Chiefs Release WR Bobby Engram; RB Kolby Smith to Active Roster
by Chris Thorman on Nov 7, 2009 4:48 PM CST
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PrintAs we've been speculating all day, the Kansas City Chiefs released a player in order to make room for RB Kolby Smith on the 53-man roster. That player is WR Bobby Engram.
Via the mothership:
Engram served as a veteran leader amongst Kansas City’s wide receivers core, but had been a healthy inactive in two of the past three games. Engram’s departure opens the door for Lance Long to receive more playing time as Kansas City’s slot receiver. The arrival of Chris Chambers earlier this week gave the Chiefs eight rostered receivers, the most they had carried under head coach Todd Haley.
Although it may not seem that long ago, Engram was signed by the Chiefs way back on March 17th.
Bobby Engram played in five games for the Chiefs, catching five passes for 61 yards. He's in his 13th year in the NFL, which means his future as an NFL WR is definitely in question.
Here's how the Chiefs' WR stack up now:
- Dwayne Bowe
- Bobby Wade
- Chris Chambers
- Mark Bradley
- Terrance Copper
- Lance Long
- Quinten Lawrence (Practice squad)
H/T to NJ Chiefs Fan.
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Saw this one coming when we picked up Chambers.
I'm officially on the 'Draft Eric Berry' train.
Haley-Crennel 2010.
For some reason
our WR corps looks a lot stronger now than it did a week ago. Still not great but in terms of sheer talent and current ability to produce, I think we’re much better off at WR now than we have been all season.
Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...
what about.........
keeping B.Engram and releasing one of the extra TE we have, IMO that would have been better. We have 4 on the roster dont we?
I suppose this means Chambers has integrated himself into the offense
I’m excited to see what he can do against the Jags.
as expected
and in my opinion, adding wade/chambers…is an improvement, with long as well…this is an improved WR group…
and its always nice to see a guy like Kolby who works hard, is great in the community, and comes back from a major injury…lets hope he hasnt lost any quickness.
Was just thinking about this
I mean, inactive for two games, only five catches….you could see it coming. Best of lucky to Bobby in the future.
I'm afraid his future takes place in a retirement home.
It's years like this that I wish I was a bear. Hibernation would make it so much easier.
by Red N Gold Beast on Nov 7, 2009 7:02 PM CST up reply actions
Definitely a better group than we started with
at the beginning of the season. Lance Long should be a mainstay for this team moving forward.
without sounding like a dick....
I don’t get all the love for lance long….. what makes you say that man??
A lot of teams were drooling over the guy at the beginning of the season because they knew that he was probably going to have to be released because Arizona was like 7 deep with good WRs. He’s a guy who shows a lot of promise to be the prototypical slot guy for any team.
really???
i totally missed that because last I checked every team passed on him in the draft and anyone could have had him as an undrafted free agent…. they guy wasn’t even a star on a pretty bad msu team and now he’s a mainstay??? I just don’t get it
While I would agree calling him a mainstay at this point is a bit much, I think the excitement comes from the guy showing some potential to be a player.
Obviously he still has work to do, but he’s made a couple plays and shows potential. If he could establish himself as a reliable slot guy, that’s one less piece to worry about going forward.
There aren't too many players in the NFL
That were below average college football players… I think it’s a pretty good indication of talent…
There Weren't Too Many NFL Receivers
Who never averaged 10 yards per reception in college.
I don’t see anything about Lance Long that makes me think this guy is a legit NFL player. He might go off and have a big fluke game (ala Timmy Smith) but I doubt he’ll have much of a career.
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Predictions for 2009
Fire Haley now.
i agree dont really get the love for the guy..
hes another scrapper… doesnt have the body so he has to make up for it somehow…
If he had a better body he would have pulled that td pass into his body instead of it getting stuck in his helmet.
I got all the respect in the world for the guy and how hard he works, but its a long (no pun intended) uphill battle if he wants to make it in the NFL.
That being said I am pulling for the guy and hope he turns into Wes Welker just like everyone else does.
I'm in the same boat...
I def. want him to succeed The more weapons the chiefs have, the better, I just don’t get all the love for him…. He hasn’t done any more than engram has done for us…
He Represents An Unknown
And that’s attractive to people because it’s represents hope that the guy doesn’t suck.
Frankly, I don’t think he’s anything special…if he hadn’t formerly played for Haley I doubt he’d even be on an NFL roster.
Moderator - Arrowhead Pride
Predictions for 2009
Fire Haley now.
Not that we didn't like him....
We just didn’t need him, wasnt making a lot of production and we just added BWade CChambers and LLong….it was only a matter of time. I do like the group of WRs we got, improving and looking better.
"Larry Fitzgerald, move over because there's another young gun, and his name is Dwayne Bowe from Kansas City" - 2009 Cris Carter Hall of Fame WR
In Pioli We Trust! Right?
We had too many slot receivers
Wade and Long both should be slot guys. What team needs three slot receivers?
have we lined up 5 wide even once this season?
And if we did I can almost guarantee it was a sack
A man who says he can, and a man who says he can't are both right. Which one are you?
Thank you for the 61 yards bobby
A man who says he can, and a man who says he can't are both right. Which one are you?
what about D. Darling???
Is he still on the roster? Exactly how many zero’s are we carring from week to week?
hes on the team
but hes on IR so hes not on the active roster until next year
A man who says he can, and a man who says he can't are both right. Which one are you?
Well, my Chiefs are here!! I can't believe I can't make the game!!
They come all this way to Fla and I CAN’T go!!!!
So now that Engram is gone, anybody else we need weeded out of the roster?
I know Goff is the popular choice but you can’t just cut your starters
A man who says he can, and a man who says he can't are both right. Which one are you?
Well, LJ obviously
but other than that I’d say it’s gotta be somebody on the OL, that whole unit is fucking strange.
Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...
Of Course You Can Cut Starters...When They Completely Suck And You've Got Someone To Replace Them
Suggested Cuts:
Larry Johnson – replace with Jamaal Charles
Mike Goff – replace with Alleman or Ndukwe or Smith or some waiver scrub (preferably a young one).
Suggested Benchings:
Mike Brown – replace with DaJuan Morgan once McGraw is healthy (I think the kid sucks, but he might conceivably get better whereas Brown won’t)
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Predictions for 2009
Fire Haley now.
For Johnson And Goff
Probably not. They’re no better than waiver scrubs at this point. Actually, Johnson’s probably worse than a lot of guys sitting on other teams’ practice squads right now. 2.7 yards per carry is below replacement level production.
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Predictions for 2009
Fire Haley now.
?????
Was Bobby Engram even on our team????
by casselreadychiefs on Nov 7, 2009 6:08 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Seems like Haley knows WR, were definitely getting better in this area.
remember the receivers we had last year? (Jeff Webb) ’nough said
while in theory we're better....
We still haven’t seen any result that are any different from last year…. even with what most say is a superior WR corp
not sure I'd throw the word "superior" around
but we are a little better imo
A man who says he can, and a man who says he can't are both right. Which one are you?
I actually like the idea of Long and Kolby getting an increased role.
Lance Long will only get better with experience and I’ve always believed that Kolby Smith can be a very effective back in this league if he can avoid injuries.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
I want to see Mark Bradley be like he was last year when he wasn't injured.
He had some nice long catches last year.
Chiefs set an NFL record,most roster changes in 1 season.
by bringbacktheglory on Nov 7, 2009 7:23 PM CST reply actions
Bobby Engram Gone
Well, can’t say as it was unexpected.
Yet another of Pioli’s stellar FA signings bite the dust.
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Predictions for 2009
Fire Haley now.
what, you mean Pioli hasn't built this team into a SB contender YET? I'm shocked ... stunned!
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!
Oh, I Didn't Expect Him To Create A Playoff Team In Year One
But I did expect him to actually be good at recruiting free agents. While it was nice that he didn’t sign a bunch of terrible free agents to long-term contracts (like Carl used to) I think it can be argued that we’ve gotten even less value back from the dregs Pioli’s brought in than we got from what Carl used to sign. The only upside is that we’re not stuck with them for years…but the fact remains that they’re still mainly flops or fringe players.
Engram, Ashley Lelie, Amani Toomer, Mike Brown, Zach Thomas, Mike Goff…and most of those guys were signed before the season started, when we’re supposed to be able to select good free agents. Instead we got a veritable plethora of has-beens and never-wases, combined with an underwhelming draft (only two players of which are regular contributors). So much for Pioli being the brains behind the New England dynasty.
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Predictions for 2009
Fire Haley now.
I wish I could get into the minds of FAs and swing an awesome deal for the cream of the crop...
to come to the dregs of the NFL for a reasonable bargain…
by butchcassidy on Nov 7, 2009 10:25 PM CST up reply actions
Screw Reasonable Bargain
The Chiefs have the cap space to pay…screw this bargain basement garbage. If there’s a top tier free agent out there who fits a need, then pay the man.
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Predictions for 2009
Fire Haley now.
KC isn't exaclty hallmark or the platform many players seek to go to to help build...
welcome to the bottom feeders society. We get what we can with what we have. Damn I wish we’d over paid for a Bart Scott or some other middle of the road FA to come die in KC.
by butchcassidy on Nov 7, 2009 10:28 PM CST up reply actions
Good lord...
So much for Pioli being the brains behind the New England dynasty.
Bit early to say things like that…Im not saying he was. In fact, i dont know anyone who would say he was the mad scientist of it all, just that he played a big part and would have learned how its done from the master in the process. Its not like they paid him millions to play Mahjong all day…
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Offense
Well..we have some new receivers to pass to…that might prove to be something worth watching when we can an O-line that can sustain some QB protection for longer than 1.5 seconds.
Well, well, well
It’s nice to see that we are trying to improve the WR position. Doesn’t really work to well if Cassel is spending all day running for his life with little to no protection, but does anyone notice that the love that Lance Long is getting (I like him to for his potential) is just like the love that Bobby Sippio got a couple of years ago and well….we all know how that story ended
by His Royal Greatness on Nov 8, 2009 8:15 AM CST reply actions
Agreed
If there’s anything that the Long hype reminds me of, it’s the Sippio hype. Quite a few people thinking he’s the second coming of Steve Largent or Cris Carter…so little evidence on the field to back it up.
I mean, the guy’s average ypr in college by year was 5.9, 7.1, and 7.4. That’s not just “not dominant”, that sucks. Combine that with the guy being only a part-time starter and having a career high (in a season) of 177 yards in college and all I see is a scrub.
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Fire Haley now.
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