..but HELL NO!

Matt Cassel’s contract.

Not that Croyle deserves to start anyway considering he’s still never won a single game…something Matt Cassel was able to pull off in his first year here.

i hope this isnt a sign of the future! Also if the line keeps playing the way they are then Croyle might just end up finishing the year! Poor Cassel, but the Jags dont have a very dominant pass rush so we should see something this weekend out of Cassel and Bowe.

The Brody can come in and get destroyed. Then we can get a look at Gut until Cassel is healthy agian.

I will give you one reason why not… Benching Cassel in favor of Croyle prevents Cassel from developing that special bond that great QB’s and their receivers have.

“Starting Brodie Croyle would help out Larry or whoever is the starting quarterback because he runs beautiful Boot legs and Play Action passes.”

dudem wtf are you talking about? Larry as what? and Brodie might be the best at the Play Action since Steve DeBerg, but until we get an actual, you know, RUNNING GAME, no defense will bite on a play action

as for "Starting Brodie Croyle would benefit Matt Cassel in a way because he would take less hits and less punishment … " you just want to see Brodie in a wheelchair, is that it? what??? Look, Cassel is paid very well to take hits, and he takes them better than Croyle ever could

your idea about “Starting Brodie Croyle would help are offensive line because I have noticed Brodie Croyle gets the ball out quicker where Matt Cassel likes to hold on to it.” is invalid because the RBs and WRs won’t have time to get anywhere with too quick of a release

and, finally … “Croyle would help out Dwayne Bowe Because Brodie likes to throw like 30 yard passes alot but Matt Throws a lot of 3-10 yard passes” is also invalid, because Bowe’s never been that far down the field, and most certainly couldn’t make it that far with a QB getting rid of the ball in a hurry … that’s diametrically opposite of your other point … you can’t have both those things together

Like this; “CASSEL IS WAY BETTER”!! we cool?

I like the kid, and have supported him in the past, but the only thing good I’ve seen from him in his entire tenure as a Chief was the Week 1 performance against Baltimore. He got sacked 3 times. Based on previous history, I can’t say that he would’ve made it through some of the 4 and 5 sack games.

And you’re basing your analysis of Croyle on an opening day game against a faltering defense. Yet you’re choosing to ignore that Cassel actually dropped the Redskins from 3rd to 5th place in total defense in his WIN. That’s higher than the Ravens have been all year.

Nobody here is saying that Cassel is the second coming of Chiefus or anything, but he’s going to start on his will to win alone. You look at Brodie and you don’t see that fire or desire to lead his men. Cassel has that in spades.

an infuriating mental slowness. He doesn’t have what it takes to play the QB position and he never will. That’s why he never got to play in college and will never make it in the NFL.

After every snap of the ball I find myself saying OMG and then he gets sacked. Am I really alone?

 Brodie has never had a decent team around him. Cassel looks awful now doesn’t he. Remember the Chargers game?

I expect more of the same this week.

And I’m not bashing Haley but I don’t see what makes him so great for us. Anyone can come in and be a drill sargeant. That’s not a skill. I went thru bootcamp and I can assure you, it’s not hard to be a hardass. That doesn’t get Haley a medal ok?

Being a great coach comes down to one thing in the end..“you are what your record says you are”…Bill Parcells. Period.

I’m not bailing out on Haley because he deserves time to learn this job too, just like everyone else. But throwing titles at him and accolades for the sake of accolades is kool-aid delusional. You have to EARN that reputation. Ok?

What has Haley ever done that makes him so special? Seriously, I’m not taking anything from him in AZ, but let’s be real for a minute. He didn’t draft Fitz or Boldin and he didn’t trade for Warner. So I say good for him that he did a good job over in AZ. But really, who couldn’t? Seriously, what human with the skill set to even become an OC for any NFL team couldn’t do something miraculous with that offense?

That’s like taking over as Mohammed Ali’s coach AFTER he became an elite boxer and taking credit for it. Their already stacked with talent and experience. Warner could call his own plays. He doesn’t need an OC anymore than Peyton does. Petyon calls whatever he feels like once he lines up. He calls more audibles than anyone.

So I’m not drinking the kool aid simply because he has a different style than Edwards. That alone does not make you anything but different.

I just realized similarity to this

Croyle #12 – Gannon #12

Gannon was not allowed to start once Grbac was healthy. WHY? Because Elvis was the higher paid QB on the roster. and our then GM CP went after him (Elvis) and rewarded him with a fat contract.

Croyle was not allowed to start despite what Haley said, both QBs were neck to neck eventhough towards the tail end of training camp, Cassel started to look really bad throwing so many INTs. Croyle not starting because Cassel is the higher paid QB on the roster. and our current GM Pioli went after him and rewarded him with a fatter long term contract.

Curse of the #12? of simply because the GM f*&^ked up and is forcing the coach to play the high priced QB?

evaluation year for everybody except QB. This regime doesn’t care if Brodie or anyone else is better. Cassel is their boy and it’s a fatal flaw which will come back and bite them in the butt.

I have lost all hope. These guys were supposed to be great judges of talent but their first draft was a bust and it seems like every transaction they make is a downgrade.

he should be pulled and Brodie should get a go. No ill could come of it, and it might do Cassel a bit of good to know he’s on notice. If that’s the plan for every other position, I don’t see why it doesn’t work for QB.

Croyle- huge arm
              gets rid of the ball quicker than cassel
              but has some durabilty issues and by some i mean alot

Cassel- very accurate from short to mid
                able to create plays with feet
                doesn’t have a big time arm

To be honest This o-line is one of the worst I have ever seen, Cassel rarely gets 4 seconds to throw the ball, but When the o-line does a decent job almost every time Cassel is indecisive and trys to scan to long. I believe that IF Croyle did not have all the health issues he would be the starter and rightfully so because of his abilities but he will not be because of his tendency to get hurt and the fact that Cassel is getting paid ALOT~ but take away the factors of the 60 million dollars and Croyles health issues and just go by abilities Croyle would be my pick

let me make my point clear because of the 60 million dollars and how bad this line is, I think Croyle would get killed so that is why Matt Cassel is and should be the starter, but on talent I believe Croyle is better

Brodie Croyle 9 starts 0 win

Matt Cassel 6 starts 1 win

Matt’s clearly the winner here plus he’s got three more games left to show he could be a 35% winner.

haven’t we debated the Cassel/Croyle issue til we’re blue in the face? It’s like choosing the lesser of two evils. Neither have proved shit. At this point, I’ll be happy with a 3-13 season as it’s at least some sort of improvement.