I like Haley. And so does Pioli. In talking to Pioli on Sirius NFL Radio on Wednesday, the general...

I like Haley. And so does Pioli. In talking to Pioli on Sirius NFL Radio on Wednesday, the general manager stressed how well Haley has handled the various challenges of this season in Kansas City, ranging from the dismissal of Chan Gailey before the season, to the Johnson situation to Dwayne Bowe's suspension. Pioli loves Haley's drive and passion. And the overmatched Chiefs play hard for four quarters.

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No surprises here

Haley is here next year no question. If next year is a debacle, then I can’t say he is safe any longer

"I can only imagine what it is going to be like in that town if we are fortunate to build a winner. You win there, you can sense that it would be something really special." - Todd Haley

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by Jason Shore on Nov 22, 2009 10:53 AM CST reply actions

Schein Lost Me At This Comment

The record proves that Jauron, a strong football mind, did a bad job.

Dick Jauron was a bad football coach. He was a bad coach in Buffalo, he was a bad coach in Detroit, and he was a bad coach in Chicago. That’s why he’s only had one winning season in ten seasons as a head coach and why he’s been fired from every one of those jobs. So when Schein calls him a “strong football mind” what I really hear Schein saying is “I don’t really watch football or pay attention to results…I just regurgitate whatever drivel I hear the talking heads on TV spout the most”.

So you’ll forgive me if I don’t give a lot of weight to his assessment of Haley (or Pioli) when his entire argument is based on well-worn platitudes and “intangibles” arguments that are unsupported by any actual evidence of accomplishment.

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Predictions for 2009

Fire Haley now.

Save UCrawford's soul as a Chiefs fan...or lose your own. Take the bet.

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2009/11/9/1123799/the-driver-of-the-fire-haley

by UCrawford on Nov 22, 2009 10:58 AM CST reply actions

Nice words about the Chiefs

Makes us homers feel good whether true or not.

His comment about Belichick’s call to go for it at the end of the game as being “flat our wrong” leads me to question his judgement. To say it was a controversial call is an understatement but it can easily be argued that it was the correct decision. At that point in the game Manning and the Colts offense seemed to have the upper hand over NE’s defense. On the flip side Brady’s offense seemed to have a bit of an edge over the Colts defense. BB may have thought his D couldn’t stop them from getting in the endzone whether from 30 yards out or 65 yds with 2 minutes left. In any case the decision was closer to a toss up than “flat our wrong”.

by breeder on Nov 22, 2009 11:33 AM CST reply actions

Agreed About Belichick's Comments

I can see why people would be upset on the call, but when you’re talking about two yards in a non-red zone setting (where the defense has to guard the field) and a great offense on the field with the chances of conversion hovering somewhere between 50-60 percent, I think you have to go for the win. It’s not like going for a two-point conversion (with a much lower chance of success) where the outcome of the game rises or falls on one play. The Colts still have to get the ball into the end zone (and a 50 yard difference in a two minute offense really isn’t that much for the Colts offense…Manning already made long drives to bring the Colts back).

Belichick saw the game slipping away from him and made a smart, informed gamble to go for the win that wouldn’t automatically cost them the game if they lost. That’s what he’s supposed to do. It just didn’t pay off…which is what happens in football. As for Teddy Bruschi’s comment that the defensive players should have been given the chance to win the game, my rebuttal would be “You mean the same defensive players that choked away a big lead and folded like a card table after that conversion attempt?” The defense was going to struggle to stop Manning no matter where he was on the field…punt or no punt. Belichick knew that and went for the win with his best players in that game…that’s why he’s a great coach who’s won three Super Bowls.

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Predictions for 2009

Fire Haley now.

Save UCrawford's soul as a Chiefs fan...or lose your own. Take the bet.

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2009/11/9/1123799/the-driver-of-the-fire-haley

by UCrawford on Nov 22, 2009 11:50 AM CST up reply actions

Clarification

Agreed about the comments on Belichick, I meant.

Moderator - Arrowhead Pride
Predictions for 2009

Fire Haley now.

Save UCrawford's soul as a Chiefs fan...or lose your own. Take the bet.

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2009/11/9/1123799/the-driver-of-the-fire-haley

by UCrawford on Nov 22, 2009 11:50 AM CST up reply actions

The fact no one seems to mention is that Belichek did the same thing

in almost the exact same situation a few weeks earlier against Atlanta. He went for it on 4th and short at about the 30 and made it. So if it was an “insult” like Bruschi and Harrison said, why didn’t they express their outrage after the Atlanta game? Because it’s only an insult if it doesn’t work? I lost a lot of respect for those two as commentators last week. I still like Belichek’s call, it ‘s part of what has made him successful. All the talking heads who’ve been talking about it being “arrogant” and a knock on his defense are idiots.

"Bigamy is having one wife too many. Monogamy is the same." ~Oscar Wilde

by Big Chief on Nov 22, 2009 11:57 AM CST up reply actions

That's The Thing

It’s only “controversial” when the gamble doesn’t pay off. He didn’t put the entire outcome of a game on one play…if he won the gamble (in which, it cannot be overstated, the odds were very much in his favor) the game was almost certainly over. If he lost, the defense still had an opportunity to keep the Colts out of the end zone. 50 yards is nothing when it comes to the Indy offense.

And after the 2nd half the Patriots defense had, I sure as hell wouldn’t have trusted them to win the game against Peyton Manning, no matter how much yardage he had to get.

Moderator - Arrowhead Pride
Predictions for 2009

Fire Haley now.

Save UCrawford's soul as a Chiefs fan...or lose your own. Take the bet.

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2009/11/9/1123799/the-driver-of-the-fire-haley

by UCrawford on Nov 22, 2009 12:33 PM CST up reply actions

I like Haley as well

Aside from what’s mentioned I like his aggressive tendencies. After years of coaches who play it safe and close to the vest I think we have a coach who has the mindset that can bring us a championship. There’s a long way to go. He’s made some mistakes, but I think he’s learning and continuing to improve.

"Bigamy is having one wife too many. Monogamy is the same." ~Oscar Wilde

by Big Chief on Nov 22, 2009 11:52 AM CST reply actions