines on Twitter when people point out (accurately) that he sucks.

He never did take the diaper off.

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Fire Haley now.

by UCrawford on Nov 9, 2009 10:03 AM CST up reply actions  

Yep. Let's compare.

25 × 2.7ypc = 67 yards.

6 × 5 ypc = 30 yards.

Give that guy who only “runs the rock” 6 times the ball 13 times, and we’ve picked up as many yards as LJ gains the entire game in 12 less plays.

That’s 12 less times where someone runs into the back of a lineman and falls down, or gets tackled behind the line of scrimmage, or can’t find a hole.

That’s 12 less times a drive gets killed because our running game can’t move the ball.

That’s 12 more opportunities to make another play and move the chains.

I’m good with that.

by JacinB on Nov 9, 2009 10:10 AM CST up reply actions  

Most Basic Of Math

Your explanation is so Occam’s Razor-ish that it can’t help but be correct. :)

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Fire Haley now.

by UCrawford on Nov 9, 2009 10:16 AM CST up reply actions  

Neither cut should have been a suprise

Engram and LJ were obviously going to be the subtractions after the additions. I called it in an e-mail to Joel on Friday.

by JohnNdallas on Nov 9, 2009 9:55 AM CST reply actions  

Pictures.

Or it didn’t happen. :)

by JacinB on Nov 9, 2009 9:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Cut your nose to spite your face.

"What?!?! I aint no Obama for the weed!"
-Turk McBride

by HIV 2 Elway on Nov 9, 2009 9:55 AM CST reply actions  

lj needs to go to buffalo where all cry babys got to bitch about there team

by 67401erk on Nov 9, 2009 9:56 AM CST reply actions  

haha

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by Patrick Allen on Nov 9, 2009 9:58 AM CST up reply actions  

100 bucks says LJ is already in Vegas poppin the Dom

he doesn’t care about anyone but LJ

good riddance

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Nov 9, 2009 9:57 AM CST reply actions  

I feel like we WON yesterday

when I read this news. Good luck to you, LeRoy. You caused me to not like my favorite team very much over the last few years. A breath of fresh air, that’s what it is. All of a sudden, it doesn’t smell like the stench of losing. It smells like we’re turning the corner. Or smells like teen spirit. I dont know which.

by Ozarks on Nov 9, 2009 9:58 AM CST reply actions  

pour out some liquor for my homie

on some chick’s face

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Nov 9, 2009 10:00 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

LOL

I can’t believe I laughed at this.

by Justin Bopp on Nov 9, 2009 10:00 AM CST up reply actions  

yeah, I almost feel guilty for saying it :)

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Nov 9, 2009 10:01 AM CST up reply actions  

Both of you

It's years like this that I wish I was a bear. Hibernation would make it so much easier.

by Red N Gold Beast on Nov 9, 2009 11:31 AM CST up reply actions  

i'd be in the same boat

but i’d belch and feel better.

by TDubb on Nov 9, 2009 2:04 PM CST up reply actions  

You're going to hell.

lol

It's years like this that I wish I was a bear. Hibernation would make it so much easier.

by Red N Gold Beast on Nov 9, 2009 11:31 AM CST up reply actions  

Woooooooooo Hooooooooooooo!

What a great move, now all the rest of the chefs players will know not to screw with the media. They have the power and you had better watch out or you will be next.

CAN YOU HEAR ME BRIAN WATERS?

by kcbh on Nov 9, 2009 9:59 AM CST reply actions  

Glad LJ's gone.

Here’s the (I’m pretty sure this is correct) stat: Since LJ became the starter, the Chiefs have not won a game where he didn’t play.

How long until this changes?

by NJ Chiefs Fan on Nov 9, 2009 10:00 AM CST reply actions  

"Hello? Jay-Z? Hello? Just Wondering If You Got My Last Phone Call."

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by UCrawford on Nov 9, 2009 10:01 AM CST up reply actions  

now he can be a rapper again ans do a song with chris brown

by 67401erk on Nov 9, 2009 10:04 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

now what do i do with my lj jersey i wear and the autographed one hanging on my wall???

No RB will ever pass Priest’s record…especially with Haley calling plays.
So does this keep our roster to an equal 53 now??

Also we will most definately draft a high up rb in the draft…unless maybe they show some faith in who they have and give them some freaking carries.

So long Larry Johnson…from a one time fan of yours…I hope u can straighten up and take some responsibilty and start acting like a role model to the kids.

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Nov 9, 2009 10:00 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

if

and a big if – we draft another DL in the first round. It will Be Suh out of Nebraska. the man is a beast.

by TDubb on Nov 9, 2009 2:06 PM CST up reply actions  

i know that

Just saying…we don’t really have a premier starting back. I like charles and kolby but they have a lot to prove. We will see..

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Nov 9, 2009 10:11 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

He Just Needs To Hold Onto The Ball

If he does that I think he’s proven himself as worthy of no less than a complementary back.

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Fire Haley now.

by UCrawford on Nov 9, 2009 10:15 AM CST up reply actions  

+1

Charles and Smith are not the answer. No running back with be sucsessful until we figure out how to block. We officially have the worst O-line in the league and will not win games until we fix it.

by chiefskingfromcali on Nov 9, 2009 11:19 AM CST up reply actions  

Don't Need To Draft A RB In The First Round

Look at the rookie RBs who’ve done well the last couple of years. LeSean McCoy was a third rounder. Matt Forte was a 2nd. Kevin Smith was 3rd. Ray Rice, Shonn Greene, Steve Slaton…none of them was a first rounder. You can find a top-notch RB in the 2nd or 3rd round.

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Fire Haley now.

by UCrawford on Nov 9, 2009 10:14 AM CST up reply actions  

Unless a once a decade talent like AP comes out, I agree.

But there certainly doesn’t appear to be the second coming of AP in this years draft.
As I type this I remember Darren McFadden was also a “can’t miss”…so I digress

Johnnie Morton: The Man. The Myth. The Legend.

by craig in calgary on Nov 9, 2009 10:16 AM CST up reply actions  

So far perhaps

not even the best from Arkansas that year!

by ttownmikey on Nov 9, 2009 10:18 AM CST up reply actions  

I Think He's Better Than Felix Jones

Jones has an even harder time staying healthy.

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Fire Haley now.

by UCrawford on Nov 9, 2009 10:18 AM CST up reply actions  

I Think McFadden Could Still Be Great

But he needs a league average QB there to take pressure off of him. He’s not going to last long if the Raiders can’t provide that.

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Fire Haley now.

by UCrawford on Nov 9, 2009 10:18 AM CST up reply actions  

AP had injury problems in college

He was a little bit of a risk. Theres always a guy who falls because of that.

by Lucasjr5 on Nov 9, 2009 10:37 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't think there is an AP waiting in the wings in this draft

But who knows. We will see. I think we need to go S and Oline in the 1st 2 picks. My 2c.

by Ren on Nov 9, 2009 11:11 AM CST up reply actions  

Any Chance 32,487

signatures could have helped this decision?

Winning begins with Attitude - Haley and Pioli will be winners in KC!

I'll forever be a Chiefs fan! Only God himself could take that away from me, but when I get to my great reward, I'll rejoin two bigger fans, my Mom and Dad.

by Lanier63 on Nov 9, 2009 10:01 AM CST reply actions  

the decision was already made by that point

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Nov 9, 2009 10:04 AM CST up reply actions  

Didn't hurt though.

Good for Chiefs PR somewhat too. So a lot of fans feel like they listen.

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by woodman212 on Nov 9, 2009 10:05 AM CST up reply actions  

The public backlash did it

They didn’t even need to see the petition. They had a sense of the sheer volume of unrest this city was exhibiting. No need to piss off 99% of your fan base in the midst of a god awful season.

It's years like this that I wish I was a bear. Hibernation would make it so much easier.

by Red N Gold Beast on Nov 9, 2009 11:42 AM CST up reply actions  

oakland can pick himup so that when he gets in trouble he can get the team on tv it the only way they can

by 67401erk on Nov 9, 2009 10:01 AM CST reply actions  

Love the highlights

that they’re showing on 1st Take on ESPN. The 1st one LJ takes the handoff & 1 step & falls down. So indicative of his performance this year!

by ttownmikey on Nov 9, 2009 10:03 AM CST reply actions  

Odds of him ending in New England

Picking up LJ would definitely be a New England type of move.

10/19/09: The Chiefs are on their way to an 11-5 season...I think....
10/26/09: Okay, so it'll be 10-6, I can live with that...

by mushin on Nov 9, 2009 10:04 AM CST reply actions  

BREAKING NEWS

KCBH RELEASED BY ARROWHEAD PRIDE

by Justin Bopp on Nov 9, 2009 10:04 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

Sent to live under a bridge to frighten billy goats

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by Patrick Allen on Nov 9, 2009 10:05 AM CST up reply actions  

ah Mort

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by Patrick Allen on Nov 9, 2009 10:06 AM CST up reply actions  

Captain Obvious Gets It Right More Often Than Mort :)

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Fire Haley now.

by UCrawford on Nov 9, 2009 10:07 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

What is it with Mort?

He used to seem to be on the cutting edge but anymore seems to need to be on the cutting floor!

by ttownmikey on Nov 9, 2009 10:09 AM CST up reply actions  

He Got Tired Of Getting Scooped By Others

So I suspect that now he makes a lot of his stuff up by guesswork rather than research.

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Fire Haley now.

by UCrawford on Nov 9, 2009 10:12 AM CST up reply actions  

It is easier to make crap up...lol

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by woodman212 on Nov 9, 2009 10:15 AM CST up reply actions  

Especially

When your employer doesn’t seem to care if you continually get it wrong.

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Fire Haley now.

by UCrawford on Nov 9, 2009 10:16 AM CST up reply actions  

I wouldn't say that

Why else would espn go after Shefter?

Johnnie Morton: The Man. The Myth. The Legend.

by craig in calgary on Nov 9, 2009 10:19 AM CST up reply actions  

Because He's Younger And He's A Name

Schefter really hasn’t been all that since he left NFLN, by the way. I’m getting this sense that a lot of his sources dried up once he was no longer employed by the NFL’s PR wing.

Except for Shanahan, of course.

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Predictions for 2009

Fire Haley now.

by UCrawford on Nov 9, 2009 10:40 AM CST up reply actions  

Yes I think a lot of what Adam got was because he on NFL Network – Now he has to scramble for info like anyone else

by WarWolf on Nov 9, 2009 7:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Isn't that one of the Ambiguously Gay Duo?

If’ you’re gonna go solo, I guess you go pink

10/19/09: The Chiefs are on their way to an 11-5 season...I think....
10/26/09: Okay, so it'll be 10-6, I can live with that...

by mushin on Nov 9, 2009 10:07 AM CST up reply actions  

I have followed the posting rules for this web site and now I am getting warnings for my posts?

by kcbh on Nov 9, 2009 10:15 AM CST up reply actions  

one underachieving distraction down

One more to go….Bagger Haley.

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Nov 9, 2009 10:14 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

Ba Bye!

Wish Haley would have stuck with the run more yesterday. I stil don’t understand his play calling. Our current roster of RB’s can make plays with their feet unlike LJ. I do believe he will be picked up again after he passes through waivers but love that he will not be the all time Chiefs rushing leader. Pioli never meeses around and is decisive…like it.

by casselreadychiefs on Nov 9, 2009 10:17 AM CST reply actions  

It frees LJ up now....

He can go make his squeaky rap songs with Jay Z.

No one ever says, "It's only a game" when their team is winning.
George Carlin-R.I.P.

by idahochieffan on Nov 9, 2009 10:25 AM CST reply actions  

Ehhhh

We thought maybe for a while…but those are all public photos on the internet…and he tried a little too hard to make it seem like he was…

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by woodman212 on Nov 9, 2009 10:29 AM CST up reply actions  

Glad to see it

He didn’t deserve to put on that jersey on Sundays anymore. Thank goodness I don’t have to support a chiefs team with him at running back any longer.

by u2nspenserfan on Nov 9, 2009 10:27 AM CST reply actions  

The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the one

LJ has long been only about himself. Time and time again I’ve felt he’s tried to convey that he’s above the rest of the squad.

Sure, he had some very impressive games/years, but to let that get to your head is just poor sportsmanship. I’m glad we gave him multiple chances professionally and personally.

No one can argue that he didn’t have an opportunity numerous times to make himself better on the street, on the field and in the locker-room.

Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."

"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.

by THE_TRUTH on Nov 9, 2009 10:27 AM CST reply actions  

And two front offices!

In hindsight, Pioli should have cut him this summer but he was given one last chance & he fell down!

by ttownmikey on Nov 9, 2009 10:34 AM CST up reply actions  

Yep. I thought it rather magnanimous of Pioli and Haley to have "wiped the slate clean" with him.

They even tried to give him time to prove himself. Epic fail on LJ’s part.

Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...

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by oldchiefsfan on Nov 9, 2009 10:38 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm just glad it's over

the idea of “one feature back” is pretty much obsolete in today’s NFL

by reedeasy on Nov 9, 2009 10:30 AM CST reply actions  

Even AP isn't an everydown back

Chester Taylor comes in for most 3rd downs.

Johnnie Morton: The Man. The Myth. The Legend.

by craig in calgary on Nov 9, 2009 10:36 AM CST up reply actions  

yes

because there are a lot of 2nd and 82 where an 80 yd run would still be 3rd down

by KCScuba on Nov 9, 2009 10:42 AM CST up reply actions  

Actually, It's Age 31

About half of RBs decline after 30. The rest fall apart after their age 31 season (meaning either they get their carries cut or their production per carry plummets). Only RB to buck that trend was Walter Payton (full complement of carries, over 4 ypc). And he fell apart after his age 32 season.

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Predictions for 2009

Fire Haley now.

by UCrawford on Nov 9, 2009 10:47 AM CST up reply actions  

You're Good

The press always says “age 30” because they like round numbers. But it’s really 31 that’s the universal drop-off point.

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Fire Haley now.

by UCrawford on Nov 9, 2009 11:03 AM CST up reply actions  

its 3rd and 82...

Favre in the shotgun, heres the snap, and its a shotgun draw! Adrian Peterson weaving in and out of tackles is dropped after a gain of 83 yards for the first down!

by Lucasjr5 on Nov 9, 2009 11:06 AM CST up reply actions  

Hasn't been a good day for LJ.

He got cut by the Chiefs and (if he is kcbh) he just got cut by UCrawford!

by G.L. on Nov 9, 2009 10:30 AM CST reply actions  

thats why

They have a thing called predraft interviews. Cp obviously passed on those with lj.

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Nov 9, 2009 10:32 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

Glad he's gone

I’ve been saying it for a while but… I don’t agree with everyone saying to get rid of him just to keep him out of our record books. To me that is pretty pathetic. It says that we have no confidence in the organization, or the the Chiefs themselves have no confidence in their ability to develop another great rusher/running game. I would rather say let that big baby own the record, it shouldn’t last long…

Sackoff (McIntosh,Goff) like Brangelina.

by DaChefs on Nov 9, 2009 10:33 AM CST reply actions  

LJ

breaking news: the kansas city chiefs just cured cancer

by jd2009 on Nov 9, 2009 10:34 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

Now I Finally Get to Stop Chastising Parents at Arrowhead

For allowing their little ones to wear LJ Thug jerseys!
Next home game against the Steelers will be a breath of fresh air at ArrowHead!

by RedZoneMan on Nov 9, 2009 10:38 AM CST reply actions  

and...

probably a harsh dose of reality….

Hope you have a great time though! :-)

by Lucasjr5 on Nov 9, 2009 10:42 AM CST up reply actions  

So now where

does all of our frustration get pointed? LJ made himself a VERY easy target the last couple of weeks. Now that he is gone, who is going to draw the ire of the fanbase?

by dethrat on Nov 9, 2009 10:42 AM CST reply actions  

I BLAME KC WOLF!!!!

Sackoff (McIntosh,Goff) like Brangelina.

by DaChefs on Nov 9, 2009 10:43 AM CST up reply actions  

Hey !

KC Wolf is our best tackler !

Not his fault !

by WarWolf on Nov 9, 2009 7:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Mike Cox

This is my signature line. It is full of awesome and win.

by KCSatchmo on Nov 9, 2009 10:43 AM CST up reply actions  

Haley

Now that Johnson’s no longer the obvious lightning rod for the team’s suckiness, Haley’s the guy who seems most likely to make himself a target.

Whitlock made a good point…Johnson’s idiocy took up a lot of attention.

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Fire Haley now.

by UCrawford on Nov 9, 2009 10:45 AM CST up reply actions  

why then

wouldn’t they want the distraction to continue?

by reedeasy on Nov 9, 2009 10:47 AM CST up reply actions  

Because He Stepped Over The Line With The Criticism

When you question the coach’s worthiness to even have the job seven games into the guy’s tenure, that’s a direct challenge to the legitimacy of his authority. There aren’t very many players who are good enough to get away with doing that…and 2.7 certainly wasn’t one of them.

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Predictions for 2009

Fire Haley now.

by UCrawford on Nov 9, 2009 10:49 AM CST up reply actions  

That Was Good

Thank The Truth for that one. :) I shall henceforth be using it to describe the player formerly known as Larry Johnson. I’ve refused to use the LJ nickname forever because I think it shows endearment to a player who deserves none…but it was a pain to continually type his full name.

So 2.7 it is. :) (Thanks again, Truth).

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by UCrawford on Nov 9, 2009 10:52 AM CST up reply actions  

kind of ironic

2.7
27
????

"There are few secrets in football. So execute." ~Coach Stram
"I think it's the fans. The place is crazy. It's a good crazy, if you're Kansas City." ~Coach Schottenheimer

by Bad Medicine on Nov 9, 2009 10:54 AM CST up reply actions  

I Know

I was so jealous that I didn’t think of it before Truth did.

Damn him. :)

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by UCrawford on Nov 9, 2009 10:55 AM CST up reply actions  

Haha...well I come up with a "few and far" in between

Kinda like 2.7

zzzzzzzzzzzinger again :)

Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."

"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.

by THE_TRUTH on Nov 9, 2009 10:56 AM CST up reply actions  

It's Right Up There With "Sackintosh"

A perfect nickname to describe a bad player’s utter failings at his duties.

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Fire Haley now.

by UCrawford on Nov 9, 2009 10:56 AM CST up reply actions  

and a damn good one at that

"There are few secrets in football. So execute." ~Coach Stram
"I think it's the fans. The place is crazy. It's a good crazy, if you're Kansas City." ~Coach Schottenheimer

by Bad Medicine on Nov 9, 2009 10:58 AM CST up reply actions  

Maybe they

should have changed LJ’s number to a higher # like 45 so he would have ran for 4.5 ypc!! :)

by ttownmikey on Nov 9, 2009 10:54 AM CST up reply actions  

my thought as well

"There are few secrets in football. So execute." ~Coach Stram
"I think it's the fans. The place is crazy. It's a good crazy, if you're Kansas City." ~Coach Schottenheimer

by Bad Medicine on Nov 9, 2009 10:55 AM CST up reply actions  

+1

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Fire Haley now.

by UCrawford on Nov 9, 2009 10:55 AM CST up reply actions  

Haley

probably will get the attention, and I don’t think it will be misplaced. I don’t think he should be fired. I think we should let him finish the season HIS way, and when we still only win two games then maybe Pioli will grow a pair and make Haley hire an OC as well as replace the DC.

by dethrat on Nov 9, 2009 10:51 AM CST up reply actions  

Ummm to a point

I’m really disappointed in the line/Goff. Even tho he didn’t play last weekend, it only showed that even the replacements aren’t capable to at least be competitive.

I will criticize Haley for not running the ball more. 39 passes and I believe running the ball in the low teens is not a balanced approach. The ypc were pretty impressive and I would’ve thought we would have attempted more.

Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."

"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.

by THE_TRUTH on Nov 9, 2009 10:51 AM CST up reply actions  

agree about the line

Haley is still lost on play calling. The pass D for Jacksonville is in the bottom so we should be passing on them. The problem is Haley is to committed to dump passes to the rb and 5 yard slant passes to Long. I really hate the play calling this year. I hope it gets better.

by chiefskingfromcali on Nov 9, 2009 11:28 AM CST up reply actions  

i vote

that we target the cheerleaders. Maybe on some of those big plays we seem to love to give up, they should be stepping out and tripping the opposing player that is streaking down the field.

by dethrat on Nov 9, 2009 10:46 AM CST reply actions  

The Cheerleaders need to trip over....

Mike Cox

This is my signature line. It is full of awesome and win.

by KCSatchmo on Nov 9, 2009 10:47 AM CST up reply actions  

Any happy accident will do

This is my signature line. It is full of awesome and win.

by KCSatchmo on Nov 9, 2009 10:49 AM CST up reply actions  

It's a shame.

If LJ had spent the last two years playing his heart out, he could have been another Priest Holmes. Unfortunately he’s just not a very good person, and if there’s one thing I love about our fans, we scorn bad people on our teams.

It’s good to see that Haley/Pioli aren’t going to play around with off-the-field BS too.

by GonzosDirtyTrailer on Nov 9, 2009 10:54 AM CST reply actions  

Mike Goff doesn't start, LJ gets cut

It’s like Christmas around here! Now we just have to beat the Raiders next week and life will be good.

Feeling "The Love" and "Drinking the Kool AId"

by KCporkchop on Nov 9, 2009 10:55 AM CST reply actions  

+1

Winning begins with Attitude - Haley and Pioli will be winners in KC!

I'll forever be a Chiefs fan! Only God himself could take that away from me, but when I get to my great reward, I'll rejoin two bigger fans, my Mom and Dad.

by Lanier63 on Nov 9, 2009 11:01 AM CST up reply actions  

I love it!!!!

that’s a bell ringer right there, I don’t care who y’are!

by reedeasy on Nov 9, 2009 10:59 AM CST reply actions  

The only downside to this

is that Larry and his agent probably got what they wanted, a first class ticket out.

by BCRavenJHawkfan on Nov 9, 2009 11:00 AM CST reply actions  

He was a good draft pick

We got great value from spending a late first round pick a on a guy who gained almost 6,000 yards for us. The problem was extending his contract after Herm ran him into the ground. That extension was just horrible. If Peterson had been smart enough to cash in on his value after that big year, it would’ve been perfect. Instead, he gave him one of the worst contracts in the league.

Someone will sign him. Probably the Raiders, he was born to be a Raider.

by Offense of the 70s on Nov 9, 2009 11:04 AM CST reply actions  

Agreed On The Contract

But not on the Raiders. Their biggest problem is QB…they’ve already got three RBs (McFadden, Bush, Fargas) who trump 2.7 in talent and production.

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by UCrawford on Nov 9, 2009 11:05 AM CST up reply actions  

Except

for the fact that the raiders have one of the best RB combinations in the NFL. Just no oline to block for them either.

by dethrat on Nov 9, 2009 11:06 AM CST up reply actions  

The Al Davis factor

A rational Raiders team wouldn’t bother with Johnson. But I wouldn’t put anything past Al when it comes to trying to sign “rebels” and trying to do what he thinks would stick it to KC. If he thinks signing Johnson would “pay us back” for Marcus Allen, he might do it.

Which would be fine with me, let Larry sit on the bench wearing silver and black.

But even crazy Al isn’t going to sign him off waivers, no one’s that dumb. But after Johnson clears waivers, you never know what crazy Al might do.

by Offense of the 70s on Nov 9, 2009 11:30 AM CST up reply actions  

LMAO

If ol’ Al Davis holds a grudge for the Marcus Allen thing. Crazy old fart.

It's years like this that I wish I was a bear. Hibernation would make it so much easier.

by Red N Gold Beast on Nov 9, 2009 11:50 AM CST up reply actions  

it sounded crazy to me to at first...

but he may really be a patriot soon… i’ve been reading and some people are saying he would fill some needs…

by Lucasjr5 on Nov 9, 2009 11:08 AM CST up reply actions  

Yep.

The Patsies need someone who can pick up those last two yards (and only those last two yards) after Brady throws to Welker or Moss for 8 yards on 1st and 10.

by JacinB on Nov 9, 2009 11:09 AM CST up reply actions  

NOOOOO

2.7 can’t go to the Patriots!! Because that means Pioli will trade him back KC next year.

by dethrat on Nov 9, 2009 11:10 AM CST up reply actions  

Tony G Didn't Suck Last Year

Johnson did.

In fact, I didn’t see any posters on this site who thought Tony would have a rotten year.

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Fire Haley now.

by UCrawford on Nov 9, 2009 11:15 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah I think we were giving TG a chance to win a championship before he retired

I thought TG would be TG. However, I do not think Atl will go far in the playoffs. He has 3 yrs maximum left and I think that was a good move to get something now rather when he was in complete decline.

by Ren on Nov 9, 2009 11:21 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed

I didn’t love the trade, but I also didn’t think we got ripped off and I could see the logic behind it. If Pioli busts on that pick, however, I’m going to be pissed.

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Predictions for 2009

Fire Haley now.

by UCrawford on Nov 9, 2009 1:00 PM CST up reply actions  

It Would Be A Really Karmic Justice For Us, Though

If the Chiefs got a really good RB with that pick. Maybe Jahvid Best if his draft stock slips this year because of the concussions.

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Predictions for 2009

Fire Haley now.

by UCrawford on Nov 9, 2009 1:01 PM CST up reply actions  

TG and 2.7 are as far apart as you'll find in why they should have left

Simply TG = Hall of Fame Player
             2.7 = Hall of Shame has been

TG never did anything against this team or its fans to deserve mentioning in the same sentence with2.7.

not directed at UC.

Winning begins with Attitude - Haley and Pioli will be winners in KC!

I'll forever be a Chiefs fan! Only God himself could take that away from me, but when I get to my great reward, I'll rejoin two bigger fans, my Mom and Dad.

by Lanier63 on Nov 9, 2009 12:34 PM CST up reply actions  

my point was

that people said TG would leave KC “when hell freezes over”. It had nothing to do with stats or anything like that. I have nothing but love and respect for Tony and I wish him the best wherever he plays. He is a class act in every aspect.

by dethrat on Nov 9, 2009 4:13 PM CST up reply actions  

My LJ Thoughts.

I really like LJ and had a few opportunities to meet him and he was actually really cool. I was a huge fan(as many of us were) when he was running with the chip on his shoulder. You all know you were doing the “Diamond Dance” when he scored.
This was pre-spiting and smacking. I was really upset when he started smacking women around. If he hit the holes as well as he was hitting women then he might of help us.
Its carma, he started being a dick, and he got what he deserved. It was nice to watch him run behind the Vermiel O-line but you get what you deserve.
i know if I talked shit about my boss I would be fired, so welcome to the real world.
Its to bad his dad can’t straighten him out. I believe in 2nd chances and he has had more than that.
My concern is it seems like when every someone leaves the Chiefs they become a stud. Whats up with that.

by chiefskingfromcali on Nov 9, 2009 11:43 AM CST reply actions  

I'm sad to hear that LJ

didn’t learn from his earlier troubles and that he’s gone. Pre-resign of his monster contract, beast. After, an enigma. I will miss his throw-back running style but he became a selfish player. Team is always first.

by ilamuku on Nov 9, 2009 4:13 PM CST reply actions  

Lenny Dawson

Could have ran for 1000 yards behind that offensive line.

by Nick Britt on Nov 9, 2009 4:16 PM CST up reply actions  

What's your point?

Priest is praised and he was running behind that offensive line much longer.

by ilamuku on Nov 9, 2009 4:17 PM CST up reply actions  

55 TDs and 6000 yards …

Wow the good days seem so long ago

How did this all go so wrong ?

2005 and 2006 were a lot of fun – now we all just relieved to see LJ gone.

by WarWolf on Nov 9, 2009 7:21 PM CST reply actions  

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