FA Possibilities
I know I'm going to be fried by some of you for this, but I have a migraine and I can't sleep. This has kept me from going off of the deep end tonight.
FA's -
RB - Chester Taylor, LenDale White, Justin Griffith (FB)
WR - Brandon Marshall, Antonio Bryant, Chris Henry, Chris Chambers, Mark Clayton, Matt Jones, Miles Austin
TE - Alge Crumpler, Ben Watson
C - Justin Hartwig
G - Logan Mankins, Richie Incognito
NT - Vince Wilfork, Casey Hampton, Jason Ferguson, Ryan Pickett
DE - Richard Seymour
OLB - Shawne Merriman
ILB - Kirk Morrison, Larry Foote,
CB - Carlos Rogers, Dunta Robinson,
S - O.J. Atogwe, Nick Collins, Darren Sharper, Dawan Landry
OK Lets start with the O-Line.
Justin Hartwig (C) is a FA this year, 6' 5" 312 lbs. but he's 31 years old, might just be a stopgap for us. Kind of a hometown guy, he's from Iowa, played college ball at Kansas, might not be hard to pick him up if he thinks we're making strides in the right direction.
Is Colin Brown our answer at right guard? Alleman doesn't seem to be the man for the position, there seems to be some biased (by the coaching staff) against Ndukwe Playing right guard if anyone else has a pulse. But Indukwe is our starting RG against Pitt this weekend isn't he?
Logan Mankins (LG) 6' 4" 310 lbs. 27 yrs old. Logan's name has been brought up, but doing a little research he plays left guard. We have Brian Waters and we have Branden Albert to play left guard. Do we bring in Mankins and leave Albert at LT?
Richie Incognito (RG) 6' 3" 324 lbs. 26 yrs old. Another name being tossed around, this time we might have hit the nail on the head. Richie is a RG, one of our positions of need, a "dirty" player. Could be someone worth checking out.
A project LT and a starting RT can be addressed in the draft along with a starting C, I highly doubt we put this much effort into rebuilding our O-Line this year, but there's a few options.
Moving on
TE, our Holy Shit we gave away Gonzo for these guys?!?!?!?! position
Alge Crumpler (TE) Height: 6-2 Weight: 262, 32 yrs old Has Algernon Crumpler's clock been winding down? Is he done? He's a nine year vet, 32 years old. A Haley training camp might save his career. He's 3 yrs removed from the pro-bowl and was considered one of the best TE's in football when Tennessee signed him, with Jared Cook taking away playing time he might be ready to move on to a new team. This is from TitanRob of the Music City Miracles "Let’s not forget that Algae proved to be a great blocker last season and his good blocking will allow Rookie TE Jared Cook to run patterns consistently and even line up in the slot." Most of Alge's knocks come from a fumbled ball in the playoffs and coming into this season out of shape, kind of sounds like some of our guys doesn't it?
Ben Watson (TE) Height: 6-3 Weight: 255 Age: 28. An outlet tight end, a flight of stairs up from who we have and a flight of stairs down from Gonzo but he's fairly young, but what I can find on him he's not a natural blocker, but I did find this. "However, a source close to the team tells us that starting TE Ben Watson improved his blocking considerably during his injury-shortened 2007 campaign." I don't remember where I got that tidbit but I'm not going back to look it up.
Moving on
Chester Taylor (RB) Height: 5-11 Weight: 213 Age: 30, an older guy gotta give you that. I've heard reports that he's a younger Kevin Faulk. Maybe, maybe not, and is he needed with Jamaal Charles on the roster? But I've heard people calling for Faulk so I looked around and Taylor popped out at me.
LenDale White (RB) Height: 6-1 Weight: 235 Age: 25 by the time it counts Here's that bruising downhill runner some want us to have. He's seeing a diminished role in tennessee, might be ready to move on.
Justin Griffith (FB) Height: 6-0 Weight: 230 Age: 29 Has experience in a zone blocking scheme. Trying to find a decent scouting report on this guys is a pain. Seattles fans seem to like him better than Schmitt at FB, the way they talk Griffith finds the hole and makes the correct blocks, what I can find a lot of on him is a quote saying you had to block longer for Mike Vick than any other QB he'd ever played with.
Moving on
WR and I expect to get fried here
Chris Chambers.......we have the skinny on him, is he worth resigning? Will he resign with us?
Mark Clayton Height: 5-10 Weight: 190 Age: 27 A hot and cold player it seems so far in his career in the league, a yo-yo guy? Or does gameday and gameplan in Baltimore dictate the type of numbers he puts up?
Antonio Bryant Height: 6-1 Weight: 205 Age: 28 He's shown the talent to be a #1 WR, but his career seems to be a good year then a bad year, followed by a good year. This season might be due to erratic play at the QB position in Tampa.
Matt Jones Height: 6-6 Weight: 218 Age: 26 We've all heard the good and the bad and the ugly is he worth taking a chance on at the Vet minimum for a season if he can pass the drug test?
Chris Henry Height: 6-4 Weight: 200 Age: 26 This is taken from Wikipedia, I'm getting tired here, it's late. Henry has been involved in a string of legal troubles during his professional career, which include several arrests for such offenses as driving under the influence, marijuana possession, assault, and criminal damaging. He was suspended for the first four games of the 2008 season. He had trouble free 2009 season where he has been deep threat for the Bengals. He suffered broken forearm while making a 20 yards reception against Baltimore Ravens. He appears to be out for rest of the 2009 season.
Miles Austin Height: 6-3 Weight: 214 Age: 25 We've seen what he can do first hand, can he make a career out of doing that to people?
Brandon Marshall Height: 6-4 Weight: 230 Age: 25, again someone else we're familiar with, is his talent worth his off the field problems and what he'd bring to the locker room?
I don't want LJ junior or some of the other WR's mentioned due to off the field issues, I didn't even list TO, but to be fair I had to list most of the WR's that might be able to come in and contribute.
There's 15 possibilities on offense, holes that might be able to be filled in FA, some guys are role players, some guys that will want to own the organization.
Moving on to Defense
D-Line
NT -
Vince Wilfork Height: 6-2 Weight: 325 Age: 28 We are all familiar with this guy, with Ron Brace being brought in last season, is Wilfork out?
Casey Hampton Height: 6-1 Weight: 325 Age: 32, Pitts' NT we'll all get to see him in action sunday and draw our own conclusions.
Jason Ferguson Height: 6-3 Weight: 310 Age: 34 Is he any better than Ron Edwards? Just went on the IR, for a knee injury, he is getting a little long in the tooth.
Ryan Pickett Height: 6-2 Weight: 340 Age: 30 Reports are that he's holding down the NT position in GB well with a rotation of BJ Raji.
DE -
Richard Seymour Height: 6-6 Weight: 310 Age: 30 Another guy we all know the skinny on, but will he come here? Is pioli our ticket to him?
Moving on
OLB
Shawne Merriman - Height: 6-4 Weight: 265 Age: 25 Again someone we're familiar with, is he worth it?
ILB
Kirk Morrison Height: 6-2 Weight: 240 Age: 27 Will he fit into our 3-4? I know he's a raider but he puts in some solid performances year in and year out.
Larry Foote Height: 6-1 Weight: 239 Age: 29 A 2 down ILB in Pitt, who was released last year and signed and played for his hometown team this year. He stayed in on first and second down in Pitt and went out on passing downs. Is he an upgrade? Can we get him?
Moving on
CB -
Carlos Rogers Height: 6-0 Weight: 190 Age: 28 A step up over Brandon Carr, a scouting report from Football's future. Rogers is a good cover corner in the league, but not having the greatest season this year, which could cost him a little. DeAngelo Hall is arguably playing the best football in that secondary right now. Still Rogers does a nice job of contesting passes and is not one of the bigger areas of problem in Washington. He, like many other players on the team, have voiced concern with ownership and could easily be on his way out if allowed to become an unrestricted free agent...... Does he physically fit the mold of what Haley wants in his CB's though?
Dunta Robinson Height: 5-10 Weight: 184 Age: 27 A small corner, possibly undersized for what haley wants. Still I'm sure he's a step up in coverage over Carr. another scouting report from football's future. After holding out for nearly the entire offseason, Dunta Robinson has stepped in and played pretty badly this year for a lousy secondary. With an entire offseason of workouts, Robinson can return to form and be one of the better corners in the league, but it’ll be interesting to see how the situation plays out next offseason after the saga of last year. His cries for more money have disappeared in recent weeks, but he may still demand top money, which the Texans will once again be reluctant to cave in to. Hopefully he won’t miss valuable workouts and play at a high level wherever he winds up playing.
S
O.J. Atogwe Height: 5-11 Weight: 205 Age: 28 (FS) Reports are he's having a down year as far as big plays are concerned, but he's a very steady tackler, on pace to set career highs in tackles.
other possiblilities at safety
Nick Collins GB (26)
Antoine Bethea, Indianapolis Colts (25)
Darren Sharper, New Orleans Saints (33)
I know there's more but you can fill in the blanks for me, I'm getting tired.
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Richie Incognito
One more little tip, he has some exp. playing Long snapper.
by mcclanahanman on Nov 22, 2009 12:34 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
OMG
You lost me at RB
But you really lost me when I read roid rage Merriman
Wow, that’s a bunch of over the hill names. I do hope we keep Chambers though.
(Raiders game 1 should be listed here, 409 yds off, we let them off the hook)
(Cowboy's should be listed here - They are who we thought they were)
Skins
Raiders game 2
Next victim?
by cpa913 on Nov 22, 2009 12:51 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I'll admit there's a few that are over the hill
Quite a few of those guys should be at a nice spot in their careers, maybe a little ceiling space left, or on the plateau, or just starting on the way down. I tried to stay with fairly young players although half of them are right around 30.
by mcclanahanman on Nov 22, 2009 8:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the effort though!
(Raiders game 1 should be listed here, 409 yds off, we let them off the hook)
(Cowboy's should be listed here - They are who we thought they were)
Skins
Raiders game 2
Next victim?
by cpa913 on Nov 22, 2009 6:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I bet less than half of those guys even hit free agency
This space for rent.
by averagegatsby on Nov 22, 2009 1:28 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
This is an uncapped year
Unless half of those guys are slapped with the franchise tag, there’s a decent shot over half of them will be FA’s looking for a payday.
by mcclanahanman on Nov 22, 2009 8:09 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but
There are so many restrictions on players becoming FAs under the uncapped year. Nice work, though, I like this and you obviously put some work into it.
by Joel Thorman on Nov 22, 2009 8:21 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
But if its an uncapped year...
then their teams can spend more to keep them as well. Not only that
This space for rent.
by averagegatsby on Nov 22, 2009 8:43 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thx for the FA tidbits.
Wilfork was already on the radar. Chester Taylor or Kevin Faulk would bring good all-around play and boost RB depth, at the least.
It’ll be hard to make a play for Miles Austin, but I’d go after him if he finished the season strong, and in one piece. I like Henry, too. Literally tough break for him.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
by hmills110 on Nov 22, 2009 1:33 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hartwig..
signed an extension with the Steelers during the season. Karlos Dansby is the best ILB going on the market and he still qualifies for unrestricted status even if a new CBA isn’t worked out. That position doesn’t demand that much money compared to a pass rusher, corner, WR, QB or OT. We need to go after him hard. We have connections, we have the money, all we have to do is make the pitch and the offer. I only see the Cards and the Dolphins trying to outbid us. The Cards will be easy, but the Dolphins will be a challenge. Also, Vince Wilfork is another top tier free agent that has great potential to walk. Once again we got to give him the money truck or it isn’t going to happen. NE doesn’t sign a player his age (28 going on 29) long term deals and they got the 2nd best NT in the draft last year for cheap in the 2nd round. If we can land both of these guys we are moving in the right direction. Not to mention free agency is great for defenders because you don’t have to wait for them to develop like you do with rookies.
by I_Bleed_Red. on Nov 22, 2009 5:12 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Sorry man I missed that
on Hartwig, and Dansby. I was dying last night I’m surprised I got all that I did.
by mcclanahanman on Nov 22, 2009 7:56 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It was a nice nugget to find when I was looking for football talk last night. :o)
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
by hmills110 on Nov 22, 2009 4:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks man
I’m still in shock over today’s game, maybe we gave some FA’s a reason to look our way this offseason as a team heading in the right direction.
I was surprised by a lot of the run blocking by the line and by some of the pass protection.
I think Pittsburgh showed us we’re a few O-linemen and linebackers away from being something special. If we could have controlled the time of possession and came away with a few sacks instead of Rothlisberger spinning away from defenders this would have been a lopsided win.
We might have made a case today to Casey Hampton that KC isn’t a bad place to call home.
by mcclanahanman on Nov 22, 2009 5:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
With Charles in the backfield, they really had to respect the edge.
And the Chiefs could execute the screen with a LOT more sizzle, too.
Basically, we’re seeing a Chiefs team that’s been upgrading its personnel day-by-day, week-by-week. Started slow, but I think the overall plan is good, and they’re gaining momentum.
I was saying last week that the absence of Bowe from the lineup might actually put more pressure on the Steeler secondary than otherwise, and it appears there may’ve been some truth to it, although I took a lot of flak for saying so. :o)
Didn’t EXPECT the win, but I saw the potential for an improved squad, and was eager to see what might happen with more speed in the backfield AND the perimeter than the Chiefs started out with. It’s taken ‘til now for Haley’s crew to get more speed that could also play smart football (Quinten Lawrence and Ashlie Lelie were a couple others with speed that were brought in and didn’t pan out).
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
by hmills110 on Nov 22, 2009 9:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the increased number of good looks that Cassel got were off Charles threatening the edge.
The play fake REALLY had the Pittsburgh front biting.
The LB I was least impressed by was Derrick Johnson. I can forgive some mistakes or failures in execution, but his looked like lack of football IQ, which is unforgivable in a LB.
Big Ben spins away from better pass rushers than any the Chiefs have. But I think if they keep bringing in and bringing up LBs in the draft and workmanlike FAs, the team pressure concept will really start paying dividends. Today, more than any other, I saw the D-Line
- getting some good penetration and
- opening holes for blitzers.
Very encouraging. Be nicer if Edwards, for instance, could’ve finished the plays where he ALMOST got the sack, but by the end of the game, the first hit was just to throw the QB off and there was reliance on teammates to finish, which is just fine by me. Just getting his hand in the jersey of the ballcarrier/QB and slowing him down is enough, if your ‘mates have your back, and today, they had Edwards’ back. Again, nice to see.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
by hmills110 on Nov 22, 2009 9:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Rec
You do good work under pressure :)
We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them. Washington & Oakland!
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
by Steve_Chiefs on Nov 22, 2009 11:09 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Out of that whole list I think I’d go after Richie Incognito, Justin Griffith, Alge Crumpler and Ben Watson, and Mark Clayton on offense, resign Chambers.
We might have the inside track on Richard Seymour and Vince Wilfork, but I think we made a strong case for Casey Hampton Sunday, and Ryan Pickett is a mountain. I think if we could get 2 of these nose tackles and Seymour at DE, it’d be in our best interest.
Larry Foote and Carlos Dansby would be worth looking into. O.J. Atogwe is another guy to make a hard play for.
that’s 5 guys on offense and 6 on defense to go running after and one guy to re-sign. The draft would be about drafting depth and a starter at C. We’d actually be able to groom the young guys we took. If Morgan could step up sometime and take the SS position away from Mike Brown we’d be better off for it.
We could groom Colin Brown to backup O’Cal, NDukwe could play backup RG, Smith could back up the C and LG, and we could draft Black or Fox and groom him for the LT position and when Haley felt he was ready Waters could be traded.
by mcclanahanman on Nov 23, 2009 7:53 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

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