Injured players are pressured to play. They’re treated poorly by the coaching staff. Players who get away with circumventing rules relating to PEDs and excel on the field are rewarded with accolades and huge contracts.
Dwayne Bowe did exactly what the NFL asked him to do. Football demands that an athlete heal as soon as possible and by any means necessary. Football demands that an athlete get leaner, faster and stronger as soon as possible and by any means necessary. Football doesn’t tolerate excuses.
Bowe a victim of the win-at-all-costs pressure - KansasCity.com
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The NFL didn't ask him
to show up 30lbs overweight. Putting this on anyone but Bowe is ridiculous.
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by KCSatchmo on Nov 22, 2009 8:19 AM CST reply actions
It's a Whitlock column. It's supposed to be ridiculous.
Since he has no quality insights, he gains readership by posting inflammatory nonsense. If people would quit reading his tripe, maybe the Star would replace him with a real sports columnist.
Did you read it?
He doesn’t say it wasn’t Bowe’s fault. He’s trying to give insight into the pressures on an athlete in the NFL. This goes hand in hand with all of the stories popping up over the last few weeks about players and concussions.
He makes good points. Yes, Bowe is responsible for his actions. Yes, there is a culture of “do whatever it takes (just don’t get caught).”
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Nov 22, 2009 8:55 AM CST up reply actions
Umm yeah
I did read the article. He uses about 6 paragraphs to make an excuse for Bowe that the pressure to lose the weight lead to a bad decision. He completely ignores that he created the pressure by stuffing his face all offseason.
He then proceeds to use the last 5 paragraphs to pin Bowe’s “flop” on Pioli and Haley.
Witlock’s article is garbage. As usual.
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by KCSatchmo on Nov 22, 2009 9:02 AM CST up reply actions
This column is not intended as a rationalization of Dwayne Bowe’s mistake relating to performance-enhancing drugs. Nor is it intended to be a demonization of Chiefs head coach Todd Haley.
He’s not making excuses, he’s giving possible reasons. Motive does not excuse the action, but it might help someone to understand it.
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Nov 22, 2009 9:11 AM CST up reply actions
“In terms of wins and losses this season, I had low expectations for Haley and Pioli in year one. What I expected were a few individual success stories. Bowe is another flop.”
What purpose does placing a description of Bowe as a flop in the same sentence as low expectations for Pioli Haley? It also come one paragraph after calling his coaching style “disrespectful”. Gee, I wonder what the intent is.
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by KCSatchmo on Nov 22, 2009 9:14 AM CST up reply actions
The media has overexaggerated how overweight he was over the months
Around training camp it was widely reported he was 20 lbs overweight. Then over time it was upped to 25, the latest report is 30. The media is exaggerating the story as it goes.
Personally I don’t believe Bowe was 20 lbs overweight from what he was used to the previous regime expecting him to play at. Its quite possible that he came in 5, maybe 10 lbs over what he was used to being targetted going into training camp at (where you are supposed to get in shape) and that Haley demanded more than had been asked of him before.
Just look at Branden Albert. It is ridiculous to think that he came in 60 lbs over the weight he was expecting to play at. Haley demanded he play at a lower weight than he had expected.
What I see here with people turning on Bowe for something as simple as a diuretic (hell, my mom takes diuretics) is a clear case of class envy. People are pissed these guys make so much money so they take every chance they can to rip into them.
Pretty pathetic.
Who turned on Bowe?
Whether is was 5lbs or 50lbs he came in overweight. I simply refuse to blame ayone else for the decisions he made. I don’t hate him. I don’t want to trade him. I won’t boo him.
As for “Pretty Pathetic”…go fuck yourself.
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by KCSatchmo on Nov 22, 2009 9:11 AM CST up reply actions
So does 80% of players on every team.
Almost all players come into the mini camps overweight. That’s what they are for. To get into shape.
I’m not blaming anyone but Bowe for taking something that was banned. It was a bad decision.
I just think its pretty funny how fast people are ready to throw a player overboard to side with unproven coaches and managment.
As for "Pretty Pathetic"…go fuck yourself.
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Looks like someone took their clever pills today. You twisted my simple statement that he is responsible for coming into camp overweight into a broad assessment that I have turned on Bowe and my motivation is envy. Therefore I’m pathetic.
How’s this for pathetic? You trail around after these athletes with your tongue hanging out hoping that maybe some of their greatness will fall in a bead of sweat from their ass and land in your gaping face hole. You’re an opologist who’s fanboy status clouds your ability to believe that your idols could possibly do any wrong.
Maybe I’m being to hard in my assessment of your motives. But hey, I’, just following your example.
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by KCSatchmo on Nov 22, 2009 9:24 AM CST up reply actions
D. Bowe did exactly what the NFL told him NOT to do
“Dwayne Bowe did exactly what the NFL asked him to do.”
No. That’s why Bowe was suspended. Bowe cut corners. He cheated. He broke the rules.
This isn’t hard to understand unless your brain is tied up in knots. Bowe is a professional athlete that behaves in an unprofessional manner. Kind of like Jason Whitlock. He’s a professional writer that writes like an immature amateur.
Not only does Whitlock not make good points in this poorly-reasoned piece, he makes a fool out of himself. These weren’t secret rules and Bowe has APOLOGIZED. He admitted HE was wrong. He isn’t going to sue Haley, the Chiefs or the NFL. He’s giving up four games checks because he is an immature fool.
Period. End of story.
Bowe is immature fool because he admitted he was wrong?
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by averagegatsby on Nov 22, 2009 8:59 AM CST up reply actions
I've gotta disagree
He would look like much more of a fool had he not cut the weight, and been cut from the team. Every Chief’s fan that’s dissing Bowe right now, think about that. Haley don’t think twice about cutting good players that don’t do what he wants.
So ask yourself…would you rather see him sit a 4 game suspension, or play the rest of his career on another football team?
I don't think you really even know what the situation is.
Diuretics are not illegal because they give the player an advantage in losing weight.
They are illegal because they can be used to cover up steroid use.
I don’t think anyone believes that Bowe was taking steroids. So its kind of ridiculous to start labeling Bowe a cheater. He broke the law of the rules, but not the spirit.
Exactly. Bowe's a cheater.
And Bowe has apologized for cheating. Diuretics are also used to lose WATER WEIGHT. Bowe, like every other Chief, had a weight to make—- and if they don’t make weight, they pay BIG fines for every pound over. Bowe didn’t want to lose money. So, he cheated.
And he got caught. So instead of losing a few thousand dollars for being overweight, Bowe is losing hundreds of thousands of dollars.
For cheating.
He broke the rules. He violated the spirit of the rules. He apologized for his behavior that everyone knows is wrong.
Bowe f*cked up. He admitted it. He apologized. You can’t apologize for doing something right or noble.
by ChiefConcern on Nov 22, 2009 9:22 AM CST up reply actions
random capitalized WORDS!!!
Perhaps Bowe “cheated” because he was desperate to make his coaches happy. After all he was ridden and worked like a rented mule during the offseason.
Basically I dont think its fair to label someone a cheater for losing weight. Yeah he could have done it on a treadmill, but his performance was not enhanced by the drug itself. You may not be able to apologize for doing something noble, but you can be noble by apologizing. Dude made a mistake, we all have. And its not like his suspension is going to cost us a playoff berth. Id much rather him make a mistake and learn from it now, than when the team actually has a shot at being good.
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by averagegatsby on Nov 22, 2009 9:47 AM CST up reply actions
WHITLESS
it was written by whitless it was good enough reason for me to ignore this article… becuase i simple do not want to read some ignorant ass moron eating my time… i would read joel’s posts 2 or 3 times before even thinking of readin whitless…
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