Chiefs Decision on Kolby Smith Coming by Friday
(Update Nov. 4th: Haley said he was wrong. The team has until Saturday.) In a press conference with reporters yesterday, Kansas City Chiefs head coach Todd Haley said the team will make a decision by Friday regarding the status of RB Kolby Smith.
Injured exactly a year ago yesterday, Smith landed on the PUP list prior to the season and started practicing two weeks ago. The Chiefs have another week to determine if they will activate him or not but all signs are pointing to an active Smith.
"He made it through the first two weeks pretty well," the head coach said of Smith, "and looked like he was moving around pretty good today so I’m optimistic about having an opportunity to see him play."
The Chiefs coaching staff has been used to seeing him in the rehab area throughout the offseason and first seven weeks of the regular season. Smith has been working out every day and multiple reports indicate he's getting his "body by Haley", whatever that means.
The Chiefs are just now getting to see how he plays in pads.
"So far, not a great look," Haley said when asked how much he can glean from Smith in practice without pads, "but we’ll go into pads here once we get back. All last week we were in shells. But we’ll make sure it’ll be up-tempo for him and if, indeed, we are going to activate him we would want him to be ready."
In the event that Smith can go, he expects to split time with No. 1 back Jamaal Charles, who is facing his own questions of whether he can hold the entire load.
"Obviously, there is going to be some more play-time involved here and I think he’s got a great opportunity," Haley said of Charles.
Haley did not give Charles a glowing review when asked if he was capable of carrying a full load responding, "I don't know."
"We’ll have to see how that goes," he continued. "But I think he’s doing everything on his end to be ready to go. He’s probably our best pass protector as a back as far as understanding who’s he supposed to block. He’s really improved at that and he’s listened to Coach Mo [Carthon] who’s stayed on him pretty hard from the start. I think he’s getting better. We’ll see how it goes but it’s an opportunity for Jamaal."
Of course, a discussion didn't go by without Haley pointing to minus-plays as a huge problem for the team.
"I think our offense in general needs to be better and that has to start with the elimination of negative plays," he said. "We just can’t have the amount of hidden yardage in negative plays that we have. Figuring 100 yards equals seven points and you start adding those up you’re getting into significant points that we’ve left out there."
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Body By Haley
I suppose that means that he’ll have lost weight from last year but declined in skills. :)
Seriously, though, Smith might have a role as a complementary back, but he’s a fringe player and Jamaal Charles should be the starter and get the lion’s share of carries so long as he keeps the fumbling under control. He’s the best RB on this team by far and the Chiefs need to see what he can handle. Smith should be a candidate for getting cut next year unless he shows good performances.
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Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
6. The Chiefs will go 7-9 in 2009, good for 2nd in the AFC West. Revision: We go 5-11 and finish behind Oakland.
7. Ryan Succop will not perform better in 2009 than Connor Barth did in 2008.
8. The Chiefs will have a bottom 10 defense this year.
9. RB will be a problem area this season on offense.
by UCrawford on Nov 3, 2009 7:47 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
maybe Body By Haley is more muscular and stronger
strong and fast would be an improvement over LJ who is strong and dumb …
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by upamtn on Nov 3, 2009 8:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I just don't know anymore.
I don’t anything about Smith. Really. He’s been so limited here in KC. Charles, well he’s speedy but he doesn’t seem to have the toughness of say Rice from Baltimore who will break 5 or 6 tackles and carry defenders with him out of bounds.
I just don’t think we have any toughness in KC. There’s no Gastineau’s here. No intensity. No rage. No angry players like Ray Lewis. No one runs with a chip on their shoulder. And with this line we have it’s even more difficult to tell what ’s going on for real…I need a nap.
by krayfish on Nov 3, 2009 8:01 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Charles isn't that power runner, but Charles is omg fast
… and he’s the one legitimate speed threat we have from the backfield, the only one who can really turn the corner and go upfield in a hurry
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!
by upamtn on Nov 3, 2009 8:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Kolby
He needs to prove himself. Until he does, I’m with UC, he probably gets cut in the off-season, if he makes it that far. Saw some flashes last year, but I’m not sold on him. Charles is our best option for now. We also know that Savage can spell Charles for a few plays… Love to see Kolby seize the opportunity and step up!
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by Chief_Elmo on Nov 3, 2009 8:07 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Until someone learns how to run block
Kolby, Charles or Savage couldn’t drive a tank for a first down.
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by Patrick Allen on Nov 3, 2009 8:24 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Drive a Tank
I beg to differ on the opinions of Kolby.When given a chance in the past he carried the load well.Any player who’s chances are hit or miss isn’t going to show what he can do in a full season,obviously.Unless he’s lost some guts with the injury he will show better skills than LJ.(past LJ).He’s tough with very good vision.Priest worked well with him.I hope he gets his chances.
John Soellner
by chiefs63 on Nov 3, 2009 8:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It is hard to tell with any of these guys
they have never really gotten the chance to prove themsleves. Change of pace backs and 3rd down backs often have higher average rushing yards becuse they are brought in to run a draw on third and long when the D isn’t playing the run.
I just feel like the Chiefs O line is so bad and the receiver blocking is so terrible that it is going to be hard for anyone to put up satisfactory rushing yards…however, I think a guy like Charles who is fast and shifty has a better chance than a bigger power back.
I wouldn’t mind seeing a platoon of Charles, Savage and Smith.
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by Patrick Allen on Nov 3, 2009 8:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Argh!
This formatting blows! What is next? Are they going to make us type in all CAPS too?
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by Patrick Allen on Nov 3, 2009 8:34 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
PATRICK I THINK THEY STARTED IT ALREADY
oh wait, never mind …
but yeah, I hate not being able to separate thoughts/sentences/paragraphs with a blank line, unless we have to use HTML on it maybe?
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!
by upamtn on Nov 3, 2009 8:54 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
RB's
I must disagree, also. Until I’m proven wrong, that is…which could be pretty quickly.
Yes, we need better blocking. Obviously. But, we also need a RB that can make people miss. LJ was never that kind of back. Will Charles be any better behind this line? Smith? Who knows? But, I’m sure ready to find out.
by Scott B. on Nov 3, 2009 8:36 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I was ready to find out about 4 games ago
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by Patrick Allen on Nov 3, 2009 8:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely!
Charles, Smith, Savage…whoever. They might not do jack, either. But, there’s only one way to find out for sure. Let ’em play.
I find it a little amusing. So many people say “Charles is not an every-down back”. And, we know this…how?
by Scott B. on Nov 3, 2009 8:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
what's his fumble per carry this year?
that helps our knowing.
by ExtraMetal on Nov 3, 2009 9:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree, six-three
I thought Kolby did a decent job filling in for LJ in ‘07. He had a 150 yard game against Oakland that year and a couple more in the 80’s. Decent production behind our O-line in the post-Roaf era.
by jboot1 on Nov 3, 2009 11:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t want to hear all this silliness that it was LJ’s fault that he couldn’t gain major yards and then it’s the “blocking” that’s keeping the backups from getting them.
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by kcbh on Nov 3, 2009 8:41 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
No
Who cares who’s fault it is, the point is you’re paying $4.5 million to a guy who is only getting 2.7 yards per carry. Expect people to be upset about that. You can Savage or Smith minimum contracts and get the same production.
by Joel Thorman on Nov 3, 2009 8:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
anyone can fall forward an gain a yard
so why put up with LJ? I think it is a cobination of him being old and bad blocking. Either way, he is the wrong RB for this team right now.
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by Patrick Allen on Nov 3, 2009 8:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Amen Brother!
"Every day is an evaluation and if you’re not out there how can we depend on you? If you’re out there and you don’t know what to do, how can we depend on you?" Accountability -- Haley-style...
by Chief_Elmo on Nov 3, 2009 8:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He is a vested veteran that has payed his dues, did you say the same thing about Priest when he stayed home and rode his jet ski for two seasons?
by kcbh on Nov 3, 2009 8:51 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
With regard to Priest riding his jet-ski...
I understand why people want to bag on Priest for that, but to me at least, it was pretty clear that situation had as much to do with Peterson as it did Holmes. CP did the same thing with Willie Roaf, because he didn’t want to believe Roaf will really done.
John
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by RDOGuy on Nov 3, 2009 9:03 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You might be on to something there, it must have been Carl’s fault, everything else was, right?
Just kidding.
The Priest and Willie deal is kinda the same thing, except Willie didn’t sit home a draw paychecks for three years. Holmes did.
I know that is a small difference but I think it should be noted.
by kcbh on Nov 3, 2009 9:11 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh... I don't blame Peterson for EVERYTHING
For example… he had nothing to do with the rise of Nazi Germany, or the failure of my first marriage. There may have been some other stuff in which he had no involvement, too… I’ll have to think on it. :-)
John
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by RDOGuy on Nov 3, 2009 9:23 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You may be underestimating
the role of Peterson in your 1st marriage.
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by KCSatchmo on Nov 3, 2009 9:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I wondered how long it would take
for someone to take that opening!
John
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by RDOGuy on Nov 3, 2009 9:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't really care what Priest's situation was
He is a vested veteran that has payed his dues, did you say the same thing about Priest when he stayed home and rode his jet ski for two seasons?
So? That’s why people say release him (and because he is a vested veteran, he’ll get his money).
by Joel Thorman on Nov 3, 2009 9:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Getting Paid
He is going to get paid no matter at this point…so get over it.
Jerome
by easyjb on Nov 3, 2009 9:04 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's assuming that he doesn't screw up again
As long as LJ keeps drinking he’s always prone to screwing up again. The next one could be worth 4 game checks.
by jmcgoblue on Nov 3, 2009 9:18 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's clearly both at fault (LJ and the O-line)
If you can’t make a hole, you either need the speed to get around the end or some elusive ability to make someone miss. LJ has neither.
by jboot1 on Nov 3, 2009 11:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I've got it! Smith, Charles AND Savage ... all at the very same time!
Triple Option Wishbone … look, could it HURT?
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by upamtn on Nov 3, 2009 8:56 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
The Only Question
The only question about Smith is how he handles the injury. Fri experience I know that it is hard for anyone to come back from a knee injury…Charles has not really shown anything but “potential” in the two years he has been with the team. I agree he need a chance, but if he doesn’t show something right away, go with Smith. Smith is elusive enough to use even the Chiefs oline. We seem to forget that Priest set up hos blockers better than anyone I have seem with the possible exception of Marcus Allen. With this team you can’t just run straight ahead like Johnson does. Smith has the ability to hit the middle and take it outside…the injury is the key…
Jerome
by easyjb on Nov 3, 2009 8:59 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Word on the street is that he can get 5 YPC if we just start him over LJ.
We will see.
If he can’t ,then a lot of folks will have to wipe egg of their grills.
Just sayin’.
by kcbh on Nov 3, 2009 9:15 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I don't care who gets the ball
As long as it is not LJ, He has had his shot, and he shot himself in the foot. A running back by committee I believe will be our best shot at getting any production out of the running game. As far as LJ is concerned, a 2.7 average and on pace to set the record for worst running back in NFL history should be enough to glue his ass to the bench, I’d rather see Warpaint out there than LJ.
I do not understand how anyone can ever support LJ for anything let a lone a starting position, you have taken your support to an unknown level and his past performance as a running back is no reason. We have had a lot of running backs in Chiefs History and none of them have been have the problem LJ has been. Let it go, if you really want to toot LJ’s horn then feel free to, but I myself have had enough of reading it.
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by KC Fanatic on Nov 3, 2009 9:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think kcbh's point is:
why do you expect any RB to get more than 2.7 ypc behind this line, and if they don’t will you call for their benching?
As far as LJ is concerned, a 2.7 average and on pace to set the record for worst running back in NFL history should be enough to glue his ass to the bench
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Nov 3, 2009 9:28 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I kind of do
Yes the line is a major problem, but so is not fighting for a yard or more. I sick of watch the ball go to LJ knowing that he’s going down when the first person touches him. Again I think the running back by committee can make defenses play us differently, they know full well when it is just LJ in the back field he’s not going out for a pass, thus they load up the line. I just want to see someone fight for that extra yard.
As for kcbh, I’ve lost track of how many post I have seen of his all along the same lines, that LJ should be the starter, and none of the problems are LJ’s fault. I can understand supporting a player with some issues, I can understand supporting a favorite player, and I can see supporting a player that has done well for the team in the past. However in my opinion what LJ has done the whole time he has been in KC, there is no way to support this bum any longer…unless of course your one of LJ’s posse or getting money from him like say an agent.
is it me? or isn't about time the Lamar Hunt trophy belonged to His team?
I’m a Chiefs fan Dammit and I’m damn proud of it!
by KC Fanatic on Nov 3, 2009 10:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
(Take nothing personal from this statement I am just tossing it out there.)
It’s funny how “fans” will support a player when they are winning,even over looking multiple dui convictions, but when they are losing …. they are bums.
by kcbh on Nov 3, 2009 10:24 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Funny Stuff
Anyone else see this quote from Jamaal Charles on the KCChiefs blog: "I’m ready," Charles said. "It’s my NFL dream and I’d be pleasured to take the job right now."
Cracks me up. He’d be “…pleasured…” — Heck, I wanna be pleasured too… :)
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by Chief_Elmo on Nov 3, 2009 1:03 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

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