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Your Week 13 Glass of Kool Aid


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Well, I won't lie to you.  It is a lot harder to come up with a good glass of Kool Aid to serve after taking a beating from a division rival then it was after beating the defending Super Bowl champs.  However, I do have a couple good tidbits for you to feel good about as we move forward.  So without further ado, here is your glass of Kool Aid for week 13.

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  • Glenn Dorsey is not just improving, he is becoming one of the more dominant defensive linemen in the league.  Dorsey currently has 45 tackles on the season.  That is good for 5th in the NFL among all defensive linemen.  He is on pace for 65.5 tackles this season.  For a little perspective, Richard Seymour who is the gold standard for 3-4 defensive linemen has never had more then 57 tackles in one season.  The only thing missing from his game is the sacks.  If those come along he will statistically be one of the elite linemen in the NFL.  Not bad for a guy that "isn't a good fit" for a 3-4 defensive end.
  • During his three games as the starting running back Jamaal Charles has put up numbers that not only make him a legit starting running back, but are as good or better then many of the elite players at that position.  In those three games Charles has put up 330 total yards on 58 touches (not counting kick returns).  That is good for 110 yards per game with an average of about 5.7 yards per touch.  During that same three game span Adrian Peterson has averaged 114.6 yards per game, but at only 4.6 yards per touch.  Steven Jackson has averaged 136 yards per game, also at 4.6 yards per touch.  Maurice Jones-Drew has averaged 113 yards per game at 4.5 yards per touch.  If you include his kick return for a TD, Charles also has more TDs in that span then any of the other three.
  • Finally, when I looked into the stats from Sunday's game I did find some signs of improvement.  Obviously the bottom line is we lost by 29 points and that is only a one point improvement over the first game with SD.  However, if you look at the numbers we did improve in several areas.  In the first game with SD we averaged 3.85 yards per pass attempt.  In the second game it was 5.74.  In the first game we averaged 3.9 yards per rush attempt.  In the second game it was 4.96.  In the first game SD averaged 3.75 yards per rush attempt.  In the second game they averaged 2.76 yards.  The only area we did not improve (surprise, surprise) was in the pass yards per attempt by SD.  We all know that KC has to do something about the pass defense this off season so I won't dwell on that anymore.  What I will stress is that when we went head to head with SD the second time around we averaged almost 2 yards more per pass, 1 yard more per rush, and held them to 1 yard less per carry.  That is progress even in a game as ugly as this one was.

So there you go AP.  It may not be a huge glass this week, but there are still several things we can be excited about as we continue the progress of building a Super Bowl winner.  We have a great young defensive linemen to anchor our defensive line, a RB that is quickly becoming an outright star, and are improving in 3 of the 4 major statistical areas.   Let's hope next week I can serve up a batch of "we just stomped us some Donkeys" Kool Aid.  Until then, stay positive AP!

 

PORKCHOP OUT

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Thanks Porkchop

This glass of Koolaid is kinda hard to swallow, but your right there are still a couple of signs. I’m hoping that we got all of that disastrous play out of our systems this past Sunday and they play straight up good football against the Donkeys.

Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...

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by oldchiefsfan on Dec 1, 2009 12:30 AM CST reply actions  

this particular flavor of Kool aid

is more like cough syrup…..tastes like ass, but is something you need…….

+rec’d

by reedeasy on Dec 1, 2009 12:31 AM CST reply actions  

Thanks needed that

The turn overs make it hard to see much but the fact we had no pass rush and we need upgrade at safety.

David Logue

by dklogue1 on Dec 1, 2009 12:45 AM CST reply actions  

How's this for Kool Aid

If we didn’t play so shitty I’d be concerned about the loss.

If the guys played their balls off and still lost we’d know we just have crappy players.. But we made a lot of mistakes that are very coachable, so in the least you know we have some potential budding for us

Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.

by 808NaNz808 on Dec 1, 2009 1:15 AM CST reply actions  

Hopefully

Jackson will come along as unexpectedly as Dorsey. Dorsey has been a nice surprise this year.

by hayoli on Dec 1, 2009 1:51 AM CST reply actions  

Wow...

Thanks for the perspective on Dorsey and Charles.

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by woodman212 on Dec 1, 2009 3:40 AM CST reply actions  

Dorsey.....

Personally I don’t see what everyone is so surprised about, I’m not. He was the can’t miss prospect of that draft, battled injuries and weight his rookie season and still put up numbers equivalent to some of the greats d-linemens rookie season. Besides showing up grossly overweight to this years training camp, he has never shown at all to be a bust when you looked at the stats or this play. Not sure why everyone has always been so quick to condemn him. Maybe its just ghosts of first round d-linmen’s past (ooh yeah early christmas reference).

by Zimmy on Dec 1, 2009 7:18 AM CST reply actions  

BTW...

keep the koolaid coming, I think we get at least 2 more games this year…..and I said at the first of the year I would be happy with 6-10, so a game short of that isn’t bad, and heck 6-10 isn’t completely out of the question.

OOOOOH YEAH!!!

by Zimmy on Dec 1, 2009 7:19 AM CST up reply actions  

Glenn Dorsey is not just improving, he is becoming one of the more dominant defensive linemen in the league. Dorsey currently has 45 tackles on the season. That is good for 5th in the NFL among all defensive linemen. He is on pace for 65.5 tackles this season. For a little perspective, Richard Seymour who is the gold standard for 3-4 defensive linemen has never had more then 57 tackles in one season. The only thing missing from his game is the sacks. If those come along he will statistically be one of the elite linemen in the NFL. Not bad for a guy that “isn’t a good fit” for a 3-4 defensive end.

Didn’t his scouting report say he’d be a good fit as a DE in a 3-4?

If you only knew...

by IISaiNtII on Dec 1, 2009 7:58 AM CST reply actions  

The entire off season there were people all about trading Dorsey because he “wouldn’t fit in the 3-4.” The same was said about Tamba and he’s having a great year. Every broadcast lately the idiots (they all suck these days) in the booth talk about how the opposing team keys on stopping 91. I think they’ve both proven a lot of people wrong.

If someone asks you if you want extra mayonnaise you have to say yes, cus that's part of it.
-Jared Allen

by JComp11 on Dec 1, 2009 10:48 AM CST up reply actions  

I like the Ecto-Cooler

"What?!?! I aint no Obama for the weed!"
-Turk McBride

by HIV 2 Elway on Dec 1, 2009 8:30 AM CST reply actions  

i miss the slimer box

that was some good neon green sugar juice.

by bansky on Dec 1, 2009 10:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Not from what I heard Saint

Dorsey is about 3-4 inches shorter then the ideal 3-4 DE. I think he is the proto type of a 4-3 DT. There was talk in the off season of the Chiefs running the 3-4 under “hybrid” in which Dorsey would be called a DE but would line up more as an “under” tackle, but I never heard him called a good fit for a 3-4 DE. I think the Chiefs have done a good job of moving him around on different downs.

Feeling "The Love" and "Drinking the Kool AId"

by KCporkchop on Dec 1, 2009 8:31 AM CST reply actions  

Actually

they aren’t moving him around much. He’s pretty much playing a traditional 3-4 end role which is a very pleasant surprise.

I also think you’re missing Flowers praise from your Kool-Aid segments. He’s the best player on D every week. He’s a top 10 CB in the league right now and is improving so rapidly that he’ll soon be considered amonst the elite. He’s overlooked mostly because the rest of teh secondary is such a disaster.

This is my signature line. It is full of awesome and win.

by KCSatchmo on Dec 1, 2009 9:39 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Jesus this has taken forever to track down

I saw it on here not too long ago, but I went outside of AP and found this mock from SI.com that mentions it:

Dorsey’s disruptive style of play would best be used in the 3-4 formation

Yes, I know, the quote is taken out of context.

From the offseason a projection:

Hasn’t really played the position until this year, but based on what he showed last season, he’ll be challenging for the No. 1 ranking by 2010.

and the coup de gras (as far as I’m willing to continue to look and find it anyway):

He projects to work in any defense, but his best position would be as a three technique in the 3-4 defense as he excels when able to operate in space.

If you only knew...

by IISaiNtII on Dec 1, 2009 11:51 AM CST up reply actions  

Ah, from NFL.com

NFL.COM via our very own and beloved AP:

Let’s face it, Dorsey is a good sanitation man (takes out the trash by handling multiple blockers, thus freeing a teammate up to make the play),

I’m not real certain about what 3-4 DT’s do, but I was under the impression that they suck up linemen to allow LB’s to get into the backfield. Seems like it’s a good fit to me, no?

If you only knew...

by IISaiNtII on Dec 1, 2009 11:55 AM CST up reply actions  

No...

Since he’s listed as an end, he’ll be competing with the sack-happy 4-3 Ends. And it’d be a long shot for him to make the Pro Bowl…

by Dono on Dec 2, 2009 7:49 AM CST up reply actions  

Good stuff as usual

But it’s more like a Dixie Cup of Kool Aid this week.

This is my signature line. It is full of awesome and win.

by KCSatchmo on Dec 1, 2009 9:34 AM CST reply actions  

Other than the painfully obvious miscues...

The passing offense seemed to be much better this last week. Take away the turnovers and the Chiefs would have still been in that game. Defense looked like it took about 5 steps backwards though.

by Chiefsfan1970 on Dec 1, 2009 10:14 AM CST reply actions  

it was absolutely the turnovers

caused 28pts… they lost by 29

other than that, they looked OK

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers

by stagdsp on Dec 1, 2009 1:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Although I am on record this week as saying the Chiefs just aren't very good

I have to agree that Porkchop is finding some silver linings.

Let me add another. Despite all their other problems – which, in total, add up to not being a very good team right now – the Chiefs have been pretty darned good in taking care of the ball. Obviously they didn’t against the Chargers, but if they’d been better – which is no pipe dream, because they’ve demonstrated this season that they can be – they would have been very competitive in this game.

The Chargers got three touchdowns from turnovers. That’s 21 points – a really big chunk of the margin in this game. I’m not going to suggest that the Chiefs would have scored touchdowns on all those drives – they probably wouldn’t have – but Porkchop is right: they were moving the ball better than they did in the first meeting with San Diego, and it’s not unreasonable to think they could have gotten one.

I know… without those turnovers, the whole flow of the game would have changed, and the Chargers might have gotten one or two of those touchdowns anyway. However… it is true that if the Chiefs had been as good about preventing turnovers in this game as they have been in other games this season, the result would have been far different. It probably would have been a loss anyway – the Chargers are simply a better team – but it wouldn’t have so hard to swallow.

John

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by RDOGuy on Dec 1, 2009 11:05 AM CST reply actions  

Kool-Aid is Patriotic

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by Sudden on Dec 1, 2009 11:42 AM CST reply actions  

Ol Ben is throwing down the pick up lines on tubby

Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.

by 808NaNz808 on Dec 1, 2009 12:02 PM CST up reply actions  

RDO...I agree

If the turnovers had not occurred as early as they did, I think the game would have gone much differently. If the Chiefs can limit these kinds of mistakes, they will learn how to beat some of these better teams. I think if the Chiefs could have hung around through the first half being down no more than one score, they could have come back to win it at the end. A team like the Chargers tends to get frustrated when you hang around on them. Especially Philip Rivers. We saw it twice last year.

Tough to watch our boys get beat down by a division rival. Hopefully we can bounce back this Sunday.

by Chiefsfan1970 on Dec 1, 2009 12:12 PM CST reply actions  

agreed.

rivers is just a little whiny c u next tuesday. I think if they could have gotten pressure on him it would have gone a lot differently

If you only knew...

by IISaiNtII on Dec 1, 2009 12:14 PM CST up reply actions  

So with 7 games left

Charles is on pace to be a 1,000 yard rusher! There’s something to root for!

"The way this works is you string together some good games, some good practices and you get momentum and you gain confidence," linebacker Mike Vrabel said. "It can be a real positive for your team. It builds on itself."

by cpa913 on Dec 1, 2009 1:52 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

Thanks for the glass of Kool Aid.

I needed that. I hope Charles gets a lot of yardage and that Glenn can get some sacks eventually.

When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.

by NJChieffan16 on Dec 1, 2009 9:47 PM CST reply actions  

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