to understand that Haley has set himself up for failure with this arrogant prick routine? is it going to take Matt cassel coming out and saying that he’s a dick and people have already started tuning him out? or will you just say he’s an overpaid baby….

to be UNDER the COACH~ Im sure some of you all of had bosses that CURSE at you if you do something wrong~ or something that may hurt the company~ or speak up for yourself when you think youre right but the company is wrong!

HE IS PAID to take it like a MAN~ There is no way, nor for, nor manner for a PLAYER to be upset cuz he got cussed at! TELL YA WHAT~ pay me the league MIN. and the coach can CURSE ME to the day I DIE!

sheesh~ what a baby~

I didn’t want to post a whole new thread or anything…. but wanted some fantasy advice if anyone is reading this….

AP is on his bye week so I need to start lesean mccoy against dallas, or Jamaal charles against jax.

then

Jay cutler against ari or eli manning against sd

This is the Pollard play I like.

I started Jamaal! I think he is going to bust it out this week! Not Chris Johnson numbers like he had last time vs Jax, but he will be over a 100 with at LEAST 1 td! Not to mention he can receive and run in the open!

Def Cutler~ his rec KNOX is gonna tear it up this week!

but on another note. That’s how they do it in Fort Wayne!

“You’re not in a locker room with sophomores in high school. You’re dealing with grown men with families.

if haley talked to high school kids like this than it being grown men. grown men are supposed to be able to handle this without taking things personally

i’m in the military and when it comes to jobs that pushes peoples buttons, nothing else in the world comes close to it. i’ve heard plenty of people over the years say that exact thing because of the way they are treated. hell, i was one of them. when i was younger and just coming into the military i use to really get offend by some of the stuff was handled. but when i look back i started to realize that every single one of those people that ever said that were the farthest things from men, including myself. they are always the prideful rebellious type. they are the ones that never follow the rules and then when they get yelled at they get pissed off. they throw a saying around in the military a lot dealing with this “if you want to be treated like a man then act like one.” a man doesn’t talk back to his boss, REGARDLESS of how he’s treated. a man turns the other check. a teenage boy on the other hand fights back.

I liked Pollard, but I have to take issue with his whining. He has to suck it up and be a man. Cursing at someone is fine (if that is your way of getting your point across). Berating someone is not. I seriously doubt Haley or anyone on the coaching staff berate any player. I have been in the Army (as an enlisted Soldier, and now an officer) for over 12 years now. I have taken and given plenty of ass chewings. Whether you made a mistake or not, you can do two things. Take your ass chewing and learn from it, or go whine to your buddies about how your feelings are hurt and you need to change your tampon. Leaders usually have a good reason to yell and cuss. In my case, as a platoon leader in Iraq, I had 30 guys to worry about everyday. I am not a yeller by nature, but when I did yell and cuss people stopped and listened as I was usually yelling about something that was going to save their lives. As a Company Commander, it was 242 Soldiers.

Pollard has to look at things through Haley’s eyes and be a man.

Go Chiefs!

So folks are saying that all Haley does is run around cussing and screaming. Never a civil word, never a calm voice just rant rant rant.

Don’t believe it for a minute. Maybe Haley has his moments and some folks don’t agree with it. Others are totally passive and get no better results. (Herm)

What they need is a good cop to Haley’s bad cop. Most coaches get about 3 years on average, and if you look up at Porkchops stats you’ll see that most new head coaches don’t do well especially when they take over a mess.

There are a lot of people in this world who could use a lot more yellin at !!! The coach can coach however he wants, if the players don’t like it they can play somewhere else. It works out for everybody. I will guarantee you that for every player complaining about it there will be one that responds well to it and likes the style.

Said he only yelled at the guys he trusted the most. Haley should know this. If u don’t know the man don’t curse him…a good coach knows when to bite his tongue. Good coaches coach….don’t cuss him out, explain how he can fix his mistake. Haley needs a good cussing if u ask me!

What if things had worked out differently, and Pollard hadn’t been picked up by Huston, Would have still said this or would he have to stop and think, Maybe I was wrong. The thing is he did get picked up and so far is doing well, will it last? will his ego get in his way? will they see the same guy next season as they got this one? Nobody knows. I’m a firm believer in to get respect you must first give respect, and I have the feeling that what happened here. Pollard was happy with Herm’s coaching style, they worked out as they wanted to and no one was calling him out for mistakes, it was more of a "We’ll get them next time mentality. Then came the head coaching change and suddenly Haley was demanding more from his player and Pollard didn’t like it, Hell He was a starter for this team and under the old ways, meant that he would continue to be the starter.

This thing about treating him like a man, I understand it but I don’t think he does. Being a man sometimes requires that you swallow your pride when someone corrects you and do whatever it takes to fix things. Maturity is not an age thing, At 18 I was married, had a kid on the way and was serving my country. While at the same time “Men” older than I are doing the same crap I was at 17, out at party’s every night working for minimum wage and doing nothing to improve themselves or their lot in life.

To me his statement tells me more about him than it does Haley, I guess because my teen aged son used the exact line with me when he wanted a car but didn’t see the need to get a job. I tried to tell him about the cost involved and all he wanted to hear was that I was not getting him what he wanted, Now a few years have passed and he is starting to understand that in order to get the benefits of being a man you have to earn them and in one way or another pay for them.

People will second guess Pollard’s release from the time it happens long into the future…or until someone comes along that makes us forget about him. There were some things I liked about him and some things I didn’t and this whole thing just added to the dislike side. He is gone and like I said this year he is doing well, the real question is will he be able to continue it. We now know He doesn’t like to be pushed, he can do it by himself, well only time will tell us if he does need to be pushed or if he can push himself. If he doesn’t push himself, then I think he will again find himself released maybe next season or the season after that.

Bravo!

only HC who took a team to 4 straight SBs … and I doubt he often raised his voice, much less curse and rant the way Haley does

a lot of people bash Herm for being a “players coach” but Levy was the epitome of players coach (in fact, during the strike in the 80s he publicly came out on the side of the players, which led to his dismissal from the Chiefs, and to the Chiefs hiring Mackovic)

so before people go off saying how football is something where the HC has to scream and yell and curse and vent … think of Levy and his record and accomplishments … maybe Haley should model himself after Levy instead of Parcells

just a thought