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Chiefs Checkin' Out the Gators This Weekend

University of Florida quarterback Tim Tebow leaves the field after beating the University of Georgia 41-17 during a NCAA college football game, Saturday, Oct. 31, 2009 in Jacksonville, Fla.  (AP Photo/Stephen Morton)

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20 days ago: University of Florida quarterback Tim Tebow leaves the field after beating the University of Georgia 41-17 during a NCAA college football game, Saturday, Oct. 31, 2009 in Jacksonville, Fla. (AP Photo/Stephen Morton)

The Kansas City Chiefs scouts will be making a trip down to Gainesville, FL this weekend.  Per Chris Steuber of Scout, the Chiefs will be checking out players in Florida's matchup with Vanderbilt.

The Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Dallas Cowboys, Miami Dolphins, Jacksonville Jaguars and St. Louis Rams are expected to have scouts in attendance as well.

Florida is the No.1 team in the nation and they're not short on pro prospects.  Unfortunately, I'm not the draft guru some of you are, but here's a list of a few of the bigger names coming out of Florida this year.

QB Tim Tebow - Would the Chiefs even think about doing this?  Interesting conversation on this, I'm sure.

DE Carlos Dunlap - 6'6", 290 pounds.  Not sure where he would fit right now.  Rated No. 7 on Mel Kiper's big board.

LB Brandon Spikes - Just suspended a game for eye-gouging another player but an intriguing prospect.

CB Joe Haden - 5'11", 190 pounds.  He jumped up to No. 11 on Kiper's big board. 

I'm not quite sure who the targets might be on Vanderbilt.  Fill us in if you know of any.

We have not received word whether the Chiefs are checkin' out the Jayhawks again.  They've watched them play in person on several occasions this season.  KU plays K-State this weekend.

Chiefs GM Scott Pioli personally observed a workout with UMass LT Vladimir Ducasse last week. This weekend, Dolphins GM Jeff Ireland will check him out as well. 

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Florida may be the #1 team but they're not the best team

that distinction goes to the Oregon Ducks.

"What?!?! I aint no Obama for the weed!"
-Turk McBride

by HIV 2 Elway on Nov 3, 2009 12:12 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

SEC= slop

Everyone wants to talk, “Oh, the SEC has such good defenses…” They ever think that the offenses in the SEC are just trash? Prolly not… I’ll put the Ducks up against anybody in the country now. While Florida and Alabama are squeeking out ugly wins, and Texas beating up on the shwag Big12, Oregon is putting up numbers in the countries best conference, the conference of champions- the Pac-10!

I'd rather die on my feet than be living on my knees

by ArrowDread on Nov 3, 2009 12:23 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

hah the pac 10 is a wash

i’ll admit the SEC is overrated and the BIG 12 isn’t that good as a conference, but the only teams in the Pac 10 even worth mentioning are Orgeon and USC and USC is as overrated as Ohio State. they’ve had good teams in the past so that must mean theat they always have a good team. please. if the Pac 10 is so good then why do they let the MWC walk all over them. they aren’t even a BCS conference, though in my opinion they are better than at least 3 BCS confernces.

by Leaf on Nov 3, 2009 12:53 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Arizona and Cal would like a word with you`

Both currently ranked higher than all local teams in the BCS. Pac 10 has 4 teams in the top 20 of the BCS, more than any other conference including the SEC.

Oregon lost on the road the first week of the season. Masoli looked fat and slow. Since then, nothing but domination.

"What?!?! I aint no Obama for the weed!"
-Turk McBride

by HIV 2 Elway on Nov 3, 2009 12:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

PS

Oregon beat Utah- 31-24

I'd rather die on my feet than be living on my knees

by ArrowDread on Nov 3, 2009 1:02 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

notice how i didn't say anything about oregon

i was talking about the confenece as a whole since you claim it is the best in the country.

by Leaf on Nov 3, 2009 1:23 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Do you think Florida would lose to Boise State in any of our lifetimes??

Not a Florida or SEC fan but common sense tells you they play the best football that conference. The last three national champions, number of players in the NFL 263 the pac 10 183.

by harleyrydyr on Nov 3, 2009 1:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Number of teams in the Pac 10 - 10

Number of teams in the SEC – 12.

The number of players in the NFL is much more comparable when you factor in that the SEC has 20% more teams in the conference.

Let us not forget Oklahoma’s loss to Boise State, on a neutral field.

"What?!?! I aint no Obama for the weed!"
-Turk McBride

by HIV 2 Elway on Nov 3, 2009 1:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The thought...

of Tebow in a Chiefs uniform makes me puke in my mouth. I would be ok with Spikes I guess, not sure how he would fit into our system. (Do we really have a “system”).

by dragon6172 on Nov 3, 2009 12:23 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

And never underestimate the defensive value of a good eye-gouging

10/19/09: The Chiefs are on their way to an 11-5 season...I think....
10/26/09: Okay, so it'll be 10-6, I can live with that...

by mushin on Nov 3, 2009 12:40 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Have to admit

he might fit right in! For 3 years now, it seems like at least once a week (on gamedays!) the Chiefs have me wanting to gouge my own eyes out! :)

by ttownmikey on Nov 3, 2009 1:05 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Florida...

Tebow is a great TEAM player which is what we need right now but with our needs on this team we need a brand new O-line as well as rebuilding that linebacking corps.
But also take a look at the Poncey Twins those two will seriously help our struggling O-line

by Chiefs190 on Nov 3, 2009 12:30 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

tebow is a good QB but it's hard to say he's better then cassle.

cassle at least has proven he can play in the NFL. not all great collage QBs can.

by Leaf on Nov 3, 2009 12:57 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Long way to go for Tebow

Granted he’s performed well in big games and will have excellent measureables, it’s not clear that he will ever throw the ball well enough to be a successful NFL QB. He needs to go to a team with an established starter and excellent coaching, see if he can make the transition from experience in a few exhibition games, maybe after a couple of years or so he comes out re-made into a good drop-back passer.

OTOH someone might want to try him as Wildcat/H-back type, use his current passing skills in goal line and short-yardage option scenarios. Might be a success there if he’s quick enough, b/c he’s so big and strong,

Worth a high-round draft pick? I don’t think so.

by Wheatboy74 on Nov 3, 2009 2:23 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

spikes spikes spikes. get that man in a chief uniform

and your talking shut down on defense. the guy is a pure out athletic tackler . who is a leader. yes he gauges eyes. i know but the guy is a straight out animal.

FOUR F'S FIND UM FEEL UM FUGUM FORGET UM.

by sexassassin on Nov 3, 2009 12:31 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Not so sure

After watching that replay, I don’t know that I want that guy on my team no matter how great he is. That is a low, low act.

And he gets suspended for a 1/2 a game!!! WTF!! See Blount and Bryant!

It is a new Era at Arrowhead. I do not yet know if it is one of greatness or one of ineptitude. I am excited to see which way it goes, and will support my team until the end, bitter or sweet!

by KC4Life on Nov 3, 2009 12:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

I’m off of the Spikes bandawagon.
I think Pioli is too.

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Nov 3, 2009 12:37 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You think Pioli is off the Spikes bandwagon?

How so?

Because he isn’t a “Pioli guy?”

Johnnie Morton: The Man. The Myth. The Legend.

by craig in calgary on Nov 3, 2009 12:44 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

We could definitely

use some mean but his eye-gouge was totally out of line. Not very high on the character scale from that act & I think character will be pretty high on the determining factors after this last little episode that the Chiefs will be dealing with for awhile!

by ttownmikey on Nov 3, 2009 1:08 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Pioli

I don’t think he’d be excited to spend a high pick on a dirty player

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Nov 3, 2009 2:14 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I just don't get it!

How is he not suspended for multiple games if not the rest of the season? 1/2 a game!

Dez Bryant shouldn’t be suspended for the year for lying and then telling on himself.

It is a new Era at Arrowhead. I do not yet know if it is one of greatness or one of ineptitude. I am excited to see which way it goes, and will support my team until the end, bitter or sweet!

by KC4Life on Nov 3, 2009 1:22 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

that's an insult to girls

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Nov 3, 2009 12:37 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, you better respect...

Tebow is God’s other son, or didn’t you hear?

by RA_ChiefsFan on Nov 3, 2009 12:57 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

If Tebow somehow drops into the 2nd round

Chiefs take him with their 2nd round pick, and continue to address their O-Line with Atlanta’s 2nd rounder.

Johnnie Morton: The Man. The Myth. The Legend.

by craig in calgary on Nov 3, 2009 12:37 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

for what?

what position would Tebow play in KC?

I’d almost bet money that the Chiefs wont’ take him, regardless of the round

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Nov 3, 2009 12:38 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I am not sure what posi Tebow would play anywhere?

Let alone KC….

Linebacker?

Will Ebners Hit Parade, Pain TV; Channel 32; All the time! (PDT)

by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Nov 3, 2009 12:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Tebow won't be going pro...

he has to prepare to lead God’s armies against the Armies of Satan come December 21, 2012.

"What?!?! I aint no Obama for the weed!"
-Turk McBride

by HIV 2 Elway on Nov 3, 2009 12:37 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I'd join Tebows Army.

Johnnie Morton: The Man. The Myth. The Legend.

by craig in calgary on Nov 3, 2009 12:41 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Or preparing to be the future face of the GOP...

The dude’s perfect, a good looking white God-fearing Southerner.

"What?!?! I aint no Obama for the weed!"
-Turk McBride

by HIV 2 Elway on Nov 3, 2009 12:41 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Are you making claims...

That he is “in the closet”?

Predictions for 2009:

LJ breaks Chiefs all time rushing record at home

Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.

The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays

Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for

Chiefs 6-10

by bonesjackson on Nov 3, 2009 12:51 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah fucking right, I'm sure Tebow, LJ, and Dungy all have the same opinion of homosexuals.

/baseless claim, don’t take it seriously

"What?!?! I aint no Obama for the weed!"
-Turk McBride

by HIV 2 Elway on Nov 3, 2009 12:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

They could be scouting

Any number of guys for rounds 2-7. The only one that makes sense for the first round pick is Spikes but he isnt playing in the first half. Although Dunlap could play DE in the 3-4, do you really want 3 top 5 picks playing 2 positions on a 3-4 line?

Predictions for 2009:

LJ breaks Chiefs all time rushing record at home

Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.

The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays

Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for

Chiefs 6-10

by bonesjackson on Nov 3, 2009 12:50 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

spikes is iffy as a first rounder imo

i think the chiefs would be hoping he would fall to the second round… i wouldn’t pick him in the first

by Lucasjr5 on Nov 3, 2009 1:31 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Where is Taylor Mays?

Johnnie Morton: The Man. The Myth. The Legend.

by craig in calgary on Nov 3, 2009 12:54 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Wow I fail

Someone should have flagged me for retartedness

Johnnie Morton: The Man. The Myth. The Legend.

by craig in calgary on Nov 3, 2009 2:11 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Except that

retard slurs retarded people and we shouldn’t use that word since LJ got into so much trouble by slurring well…. I don’t want to get into trouble myself but you can see where this is going..

Predictions for 2009:

LJ breaks Chiefs all time rushing record at home

Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.

The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays

Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for

Chiefs 6-10

by bonesjackson on Nov 3, 2009 3:11 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

A long time ago someone wiser than me decided

That it was appropriate to say Retart instead of the other spelling.
I don’t make up the rules, I just abide by them :)

Johnnie Morton: The Man. The Myth. The Legend.

by craig in calgary on Nov 3, 2009 3:22 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Where

Johnnie Morton: The Man. The Myth. The Legend.

by craig in calgary on Nov 3, 2009 12:54 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Oops

Johnnie Morton: The Man. The Myth. The Legend.

by craig in calgary on Nov 3, 2009 12:54 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting banter on Tebow.

Can he be an NFL QB?
Who knows.
I do know this. He plays with an objective to just get it done. He appears to give 100%.
last week I posed the question of does this KC team have the talent. The real question might be does this KC team put out the required effort? Let’s call it the Tiger (as in Woods) effort.

by BCRavenJHawkfan on Nov 3, 2009 1:03 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Wow

I think these are the most uneducated comments I have ever seen on these boards.

Is Tebow religious? Obviously yes. Does that make you all feel so threatened that you can’t talk about his football ability and instead feel the need to insult him personally because he is religious?

Now about Tebows football ability as it pertains to the NFL.

Florida thrives on the option offense. Defenses don’t know whether Tebow will run it or hand it off or drop back and throw. This keeps the defense off balance, often for the entire game. Tebow is obviously a smart player, he obviously can throw (maybe not as well as some) and he can run (which is commonly thought of as mostly useless offensive option in the NFL. It is my belief that Tebow would struggle in a professional offense, no matter how talented he is just because his ability to run would be shut down, effectively taking away his ability to keep defenses guessing. He has already suffered a concussion once, and risking another by running 10 times a game in the NFL would be stupid. Drafting him in the first round is too high. Not saying it won’t happen, it probably will, but in my opinion it is too high.

As for who the Chiefs could be looking for from Vanderbilt?

Only guy I can think of is DB Myron Lewis. I don’t know anyone else with pro talent.

On Florida, Brandon Spikes is commonly thought of as a great 3-4 run stopper and it would not surprise me at all if the Chiefs looked at taking him if he was available in the second round.

by Lucasjr5 on Nov 3, 2009 1:23 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Feel the need to insult him personally because he is religious?

I don’t think being the future face of the GOP or leading God’s armies during the apocalypse are insults. Both are fucking badass.

"What?!?! I aint no Obama for the weed!"
-Turk McBride

by HIV 2 Elway on Nov 3, 2009 1:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

lol

alright whatever

by Lucasjr5 on Nov 3, 2009 1:30 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Jermaine Cunningham from Florida

is another prospect at DE. His knocks are that he’s undersized but he’ll still get drafted.

Carlos Dunlap is another DE from Florida that’s actually a first round prospect some people think.

Ok I’m done. :p

by Lucasjr5 on Nov 3, 2009 1:38 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Florida's got so much talent

Hard to guess about any specific Pioli targets. For all I know they’ve got 2nd-team guys who would rate a decent draft grade. Agree that first round is too high for Spikes.

by Wheatboy74 on Nov 3, 2009 2:29 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

...

Why is Pioli checkin out the Chickenhawks? We, the Texas Tech Red Raiders successfully demolished them with our RS Freshman quarterback. I highly doubt anyone on their defense would be worth checking out after that. Their offensively line allowed a few sacks on Reesing to boot. If anything Pioli should check out TTU. We got some killer prospects here who I would love to see wearing a Chiefs uniform.

by Matt89 on Nov 3, 2009 3:39 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

who wouldnt check them out

They are the #1 team afterall

by Ren on Nov 3, 2009 3:50 PM CST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Don't forget about the Pouncey Twins

Florida has two guards by the last name of Pouncey, one is a second round prospect and the other is a 3rd-5th round prospect. Chiefs probably have a higher chance of drafting one of them than any of the other players above.

by ChiefMizzou09 on Nov 3, 2009 4:34 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Yes

I think you are correct; most likely if the Chiefs take a Gator the ast name will be Pouncey.

by Kane on Nov 3, 2009 4:48 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs


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