Chiefs Scouting Director, Other Scouts Head Down to Florida Today
by Joel Thorman on Nov 28, 2009 8:57 AM CST
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PrintThe Kansas City Chiefs scouts will be out in full force today. We know Chiefs scouts will be represented at at least two games in Florida this afternoon.
Florida State vs. Florida
First up, Florida takes on Florida State and the Chiefs will have a representative at the game.
This is the second time (that we know of) the Chiefs have gone down to Gainesville to check out the Gators so, to me, that's an indication that they're taking serious looks at a player (or multiple players). Big name possibilities include QB Tim Tebow, DE Carlos Dunlap, CB Joe Haden and LB Brandon Spikes.
Those are the big names.
This game is at 2:30 on CBS.
Miami vs. South Florida (in Tampa Bay)
Chiefs scouting director Phil Emery will be attending the Miami vs. South Florida game in Tampa Bay.
Possibilities from South Florida include FS Nate Allen, DE George Selvie, CB Jerome Murphy and DE Jason Pierre Paul. And for Miami it includes Jason Fox and LB Daryl Sharpton.
The Chiefs second round pick could be in play here.
This game is at 2:30 on ABC (regional).
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I think if and I said "IF" Tebow turns out to be the man and is worth a lot in the draft
we should get him and use him as trade bait. There are a lot of teams in the hunt right now including the 49ers, the Panthers and Buffalo. Also Denver would be huge for a QB this year. That would give us some interesting players to trade for huh?
Sky’s the limit. But if we can get a top top QB then we would have some serious leverage. If not those other teams may trade up with us for a high spot. We appear to be sitting pretty with this years draft. Go get it done Pioli.
I don't see the logic
Spend the No. 10 or so pick in the draft on Tebow….his value likely won’t ever get higher than that. Big risk to move up a couple draft spots.
Drafting players as bait is, in my opinion, a massive risk that I don’t think many teams take. It’s pretty freakin’ hard to sign these guys to a contract that won’t blow up in the team’s face when they do trade the player.
by Joel Thorman on Nov 28, 2009 9:07 AM CST up reply actions
PLUS
Who wants to spend 20 million on a QB whos only real value is to run the ball. Everyone also seems to forget that the LB in college are not as big or fast as in the NFL. I dont see any team spending tons of money on a guy that could very well end up hurt a lot.
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by Jazzy Megalodon on Nov 28, 2009 1:11 PM CST up reply actions
There are shitty ideas and then there is this...
Once the player is draft his value instantly diminishes, its like driving the new car off the lot. KC would lose all leverage as other teams could simply call our bluff.
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by HIV 2 Elway on Nov 28, 2009 10:20 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Better to go for the sure thing,
the guy that you really need for the team. I don’t agree with the risk of trade bait, just like I don’t like trading a player that is performing well, just to get a #2 draft pick….ala Jarred Allen. Better to keep the high level known performers, than to gamble on a potential. I do agree with trading up and down in the draft and trading some of the under-performers, but not starters.
I still can't figure out why ...
Malcolm Jamal Warner is playing for the Gators.
by JacinB on Nov 28, 2009 9:21 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
I think we could use Spikes a lot more than Tebow
I just don’t know if Pioli is willing to spend a 1st round pick on him. I’m still bushin the Gerhart banwagon!!!
Fuck Stanford
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by HIV 2 Elway on Nov 28, 2009 10:21 AM CST up reply actions
You may not like Stanford but we will need a bigger RB at some point.
by palomarchief on Nov 28, 2009 11:20 AM CST up reply actions
A bigger RB can be found later on in the draft.
Tis not worth first or 2nd round talent with the wholes that we have.(possibly even 3rd round).
I’d say take a big bruiser in the 5th round.
You may be right, but that kid is a stud.
by palomarchief on Nov 28, 2009 11:24 AM CST up reply actions
IM WITH U!!!!
gerhart and charles in the backfield we’re set for 5+ years!!! He’s the beast we need for our short yardage woes!
Well if Eric Berry doesn't come out and there are no tier 1 offensive linemen to pick.
you might be right on…
It just appears that we can pick in the 2nd round and get offensive linemen that can start. Maybe a safety if Eric Berry stays another year. We could also get WR’s and other special teams players there.
Picking up Gerhart might work… I just don’t want to waste a 1st round pick.
agreed...
not with the first pick but maybe moving up into the back of the first round i think he can be had! we have the flexiblity to do that. deep draft for oline and i think we need to bring in at least 1 OL in free agency.
2nd round!
S nate allen(USF) or FS thomas (Texas)
I'm not sold on a RB in the 1st round...
I’m just playing out Palomar’s idea as he has said some pretty decent stuff in the past.
agreed...
with RB in first round i like to not have to move up to get him. unfortunately i think most those teams picking at the end of the first would love gerharts value there. i think he’ll go 25-35 range. with us winning a few more games down the stretch that puts us out of that slot. it’d be low risk moving up to grab him otherwise we might be facing him twice a year! (chargers) ouch i’d be pissed!! lol
Spikes is a 4-3 linebacker
Maybe if Herm was still here….but he ain’t!
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by KansasCityShuffle on Nov 28, 2009 12:31 PM CST up reply actions
Wouldnt mind having
Spikes but what a dirty player. An Tebow is not going to be a good NFL OB. FL’s RB are too young not to mention also so small right now. Spikes is the only guy on FL that will make a big impact on the NFL next year. Just my thoughts though.
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by Jazzy Megalodon on Nov 28, 2009 11:26 AM CST reply actions
BS
Haden is a potential shutdown corner, who alongside Flowers would be ridiculous
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by KansasCityShuffle on Nov 28, 2009 12:32 PM CST up reply actions
OH YEAH
Totally forgot about him. Your right he is very good. But I dont see any of the players on UF right now, that can or will make an impact like Percy Harvin did. I live in Florida an i’ve watched all the UF games this year other than one an they are not as good as people think they are. Texas can beat them. Alabama might before Texas even gets its shot.
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by Jazzy Megalodon on Nov 28, 2009 1:02 PM CST up reply actions
dont forget!
THE LIL FREAK! CARLOS DUNLAP WILL BE A STUD IF USED PROPERLY!
Javier Arenas
Just the punt returner and special teams guy we are looking for. Maybe a second rounder to give you great field position every time. He’s a freak man!!
2nd rounder?????
on a return guy? WOW heard it all now! lol
Do you guys think that Tebow will be a good NFL qb?
It just seems to me that he isnt that good. I mean he has great leadership abilities, but it seems that hes just an average QB and isn’t anything special. Sure he can run, but so can michael vick. I dont know, just rambling on i guess.
You either have to be Canadian or a crackhead
to seriously think Tebow will be a good NFL QB
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by KansasCityShuffle on Nov 28, 2009 12:33 PM CST up reply actions
tebow's a project still!
might not be a top prospect on skill alone but theres something to be said about his will and leadership. i think he’ll work his A$$ off to get better!! gonna have to have a legit QB coach on staff to help him along! draftin a QB is such a crap shoot anyway! i’ll take his 3+ years as a starter and intangibles!! NOT saying we should draft him at all but i like his chances of being good just as much as any other QB in this draft! whoever drafts him needs to bring BOOMER , mark brunnell or steve young in! being a lefty QB is different!
He could be BUT
He for 3 years now has been trying to learn how to throw the ball an he just cant. UF got him another QB coach an it hasnt helped. Tebow’s will be the 5th or 6th QB drafted…..Atleast i hope cause i got money that atleast 2 QB get drafted before him. (I think this is a good bet).
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by Jazzy Megalodon on Nov 28, 2009 1:08 PM CST up reply actions
I wonder if Jason Fox will fall to Round 2
conventional wisdom says ‘No’
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by KansasCityShuffle on Nov 28, 2009 12:33 PM CST reply actions
Id would like to see a poll of who everyone thinks would be our first pick...
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i say RONALDO MCCLAIN!bama
BEST LB out there!! hands down! Complete player can rush pretty good cover well and is one of the surest tacklers i’ve seen in awhile!
Depends on...
Where we end up. if its a Top 5 I’d trade it away. we dont need more high paid rookies. if its somewhere in the 10-15 I’d like to see OL or a CB/ Safety.
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by Jazzy Megalodon on Nov 28, 2009 1:19 PM CST up reply actions
Haden looks good
McClain over Spikes….imo.
Tebow is a great leader on and off the field. A great role model. He would immediately become the face of any NFL organization. Who says he cant throw??? Who? Look at his completion % and his efficiency. Just because he runs a lot and stands in shotgun doesnt mean he cant throw….
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I've been watching Southern vs Grambling.
Better game and there are prospects at those schools as well!
Now I’ll watch the last half of KU vs Mizzou.
by BCRavenJHawkfan on Nov 28, 2009 4:25 PM CST reply actions
Rico Mccoy is also having a pretty solid game with 7 tackles in the first half.
I know that we have been looking pretty good at linebacker, but he might be a good late round pick for us.
(he has had multiple injuries… this is his big drawback)
Eric Berry has been nominated for:
The Jim Thorpe Award
and Lott award
Oh and Eric Berry only needs 8 more yards on an Interception
to become the SEC all time yards leader off of interceptions.
mcclain is where we should pick....
i really think it should be mcclain… but for a homer pick, i think briscoe would just about make our WR corp disgustingly good…. just think… bowe, briscoe and chambers… sick i tell you, just sick…
For Kentucky...
Micah Johnson an ILB has looked pretty good. He has had some solid behind the line play.
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